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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Tranquilo

How cute is this!

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Where do I start?

Yeah, I know, I am tossing a bomb into the mosque, but what the hell.

Slavish devotion to history creates a boat that harkens back to the days of yore, but wastes innovations in materials and ergonomics. The decks are wider than necessary so the cabin is cramped and ark, the design was originally wood so the composite construction to the same plan is a waste of the advantages of the material, the interior is cramped because the hull is constrained by the antiquated design, etc., etc.,

 

The Pardeys have gotten a lot of dreamers on the water. So has Roger Mcgregor. One is revered, one is reviled. Both have a rabid kool-aid drinking following. Are both right? Are both wrong?

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MacGregor. And yes.

 

What are you doing posting on this thread? Did you buy the damn boat or not?

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Hang on a bit, I have an auction on one of my kidneys I have to finalize.

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Where do I get some of that marine plywood that will not absorb moisture? <_<

 

And how do you get resin to soak into it?

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Hang on a bit, I have an auction on one of my kidneys I have to finalize.

 

Who's the sucker Ish?

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Would you rather be caught out in Force 8 in a Sam L Morse Cutter or a MacGregor? Not a big fan of Kool-aid...just sayin'

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Would you rather be caught out in Force 8 in a Sam L Morse Cutter or a MacGregor? Not a big fan of Kool-aid...just sayin'

 

Force 8? Where? In open water with no complicating factors, you should be fine sailing any reasonably well-fitted-out boat from a Sunfish on up. In fact, there may well be no "caught out" to it... I have completed small boat races in 35kt+ winds, had a pretty enjoyable day.

 

OTOH with a current, shoals, or other complications, it could be a real bummer in far less wind than that. If you're dumb enough, clumsy enough, or unlucky enough... or some combination of all 3.... you can drown in a puddle. This is why knowledge & skill are the major determining factors, not whether you're in a crab-crusher or a racing shell.

 

FB- Doug

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Who's the sucker Ish?

 

Negative Feedback, comin' up....

 

"Seller described kidney as 'in like-new condition'. When it arrived, it was bruised and smelled like Lysol and now I pee three times a nite. Very disappointed."

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Seller claims buyer installed upside down and voided warranty.

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Oh well, i just love this type of videos. While i spend most of my time on water racing boats that are from quite other end of the spectrum, i have a soft spot for Falmouth Cutter, BCC, Cape Georges, Vertues and the like. I do not care if they are cramped inside by modern standards, or do not take advantage of most modern materials as even just looking at them is very soothing.

 

Ok, i must admit. While the guys were gluing the plywood core into the deck using iron or lead pigs as weights, i immediately thought of vacuum bagging and using some heavy weight corecell or equivalent instead of plywood. Anyhow, i really would like to own one of these, or just have the opportunity to sail Falmouth Cutter.

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Would you rather be caught out in Force 8 in a Sam L Morse Cutter or a MacGregor? Not a big fan of Kool-aid...just sayin'

 

Force 8? Where? In open water with no complicating factors, you should be fine sailing any reasonably well-fitted-out boat from a Sunfish on up. In fact, there may well be no "caught out" to it... I have completed small boat races in 35kt+ winds, had a pretty enjoyable day.

 

OTOH with a current, shoals, or other complications, it could be a real bummer in far less wind than that. If you're dumb enough, clumsy enough, or unlucky enough... or some combination of all 3.... you can drown in a puddle. This is why knowledge & skill are the major determining factors, not whether you're in a crab-crusher or a racing shell.

 

FB- Doug

 

Force 8 Gale, fresh gale

 

62–74 km/h (17.2-20.6 m/s) 5.5–7.5 m 34–40 kn

 

Moderately high waves with breaking crests forming spindrift. Well-marked streaks of foam are blown along wind direction. Considerable airborne spray.

 

Some twigs broken from trees. Cars veer on road. Progress on foot is seriously impeded.

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...and in open ocean? Last time I saw 35-40 knots in open ocean it was pretty knarly.

 

You can have the sunfish or the Macgregor, I'll take the Falmouth midget thank you.

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Who's the sucker Ish?

 

Negative Feedback, comin' up....

 

"Seller described kidney as 'in like-new condition'. When it arrived, it was bruised and smelled like Lysol alcohol and now I pee three times a nite. Very disappointed."

 

Edited for truthiness. :P

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Force 8 Gale, fresh gale

 

62–74 km/h (17.2-20.6 m/s) 5.5–7.5 m 34–40 kn

 

Moderately high waves with breaking crests forming spindrift. Well-marked streaks of foam are blown along wind direction. Considerable airborne spray.

 

Some twigs broken from trees. Cars veer on road. Progress on foot is seriously impeded. 120px-Beaufort_scale_8.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

...and in open ocean? Last time I saw 35-40 knots in open ocean it was pretty knarly.

 

You can have the sunfish or the Macgregor, I'll take the Falmouth midget thank you.

 

Hell, in a Sunfish it's a blast... -if- you know how to sail in the first place... I've deliberately taken Sunfish out in 40+ a bunch of times... not off a lee shore, it's true, but that comes under the heading of "knowing how to sail" I would say. A MacGregor would not be my first pick under any circumstances (or even 150th) but if life put me there, I'd know how to make it work.

 

Most of the time heavy-ass underpowered boats with poor foils do rather badly in stronger winds, not better. Seakindly maybe but difficult to control and lose the ability to make ground upwind against waves & surface current. I like boats that heave-to properly but not if it's the only option you've got.

 

FB- Doug

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