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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Egads.

 

It BETTER be fast, or they'll never hear the end of it.

 

Wonder if it was any harder to extract from the tooling.

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Round 2 of the Soto 30?

 

After hull #1 they sort of sailed off the edge of the earth...

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the new volvo ocean race hull

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C30 from Horacio Carabelli... new 30' Ocean Class in Brasil. There are 2 new boats coming out this week...

 

carabelli30d.jpg

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The new MacGregor.

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It's a Defline design , I would say it is a Heol

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with respect to the man on the right, it is in the range of 30 feet... :-)

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Cutout at chine looks like it's angled for a DSS foil.

Quest 30?

 

No, it has twin pivoting keels

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A modern 210 for the year 2013?

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Is it the new Paul Bieker designed Skiff that you can build at home?

 

- Any idiot can put this boat together!

 

or is it pictures of the Paul Bieker center hull of his trimaran from the molds that you can buy and go into the trimaran business!

 

http://www.ptwatercr...ft/Welcome.html

 

 

or am I covertly seeing if I can post advertisements and get away with it!

 

Seriously check out the skiff. If he could do the same for a 20+ foot i550 type boat I think he could sell a good number of sportboats.

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C30 from Horacio Carabelli... new 30' Ocean Class in Brasil. There are 2 new boats coming out this week...

 

carabelli30d.jpg

 

I have no idea, so I'll toss out a caption on this photo:

 

You really want the starboard jib lead adjusted right now skip??

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As said above it looks like a Heol 7.4.

 

One of those boats that looks good but massively fails to deliver!!

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As said above it looks like a Heol 7.4.

 

One of those boats that looks good but massively fails to deliver!!

I think you might be right there.....

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Its an IOM International One Meter hull, either a "chinz" or a "Lintel" or a "BritPop."

No rubber bow bumper, nor room for one.

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A Penguin on steroids.

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Quant 30 with DSS made for the Swiss Lakes

Doesnt look a Welbourn design - no stepped chine, or whatever you call it.

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It sure is the C30

 

Funny in South America the amount of new sportboats that are emerging out there.

 

Soto 30, S33, C30.

 

This C30 is looking like a blown up GP26

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Clearly the new Heol 10.8

 

Heol 7.4 lines, re-drafted by Verdier.

 

for sure it will be fast !

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Int 14

 

+1. Of course, I am insane!

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Kuka light

 

Interesting. Except that Kuka Light came out of an immaculate autoclave in six major components. Thanks for the plug though.

 

I highly doubt DSS, that looks like daggerboards to me. Heol seems about right given the long chine. Forklift tells me it is too short to be the infinity 36. It is a 8-10 meter LOA.

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I sail the Heol 7.4 bq prototype with my brother around the bay of Biscay and this looks very much like it ! But in fact I think it is a Kerkena 7.6, practically the same design, except heavier and crappier…

The Heol prototype was nicely built in infusion in Brittany and came with a carbon mast. It is a nice boat, and certified for offshore sailing, but afterwards production was moved to Eastern Europe and quality degraded. Boats' weight was not as controlled, carbon masts replaced with alu, and so on…

Pretty nice short video of the Heol proto surfing off Roscoff, Brittany :

 

Then Martin Defline sold a practically identical design to a tunisian boatyard and that was the Kerkena 7.6. Laden with a loo, cabin doors and all sorts of useless shit, it has to be terrible in light air (which is the main problem with twin keels). And many clients have had quality issues…

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