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Doing delivery to get up there early this year. Hoping for good wind, but could do with out the 40kt gusts we saw last year.

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Looks like some breeze will kick in early in the week, hopefully it will hold.

 

 

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CENTRAL U.S. WATERS STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA-
240 PM PDT FRI MAY 17 2013

TONIGHT...VARIABLE WIND 10 KT BECOMING W 15 TO 20 KT THIS EVENING. WIND WAVES 1 TO 3 FT. SCATTERED SHOWERS.

SAT...E WIND 10 KT BECOMING W IN THE AFTERNOON. WIND WAVES 1 FT. SHOWERS LIKELY.

SAT NIGHT...W WIND 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 2 TO 4 FT. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS.

SUN...W WIND 10 TO 20 KT. WIND WAVES 1 TO 3 FT.

SUN NIGHT...W WIND 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 2 TO 4 FT.

MON...W WIND TO 10 KT. WIND WAVES 1 FT OR LESS.

MON NIGHT...W WIND 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 2 TO 4 FT.

TUE...W WIND 15 TO 25 KT. WIND WAVES 2 TO 4 FT.

WED...W WIND 10 TO 20 KT. WIND WAVES 1 TO 3 FT.

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I wanted to do this race and had a ride but the old lady said we had to cruise our boat with our kids as it was there three day weekend as well... Maybe next year. Hope there is wind for everyone.

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Trying to get the new electronics wired before the race. Unless there's some kind of award for "old-timey-no-electronics" class? :)

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Trying to get the new electronics wired before the race. Unless there's some kind of award for "old-timey-no-electronics" class? :)

That's funny. Maybe ask the local rater to give you a new rating without electronics. :rolleyes:

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I am also heading up Thursday , Good to take in that current breifing they host. New code Zero hope we can use it.

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I heard the Monty's is closed....

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I heard the Monty's is closed....

Sure sign that THE END IS NEAR! if true

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I heard the Monty's is closed....

Sure sign that THE END IS NEAR! if true

No shit! The Vancouver institution Cecil is gone too. The humanity !!!

 

I'm out for Swiftsure this year and going cruising. It's a goofy race anyway but Victoria at Swiftsure is always a good time. Interesting to see the inshore there. Worked okay at Straits.

 

Don't know about the weather EC says 10 to 15 but that's a general observation. The good models are saying 10ish but don't hold your breath. But holey-smokes the tide & currents zero tide Saturday morning and a 6.1 knot flood at Race starting just before noon. Some of the fastest currents of teh year. That might be an issue - get your long anchor rode ready!

 

Have a good time everyone.

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I heard the Monty's is closed....

Sure sign that THE END IS NEAR! if true

It's all true...

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Yeah the Monty's thing is rough.

Good thing Campbell River has the only full time peelers.

I guess lunch at JJ's will suffice before heading down island to the newly wed and nearly dead Victoria.

 

GS

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I'm guest tactician on Oriole this weekend. Looks like my job will be easy - won't matter which way we (try to) go. At least I'll be eating better food than any of you guys on plastic boats.

 

We got a good training sail in yesterday. 18ish knots from the SE, nice flat water. We had the old girl doing 10 upwind and 12s with the a-kite up.

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I'm guest tactician on Oriole this weekend. Looks like my job will be easy - won't matter which way we (try to) go. At least I'll be eating better food than any of you guys on plastic boats.

 

We got a good training sail in yesterday. 18ish knots from the SE, nice flat water. We had the old girl doing 10 upwind and 12s with the a-kite up.

'Upwind' being a relative term...

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Yeah the Monty's thing is rough.

Good thing Campbell River has the only full time peelers.

I guess lunch at JJ's will suffice before heading down island to the newly wed and nearly dead Victoria.

 

GS

Whoa, not so fast partner....It's a five minute cab ride from inner harbour to the Fox. We still have a full time show, you just can't walk there as easily as Monty's.

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'Upwind' being a relative term...

 

Good point. The tacking angles aren't pretty, and the leeway makes it worse.

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Hmmm....I was going to say that the forecast is looking better than usual, but I don't want to Jynx it!

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great race to watch online.... good rounding bob and crew.

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The best part was spending this weekend moving. No internet, so I missed the first 30 hours. What did I miss?

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The fleet had enough breeze after the start to squeak through Race Pass before the door shut. Got progressively lighter into the evening and zilch overnight. Many boats retired. Icon is currently (4:30 p.m. Sunday) between the Race and the finish. Others spread out all over the course.

 

You had more fun than anyone doing the race.

 

 

 

The best part was spending this weekend moving. No internet, so I missed the first 30 hours. What did I miss?

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Hey Bcam,

 

I'm on Gambier Is. Right now through Tuesday and I took pass looking at the conditions that was l good call. But the tracker on my bat phone doesn't work well. However I understand it was a grind with a lot boats canned it.

 

I'm amongst the otters & other wildlife and no other boats so can anyone comment?

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Hey Bcam,

 

I'm on Gambier Is. Right now through Tuesday and I took pass looking at the conditions that was l good call. But the tracker on my bat phone doesn't work well. However I understand it was a grind with a lot boats canned it.

 

I'm amongst the otters & other wildlife and no other boats so can anyone comment?

canal1.jpg

 

If you look fast to the leftside of the picture, you could see the osprey that visited this morning. So, I'm down with the wildlife thing.

 

Sorry there wasn't much of a race for CFU, look forward to the stories, or lies as it may be.

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Update: 6:20 p.m. Icon is spinning circles at .3 knots halfway between the Race and the finish. Night Runner is doing an end around and looks like they may end up being the winner.

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Thanks for the update Hg. I'm having a cocktail and lighting the barbie. Sounds like a tough race.

 

 

Nothing against Icon but go Nightrunner!

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I'm with you on that Max. I like ICON but NIGHT RUNNER has a place in my heart.

A NIGHT RUNNER, ICON one two would suit me fine.

I'd be content with an ICON, NIGHT RUNNER one two, but I think the CAR may have something to say about that before it's over.

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Burb! Sorry, chicken & corn....and a nice French Colombard.

 

And yes Bob, the Car is always in it to the bitter end but I can't get the tracker to work properly.

 

In 2005 we got line honors on Coruba at 0115. Great race but still finishing yet must be like eating bees.

 

Good to see your designs doing over the whole spectrum.

 

Crap. Rain squall....don't want to watermy wine.

 

Later

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Shitski! This is the slowest Swiftsure I think I have seen in 50 years. It looks like ICON is going backwards now. Rage is coming on. I have never finished the race this late.

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Night Runner wins Swiftsure!

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Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

I look at the rating of NIGH RUNNER and I think i's to low, too fast for a boat designed 37 years ago. Maybe not.

Well, I'll strut around the shack today feeling smug waiting for my neighbors to come over and congratulate me.

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Double Yeah!!!!!

 

MY-TAI the Ft10m won the Juan de Fuca overall. The boat you love to hate came through in very demanding conditions.

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Double Yeah!!!!!

 

MY-TAI the Ft10m won the Juan de Fuca overall. The boat you love to hate came through in very demanding conditions.

Awsome job getting out of Clallam and battling to the finish in the light stuff My-Tai.

Some serious patience for the other boats that stuck it out to the end.

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What was that, Doug Fryer's "75th" Swiftsure? I believe this is Night Runner's third overall Swiftsure win but what is really impressive to me is that they won it in 2011 with a heavy air run and this year in very light air keeping the boat moving all the time. And, it looks like some new sails on the boat.

 

Good luck on the Van Isle!

 

Moe

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Beautiful event, but alas, little wind. For those that retired early, we understand; for those that pressed on, you've earned our admiration. Please enjoy these photographs as much as Mocha and I enjoyed seeing you all! Here's a link to some of the action!

 

Photos from Swiftsure 2013

http://janpix.smugmug.com/Boats/Swiftsure-2013/29633761_v2KV5q

 

Jan Anderson

Jan's Marine Photography

janpix@comcast.net

 

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Jan:

Nice shot of NIGHT RUNNER. I'd like to get that from you. I assume there is info on your link for me to get the photo.

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Anyone else heard chatter that RVicYC is contemplating eliminating the Flattery Unlimited Race?

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Ugh. I hope to forget that experience as soon as possible.

With you on that one.

I never want to spend yet another lifetime in Neah Bay.

 

GS

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Anyone else heard chatter that RVicYC is contemplating eliminating the Flattery Unlimited Race?

If it was discussed in the steering committee, I missed it.

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Yah ... but there are still strippers at the Red Lion (where the locals have always gone ...).

 

I heard the Monty's is closed....

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Well, we made fantastic time to Clallam bay, rounding the mark with with some very fast boats. But after bobbing a mile from where we rounded for another 11 hours we decided to pack it in.

 

Congrats to those who had the stamina to stick it out; Particilarly My-Tai and Koru.

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Big:

Go to the Swiftsure race 2013 web site and read for yourself. It's not hard. All results ( preliminary) are now posted.

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Anyone else heard chatter that RVicYC is contemplating eliminating the Flattery Unlimited Race?

It would be OK with me.

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Looking slow. Dragonfly and Muffin with gear problems?

 

http://tracker.swiftsure.org/

No gear problems on Muffin. Crew did the math after looking at tides and wx forecast, and decided to head home while it was still fun. Great food and really great people.

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Big:

Go to the Swiftsure race 2013 web site and read for yourself. It's not hard. All results ( preliminary) are now posted.

Did that did not see any IRC results?

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Many may not know this:

 

The wife of JAM's owner (whose initials comprise the name of the boat) passed away in the week per to Swiftsure this year. It is only fitting that the crew (minus the owner) sailed to a First in Class in their division in her memory.

 

Julie was a beautiful and very graceful woman. Her loss is a loss for all within the Gig Harbor sailing community. She was quite supportive of her husband, John, and all who sailed aboard JAM.

 

Congratulations to the crew of JAM; we will miss you Julie.

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Yes. Such a sad note. Great job to Tom Jones and the rest of the JAM crew for sticking out the sufferfest and making great work of it. Julie and John were in my and Kerry's thoughts this weekend.

 

Alex

 

Many may not know this:

The wife of JAM's owner (whose initials comprise the name of the boat) passed away in the week per to Swiftsure this year. It is only fitting that the crew (minus the owner) sailed to a First in Class in their division in her memory.

Julie was a beautiful and very graceful woman. Her loss is a loss for all within the Gig Harbor sailing community. She was quite supportive of her husband, John, and all who sailed aboard JAM.

Congratulations to the crew of JAM; we will miss you Julie.

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We on New Haven had a good battle going with JAM and Mardi Gras the whole way home, which kept things interesting. Congratulations to JAM! Is anyone from Mardi Gras on here - I have one stunning pic of Mardi Gras from early morning at Swiftsure Bank I'd like to share.

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Examining the Unlimited Flattery round times, they seem wrong. Wasabi followed by Double Take rounded the Neah Bay mark first, then Longboard. Also, Glory never rounded the mark, yet still has a rounding time.

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That was a painful Swiftsure, but still fun times, luckily Friday was nice... We were looking solid after "rafting" through Race Rocks, only to just miss out using some of the last breeze to get over to the toilet bowl ride back in to Victoria. Daughter asked me last night why we were going the wrong way from Victoria Sunday evening... Did the math on our logistics plan and had to pull the plug. :( Some serious respect to boats that played it right, stuck it out, and made the finish. Night Runner wins the Lightship, and a J/105 wins Flattery in light air, go figure... Saw significantly more wind/waves across Haro straight on Monday than either Offshore or Swiftsure.

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I you would of won, you would have thought yourselves brilliant. There was still 7 more hours in the time limit and we were prepared to stay.

Ugh. I hope to forget that experience as soon as possible.

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ericrayl I was on Marda Gra and I just sent you a PM

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Examining the Unlimited Flattery round times, they seem wrong. Wasabi followed by Double Take rounded the Neah Bay mark first, then Longboard. Also, Glory never rounded the mark, yet still has a rounding time.

 

Well, I won't argue about who was named as the first place awardee (I could...maybe I even should....but I won't), but the listed times seem whacky.

 

I expect there may be a recalculation in the works. I wouldn't be shocked to see Longboard jump into first place.

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Rounding times for Cape Flattery Unlimited? Who cares. An Olson 30 managed to finish the Cape Flattery course. What's up with all the big boats dropping out?!?

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Rounding times for Cape Flattery Unlimited? Who cares. An Olson 30 managed to finish the Cape Flattery course. What's up with all the big boats dropping out?!?

Not to mention "Mata Hari", the Catalina 36 that also finished.

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I you would of won, you would have thought yourselves brilliant. There was still 7 more hours in the time limit and we were prepared to stay.

 

Ugh. I hope to forget that experience as soon as possible.

Good for you. I enjoy sailing, not drifting, whether I win or lose. 38 hours to go 138 miles sucks in any case. Congrats on line honors, you earned it.

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Oh now you're just being self-serving. Yeah, an Olson 30 finished Flattery, and yes, we know you finished Juan de Fuca in your Olson 30. Congratulations. No need to pass judgement on the 100 of the 138 other boats that decided to pack it in and give it a go next year.

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Ultra:

That was the idea and I did my best. If you had told me 33 years ago she would have won overall the last two out of three Swiftsures I would have said you were dreaming. It was designed entirely as a cruising boat.

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Rounding times for Cape Flattery Unlimited? Who cares. An Olson 30 managed to finish the Cape Flattery course. What's up with all the big boats dropping out?!?

What's up is perhaps they can interpret weather reports (Not even a bit of gradient to the pressure-slopes all around the Salish Sea, static high pressure, E 4 at La Perouse Bank, and a -3.3 tide coming up...what's not to love) and understand that an event where you stop dead in the water multiple times is no longer a race, but an act of willfulness and and an absolute crapshoot.

 

This was just my 40th Swiftsure so I think I may have some credibility about when it's appropriate to pull the plug on a total snooze fest and start prepping for the next event which is the Van Isle 360.

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I remember a Saliva Shoals race years ago. No wind, fleet all packed together. Greg Hedrick sailing a 3/4 pounder. Drifting along at 4:30 all of a sudden the engine fired up on Greg's boat and they spun out of the parade at full bore. I asked him later why they quit. He said the crew had made a pact before the race, "If they weren't having fun by 4:30 they'd quit."

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Exactly. See you in Nanaimo!

 

an event where you stop dead in the water multiple times is no longer a race, but an act of willfulness and and an absolute crapshoot.

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We have the "triple-zero" rule. If you see 0.00 on the knot meter, three distinctly separate times, it no longer is a race. Then we take a crew vote.

 

I think we were up to seven separate triple-zero moments on 2013 Driftsure before we got to Neah Bay. The vote was 9-1 to bail after we rounded, with the one just being stubborn for the record.

 

And the guy who asked for IRC results...Really? You want to know how boats did under a time-on-time rule when the average boat speed was around two knots? What possible or useful data-point would that produce?

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Ultra:

That was the idea and I did my best. If you had told me 33 years ago she would have won overall the last two out of three Swiftsures I would have said you were dreaming. It was designed entirely as a cruising boat.

 

I hear ya Bob - good on for team NR and your great design to stick it to the naysayers & cruising sailor that a boat should be heavy enough to bend light. Night Runner seems to be slippery in the light which is odd for it's config but then again they have that spinnaker the size a small African country - that helps! But many a Swiftsure, in the light, against much bigger, meaner & uglier boats that I've been on and there's that kite just behind us on horizon. It's a deal of "How can we miss you if you want go away!". Many times at Straits too. "Jeebus, there right behind us - again."

 

Has NR won the OA three times or not? I know Robbie and team Coruba has, as the same N/M 70 boat I mean, has done that three times and finally quit completely! Probably for good reason.

 

And Asymptote:

I can't say that I've done 40 but I started doing Swiftsure in 1976 so close. In the days of Peterson 35 downwind pain boxes. Lot of years I took a pass. It's a goofy race in the first place and it's the social event really. One year, when my regular program took a pass saying: " I'd rather sort my sock drawer thanks." so I went to Victoria and maybe hitch a good ride. After a couple of hours in the inner harbour I said screw this I booked a room, got stupid(er) and watched the start then became a tourist. Oddly enough, by happy hour on Saturday, Victoria was crammed full of girlfriends, wives & hanger-on's looking for something to do. We had a whale of the time!!! Who's the dummy?

 

The race itself was another snoozefest/counter current/teeth pulling experience so the next day I had a lazy breakfast and went into the tent to see what was going in. Someone that knows me said: "How'd you do?" "Errr....I think I won!" I'm not sure he understood but I did.

 

Do it again? Perhaps, but for the event. There are some very good sailors take a pass.

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Max:

Yes, three times for NIGHT RUNNER and two out of the last three overalls.

 

I started sailing Swiftsure in 1963, when there was one course and one fleet and men were men. I sailed long course one year on Phil Tucker's Islander 30. We used a Lightning spin for a blooper. Didn't work very well. I have not sailed it every year. Think I am over it now.

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Most of us are out there to have fun. Saturday all the way to Neah Bay was fun, and it was a real race. Artemis, Flash, Glory, Double Take, Wasabi, Longboard, Strider, Lawndart ALL looking good at times and looking not so good at times. Up there with the leaders, Neptune, Icon, Rage, New Haven, Jam, Marda. ALL looking good at times, not so good at times. People were all into it, and the entire fleet was in it. Great time to the mark most of the day. For a while we thought we might round earlier than last year, which was a fast year! Once around the mark most of us were willing to give it a really good long time for something to happen: land heating the next day for some westerly beating out the easterly, or a couple more knots of easterly if not.,..just anything that showed a change.

 

But nothing happened. 40 hours to go 100 miles is much poorer performance than even a slow Chicago Mac race, against which most driftathons can probably be measured. But we still had a race going on: We were still leading the Flattery Unlimited fleet, Double Take was 200 meters astern of us at Jordan River, making a great go of it! Longboard was 5 miles back overnight. But it wasnt really that interesting anymore, in fact it was reminiscent of just about every OTHER race we sailed this spring in these waters: South Straits, Oregon Offshore, Vashon Is race, Center Sound races, PSSR....all drifters.

 

Sometimes people just want to salvage a weekend with family.

 

Rounding times for Cape Flattery Unlimited? Who cares. An Olson 30 managed to finish the Cape Flattery course. What's up with all the big boats dropping out?!?

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JAM had a great race with New Haven and Marda Gra! We all stayed together and took turns leading. We had a great time short tacking up the Canadian Shore with wind getting as high as 15kts! Right to the end, the three of us were fighting hard. We were lucky enough to get a puff at the end or Marda would have beaten us and with 3 miles to go, it looked like New Haven had us both. It was long, sure, but the three boats had a great race and there wasn't a thought of quitting. After all, it's a distance race, not something you shorten and yes 0.00kt is part of the race, as well as the currents and the private holes. But that is usually when the best conversations are!!

If you and your crew aren't having fun, stop racing, but 90% of the 194 boats registered for the journey and doing the best they can under whatever mother nature throws at them, not the pickle dish.

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JAM had a great race with New Haven and Marda Gra! We all stayed together and took turns leading. We had a great time short tacking up the Canadian Shore with wind getting as high as 15kts! Right to the end, the three of us were fighting hard. We were lucky enough to get a puff at the end or Marda would have beaten us and with 3 miles to go, it looked like New Haven had us both. It was long, sure, but the three boats had a great race and there wasn't a thought of quitting. After all, it's a distance race, not something you shorten and yes 0.00kt is part of the race, as well as the currents and the private holes. But that is usually when the best conversations are!!

If you and your crew aren't having fun, stop racing, but 90% of the 194 boats registered for the journey and doing the best they can under whatever mother nature throws at them, not the pickle dish.

Glad you had fun, but that's some interesting math there. Do you mean that 175 boats were engaged in a meritorious "journey" that they completed somehow? And 19.4 boats had only the unsavory, nay, even greedy, intentions of securing more elegant cut glass for their breakfront? And that those dropping out of the arduous (but fun!) journey thus identified themselves as those prostitutes for trophies? But that makes no sense...if you drop out, you don't get the pickle dish.

 

Oh, seriously....congratulations on your win. You deserved it. No question. And many condolences as well.

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The truly sadistic thing about Night Runner is how recognizable it is. You can be on some 50' carbon race boat and even if you are 10 miles ahead of the Runner at sunset and can't tell who any of the boats on the horizon are, the silhouette of Night Runner with that bowsprit is easy to pick out. It's positively demoralizing.

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The truly sadistic thing about Night Runner is how recognizable it is. You can be on some 50' carbon race boat and even if you are 10 miles ahead of the Runner at sunset and can't tell who any of the boats on the horizon are, the silhouette of Night Runner with that bowsprit is easy to pick out. It's positively demoralizing.

My point as well.

 

Happy BD mate (yesterday). What? Did you finally crack 30? ;)

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I suppose you are going to blame me when next year a bunch of woodies with bowsprits hit the line.

I'm always on the cutting edge.

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The truly sadistic thing about Night Runner is how recognizable it is. You can be on some 50' carbon race boat and even if you are 10 miles ahead of the Runner at sunset and can't tell who any of the boats on the horizon are, the silhouette of Night Runner with that bowsprit is easy to pick out. It's positively demoralizing.

Yeah, we like it that way.

 

JM

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