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Boo-Yah

injured crew of a yacht that rolled

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Via Maritime New Zealand

 

The injured crew of a yacht that rolled in 10m seas between New Zealand and Tonga are awaiting rescue after activating their emergency beacon at around 6.30pm yesterday (7 November).

 

The Rescue Coordination Centre New Zealand (RCCNZ) is also investigating a second distress beacon from an unknown vessel activated at around 5am this morning 230km southwest of Tonga.

 

The crew of the 11.6m (38ft) Windigo – a 52-year-old British man, and a 43-year-old Auckland woman – are understood to have sustained mild to moderate head injuries after their yacht rolled. The man has also suffered a back injury. The yacht left Tonga two days ago.

 

The yacht is afloat, but disabled and taking on water about 700km southwest of Tonga and 1260km northeast of New Zealand in 40 knot (75 km/h winds).

 

A RNZAF P3-Orion from Whenuapai reached the scene at 1am today, establishing communications with the yacht and dropping a liferaft.

 

It returned to New Zealand to refuel and is now en route to investigate the second distress beacon.

 

A French navy Guardian aircraft is flying from Noumea to the Windigo’s position, and will arrive shortly before 2pm.

 

Few vessels are in the area.

 

Search and Rescue Mission Coordinator Keith Allen said another yacht, Adventure Bound, was around 70km from the Windigo’s position but capable of travelling at only 3-4km/h in the conditions.

 

The off shore patrol vessel HMNZS Otago has been requested to assist and has diverted from exercises in the Hauraki Gulf. It will take approximately 35-40 hours to reach the Windigo’s location.

 

“The two people aboard have secured themselves in the stern section of the yacht. They have a liferaft but in the conditions they are reluctant to leave the yacht until they have to,” he said. “That is the correct approach for them to take.”

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''A RNZAF P3-Orion from Whenuapai reached the scene at 1am today, establishing communications with the yacht and dropping a liferaft.''

 

.........how do they 'drop a liferaft' from a fly-by so that it's accessible to the injured crew,,,yet not cause damage?? :wacko:

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''A RNZAF P3-Orion from Whenuapai reached the scene at 1am today, establishing communications with the yacht and dropping a liferaft.''

 

.........how do they 'drop a liferaft' from a fly-by so that it's accessible to the injured crew,,,yet not cause damage?? :wacko:

It's a Royal NEW ZEALAND Air Force P3, closely followed by Her Majesty's NEW ZEALAND Ship OTAGO. We may be old fashioned but being stuck at the bottom of the South Pacific makes us really, really good at this shit. If they're still hanging on they'll get picked up.

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''A RNZAF P3-Orion from Whenuapai reached the scene at 1am today, establishing communications with the yacht and dropping a liferaft.''

 

.........how do they 'drop a liferaft' from a fly-by so that it's accessible to the injured crew,,,yet not cause damage?? :wacko:

It's a Royal NEW ZEALAND Air Force P3, closely followed by Her Majesty's NEW ZEALAND Ship OTAGO. We may be old fashioned but being stuck at the bottom of the South Pacific makes us really, really good at this shit. If they're still hanging on they'll get picked up.

 

attaboy. i like your attitude. i'll take old fashioned anyday, anytime. good luck to the boys.

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''A RNZAF P3-Orion from Whenuapai reached the scene at 1am today, establishing communications with the yacht and dropping a liferaft.''

 

.........how do they 'drop a liferaft' from a fly-by so that it's accessible to the injured crew,,,yet not cause damage?? :wacko:

It's a Royal NEW ZEALAND Air Force P3, closely followed by Her Majesty's NEW ZEALAND Ship OTAGO. We may be old fashioned but being stuck at the bottom of the South Pacific makes us really, really good at this shit. If they're still hanging on they'll get picked up.

 

attaboy. i like your attitude. i'll take old fashioned anyday, anytime. good luck to the boys.

 

Yip that the way we do it down here - well done to all involved. sad to see that the yacht sank.

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Haha.

 

You kiwis love to perpetuate the myth that you know what you're doing or are hard or are somehow better sailors.

 

Very amusing. Carry on.

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Haha.

 

You kiwis love to perpetuate the myth that you know what you're doing or are hard or are somehow better sailors.

 

Very amusing. Carry on.

 

The skipper of the sinking yacht was british, soooo. There's that.

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Haha.

 

You kiwis love to perpetuate the myth that you know what you're doing or are hard or are somehow better sailors.

 

Very amusing. Carry on.

 

The skipper of the sinking yacht was british, soooo. There's that.

 

Errr.. Ok.

 

Relevance?

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Haha.

 

You kiwis love to perpetuate the myth that you know what you're doing or are hard or are somehow better sailors.

 

Very amusing. Carry on.

 

The skipper of the sinking yacht was british, soooo. There's that.

 

Nicely played!

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Haha.

 

You kiwis love to perpetuate the myth that you know what you're doing or are hard or are somehow better sailors.

 

Very amusing. Carry on.

 

The skipper of the sinking yacht was british, soooo. There's that.

 

Nicely played!

 

But I'm not. So more like a play and a miss. But then kiwis are used to that too. :-)

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Loco

 

If you not know the line, then you do not understand the insult which your replies just reinforces.

you are like a boxer who leads with their chin.

Best to just stop and let it blow over.

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There's a more complete thread on this over on CA

 

Any idea what kind of boat, and what (if any) storm tactics they tried using?

 

2006 Beneteau 39

 

From the interviews it appears they kept trying to sail the course (which would have been taking them away from the low center), and not any particular 'storm tactics'.

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