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Soñadora

Cal39 Owners

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(x-post from CA)

 

Our friends at GOB (Good Old Boat, for those who are unwashed) are looking for Cal 39 owners for an upcoming article. If interested, PM me and I'll put you in touch with the guy in charge of that stuff.

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I guess I can understand why there aren't any Cal 39 Owners. The impression I'm getting is that it's the worst of both worlds: Sail and Boat.

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You were supposed to put worst Cal ever in the title to attract some replies....just saying.... :)

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You were supposed to put worst Cal ever in the title to attract some replies....just saying.... :)

 

yeah, should have started out that way.

 

Still, managed to get some PMs from it :D

 

good one slap

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Can put you in touch with an X-owner and I'm an ex BN on one

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My dad owned a 1971 version for many years. I spent a lot of miles offshore on that boat. With a flat (for the day,) bottom and a bulb keel, it was ahead of its time. By today's standards it was a heavy slug. But in the day it did okay. Surfed to 14 or 15 knots, and bulletproof. Major rounddown in the dark Pacific and the deck-stepped rig stayed put. Good times. Loved that boat.

NOT the worst ever Cal. Maybe the later ones though.

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Hmmm, I've always thought they were pretty good looking boats myself.....

 

 

 

 

1980-Cal-39-Mark-II_2313_7.jpg

 

 

1978-Cal39-DrivingToWindward.jpg

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Ricky, I know you live a raster sort of life, but this thread has vector all over it.

 

So your lack of attention span is understandable.

 

hey look! a bunny!

 

lana-knnear.jpg

 

:P

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Some guy named Perry who lurks on this forum making snarky remarks from time to time wrote a review about the Cal 39 which may be found on page 100 of volume II of Sailing Designs.

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We had a Cal 39 down here in New Orleans, a yellow hull originally named 'Top Banana'. She was purchased and the new owner put a Peterson 43 keel on her. It was way too stiff so we then blew a 1' x 2' hole in the middle and filled it with epoxy. Really made the boat go upwind.

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There were at least two and maybe 3 different versions of the Cal 39. The last was built at the O'Day factory in Fall River (1987-1989) and designed by C Raymond Hunt Associates. The former were Bill Lapworth designs and built in the Costa Mesa factory (before 1982) and later in the Tampa FL factory (1982-1985)

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The O'day version and Lapworth designs were two totally different boats. The Lapworth also came in multiple versions (SD, DD, TM, etc). I sailed on a Mk II TM (with a deeper draft) which was a very good boat. I believe the boats were a update to the Cal 40 design.

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Let me wade into this most controversial of issues with my considerable eagerness and utilize my black belt in google as well as do my community service for some of my less than good posts of the last week or so....

 

I believe...that this is the deal...

 

Cal 39 MK 1 - Lapworth - 1970-71 production may have ceased due to IOR rule and lack of orders http://sailboatdata....p?class_id=2325 might not have but only a two year run so there is a story there.

 

Cal 39 MK II - Lapworth - 1978-1982 very similar to the MK I but since the beam is different would we have new molds?http://sailboatdata....p?class_id=2323

 

Cal 39 MK III - Lapworth - 1983 - ? MK II but aft cabin and some other changes. http://sailboatdata....p?class_id=2322

 

Cal 39 MK IV - Hunt - Banger Punta goes bankrupt but produced by a different yard that bought the rights and molds from bankrupt company http://sailboatdata....p?class_id=3670

 

I also believe that a former female editor of SAIL magazine owned one and it was once robbed at anchor while owner was away. There is an article in sail from maybe 2-3 years ago about a broken rudder and sailing with a bucket astern. I believe that many were in the charter trade. Also if you compare prices the boat was one of the more expensive boats from Banger Punta.

 

The original MK 1 may have been a victim of the new IOR rule and poor marketing by Cal. Pearson had a 39 as well and that boat is clearly intended for CCA. Pearson changes the marketing overnight and their brand new rather striped down 39 goes from CCA racer kinda cruiser to the Pearson 39 cruiser. Pearson is able to sell a few boats each year.

 

This is the Pearson 39 sloop version.

 

http://sailboatdata....p?class_id=2024

 

The CCA had the centerboard, yawl rig with the center asymetrical sail. The mizzen didn't count in the CCA rating and I believe that center asymetircal sail did not either. Pearson added a lot of real wood, options and I believe tankage increased. Amazing what a little marketing will do.

 

I have been on the mark II and the Pearson Yawl 39. If you can handle the draft the MKII and MIII are some very nice boats. But if draft is an issue that Pearson definitely is a good second choice.

 

New England PHRF BASE RATINGS

CAL 39-1 114

CAL 39-1 TM 105

CAL 39-2 114

CAL 39-2 SD 123

CAL 39-2 TM 102

CAL 39-2 TM SD 114

 

CAL 39-4 WK 114

 

CAL 40 120

 

PEARSON 39 132

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