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Tomfl

Adding Foot Holds/Steps To A Mast

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Disclaimer, I am an old fuddy duddy who has only sailed on boats with cotton sails and hemp lines.

 

I am considering buying a Seawind 1000 catamaran. One of the issues I have is raising the main sail. To attach the halyard to the main requires climbing up two steps on the mast because the batten in the main prevents anyother method of being used.

 

The current owner is probably six four and has to stand on the top step and put his leg between one of the spreader stays and the mast to be at the hieght to connect the halyard to the main. Since I am only five nine, and an old fat white guy who cant jump, I would probably have to add at least one more step.

 

How hard/expensive would this bee and are there other issues with putting holes in the mast to attach something I will be standing on.

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While with the proper prep and the right glue, you could bond a step system to the base of the mast - I think a few rivets and a couple of these http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_11151_10001_100545_-1?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=100545&cid=sc_googlepla&gclid=CIHL2s7Fv7MCFc5cMgodjw8Aqw

 

and you are in business -

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It looks like the 1000 has an alloy mast. So drill and tapping decent size bolts will hold you fine. It may also be worth while to insert helicoils to strengthen the thread. Make sure you use plenty of barrier protection of you use helicoils.

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And you need to use Monel rivets. They won't react with the aluminum, like stainless steel does.

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I dunno how much throw you have from the main halyard sleeve to the headboard on the sail but if you have any...before I started drilling holes in my spar I would play with adding a dyneema changing strop to the main sail that would hang down from the headboard so you would not have to climb so high. Dude, I am so high.

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I dunno how much throw you have from the main halyard sleeve to the headboard on the sail but if you have any...before I started drilling holes in my spar I would play with adding a dyneema changing strop to the main sail that would hang down from the headboard so you would not have to climb so high. Dude, I am so high.

 

This is brilliant. Why would one not do this?

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Because when you attempt to fully hoist your main sail, the shackle you attached to the changing strap would peg out in the turning sheave at the top of the mast and you wouldn't get a full hoist , If I'm reading this one right.

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Because when you attempt to fully hoist your main sail, the shackle you attached to the changing strap would peg out in the turning sheave at the top of the mast and you wouldn't get a full hoist , If I'm reading this one right.

 

I was assuming one had room for this but yes, if you don't have room, you could jam the halyard in the sheave.

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I'm assuming that the need for getting to the top of the stacked mainsail is to compact the stack and to get the slack halyard under control.

If there's enough extra length in the halyard, you could leave it attached to the mainsail and pull it down toward deck level by grabbing it with a boathook.

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I'd just leave the halyard attached... put a sailcover over the thing and take the slack out... sorted!

 

If you want the steps I'd glue them on. You can find all kinds of high strength stuff to bond Aluminum nowadays which is certainly better than drilling holes in your mast.

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The reason for the stepts is to attach the halyard to the sail. The square top has a batten that will not fit in the sail cover when the car is in the track. Once you push the car up into the track I can not reach high enough to get the shackle in the sail. The previous owner was probably eight inches taller than I am so he could attach the halyard to the sail.

 

I got a couple of the West stepts linked in the first comment to my OP. I would be interested in finding out more about gluing as an option. I have a rivet tool and a drill and my first thought was to drill the six holes, coat the rivets with tec-gel, put some type of rubber barrier between the step and the mast and rivet the steps in.

 

What do you guys think? Would it be worth while to try and glue the stepts in or just go simple with the rivets.

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How are the two existing steps attached? Just for continuity it might be worth doing it the same way.

 

Good point.

 

The current steps are the alloy fold out type with a few rivets. The West ones seem a lot more solid and have six rivets.

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http://www.bsi-inc.com/index.html for glue. it's generally OK to put small holes near the ends of the mast panel but the further you get from the ends the more dodgy it gets... Plus I just like glue

 

Even with the steps I'm not sure why you wouldn't leave the halyard attached...

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