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1 hour ago, Rasputin22 said:

 

Not sure that is beautiful or if that is even Washington NC but I'll find out.

That is Washington, NC. Havens Wharf Marina, specifically.

To me it's definitely a coolboat, in terms of being a boat designed and built to do exactly what the owner wants to do with it. 

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Yeah, I finally recognized the bridge and the brick buildings. So it seems like the boat was not fully finished and fitted out and they took it to West Palm for interior work?

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1 hour ago, Rasputin22 said:

Yeah, I finally recognized the bridge and the brick buildings. So it seems like the boat was not fully finished and fitted out and they took it to West Palm for interior work?

I believe she was mostly finished inside and out at PSC except for the rig. She was launched in Washington for tests/checks and motored to Oriental, where she was pulled out and hauled to Florida to get her stick.

This set of pictures was taken in Washington and shows the level of completion at that point.

https://www.facebook.com/FriendshipYachtCompany/posts/1774572199221572

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If it's the boat he wants, good for him. It's his wallet. I still think it's a bit ugly in my tastes, though I agree it's not as bad IRL as the drawings.

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1 minute ago, RKoch said:

If it's the boat he wants, good for him. It's his wallet. I still think it's a bit ugly in my tastes, though I agree it's not as bad IRL as the drawings.

Looks like a catamaran stuck on top of a mono.  

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9 minutes ago, southerncross said:

Looks like a catamaran stuck on top of a mono.  

My thought exactly. With a sport fisherman cockpit. I wonder if it also has underwater mood lighting? 

My thoughts.....you own a sailboat for the pleasure of sailing. If the boat's planned use is a condomaran party barge or fishing boat, then why bother with rig and keel? I have a hunch the boat is trying to fill too many roles, and thus will do none of them well. Maybe he just looking for oohs and ahhhs from the docksiders.  But, it's his money.

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45 minutes ago, RKoch said:

If it's the boat he wants, good for him. It's his wallet. I still think it's a bit ugly in my tastes, though I agree it's not as bad IRL as the drawings.

I was going to say it should be considered by the Society.

I really Admire those windows, which look godawful from the outside. I bet they're great from the inside. If people don't like the appearance of my boats, they should look in a different direction, so it works for me.

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2 hours ago, southerncross said:

Looks like a catamaran stuck on top of a mono.  

Its a Monomaran, for easy dockage.

- Stumbling

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I wonder if Mr. Buffet's boat cost more than $2 million.  Think what else he might have bought.


"This beautiful three masted topsail schooner was built in 1942 at the renowned J. Ring Andersen’s Shipyard in Svendborg, Denmark. She was built as a cargo ship from a design based on drawings from the end of the 19th century. In 1974 she was bought by a privately owned shipping company in Denmark, whom changed the cargo ship into a pleasure craft. In1996 she was acquired by Carlsberg A/S, the very company she had transported most of their beerpackaging for back in the days as a cargo ship. She was refurbished and new main engine was installed. In their ownership from 1996 to 2010 she was used for representation, teambuilding and meetings as well as attending Tallship races.

"From 2010 until today she has been in the hands of the widow from the shipping company owner and subsequently fully refurbished incl. engine overhaul and new masts. (Under Tall-Ship expert supervision)

"All restoration and yearly service has been carried out by the building shipyard J. Ring Andersen.

"Today ZAR stands out as one of the finest classic schooners available in Northern Europe and the only one certified by Det Norske Veritas (today DNV GL A/S).

"All service and maintenance has been done according to Traditional Tallship tradition."

 

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/72030

 

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28 minutes ago, captain_crunch said:

I wonder if Mr. Buffet's boat cost more than $2 million.  Think what else he might have bought.


"This beautiful three masted topsail schooner was built in 1942 at the renowned J. Ring Andersen’s Shipyard in Svendborg, Denmark. She was built as a cargo ship from a design based on drawings from the end of the 19th century. In 1974 she was bought by a privately owned shipping company in Denmark, whom changed the cargo ship into a pleasure craft. In1996 she was acquired by Carlsberg A/S, the very company she had transported most of their beerpackaging for back in the days as a cargo ship. She was refurbished and new main engine was installed. In their ownership from 1996 to 2010 she was used for representation, teambuilding and meetings as well as attending Tallship races.

"From 2010 until today she has been in the hands of the widow from the shipping company owner and subsequently fully refurbished incl. engine overhaul and new masts. (Under Tall-Ship expert supervision)

"All restoration and yearly service has been carried out by the building shipyard J. Ring Andersen.

"Today ZAR stands out as one of the finest classic schooners available in Northern Europe and the only one certified by Det Norske Veritas (today DNV GL A/S).

"All service and maintenance has been done according to Traditional Tallship tradition."

 

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/72030

 

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The purchase price is nothing compared to the upkeep & crew costs.

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28 minutes ago, slap said:

The purchase price is nothing compared to the upkeep & crew costs.

Agreed!

 

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9 hours ago, Rasputin22 said:

What is with those decks?

You mean the ones wet with the morning dew, much like the windows?

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17 hours ago, Zonker said:

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That my friends is a TROLLER. They troll for salmon with about 8 lines, though this one looks like her fishing days are long past. I wouldn't mind one for my retirement when I'm 80 or so.

A TRAWLER drags a big net through the water. Or in the case of a Grand Banks faux trawler, pushes a big wall of water whenever it goes at speed  all.

FIFY

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On 5/1/2018 at 7:21 PM, RKoch said:

Regarding hull speed...

IMO the 1.34 times sqrt  (WL) is just an approximation. Narrow boats can easily exceed that, and beamy tubs can't get there. Displacement is a big factor too. I think FRANKIE would easily hit 20kn with a big kite up in a bit of breeze. 

That's just a physical relation between crest to crest distance and the wave speed so not an approximation but some boats are better than others at going pas the speed where the crest to crest length of their bow wave is longer than their waterline length (typically planing boats and narrow boats).

That's my understanding maybe @Zonker can confirm or correct me....

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17 hours ago, captain_crunch said:

I wonder if Mr. Buffet's boat cost more than $2 million.  Think what else he might have bought.


"This beautiful three masted topsail schooner was built in 1942 at the renowned J. Ring Andersen’s Shipyard in Svendborg, Denmark. She was built as a cargo ship from a design based on drawings from the end of the 19th century. In 1974 she was bought by a privately owned shipping company in Denmark, whom changed the cargo ship into a pleasure craft. In1996 she was acquired by Carlsberg A/S, the very company she had transported most of their beerpackaging for back in the days as a cargo ship. She was refurbished and new main engine was installed. In their ownership from 1996 to 2010 she was used for representation, teambuilding and meetings as well as attending Tallship races.

"From 2010 until today she has been in the hands of the widow from the shipping company owner and subsequently fully refurbished incl. engine overhaul and new masts. (Under Tall-Ship expert supervision)

"All restoration and yearly service has been carried out by the building shipyard J. Ring Andersen.

"Today ZAR stands out as one of the finest classic schooners available in Northern Europe and the only one certified by Det Norske Veritas (today DNV GL A/S).

"All service and maintenance has been done according to Traditional Tallship tradition."

 

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/72030

 

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No fighting chairs.

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3 hours ago, SecondWindNC said:
20 hours ago, captain_crunch said:

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No fighting chairs.

 

Yabbut it's one hell of a set of outriggers!

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I wonder how much professional crew a ship like that would need.

I would guess at least 5 or 6.

And where do you find a crew for a square rigger?

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4 hours ago, SecondWindNC said:

No fighting chairs.

Besides that, it's darn near impossible to back down quickly enough and the rail is too high to get the gaff and/or net into 'em....

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48 minutes ago, Veeger said:

Besides that, it's darn near impossible to back down quickly enough and the rail is too high to get the gaff and/or net into 'em....

Who needs fighting chairs when you can just sit on the end of the bow sprit and throw a harpoon!

- Stumbling

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I think its pretty cool. Its special. He is obviously very happy with it.

I think it will sail quite well, especially once sheets are eased slightly. Long upwind slog? No, turn on the engine. But I am sure it will exceed the performance of every charter cat in every direction in all wind and sea states. 

Being able to see out while underway is underrated, and this boat combines the visibility with ventilation, which is far too often missed. Easy movement between the cockpit and pilot house, like on many modern charter cats, looks great and is very popular with the people spending time on such boats.

The cockpit is just cool: it actually will be useful for all the stuff people do on boats, underway, at anchor, in the marina.

I love the galleys. Sure, having two galleys (or two heads) on a boat is a waste of space. But at least it does NOT have a gambled stove. Why pretend someone is going to cook underway? This is not an ocean racer for overnight racing. Fun, and cooking while heeling a lot on rough conditions, are not related.

In summary, it seems an outstanding solution to a set of real, important, goals of the owner.

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4 minutes ago, carcrash said:

I think its pretty cool. Its special. He is obviously very happy with it.

I think it will sail quite well, especially once sheets are eased slightly. Long upwind slog? No, turn on the engine. But I am sure it will exceed the performance of every charter cat in every direction in all wind and sea states. 

Being able to see out while underway is underrated, and this boat combines the visibility with ventilation, which is far too often missed. Easy movement between the cockpit and pilot house, like on many modern charter cats, looks great and is very popular with the people spending time on such boats.

The cockpit is just cool: it actually will be useful for all the stuff people do on boats, underway, at anchor, in the marina.

I love the galleys. Sure, having two galleys (or two heads) on a boat is a waste of space. But at least it does NOT have a gambled stove. Why pretend someone is going to cook underway? This is not an ocean racer for overnight racing. Fun, and cooking while heeling a lot on rough conditions, are not related.

In summary, it seems an outstanding solution to a set of real, important, goals of the owner.

The entire layout of cabin and cockpit is markedly unsuitable for offshore sailing, racing or cruising. Quite obvious the boat is intended for short day-trips on the water and dockside entertaining. Which is fine, presuming that's what he wanted. It's a monohull condomaran, let's not pretend otherwise. 

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    An old friend of mine has a composites fab shop a couple of blocks down the street from the Geographically Challenged Pacific Seacraft which is now in Washington NC. He is an infusion specialist an did the bulkheads and carbon rudder for the Bob Perry South Seas 62 (CATARI) and the hull and bulkheads for the Buffet Boat. He said that he sat in on some of the design pow-wow's at PSC held on the cockpit full scale mockup and there was a real mashup over some huge SS BBQ pit that the interior designer had come up with. Now they take their BBQ in NC pretty seriously but the pillow fluffer had insisted on a huge gleaming unit that you would expect down at the VFW on Sunday afternoon. Ted was there as was Jimmy and the gist of the argument was how long it would take to let cool and clean up and store and get underway if Jimmy got a sudden call about a big happening back in St Barts for which he needed to be present. As it went round and round about how Jimmy would react to that sort of situation, Jimmy finally spoke up and said, "Here is Jimmy would do..." and reached in a cooler and pulled out a cold beer and opened it an then completed his statement with "Jimmy would kick back and drink another cold beer while the grill cools down..." 

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3 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I wonder how much professional crew a ship like that would need.

I would guess at least 5 or 6.

And where do you find a crew for a square rigger?

The crew needed thread right here at SA of course! Lots of available mateys!!

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12 hours ago, Panoramix said:
On 5/1/2018 at 10:21 AM, RKoch said:

Regarding hull speed...

IMO the 1.34 times sqrt  (WL) is just an approximation. Narrow boats can easily exceed that, and beamy tubs can't get there. Displacement is a big factor too. I think FRANKIE would easily hit 20kn with a big kite up in a bit of breeze. 

That's just a physical relation between crest to crest distance and the wave speed so not an approximation but some boats are better than others at going pas the speed where the crest to crest length of their bow wave is longer than their waterline length (typically planing boats and narrow boats).

That's my understanding maybe @Zonker can confirm or correct me...

Correct. "Hull speed" just defines a wave that is the same length as the static waterline. It's not a hard limit by any means. It just a place where the resistance curve is getting steeper.

The resistance curve for long skinny hulls is not as steep because resistance is composed of 2 main factors - skin friction + wave resistance. Long skinny hulls have lots of skin friction but it goes up linearly with speed. Then have less wave resistance due to their shape so their bow and stern waves aren't very big. Thus easier to power through the bow wave.

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The Wianno Senior was mentioned a few pages back.  It was recently pointed out to me that the mast rakes forward to alleviate weather helm.  JFK demonstrates the weather helm issue in one of the photos below.

 

 

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The Wianno Senior is extremely attractive in the water and also on land as a museum lawn ornament.  The gaff rig adds to the character and along with the centerboard provides plenty of lines to adjust to keep the crew busy.  

 

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3 hours ago, captain_crunch said:

The Wianno Senior was mentioned a few pages back.  It was recently pointed out to me that the mast rakes forward to alleviate weather helm.  JFK demonstrates the weather helm issue in one of the photos below.

 

 

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A bow sprit and flying jib to balance the sail plan a bit more would certainly help. She has sweet looking lines though.

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A real dog house on Thunderhead, just launched. At this angle, I think I can see how the designer (Philippe Rhodes) and the owner (50's ocean racer) collaborated to get what each wanted. 

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The massive bronze centerboard pulled few years back. 

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You can buy a sistership to Thunderhead, but I'm not sure she would do to replace the older sister. 

http://www.sandemanyachtcompany.co.uk/yacht/478/philip-rhodes-50-ft-cutter-1963

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43 minutes ago, Hawaiidart said:

The spiral companionway is an amazing piece of art.

But it is off the centerline.

 

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2 minutes ago, captain_crunch said:

But it is off the centerline.

 

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I was waiting for that to pop up in the thread and you did not disappoint!

- Stumbling

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On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 2:28 PM, captain_crunch said:

I wonder if Mr. Buffet's boat cost more than $2 million.  Think what else he might have bought.

 

 

But that's not the point of a custom boat. You buy custom to get what YOU want, not what anybody else in the past has ever wanted.

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1 minute ago, Cruisin Loser said:

But that's not the point of a custom boat. You buy custom to get what YOU want, not what anybody else in the past has ever wanted.

Agreed.  Mr. Buffet's boat is not what I would have wanted.

 

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Buffets boat looks like pretty much any open transom dock queen would have sufficed - for 1/5th the price.

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9 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Buffets boat looks like pretty much any open transom dock queen would have sufficed - for 1/5th the price.

I think he wanted the layout of a condomaran in a monohull.   Are there any other similar on the market like that?

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There seems to be a pattern of wealthy people building ugly yachts.  Andrey Melnichenko and Steve Jobs are prime offenders.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, captain_crunch said:

There seems to be a pattern of wealthy people building ugly yachts.  Andrey Melnichenko and Steve Jobs are prime offenders.

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I've actually started to kind of like that sub yacht.

Well....maybe "like" is too strong but it has definitely grown on me some.

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6 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I've actually started to kind of like that sub yacht.

Well....maybe "like" is too strong but it has definitely grown on me some.

It does have that Capt Nemo feel to it.  :D

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11 minutes ago, MauiPunter said:

It does have that Capt Nemo feel to it.  :D

I was thinking Dr. Evil, but I think they both work.

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32 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I've actually started to kind of like that sub yacht.

Well....maybe "like" is too strong but it has definitely grown on me some.

I don't much care for it, but it's nowhere near as butt ugly  as Sailing Yacht A.  Buffett's boat isn't ugly, but it's not particularly beautiful. Personally, I can't imagine dropping the coin on a custom boat that isn't beautiful besides being unique.  FRANKIE being a great example. JB won't be aboard on an offshore delivery, so only the captain and crew will have to suffer. It's a dock queen,  if that's what he wants. His money.  About 30 years ago he did have a wooden Herreshoff Alerion that was pretty cool...too bad he didn't maintain that standard.

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18 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

A bow sprit and flying jib to balance the sail plan a bit more would certainly help. She has sweet looking lines though.

Shit! Am I the only one overcome with melancholia looking at those photos?

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This needs a torpedo tube on the stem, like the USS Olympia.

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5 minutes ago, kinardly said:

Shit! Am I the only one overcome with melancholia looking at those photos?

No. I am too. We have to shoulder on. This too will end.

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4 minutes ago, Bull City said:

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This needs a torpedo tube on the stem, like the USS Olympia.

That needs a torpedo amidships.

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26 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

That needs a torpedo amidships.

Hold your fire until S/Y A is in range.

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59 minutes ago, kinardly said:

Shit! Am I the only one overcome with melancholia looking at those photos?

I highly recommend the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Victura-Kennedys-Sailboat-James-Graham-ebook/dp/B00IV25EN2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1525994834&sr=8-2&keywords=kennedy+and+the+sea&dpID=51-5P4Zc7WL&preST=_SY445_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

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1 hour ago, kinardly said:

Shit! Am I the only one overcome with melancholia looking at those photos?

I had the joy of growing up in Hyannisport and windsurfing around the Kennedy's boats.  Ted had a beautiful boat too, MYA:  

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Here is a shot from the Fagawi.  Love that event.

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6 hours ago, captain_crunch said:

But it is off the centerline.

 

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That's more of a twisted ladder than a stairway. Looks a bit difficult to climb if the boat is not moving. Maybe there's something to grab nearby but I can't see it.

From my list of things I know, but should not:

Falling down companionway stairs really hurts even if you're drunk.

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47 minutes ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

That's more of a twisted ladder than a stairway. Looks a bit difficult to climb if the boat is not moving. Maybe there's something to grab nearby but I can't see it.

From my list of things I know, but should not:

Falling down companionway stairs really hurts even if you're drunk.

The grate is there so you bleed out neatly.

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21 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

A bow sprit and flying jib to balance the sail plan a bit more would certainly help. She has sweet looking lines though.

Great boats. I have the Curlew and decided to wood it yesterday for a fresh paint job. Nice clean mahogany planks with Portland cement seams. Guess I’m going with brightwork for the topsides!

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4 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

Here is a shot from the Fagawi.  Love that event.

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Gollywobbler!

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9 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Great boats. I have the Curlew and decided to wood it yesterday for a fresh paint job. Nice clean mahogany planks with Portland cement seams. Guess I’m going with brightwork for the topsides!

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Don't!!

Unless it's a boat that spends more than 1/2 it's time stored indoors, don't varnish the topsides.

Almost as much a Kiss Of Death as fiberglassing the hull.

FB- Doug

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9 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Great boats. I have the Curlew and decided to wood it yesterday for a fresh paint job. Nice clean mahogany planks with Portland cement seams. Guess I’m going with brightwork for the topsides!

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Please keep us posted.  I had to look up Curlew on the roster < http://www.wiannosenior.org/fleet.htm >.  They have a photo of her from when she was Hermanos.  I admire your stamina for varnishing in proposing to make her topsides bright.  Unless I had the money to pay someone else to maintain the varnish I'd paint her.

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

Don't!!

Unless it's a boat that spends more than 1/2 it's time stored indoors, don't varnish the topsides.

Almost as much a Kiss Of Death as fiberglassing the hull.

FB- Doug

I thought that the brightwork on the mahogany topsides would last a long time like the varnish on the 1930 Chris Craft runabout that I’ve been zombiing for years. The boat is covered most of the time and is in the same area as Silent Maid.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

I thought that the brightwork on the mahogany topsides would last a long time like the varnish on the 1930 Chris Craft runabout rhat I’ve been zombiing for years. The boat is covered most of the time and is in the same area as Silent Maid

 

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Varnish is soft and porous...... maybe it depends on the environment, down here the alternating scorch of dry heat, and then 99.99% humidity, softens and twists the planks like a rubick's cube. I wouldn''t think it's that different where you are. One of my friends down here has a varnished Chris Craft (I think from the '40s) that he is struggling with after bringing it from Michigan where it lived in a barn anytime they weren't riding in it. I had a number of wooden boats with varying degrees of varnish, including a Kings Cruiser with a bright hull.

As an act of religious devotion, highly admirable.

I love the Wianno, it would be a great boat for around here

FB- Doug

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On 6/5/2017 at 2:12 PM, Sail4beer said:

A better pic of "Cornflower" hull#3, one of sistership "Minnow" in white and a beautiful rendering from the Osterville Museum's website

Mahogany on white oak frames and a one lung Yanmar.

The St. Lawrence cutter is a composite centerboard sloop with Alaskan cedar on white oak frames and steel floors and aluminum or stainless centerboard trunk case and cast iron centerboard and keel.

It was built to race the Newport Bermuda race for a prince but never made it due to the owner becoming ill...or so the story goes

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This is the boat I’m referring to- not a Winanno, but a smaller custom build.

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Mahogany runabouts are thinly planked between 1/4” - 3/8”thickness and weigh about 2-3,000 lbs with motor and transmission. This hull is nearly 1” thick on solid white oak frames and is 6,000 lbs including a small Yanmar Diesel. I don’t think think this boat will budge 1millimeter out of shape. Our summer temps might hit the 90’s, But the water temp is only about 75. I wouldn’t do it to a boat that lived in FL. I lived in the Keys and understand where you’re coming from...80’s air temp, 90’s water temp+ UV = death to a wooden boat.

 

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15 hours ago, Bull City said:

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This needs a torpedo tube on the stem, like the USS Olympia.

The torpedo tube is under the waterline at the bow where it belongs.

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50 minutes ago, Mr. Ed said:

Did you say cement in the seams? Tell me more ...

Portland cement. Used to seam mahogany planked boats above the waterline. The wood does not swell like a softwood such as cedar. It’s pretty permanent and waterproof to boot.

I don’t make up the rules and don’t often understand them. I just try to follow them so I don’t wreck what I’m doing...

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Thanks for the link Sail4. Pretty much what I had in mind. Good price if the brunette came with it. Still don't see a torpedo tube though. 

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5 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

Portland cement. Used to seam mahogany planked boats above the waterline. The wood does not swell like a softwood such as cedar. It’s pretty permanent and waterproof to boot.

I don’t make up the rules and don’t often understand them. I just try to follow them so I don’t wreck what I’m doing...

Interesting. Above the waterline makes more sense than how I read it first but I’m still surprised. I shall investigate - google here I come.  Portland cement is often considered a kiss of death for old  houses because it’s waterproof and inflexible. Lime mortar is your friend in that environment. 

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16 hours ago, Bull City said:

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This needs a torpedo tube on the stem, like the USS Olympia.

Unless they get the money together to save her, Olympia may lose that tube to the mud of the Delaware River. I spent some time working on her and there isn’t much below the waterline...:wacko:

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22 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I've actually started to kind of like that sub yacht.

Well....maybe "like" is too strong but it has definitely grown on me some.

Yes, I find supr yacht ugly but this one is not as bad as the more traditional ones to my eye.

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I'd take it.... and enjoy the heck out it!

 

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9 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Don't!!

Unless it's a boat that spends more than 1/2 it's time stored indoors, don't varnish the topsides.

Almost as much a Kiss Of Death as fiberglassing the hull.

FB- Doug

Firmly agree with you SF.

The cement seems will be at risk and fail as varnish does not offer the same protection that a paint based system with primers under coats and topcoats.Most bright hulls are splined or edge butt and glued.

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On 5/10/2018 at 2:05 PM, captain_crunch said:

But it is off the centerline.

 

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That'd be fun on starboard tack in a good breeze.

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15 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Firmly agree with you SF.

The cement seems will be at risk and fail as varnish does not offer the same protection that a paint based system with primers under coats and topcoats.Most bright hulls are splined or edge butt and glued.

Sail4beer seems to know what he's doing, just a head shaker thinking about all the work involved since it looked like it didn't need to be wooded anyway.

Nice yacht-y little boat, will be a beauty fer shure.

FB- Doug

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The cement seams the edges on a mahogany hull much like a splined cedar hull with cedar splines as my 46’ has. I’m going to use Awlwood on the topsides. It’s a hard, clear finish and I believe the job will last 10 years. The boat had been wooded with a grinder at some point and you could easily see the divots and other imperfections from 10 feet away. 

Also, the transom has been varnished since 1965 and other than being hazy, it’s on the list for refinishing.

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2 hours ago, monsoon said:

That'd be fun on starboard tack in a good breeze.

That's when you crawl over the settee and out the aft "companionway".

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On 5/10/2018 at 9:32 PM, Ishmael said:

The grate is there so you bleed out neatly.

There is something to be said for tidiness.

On 5/10/2018 at 11:58 PM, surfsailor said:
On 5/10/2018 at 7:47 PM, MauiPunter said:

Here is a shot from the Fagawi.  Love that event.

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Gollywobbler!

Yes and the timing of that picture is great. The wave that the boat is hitting is curling off the bow and the whitecap that was trying to form on top of it is exploding.

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3 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said:

There is something to be said for tidiness.

Yes and the timing of that picture is great. The wave that the boat is hitting is curling off the bow and the whitecap that was trying to form on top of it is exploding.

I think that's Ted Kennedy II Concordia schooner MYA. I recognize the pleats in the jib. 

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On 5/10/2018 at 8:48 PM, Priscilla said:

Amazing what a change in colour can do for the appeal of a yacht.

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How true. Imagine that boat with white topsides. Dark blue can make an ugly boat at least less ugly. 

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7 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

The cement seams the edges on a mahogany hull much like a splined cedar hull with cedar splines as my 46’ has. I’m going to use Awlwood on the topsides. It’s a hard, clear finish and I believe the job will last 10 years. The boat had been wooded with a grinder at some point and you could easily see the divots and other imperfections from 10 feet away. 

Also, the transom has been varnished since 1965 and other than being hazy, it’s on the list for refinishing.

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There is this company here that will wood your hull and leave it paint ready.

Water powered grinder with interchangeable heads.

https://www.x-foul-e-8.com/

 

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

How true. Imagine that boat with white topsides. Dark blue can make an ugly boat at least less ugly. 

Especially when it has a gold cove stripe. ;)

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4 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Especially when it has a gold cove stripe. ;)

A classic color combo that looks good on damn near any boat.

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