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Hey guys,

Wasn't there a catastrophic fail last year of the live video on the www?

I've got an itpv headend at work and a 10 mb fibre link to the www, I could stream the free to air coverage in Aus into the internet for fellow Aussies and SA'ers who are remote.(as mentioned prior, the coverage is not the best but it's live)

Problem is you would need to stream it to a hosting site like utube, something I am no expert at.

Any experts on streaming video to you tube or suchlike where people could watch, albeit it might be delayed some seconds for buffering etc?

The www is unicast, so I would have to stream to some website that could handle multiple simultaneous viewings.

Does SA have any capability in this area,aka the OTW video part of the site?

SB

 

 

maybe PM Clean, OTWAnarchy used JustinTV ?

 

AC34 live was youtube

 

 

go for it shaggy

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Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with streaming a live broadcast straight to YouTube or a similar site??

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Hi Gorn,

Yep, potentially. I punched out a formal request to Channel7 and also Optus Vast, will see where we sit.

I know for sure we can't charge for FTA, and the intent is cerainly not to, so I am hoping this is the difference.

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We are trying to get down there to help y'all out with a live stream or something near.

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Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with streaming a live broadcast straight to YouTube or a similar site??

Streaming the existing coverage to another site would definitely violate all sorts of Aus copyright laws. You could do it with a VPN and keep yourself hidden that way, we'd surely run it if you did...and delete these posts from the thread! :)

 

Justin.TV is free, Ustream is free if you take the SD option and be careful with what you sign up for, livestream has a free plan too.

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Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with streaming a live broadcast straight to YouTube or a similar site??

Streaming the existing coverage to another site would definitely violate all sorts of Aus copyright laws. You could do it with a VPN and keep yourself hidden that way, we'd surely run it if you did...and delete these posts from the thread! :)

 

Or if he makes a valid formal request from a valid formal broadcaster he doesn't have to worry.

 

But good luck with 'doing it with a vpn' and hiding from a media giant. I'm sure it would work out great.

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7 will put you on to Yahoo7 who will tell you they're streaming it themselves. Yahoo7 will then geo-restrict it and the feed will fall over at some point anyway for the rest of us, who will either watch it on 7 or in person.

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Don't forget to pack your pink flag.....................

We are trying to get down there to help y'all out with a live stream or something near.

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Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with streaming a live broadcast straight to YouTube or a similar site??

Streaming the existing coverage to another site would definitely violate all sorts of Aus copyright laws. You could do it with a VPN and keep yourself hidden that way, we'd surely run it if you did...and delete these posts from the thread! :)

 

Or if he makes a valid formal request from a valid formal broadcaster he doesn't have to worry.

 

But good luck with 'doing it with a vpn' and hiding from a media giant. I'm sure it would work out great.

 

If it's so hard, how do I watch every Formula One race on JTV? You really think networks permit anyone ever to re-stream their broadcasts? Not on this planet.

 

But yeah, you know best.

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Don't forget to pack your pink flag.....................

We are trying to get down there to help y'all out with a live stream or something near.

It's cool - I've got a whole box of these courtesy of some pals at a YC near you

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We are trying to get down there to help y'all out with a live stream or something near.

 

 

We'll be out watching the start on a Beneteau 50 if you need a ride.

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Might be able to offer a Bertam 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

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Might be able to offer a Bertram 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

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Bloody hell, that's a big Bertie!

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Might be able to offer a Bertram 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

Do you realise how much Vodka you can pack into the cockpit freezer on those????

 

Just sayin.....

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http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/sailing

 

 

11:00 Sydney to Hobart 2013 Markets (1)
Wild Oats XI 1.75
Perpetual Loyal 2.20
Ragamuffin 100 6.50
Beau Geste 21.00
Wild Thing 21.00
Zefiro 26.00
Ichiban 51.00

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BG pegging WT then! Big drop down from that to Rags though, I would've it to be smaller.

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they are definitely putting a price on WTs reliabilty

 

in the event that she has no issues thats the best price there,

I think BG is the right money

 

Rags appears good money but you'd need both favourites to cock-up, the odds of that are effectively halved

I've learned that you can never write off Syd, his S2H record is pretty sound

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http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/sailing

 

 

11:00 Sydney to Hobart 2013 Markets (1)
Wild Oats XI 1.75
Perpetual Loyal 2.20
Ragamuffin 100 6.50
Beau Geste 21.00
Wild Thing 21.00
Zefiro 26.00
Ichiban 51.00

you all should have got in earlier

i got wt at $26

and BG @$31

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I still think waiting for the weather forecast (Accurate One) is better if you are going to bet on say Beau Geste or even Loyal. Can't see WT winning no matter the weather. She is facing a possible 5th over the line imo.

 

 

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http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/sailing

 

 

11:00 Sydney to Hobart 2013 Markets (1)
Wild Oats XI 1.75
Perpetual Loyal 2.20
Ragamuffin 100 6.50
Beau Geste 21.00
Wild Thing 21.00
Zefiro 26.00
Ichiban 51.00

you all should have got in earlier

i got wt at $26

and BG @$31

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I still think waiting for the weather forecast (Accurate One) is better if you are going to bet on say Beau Geste or even Loyal. Can't see WT winning no matter the weather. She is facing a possible 5th over the line imo.

 

 

 

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http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/sailing

11:00

Sydney to Hobart 2013

Markets (1)

Wild Oats XI

1.75

Perpetual Loyal

2.20

Ragamuffin 100

6.50

Beau Geste

21.00

Wild Thing

21.00

Zefiro

26.00

Ichiban

51.00

 

11:00 Sydney to Hobart 2013 Markets (1)

 

Wild Oats XI 1.75

Perpetual Loyal 2.20

Ragamuffin 100 6.50

Beau Geste 21.00

Wild Thing 21.00

Zefiro 26.00

Ichiban 51.00

you all should have got in earlier

i got wt at $26

and BG @$31

I suppose that's what betting is all about!

 

But agree I'd want to see a forecast.

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Can someone post some more pics of Loyal / ichie or BG sailing ?

 

From sail world,

 

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In IRC racing I would have been putting my money on Celestial until a short while ago but I reckon the new Patrice is looking very threatening! Looking forward to following that tussle.

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For the Hobart a lot comes down to the crew, navigator and the conditions, I'm not familiar with some of the crew on various boats. Being able to keep the boat sailing at target speeds or above for long periods and at night when the crews start to tire is crucial and then where to place the boat on the course etc. The newer boats that also have good crews have to start favourites. We have a few new boats so it will be interesting.

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Is oats back in the water yet?

 

Is oats using DSS?

 

Rags100 foils did they happen?

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LDH, What has Celestial done in recent ocean races or Hobarts to make them your favourite? Patrice is a new Ker 46, but have there been any other Ker 46 versions been racing with ocean racing success? There are other boats from outside the CYCA which have great potential for winning this race!

 

Terrafirma, Agree with your statement on the crew, navigator and conditions. As some of us know, the race may not be all about down wind and reaching conditions! If you don't find that current down the coast you will find yourself 20nm behind after the first night!

 

It must be due for one of the hard on the nose gale force races like experienced in 1999 and 2000, these conditions will favour some of the older or all-round type upwind boats with many of the lighter down wind flyers struggling to sail to their handicap.

 

As Terrafirms stated, you may have a great helmsperson and trimmer on one watch, but what happens when they go down below to rest and the B watch are up one deck with less skills to keep the boat going?

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Celestial gave everyone a lesson in the Kepple race this year, I think they had a pretty solid Southport too. Macca and his boys are always solid in the ocean.

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Re Celestial, I think they came 2nd in the last blue water pointscore race, and some good racing to Keppel scored a win as said above. Dont think they were too hot to southport overall but 2nd in div which was the same div result as the year prior. I think its a well sailed boat and reckon Macca draws good odds.

 

Re Patrice, very good results for all of the (4?) times it has raced so far. Would have expected it to take longer to get it all ticking over so well.

 

If its on the nose and heavy I'd throw money on Hicko

 

First to admit I havent followed much racing outside Sydney, Southport and Hammo this year. Am sure there are lots of boats from all over the place with good odds on.

 

Re your last sentence, I'd like to think boats that wins IRC dont have a B watch.

LDH, What has Celestial done in recent ocean races or Hobarts to make them your favourite? Patrice is a new Ker 46, but have there been any other Ker 46 versions been racing with ocean racing success? There are other boats from outside the CYCA which have great potential for winning this race!

 

Terrafirma, Agree with your statement on the crew, navigator and conditions. As some of us know, the race may not be all about down wind and reaching conditions! If you don't find that current down the coast you will find yourself 20nm behind after the first night!

 

It must be due for one of the hard on the nose gale force races like experienced in 1999 and 2000, these conditions will favour some of the older or all-round type upwind boats with many of the lighter down wind flyers struggling to sail to their handicap.

 

As Terrafirms stated, you may have a great helmsperson and trimmer on one watch, but what happens when they go down below to rest and the B watch are up one deck with less skills to keep the boat going?

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Celestial gave everyone a lesson in the Kepple race this year, I think they had a pretty solid Southport too. Macca and his boys are always solid in the ocean.

Pretty big stretch using the Keppel race as an indication of good form in a Hobart, it was the usual sail-park-sail-park. I guess it could show Celestial has a good line to the weather gods if they managed to avoid most of the holes in the breeze

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Ok don't bet on them then. I garentee they will make you eat your words.

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As far as I know they never have taken these. Only line honours..

 

Which bookie is taking handicapped punts too?

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I still think waiting for the weather forecast (Accurate One) is better if you are going to bet on say Beau Geste or even Loyal. Can't see WT winning no matter the weather. She is facing a possible 5th over the line imo.

 

 

 

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http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/sailing

 

 

11:00

Sydney to Hobart 2013

Markets (1)

Wild Oats XI

1.75

Perpetual Loyal

2.20

Ragamuffin 100

6.50

Beau Geste

21.00

Wild Thing

21.00

Zefiro

26.00

Ichiban

51.00

 

11:00 Sydney to Hobart 2013 Markets (1)

 

Wild Oats XI 1.75

Perpetual Loyal 2.20

Ragamuffin 100 6.50

Beau Geste 21.00

Wild Thing 21.00

Zefiro 26.00

Ichiban 51.00

you all should have got in earlier

i got wt at $26

and BG @$31

I suppose that's what betting is all about!

 

But agree I'd want to see a forecast.

So you didn't see BG blow out to $67 then....

 

I did :ph34r:

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It must be due for one of the hard on the nose gale force races like experienced in 1999 and 2000

 

2004 was a bit rough too, lots of retirements.

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

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If oats doesn't get on the water this week loyal looks like a good way to double your money.

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Oats has firmed as favourite so someone knows something or we're the smart guys..! LOL

 

If oats doesn't get on the water this week loyal looks like a good way to double your money.

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Oats has firmed as favourite so someone knows something or we're the smart guys..! LOL

 

 

If oats doesn't get on the water this week loyal looks like a good way to double your money.

Yeah either that or they are going off past favourites. Bit like black clavier going in for a knee surgery. Likely it comes good again????

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

That sounds pretty cool, but what in fuck is a hungee?

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

That sounds pretty cool, but what in fuck is a hungee?

Total amount when you have two fiddys

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

That sounds pretty cool, but what in fuck is a hungee?

Sheep Shagger for "benjamins!!!!!!"

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Oats has firmed as favourite so someone knows something or we're the smart guys..! LOL

or the bookies are hedging against the amount of money going on Oats, and not on Loyal

 

its the maths imo

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Might be able to offer a Bertam 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

Damn! You win. what size SA t-shirt?

 

;)

 

Willl let you know if the plane tix come through. should know by sat.

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from the mundlefly

 

Bob Oatley’s all-conquering supermaxi, Wild Oats XI, will go one step closer to resuming preparations for the Rolex Sydney Hobart Race tomorrow when the yacht’s new mast, which almost broke during preliminary trials two weeks ago, is re-stepped following major repairs.

It was only a quick reaction by the crew that prevented the 45-metre high carbon fibre mast from breaking in two and crashing over the side after it suffered what the yacht’s skipper, Mark Richards, described as a “catastrophic failure”.

“It’s a miracle the mast didn’t break,” Richards said. “One minute we were sailing along perfectly normally then there was an almighty bang as the section fractured.”

After more than 10 days of intense repair work, a large crane will lift the mast back into place aboard the yacht at Woolwich Dock, in Sydney, at 9.30am tomorrow.

The 30-metre long supermaxi – the most successful yacht to contest the Sydney Hobart race in its 69 year history – was being put through her paces 20 nautical miles off Sydney when the incident occurred. The mast section compressed and fractured at the point where the boom attaches to the mast.

Fortunately, representatives from the New Zealand-based mast manufacturer were aboard Wild Oats XI at the time, so plans for a repair were initiated immediately. A replacement section was made at the company’s facility then flown to Sydney. Technicians also flew to Sydney to coordinate the repair.

“Everyone is confident the repaired section is stronger and more than capable of accommodating the compression loads the boom exerts on the mast,” Mark Richards said. “Our big challenge now is to make up for the training time we have lost in preparation for the Rolex Sydney Hobart race.”

The rigging will be tensioned and the mast tuned at the dock tomorrow before sailing training resumes on Friday. The yacht will go into full race mode this weekend so the required 24-hour qualifying run for the Hobart race can be completed.

As race record holder, Wild Oats XI is seen as the boat to beat in the hunt for line honours in this year’s Rolex Sydney Hobart race. She will have the first showdown with her strongest challenger, Anthony Bell’s similar-sized, Perpetual Loyal, on Sydney Harbour next Tuesday. Both yachts are part of the impressive fleet entered for the Solas Big Boat Challenge – a curtain raiser for the 628 nautical mile Hobart classic, which starts on Boxing Day.

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More facts than fluff. Rare for a Mundle article! That's pretty much word for word what Ricko told me.... they almost lost it.

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I'd be running with the old rig……. and asking for a refund

 

you would be handing the race to Loyal. New rig is HUNDREDS of kilos lighter.

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Would have been an awkward motor home to the marina that day for the Southern Spars boys who were onboard.

 

I bet Southern haven't made much money out of this mast.

 

Cheers

Mojo

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Might be able to offer a Bertam 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

Damn! You win. what size SA t-shirt?

 

;)

 

Willl let you know if the plane tix come through. should know by sat.

XL. We now have the boat in Sydney

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Rags 100 New dagger boards = yes

WO DSS = Only goss and rumour...? Anybody

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I seriously doubt that they decided to remove the DSS 3 weeks before Hobart AFTER having a massive mast failure.

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

That sounds pretty cool, but what in fuck is a hungee?

Sheep Shagger for "benjamins!!!!!!"

Wrong island Wespy B)

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WO XI mast is back in this morning with a shiny new bottom section.

 

Word is the whole new mast/boom/PBO package from Southern Spars cost $1.8m :o and Bob may ask for a new free replacement next year if this stick doesn't hold up !

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I dunno who does it but you can absolutely bet on h'cap results. One of my mates was on Two True in 2009 and put a hungee on them to win. Won about 14 grand!

That sounds pretty cool, but what in fuck is a hungee?

Sheep Shagger for "benjamins!!!!!!"

Wrong island Wespy B)

 

You all sound the same to me ;)

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Wow 1.8m for a mast / boom combo seems huge money to me.

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Wow 1.8m for a mast / boom combo seems huge money to me.

 

$1.8 million NZ = $890K Aus plus taxes to pay for ETNZ AC35

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Not sure about that calculation but the humour is good.

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Can someone do the research into bookies? Particularly those that offer a free first $25 bet or something. We'd make a good syndicate eh!

 

sportsbet.com.au matching bets to $250 on a first bet on your account.... Could be a goer?!

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does anyone know if Oats tested the new old stock rig today….?

 

were they all wearing helmets :rolleyes:

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the rig 'in' today and its the new one, as ya know

 

leaves 4 full days toon up b4 the Big Boat Challenge

 

WSW front rolled through this morning peaking at 51knts in the arvo so I guess no sailing and lucky to get it in (earlier than later?)

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Bob Oatley called. He asked "what's an IRC" and how can he buy the company. :-)

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Bidding is over for the Big Boat Race rides,

WOXI = $1825 (2 spots)

Loyal = $1576 (2 spots)

Wild Thing = $620 (2 spots)

Black Jack = $391 (1 spot)

Giacomo = $621 (2 spots)

Brindabella = $536 (2 spots)

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well WO just won the 'popularity hobart'

 

3 to go

'the pre hobart' (BB challenge)

'the hobart wagering' (money plunged on each boat w/ online bookies)

and finally the S2H

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Bidding is over for the Big Boat Race rides,

WOXI = $1825 (2 spots)

Loyal = $1576 (2 spots)

Wild Thing = $620 (2 spots)

Black Jack = $391 (1 spot)

Giacomo = $621 (2 spots)

Brindabella = $536 (2 spots)

 

Loyal was only $900 with 5 minutes to go.

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well WO just won the 'popularity hobart'

 

3 to go

'the pre hobart' (BB challenge)

'the hobart wagering' (money plunged on each boat w/ online bookies)

and finally the S2H

 

Don't forget first out of the heads

 

Cheers

Mojo

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Might be able to offer a Bertram 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

Do you realise how much Vodka you can pack into the cockpit freezer on those????

 

Just sayin.....

Yep

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Might be able to offer a Bertam 70. Will know when we get to Sydney later this week

Damn! You win. what size SA t-shirt?

 

;)

 

Willl let you know if the plane tix come through. should know by sat.

Let me know when you get the tickets. We have got a tuna tower, so good for filming/pictures

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Bidding is over for the Big Boat Race rides,

WOXI = $1825 (2 spots)

Loyal = $1576 (2 spots)

Wild Thing = $620 (2 spots)

Black Jack = $391 (1 spot)

Giacomo = $621 (2 spots)

Brindabella = $536 (2 spots)

 

Loyal was only $900 with 5 minutes to go.

 

 

My mate won the ride on Giacomo and I'm going with him! Sailing Anarchy updates live from the racecourse...

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Oats has been sailing off the northern beaches thisarv - fingers crossed all went well.

 

you can track their pace on Marine Traffic - for once they had the AIS switched on

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well WO just won the 'popularity hobart'

 

3 to go

'the pre hobart' (BB challenge)

'the hobart wagering' (money plunged on each boat w/ online bookies)

and finally the S2H

Don't forget first out of the heads

 

Cheers

Mojo

Have to agree. I'd guess 60% of viewers stop caring once the race to the turning mark is over and another 30% are interested until the sport report on the 6pm news. So that's two more races.

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photo evidence Oats is baaack https://www.facebook.com/tindill

 

 

good idea Bill E

AIS shipping movements offshore http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:151.3187/centery:-33.98709/zoom:8/mmsi:503087800

 

at botany bay leads

 

WO leads wharro and the VO70 chasing in sfa breeze, wild rose is there, Zefiro at CYC

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Does look very light out there. Hard to know exactly but 4-7 approx.

 

WO doing 11.7 in that. Not bad at all !!!!!

 

Wild Rose doing 7.2 so there must be some pressure there.

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Tracker showing Southern Excellence in front of Wild Oats?

 

Something wrong on WO?

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yeah

 

i think as this is a worldwide system with tens of thousand of targets the accuracy of fine data might be kinda general ? & updates differential on various targets not aligning?

 

ie southern excellence is ahead of WOxi ?

 

(eg click on vessel - WOxi last update 56 mins ago, So' Excell is 12 mins ago, explains why)

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Chased Black Jack out of the heads at 12.30, she wasn't hanging about! Looking good.

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marinetraffic shows Giacomo has left AKL for SYD

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marinetraffic shows Giacomo has left AKL for SYD

Will she make it I time for the big boats on Tuesday ?

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maybe with the breeze up her R's ? she entered?

 

nice NE'er

WO off mona vale

WT off manly

So'Ex off ben buckler with another slightly smaller

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WOxi streaming south at 16kt off Copacabana (waether shore stations have much less than this as the avg TWS)

So'Ex approachng cabbage tree

Hicko going Nth of the nthn beaches

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In IRC racing I would have been putting my money on Celestial until a short while ago but I reckon the new Patrice is looking very threatening! Looking forward to following that tussle.

Me too. One of my crew is onboard Patrice. Nice looking boat.

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Does anyone know for sure whether or not WO is going with DSS?

The chances they have removed it are probably about the same as being hit by lightening.

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maybe with the breeze up her R's ? she entered?

 

For some reason, I read that in my brain, sounding like Tony Greig

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