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Oscar Niemeyer DTS at 104

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We had an exchange student from Brasil living with us. Her parents came to visit and we had a party celebrating their visit. Her father and I are architects. I spoke no Portuguese, and her father no English, but after several, many, bottles of wine we brought out a roll of butcher paper to cover one of the tables, and be began to draw the city plan of Brasilia, along with several of Oscar's buildings. It was an amazing evening incorporating the red wine glass rings into our drawings.

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We had an exchange student from Brasil living with us. Her parents came to visit and we had a party celebrating their visit. Her father and I are architects. I spoke no Portuguese, and her father no English, but after several, many, bottles of wine we brought out a roll of butcher paper to cover one of the tables, and be began to draw the city plan of Brasilia, along with several of Oscar's buildings. It was an amazing evening incorporating the red wine glass rings into our drawings.

 

Thats a fun story, but as someone that takes your drawings and turns them into reality I have often wondered if the plans were conceived that way. You have now confirmed my suspicions. :P

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That's funny... I've been inspired by less.

 

Someone said that an architect should be reincarnated into their worst building. That threat never really worked for me.

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niemeyer was a great architect, no doubt.

 

no so much of a person - a bloody comunist his whole life, defended the deeds of stalin and others alike, helped the colombian farc drug guerrilla, etc.

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sorry for the poor (google) translation, but i was a bit lazy to translate it myself.

 

The humanist who loved Stalin

 

Text originally published (in portuguese) today in the brazilian newspaper O Globo by columnist Rodrigo Constantino.

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Oscar Niemeyer was almost a unanimity. The reaction to his death proves it. But is such reverence due only to his artistic qualities? Many consider that Niemeyer was a genius. I am not from the architecture field, not for me to judge. Still, I do not think that idolatry is only the fruit of his curves.

I have difficulty understanding why the expensive project responsible for the construction of Brasilia, the oasis of corrupt politicians away from the popular vote, deserves a prize rather than a punishment. Were Pharaoh's pyramids good for the people? But I digress.

Here's the question: why was Niemeyervirtually canonized? My thesis is that he represented the perfect icon of the HC&CC (Hypocrite Caviar&Champagne Communists ). In Brazil, you can be filthy rich, live in comfort in front of the sea, sucking on the teat of the government, since you adopt a socialist rhetoric.

Speaking of "social justice" while filling the pockets of public money, it deserves applause here. While the entrepreneur who defends capitalism, producing goods demanded by the people and not dependent on the government is seen as the villain. The speeches are worth more hyped than concrete actions. Image is everything!

The curves drawn by "concrete poet" (he considered money something "nasty") were expensive. Were almost always paid by our taxes. There were tens of millions of dollars from the federal government only. Very appropriate the funeral was at the Presidential Palace, the largest customer of the architect. Bidding and competition? This thing are ideas from annoying liberal.

Niemeyer became an icon against excess ratio in construction, but ended up with extreme scarcity of reason in his political views. He was always on the wrong side, powered by a pathological anti-Americanism. Defended the FARC terrorists, intruders MST (brazilian land-less movement, responsible for invading, rioting and destroying public buildings and productive farms) and execrable communist regime, even after a hundred million innocent lives sacrificed on the altar of this ideology.

He admired the murderous tyrants Fidel Castro and Stalin, and even justified the shootings perpetrated by them. By the end of his long life, he used his fame to spread this perverse utopia, poisoning the mind of youth while enjoying the capitalist comfort.

 

Roberto Campos (a brazilian liberal economist) once said: "In my dictionary, 'socialist' is the guy who boasts intentions and dispenses results, loves to be generous with other people's money, and preaches social equality, but is considered more equal than others." Bingo!

For those still not convinced that all this commotion has connection with his political preaching, I ask, would it be the same if he so passionately defended Pinochet instead of Fidel Castro? Tolerance would be the same if, instead of Stalin, Hitler was his guru?

And do not tell me that things are different! Both Stalin and Hitler were monsters in the same way that Communism and National Socialism are equally harmful. Great humanist who was this man who defended until his last breath as something so inhuman?

I understand the respect for the work of Niemeyer, although taste is subjective and something that symbiosis with the government deserves criticism. Understand the complex mutt that makes people drool with few Brazilians famous worldwide. But I find unacceptable blend things and put an icon of humanism. It makes no sense.

His brilliance as an artist does not give him a pass for the defense of atrocities. You need to know how to separate things, the artistic genius of the man and his ideas. And I'm sure that is not just his work that generates all this idolatry. Just to see the reaction when we question the person, not the architect.

His granddaughter Ana Lucia made clear the confusion: "The ideas he tried to pass of humanism, social justice, it is as important as his works. I think we have to preserve and disseminate his thought. "How so?

ItTake this opportunity to let you know that I am sensitive to the suffering of the victims of communism, but I'm immune to ideological patrol of the HC&CC. The selective class affectation "humanist" touches me not. It is comical to be labeled a radical by Stalinists.

Finally, I hope that soon Niemeyer call his comrades Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez to join him for a chat where he is, and that there is so "heavenly" as Cuba is for ordinary Cubans. Maybe it does finally change his ideology ...

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