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5 hours ago, Matagi said:

I think we need some resuscitaiton here. And I also feel some guilt, regarding my last proposal. But wait for it, there's more.

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There is something slightly off about that sheer line - it makes it look like it's down by the stern a little.

Or is it just me?

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On 1/13/2020 at 4:26 PM, Bob Perry said:

Send whoever drew that boat back to How to design a sheerline 101.

Bob, that sheer line just looks like it got end for ended to me. Same with the cove stripe.

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6 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

There is something slightly off about that sheer line - it makes it look like it's down by the stern a little.

Or is it just me?

That was my feeling also....but she has her bow slightly towards the camera, perhaps that is fooling the eye. I’d like to see a couple more photos.

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On 1/23/2020 at 8:03 PM, Priscilla said:

Tarzana \ Bjarne Aas

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I audibly exhaled when I saw that.. but as sailor, or carpenter? :)

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Considering that on a carpentry basis would make me suicidal.

I'm not worthy.

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On 1/23/2020 at 11:03 PM, Priscilla said:

 

Tarzana

Bjarne Aas

 

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Nice Aas.

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The May Queen is the oldest sail trading boat in Australia, and traded from 1867 until 1973. Unfortunately, while she still looks the part (though a little hogged), she won't ever be able to be restored to sailing condition.

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10 minutes ago, ALL@SEA said:

The May Queen is the oldest sail trading boat in Australia, and traded from 1867 until 1973. Unfortunately, while she still looks the part (though a little hogged), she won't ever be able to be restored to sailing condition.

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That photo on the right must have been a great show.

Decades ago, I sailed a schooner with topsails and a main jack-yard topsail... single spar extending from the gaff. It was a powerful reaching sail in light air but there must be trick to setting them, we knocked around like crazy with it and it was always a major PITA and touch-and-go with breaking something.

Here we see main & mizzen jack-yard topsails with an upper spar... lug? I dunno what to call it. But those sailors back then were 1- not lazy and 2- smarter than we might give them credit for

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SAIL WORLD: The Classic Yacht Association staged the annual Mahurangi Regatta on the picturesque Mahurangi Harbour, about 25nm north of Auckland.

One of the earliest settled areas of Auckland, the harbour has changed little over the last 50 years, making a perfect backdrop for the fleet. It is one of several 'gunk-holes' in the Hauraki Gulf that offer an all weather haven.

https://www.sail-world.com/news/226001/Classic-Yachts-Images-from-Mahurangi-Regatta

Pics: RG

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17 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Considering that on a carpentry basis would make me suicidal.

I'm not worthy.

Oh, I don't know.  I think I could do justice to a copy of the boom gallow.

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^Nice boat. Ripper gang plank.

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35 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

Titaina Explorer, just ancored by us.  Interesting I guess 98' x 45'

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Drawn by a designer who woke up after a really baaaaaaaddd acid trip populated by Darth Vader's storm troopers.

Or maybe that's just me. in which case...

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They got on the local VHF net asking for vet recommendations for hairless cats?  Something about Mr. Bigglesworth being sick?

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39 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

They got on the local VHF net asking for vet recommendations for hairless cats?  Something about Mr. Bigglesworth being sick?

Came the reply: so sorry, our vet only does hairy pu**ies? 

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1 hour ago, Priscilla said:

Des Townson  Pied Piper.

Iconic Kiwi right of passage yacht.

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Looks more like a Rite of Drowning yacht in the first pic. I'm warming up to it by the end. 

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Beautiful ship, Bob.  Are you able to get full headroom in the engine room?

Steve

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9 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Looks more like a Rite of Drowning yacht in the first pic. I'm warming up to it by the end. 

Yeah, it looks like 800 pounds of meat puppets might be a bit much.  Neat looking  boat.

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22 minutes ago, Panope said:

Beautiful ship, Bob.  Are you able to get full headroom in the engine room?

Steve

Can't imagine being part of a crew on something like that.  Still a little hope to get asked some day!

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Steve:

Yes, I have plenty of headroom in the engine room. I have not adjusted  the joiner sections to the new length or profile but I will still get at least 6'9" headroom in the engine room.

 

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I can't recall a near 100 footer from you Bob - is this your biggest design?

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See "Some Old Design Clippings";  a few were posted today and more will follow.

 

 

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I'm imagining that with a flush deck and a gaff topsail rig.  You could win yourself a bunch a Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Races with it!

https://gcbsr.org/

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Rather ordinary 4ksb compared to most in this thread, but I still Admire what is easily the luckiest boat on the harbor here.

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(for those who may not recognize her in the rare "mast vertical, sail covered" configuration, that's Tom Scott in Whimsy on Sunday. He was on his way home as I headed out.)

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On 2/22/2020 at 12:38 AM, Priscilla said:

Des Townson  Pied Piper.

Iconic Kiwi right of passage yacht.

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Geebus that looks more uncomfortable than a J24 if that's possible.

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2 hours ago, Bob Perry said:

Ch, ch, ch, ch changes:

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Looks like a little Bill Garden inspiration is lurking in there.

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3 hours ago, bgytr said:

Geebus that looks more uncomfortable than a J24 if that's possible.

The keel game is strong in this one...

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Mr Perry (or, if I may, Bob), 

Can I ask about the design brief for that fine looking yacht above?  It certainly looks like it could be a world-cruising boat for a large family, maybe heading towards the higher latitudes. 

Some idea of the impetus for this particular design would be welcome. 

 

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On 2/26/2020 at 4:00 AM, Bob Perry said:

Ch, ch, ch, ch changes:

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Cracker looking yacht Bob.

A real yacht looking like a real yacht that would do real yacht stuff with a friendly ketch rig and somewhere to hunker out of the weather.

Walk out to the end of that bowsprit whilst on a beam reach and you are in heaven.

Always wanted one of your CT 56’s and as most artists do their best work before some of the best became toast at 27 at 28 you punched out a pearler and walked on down the hall...

Compared to this similar sized Briand “Egoist” you have nailed it in my book.

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Everybody knows the red boat is a BB. Crowninsheild Knockabout designed in 1908, but does anyone know what DRAGON RUN is? (I don't and looking to find out) 

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49 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

Everybody knows the red boat is a BB. Crowninsheild Knockabout designed in 1908, but does anyone know what DRAGON RUN is? (I don't and looking to find out) 

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Found more pix, and the MMSI, 338120407, but that's it.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/cs/photos/of/ships/shipid:396234/#forward

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8 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Cracker looking yacht Bob.

A real yacht looking like a real yacht that would do real yacht stuff with a friendly ketch rig and somewhere to hunker out of the weather.

 

 

 

 

Out of the weather for sure but I don't think one will be "hunkering" in this boat!

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On 2/25/2020 at 7:00 AM, Bob Perry said:

Ch, ch, ch, ch changes:

 

All I can find is the change to 3 (swept) spreaders on the main mast and the elimination of the running back stays. 

Simplified running rigging is good.  Any other benefits?

Steve

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On 2/25/2020 at 7:00 AM, Bob Perry said:

Ch, ch, ch, ch changes:

Bowie reference? Hope so!

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My old Schooner "Europe". The first yacht registered under the brand new European Union flag. Baptised  by Princess Grace Kelly of Monaco. We acquired the boat after she went around the world. Thank you to Pierre Brouillet for the photo. I have so few of them.

 

 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Tanton Y_M said:

 

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Sweet!  Any more info?

Are they dropping or hoisting the fisherman in the pic?  Looks like a odd shape unless it's just not all the way up.

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Hello.

Yes, the fisherman sail might not be all the way up. Or, myself at the wheel got to close to the wind at that moment.

So many stories about the boat. Definitely a young Chapter in my live.

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Who was the designer?  The hull shape is very similar to ours, we have never been able to track down who drew our boat. The closest we got was the lines were loosely taken off of something else. It's a late 50's early 60' build.

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1 hour ago, SASSAFRASS said:

The closest we got was the lines were loosely taken off of something else.

Like most yachts.

Looking at that tight arse it reminds me of Illingworth / Primrose Gypsy Moth 1V.

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Soooo nice!  It's pretty amazing the state of the Alden schooners out there.  For the most part all still out on the water with some having gone through complete refit rebuilds, still winning races at almost a century old.  The retired shipright we met in La Cruz MX who set us up with local wood for resplining our hull was involved in a bunch of work on Curlew, had some cools pics and prints in his shop.

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The specs on that construction are eye popping - the deck beams are the size of timbers I've used for retaining walls FFS. :blink:

A 40' or so version would certainly be my dream boat.

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17 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

 

A 40' or so version would certainly be my dream boat.

Keep a eye out for Fame, it's in B-ham now.  Or if Craig ever looses his mind and sells Lucky Star.  Not Aldens but some of the nicest small schooners out there. 

 

Dauntless is down to 2 something, rewind 15 years of our refit and I would have been dumb enough to buy it.

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If I brought home a 40' schooner my wife of 40 years would divorce me.

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Like these?

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2 hours ago, Bull City said:

Like these?

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I can hear the vacuum on my wallet just looking at those.

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4 hours ago, Bull City said:

Like these?

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Perfection would be one of those but Nightrunner style - epoxy laminated, fin keel etc.

Modern where it counts and old where it counts.

I could probably learn to live with a schooner rigged Cherubini 47.

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8 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Quite remarkable they both are still afloat.

Amen to that!

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FAME, a Crowninshield schooner off Marblehead. I think Dennis Conner owns her now. Some good wardrobe ideas here.

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6 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

Schooner splinter

Can you tell us more about her?

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I like the schooner splinter. The big Alden is grand but I still think the amount that a boat gets used and enjoyed tends to vary inversely with length.

Spotted at the boat ramp yesterday. Not sure what it is but I think it's cool. It's not from around here and hasn't been here long. Painted steel trailers have a lifespan measured in weeks here.

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22 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Quite remarkable they both are still afloat.

Talking of schooners Howard Chapelle.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-2538198130.htm?rsqid=6764728936914cf88365b2896e4d92cb-0011270680631.thumb.jpg.62dcf0e50761d986d9c7076f6327547f.jpg

If I brought her home, the her of the house would probably love me to death, after she finished killing me for spending that much. Wonder if I would survive?

I’m fickle for sure, but she is lovely

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18 hours ago, Bull City said:

Can you tell us more about her?

I cannot, sorry. It was moored in our harbor some years ago and I've not seen it since. As you know, there are more schooners around here than you can shake a stick at. 

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21 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

As you know, there are more schooners around here than you can shake a stick at. 

Also true of Lunenburg, N.S.

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1 hour ago, Kris Cringle said:

I cannot, sorry. It was moored in our harbor some years ago and I've not seen it since. As you know, there are more schooners lobster pots around here than you can shake a stick at. 

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FIFY

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Sunset in Lunenburg, September 2014:

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I think the captains and crews escape the drudgery of 6 days, 24/7 waiting on charterers, by sailing these old lumbering, near barges. It's a real challenge and also a competition between the boats. You hear them on the VHF talking wind strength and direction between the boats. The days often end with a dramatic anchoring under sail, no small feat by any sailor but especially challenging with these cargo schooners, most of which are engineless(yawl boat assisted isn't too handy in close quarters). 

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This also results in some bravado out there as some captains try to outdo each other. Still, it adds to the ongoing spectacle along our coast. Just stay out of their way and enjoy the show. 

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2 hours ago, Panoramix said:

Thanks for this, this is a really cool boat.

Any guesses how the sail is attached to the mast? I am assuming that the masts are fixed in place and each sail hoisted on a halyard - what means is used to accomplish the 'wrap' around the mast? I am facing a similar problem

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I got yer small schooner for you. 

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I think so. I didn't talk to them, they were anchored in Pretty Marsh near us in 2007, a girl and her dog. Looks like there's just enough down below for the 2 of them. 

 

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1 hour ago, luminary said:

Any guesses how the sail is attached to the mast? I am assuming that the masts are fixed in place and each sail hoisted on a halyard - what means is used to accomplish the 'wrap' around the mast? I am facing a similar problem

Those look like sleeves, not wraps

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1 hour ago, luminary said:

Any guesses how the sail is attached to the mast? I am assuming that the masts are fixed in place and each sail hoisted on a halyard - what means is used to accomplish the 'wrap' around the mast? I am facing a similar problem

My guess would be a heavy duty zipper like those you find on sail covers.

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1 hour ago, Panoramix said:

My guess would be a heavy duty zipper like those you find on sail covers.

to me it looks like the 'sleeve' is decorative rather than structural. I'm guessing that there is a boltrope/track involved and there is a flap wrapping the mast and velcro-ed down the length. Why though?

Parts of the luff look really squishy

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On 3/4/2020 at 6:33 AM, Kris Cringle said:

 As you know, there are more schooners around here than you can shake a stick at

We got some too.

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6 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

I think the captains and crews escape the drudgery of 6 days, 24/7 waiting on charterers, by sailing these old lumbering, near barges. It's a real challenge and also a competition between the boats. You hear them on the VHF talking wind strength and direction between the boats. The days often end with a dramatic anchoring under sail, no small feat by any sailor but especially challenging with these cargo schooners, most of which are engineless(yawl boat assisted isn't too handy in close quarters). 

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This also results in some bravado out there as some captains try to outdo each other. Still, it adds to the ongoing spectacle along our coast. Just stay out of their way and enjoy the show. 

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That's Victory Chimes in the first photo. She's become such a fixture of sailing downeast that she''s the schooner on the Maine state quarter.  She was built for the Chesapeake and has a centerboard which extends her draft from something like 7 ft. to 18 ft.  No engine onboard except for a 1904 one cylinder 6hp Seeger which runs her capstan.

Kris, is that Heritage in the second photo?

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