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Since it has winches, can it be considered a sportboat? HTFU and throw on some ratchet blocks!

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So the idea is this scales up 10+ times to be the fastest mono in the world? By that logic you could scale up Custard Truck and be faster...

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Yeah but CT won't scale like SD, which is really half a catamaran with an external righting arm.

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would love to see this thing in a blow.

 

looks like on its way to big-boy size SpeedDream could ruffle some feathers in the sportboat camp first... it'd be interesting to see what it can do vs the usual suspects in the powered-up schoolyard corner once it's sorted.

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Since it has winches, can it be considered a sportboat? HTFU and throw on some ratchet blocks!

I think the winches are to wind the keel up into place

Watched it again and correct myself. obviously sheeting the jib in. so how do they crank the keel over? Like a Mini?

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Fucking ugly, seems silly and can't believe Cam is now in on the action. What kind of Moose shit are they smoking up there in Maine? Dang pass that stuff around! I guess Bleeding Edge means snapping a "line"..really? Like the enthusiasm..how is it supposed to go downwind? Looks like it will be sub-surface half of the time.

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@ Mr Clean

Not sure I'd describe Custard Truck as 1/2 a cat as it is one of the quickest sportsboats of its size in NZ and a good benchmark to see if this idea of canting lead works on a boat this length.

 

Given Shaw yacht Design's experience in canters (9m, 10.6m, etc) and the decision to run a small fixed bulb with max righting moment from bodies, I am not entirely sure that the speed dream small size approach is the quickest way to make a sportsboat fast.

 

Of course...you cannot scale up the crew to each be 5000kg so perhaps speed dreams' appoach is spot on for a big keel boat though.

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interesting stepped hull and planing surfaces, hope it works well, with a swiss boat, aussie, and now russo-american teams exploring the dry bulb concept, all that is required is for someone to build Humphrey's deck level sliding ballast and we should see at least one prove out.

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Since it has winches, can it be considered a sportboat? HTFU and throw on some ratchet blocks!

 

Yeah looks very like cat sailing instaed of lifting a hull they lift a keel out of the water :P

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Great times, mono's lifting the keel out of the water to imitate cats, cats lifting the whole platform out of the water to imitate birds, and kite surfers abandoning the mast, and hulls standing on foils alone :D

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Lucky to have those daggerboards

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My snide point is that Vlad Mournikov comes up with some great high tech concepts from time to time on how to design the world's fastest mega monster monohull, it generally comes to naught because people quickly realize that a far more cost effective way build the fastest boats for RTW record breaking is build one with more than one hull. You can put all the CFD and other high tech engineering into it you want all you'll end up with is records with qualifying adjectives.

 

AFAIK the sb version is is only meant to be a proof of concept so I wouldn't expect it to be competitive on a real race course vs other boats that use more sensible approaches to generating righting moment (e.g hanging 4 fit dudes off a trapeze) and hull shapes more suitable to a boat that size.

 

I am waiting for Vlad Mx-Ray follow up with interest (I'm not saying that ironically) though as it should be interesting.

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they gotta be getting some GPS tracks. Christ, I get them even if I go for a quick windsurf session.

 

Seems draggy when the bulb is in the water.

 

 

I love seeing new concepts being tested though. Keep at it guys! The first year I had my F24, I broke something every time I went out. Not as much drama now.

 

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@ Mr Clean

Not sure I'd describe Custard Truck as 1/2 a cat as it is one of the quickest sportsboats of its size in NZ and a good benchmark to see if this idea of canting lead works on a boat this length.

 

Given Shaw yacht Design's experience in canters (9m, 10.6m, etc) and the decision to run a small fixed bulb with max righting moment from bodies, I am not entirely sure that the speed dream small size approach is the quickest way to make a sportsboat fast.

 

Of course...you cannot scale up the crew to each be 5000kg so perhaps speed dreams' appoach is spot on for a big keel boat though.

 

Um,

He was describing Speed dream. Not CT.

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regarding the post a few days ago.

 

http://sailinganarchy.com/2014/01/08/forward-thinking-2/

 

I can't help but think the first thing to happen on this overcooked slab-floored wedge is it will stick straight into the back of a roller, nosedive, stop, the weight to windward will screw the boat violently to leeward, chinese gybe and it will all finish in a floppy mess with the rig in the water and the keel returning to its natural state - pointing vertically downward, whether still attached to the hull or not.

 

Vlad needs to sail a skiff for a few years ;)

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Vlad has fitted Quant30 style DSS foil as shown on Speeddream site last Nov But has she sailed yet??? .......

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Vlad has fitted Quant30 style DSS foil as shown on Speeddream site last Nov But has she sailed yet??? .......

Really? Like there wasn't enough going on with that boat already - except for seeing the boat racing against some contemporaries to see how all the dream stacks up. I like Vlad, the crazy ruski but he sometimes gets carried away a bit.

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So did this boat ever perform? Why did they never publish relative performance data? Was it because it wasn't actually very fast?

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Saw her listed for sale last week on the fb page.

 

 

...ooh goody been waiting for this day!! :P

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Wish Vlad would line it up against a handful of known boats just to see how it stacks up - but I have a feeling that it is not so fast and it might not happen......................Come on Vlad - give us a show!

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Wish Vlad would line it up against a handful of known boats just to see how it stacks up - but I have a feeling that it is not so fast and it might not happen......................Come on Vlad - give us a show!

 

 

 

..the fact that the proto is for sale is it's own answer :mellow:

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Wish Vlad would line it up against a handful of known boats just to see how it stacks up - but I have a feeling that it is not so fast and it might not happen......................Come on Vlad - give us a show!

 

 

 

..the fact that the proto is for sale is it's own answer :mellow:

 

Probably - just wish we could get a feel for the potential of the design whether good or bad. It is always great to see some out of the box thinking even if not all of it pays off

 

Paging Vlad................

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Wish Vlad would line it up against a handful of known boats just to see how it stacks up - but I have a feeling that it is not so fast and it might not happen......................Come on Vlad - give us a show!

 

 

 

..the fact that the proto is for sale is it's own answer :mellow:

 

Probably - just wish we could get a feel for the potential of the design whether good or bad. It is always great to see some out of the box thinking even if not all of it pays off

 

Paging Vlad................

 

 

 

 

...I'd hazard a guess it's another complete Murinovski FAIL :mellow:

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...might still be paying for these after fitting wouldnt be cheap

 

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be a good donor boat for this type of foils20160402_155538_000.jpg

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cause it heels a bit

 

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...it's amazing how much turbulance that thing creates,,,

 

 

...in the name of getting the keel out of the water,,,, to. reduce. turbulance. :mellow:

 

 

 

 

 

 

...imagine that thing in waves! :blink::lol:

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