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Rockport isn’t too crowded really.   Marblehead... that’s a crowded harbor. 

1 hour ago, Ishmael said:

It looks very crowded. Some of it is telephoto effect, but there are still a lot of boats.

 

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We're about 75% full of moored boats that can safely be tackled, with ample swinging room,  in an average of 30' of water leaving a 2 way channel through the middle,...I'd guess.

There is enough room to sail through the harbor, if you're a good sailor. Come to think of it, we have no restrictions on sailing in the harbor as some places do. You can also plant a lobster trap under my counter. 

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Of all the cool boats in New England, the coolest may be the H 12 1/2. Herreshoff drew the plans in 1914 for a 'boys first boat' (girls didn't count then and weren't allowed to vote either). Not a particularly expensive boat (relative to boats in general) or hard to build. 

Today, over a 100 years later, H 12 1/2's, in various builds of both glass, cold moulded and plank on frame, are like family jewels. 

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And the H 12 1/2 is surely NOT the boys first boat anymore.

Most people I see sailing H 12 1/2's are experienced sailors that appreciate these boats. 

The fog rolled in right behind SKY BIRD as she docked up and was tended to. That's what fog does, nothing new. 

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Check out this centre cockpit, kauri composite 52' Ketch, designed by Laurie Davidson. This boat could have very long legs.

For sale in Brisbane, QLD, Australia: https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/davidson-52-ketch/244490

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Ad says it's western red cedar construction...a beautiful boat for sure.

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Reminds me somewhat of a Peterson 44

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Looks a bit like an Amel, though knowing Mr Davidson's design skills, I bet she's a darn sight quicker.

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On 6/27/2020 at 8:24 PM, Sailbydate said:

Check out this centre cockpit, kauri composite 52' Ketch, designed by Laurie Davidson. This boat could have very long legs.

For sale in Brisbane, QLD, Australia: https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/davidson-52-ketch/244490

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I am not a big fan of the deck layout but my personal preferences be damned.  She is a beaut.  I think I could live with her.  

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On 6/27/2020 at 9:24 PM, Sailbydate said:

Check out this centre cockpit, kauri composite 52' Ketch, designed by Laurie Davidson. This boat could have very long legs.

For sale in Brisbane, QLD, Australia: https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/davidson-52-ketch/244490

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This is probably the first photo of a bunk with bedding that actually looks clean and inviting - maybe I've seen too many of the very opposite on "Mocking Ads on CraigsList."

Lovely boat, even though it is a death trap.

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3 hours ago, Bull City said:

This is probably the first photo of a bunk with bedding that actually looks clean and inviting - maybe I've seen too many of the very opposite on "Mocking Ads on CraigsList."

Lovely boat, even though it is a death trap.

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That Vee berth doesn't have a filler piece, making slipping across for a snuggle nearly as dangerous as the companionway. 

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On 6/27/2020 at 6:24 PM, Sailbydate said:

Check out this centre cockpit, kauri composite 52' Ketch, designed by Laurie Davidson. This boat could have very long legs.

For sale in Brisbane, QLD, Australia: https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/davidson-52-ketch/244490

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Wow I really like that boat! Talk about get in and go.

Is Kauri also called Western red ceder down there?

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23 hours ago, Whinging Pom said:

Looks a bit like an Amel, though knowing Mr Davidson's design skills, I bet she's a darn sight quicker.

There are a ton of the Amels in Panama by us, I can't get away from the Tupperware thing they have going on.  There was a new 60 something next to us in Gulfito the lines seemed better.  This looks more like getting the Amel right by my super prejudice eye.

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50 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

Wow I really like that boat! Talk about get in and go.

Is Kauri also called Western red ceder down there?

Nah, Sassa. My bad. I got the construction of the two Davidson designs confused. It was the 46'er Samasan, which was built in kauri, not Tauranga. Hard to find the perfect boat, eh? ;-)

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the davidson boat is a candidate for the best looking centre cockpit boat ever

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On 6/29/2020 at 10:48 PM, Priscilla said:

Another cracker Davidson.

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Cool boat.

Is the rudder hung off the transom ?

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On 6/28/2020 at 3:24 AM, Sailbydate said:

Check out this centre cockpit, kauri composite 52' Ketch, designed by Laurie Davidson. This boat could have very long legs.

For sale in Brisbane, QLD, Australia: https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/davidson-52-ketch/244490

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Really big boat with lot of systems but she looks great!

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6 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

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Thanks, so my eyes weren't deceiving me! Nice boat.

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On 6/29/2020 at 1:03 PM, chester said:

the davidson boat is a candidate for the best only good looking centre cockpit boat ever

 

FIFY

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5 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

A big Cat boat, 

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A Bridges Point 24 (I think),

"What's this thing called weather helm?"

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Well... there I was in Italia, last week... jet travel... amazing... almost a novelty now we're collectively cursed with the covidicals... and while baking in the 28c Salerno sunshine... lurking next to the 220tn mega lift was no other than  A S T R A

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A 1929 C&N masterpiece... yes I had to go and touch her.... what a shape!

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Now that is a minimalist cockpit. Nothing to do but steer and bark the occasional order.

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47 minutes ago, Bull City said:

Now that is a minimalist cockpit. Nothing to do but steer and bark the occasional order.

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And call the steward for another drink, and maybe some of those little sandwiches with the crust cut off...

Actually, that's not fair. The NY40s were hard-core racing machines of their day. They don't point like a modern racer but they are muscle-bound brutes to sail and rather short on yacht-y comforts.

FB- Doug

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13 hours ago, Priscilla said:

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Eat your heart out, Wally Yachts.

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6 minutes ago, Misbehavin' said:

Eat your heart out, Wally Yachts.

Wally yachts has sure cornered the market for rather large singlehanders.

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^^ Like the post - the Wallys, not so much.

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4 minutes ago, Bull City said:

^^ Like the post - the Wallys, not so much.

True large day sailers with no weather cover no wonder the never attract a crew.

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5 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

True large day sailers with no weather cover no wonder the never attract a crew.

The crew is kept in a small cage belowdecks. They are brought on deck only to set and strike sails. A pIr of comely young women are also kept below to serve fine wine and gourmet nibbles. When the owner departs for the day, the crew is set free by remote control to moor the boat and clean up all of the crumbs and wash away spilled wine. 

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Really, this is so unappealing. How many times could you do that?

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33 minutes ago, Bull City said:

Really, this is so unappealing. How many times could you do that?

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Forever!

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Yea, I would be quite happy with that boat.

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1 hour ago, MauiPunter said:

Yea, I would be quite happy with that boat.

Long walk to get a cup of tea.

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8 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

Long walk to get a cup of tea.

Yeah, but you wouldn’t have to do the walking...

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Probably fun until something goes wrong - like a furling breakdown in a rising wind.

What would you do?

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12 hours ago, Bull City said:

Really, this is so unappealing. How many times could you do that?

Single-handing a boat like that is obviously not practical. Yet the photo (I assume from an advertisement) is trying to make some appeal. What is the appeal?

What would Edward Hopper thinK?

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8 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Probably fun until something goes wrong - like a furling breakdown in a rising wind.

What would you do?

Oh, basically my SOP in those cases: sink it, get rescued, claim insurance, sue the yard, get a discount for the new one. 

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12 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Probably fun until something goes wrong - like a furling breakdown in a rising wind.

What would you do?

You go to manual overdrive...

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14 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Probably fun until something goes wrong - like a furling breakdown in a rising wind.

What would you do?

That's what the servants are for.

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6 hours ago, Bull City said:

Single-handing a boat like that is obviously not practical. Yet the photo (I assume from an advertisement) is trying to make some appeal. What is the appeal?

What would Edward Hopper thinK?

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The man in the concrete wall thinking that he may jack it in for the day and take his Wally 110 for a fang by himself of course.

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3 hours ago, Liquid said:

You go to manual overdrive...

Yeah - that'll do it.

A week ago I had to furl a Hunter 38 in just under 30 knots.

It was a lot of work for two of us.

I question if even a big coffee grinder would be powerful enough to furl that sort of acreage in a strong wind.

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No super rich, super powerful person is going to risk soloing his 100er - if they know any better - much less throw their own lines to dock out and then in again...

Owner: "Honey, I'm headed to the club to day sail my 100er, alone.... "

Partner: "Be back in time for dinner"

Happens - never!

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54 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Yeah - that'll do it.

A week ago I had to furl a Hunter 38 in just under 30 knots.

It was a lot of work for two of us.

I question if even a big coffee grinder would be powerful enough to furl that sort of acreage in a strong wind.

Drum winches are pretty much history....

Just add another power pack as back up.

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Lots of ram and valve porn.

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On 7/10/2020 at 11:52 AM, Steam Flyer said:

And call the steward for another drink, and maybe some of those little sandwiches with the crust cut off...

Actually, that's not fair. The NY40s were hard-core racing machines of their day. They don't point like a modern racer but they are muscle-bound brutes to sail and rather short on yacht-y comforts.

FB- Doug

You’d be surprised.  Marilee points pretty damn well actually 

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1 hour ago, Liquid said:

How do those help spin a broken, super yacht, furling drum?

What, they don't use hanks?

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2 minutes ago, bridhb said:

What, they don't use hanks?

 

Right?

 

They used to!

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2 hours ago, eliboat said:
On 7/10/2020 at 11:52 AM, Steam Flyer said:

And call the steward for another drink, and maybe some of those little sandwiches with the crust cut off...

Actually, that's not fair. The NY40s were hard-core racing machines of their day. They don't point like a modern racer but they are muscle-bound brutes to sail and rather short on yacht-y comforts.

 

You’d be surprised.  Marilee points pretty damn well actually 

I've sailed on a 40, but it was not as beautifully or authentically restored. I was not trusted to drive, anyway. but it seemed like the modern sloops could go higher and they could darn sure tack faster. We roared past them on the reach though, it was impressive. It was also a spaghetti factory in a way that I've never seen on a modern boat. There were friggin' MILES of rope just in the sheets! One of my jobs was to keep the mainsheet from tangling with the backstay tails. And not fall off!

If I had a huge amount of money, I'd campaign a NY 40. If I got offered an invite to sail MARILEE, I'd jump on it!

FB- Doug

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2 hours ago, eliboat said:

You’d be surprised.  Marilee points pretty damn well actually 

Even pointed well with the new gaff rig back 20 year ago.

I was invited and jumped right aboard!

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3 hours ago, Liquid said:

 

No super rich, super powerful person is going to risk soloing his 100er - if they know any better - much less throw their own lines to dock out and then in again...

Owner: "Honey, I'm taking the helo to the club to day sail my 100er, alone.... "

Partner: "Be back in time for dinner"

Happens - never!

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On 7/11/2020 at 11:42 AM, Bull City said:

Really, this is so unappealing. How many times could you do that?

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After a completely fucked-up single handed docking, not many.

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13 hours ago, Liquid said:

 

No super rich, super powerful person is going to risk soloing his 100er - if they know any better - much less throw their own lines to dock out and then in again...

Owner: "Honey, I'm headed to the club to day sail my 100er, alone.... "

Partner: "Be back in time for dinner"

Happens - never!

Sailing to a schedule no matter what size the boat, is inviting disaster.

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On 7/10/2020 at 6:41 AM, Kris Cringle said:

Did you bid in the no reserve auction? 

I've read that the winners of the auction of MARILEE, bid $420K. 

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On 7/10/2020 at 10:58 AM, Bull City said:

Now that is a minimalist cockpit. Nothing to do but steer and bark the occasional order.

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Looks a lot like my first boat:

Sunfish, 1968, Huntington, New York, sailboat for sale ...

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Here's a great 13 minute video of ALERA, a NY30, but you get the idea.

 

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6 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

Sailing to a schedule no matter what size the boat, is inviting disaster.

Old saying; The most dangerous thing aboard a boat is a calendar.

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Dang!  Kinda weird to see the Camden schooner fleet still under their winter wrap in July....

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Think so...worth the time to admire.

This is how dock lines Are laid out at Front Street. Tabasco has black lines Laid the same way. 
 

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19 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Think so...worth the time to admire.

This is how dock lines Are laid out at Front Street. Tabasco has black lines Laid the same way. 

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Very nice. Must have taken hours. Too bad they haven't moved up to bull rails.

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I did a repair job on an Ensign last week that was tied up along side a floating concrete dock with bull rails and cleats. The only dock like it anywhere local in NJ. Of course the guy has the boat tied up to the splintery bull rail while the oversized Herreshoff cleats are there for decoration.

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On 7/10/2020 at 9:39 PM, SloopJonB said:

Probably fun until something goes wrong - like a furling breakdown in a rising wind.

What would you do?

Call for my helicopter to bring in the lackeys and pick me up.  No problem!

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22 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Think so...worth the time to admire.

This is how dock lines Are laid out at Front Street. Tabasco has black lines Laid the same way. 
 

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where is the bull rail?  not proper.

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