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That's horrible. RIP to the victim.

 

Is the Government's emergency response committee seriously named Cobra though?

 

Home Secretary Theresa May calls a meeting of Cobra, the government's emergency response committee, describing the attack as "sickening and barbaric"

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I'm trying to find anything about beheading anywhere on that page.

 

 

Jfc, is that your only way to verify something? From one site? 'Cuz it's been reported on the other 13,693,915 news agencies already.

 

Sheesh, f'ng Luddite....

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Silly me for clicking on the link that says beheading and expecting to read something about a beheading.

 

It's true though, I do suck at the intarwebz.

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Silly me for clicking on the link that says beheading and expecting to read something about a beheading.

 

It's true though, I do suck at the intarwebz.

 

 

I apologize for my sudden, meany-poo outburst. But now it's back to the Gutenberg press with ya.....

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Quote from article:

 

"The same witness also said that some unarmed police were nearby but did not want to approach the men, who appeared to be armed, until armed “Trojan” police arrived."

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/22/chilling-video-of-london-attacker-explaining-machete-attack-on-reported-soldier/

 

 

I rest my case.....

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There is a fair bit of Islamophobia in this thread, Islam is a religion of peace, chopping heads off is only ok if you chant Allahu akbar.

 

Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy would approve of this behaviour from a muslim revert called Mujahid, with a name like that you know all will end well.

 

http://www.quran.com/47/4

 

http://www.quran.com/5/33

 

http://www.quran.com/9/5

 

Islam translated from Arabic means "submission", if a muslim says Islam means peace they are speaking fluent bullshit.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

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I wonder what that lady will think when she sees herself on the Beeb, just a-moseying up to and right past a blood-drenched, clever-waving raving lunatic?

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

 

Don't worry, the Brits are on it... Pointless

 

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

 

Don't worry, the Brits are on it... Pointless

 

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It's a good thing he couldn't get his bloody mitts on a semi-automatic weapon. One soldier dead in a cleaver attack is bad enough, a Tuscon-style massacre would really have sucked a lot worse. Chalk one up for gun control.

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What? There's also a ban on pressure cookers, gasoline, fertilizer and automobiles in Englandia?....

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

Don't worry, the Brits are on it... Pointless

 

3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg

It's a good thing he couldn't get his bloody mitts on a semi-automatic weapon. One soldier dead in a cleaver attack is bad enough, a Tuscon-style massacre would really have sucked a lot worse. Chalk one up for gun control.
Reports are they had a handgun as well. In spite of gun control.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

Don't worry, the Brits are on it... Pointless

 

3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg

It's a good thing he couldn't get his bloody mitts on a semi-automatic weapon. One soldier dead in a cleaver attack is bad enough, a Tuscon-style massacre would really have sucked a lot worse. Chalk one up for gun control.
Reports are they had a handgun as well. In spite of gun control.

The report of a gun is total shit, if they had one many more would have been killed with out a doubt.

Gun controls do work.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

 

Might be he was dts before there were dozens of people.

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There are reports of passersby trying to protect the victim after the yahoo's set upon him. Anti islam rhetoric amping up big time in Britain.

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I wonder what that lady will think when she sees herself on the Beeb, just a-moseying up to and right past a blood-drenched, clever-waving raving lunatic?

"...should have gone to SpecSavers..."

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I wanted to visit England some day. I guess I won't beheading there any time soon.

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There are reports of passersby trying to protect the victim after the yahoo's set upon him. Anti islam rhetoric amping up big time in Britain.

One woman engaged one of them for several minutes.

A Girl Guides mum, she kept him from doing more...

And in unrelated news; http://t.co/iAv6kzoPPj

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I wanted to visit England some day. I guess I won't beheading there any time soon.

 

 

Klassic!....

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There are reports of passersby trying to protect the victim after the yahoo's set upon him. Anti islam rhetoric amping up big time in Britain.

One woman engaged one of them for several minutes.

A Girl Guides mum, she kept him from doing more...

And in unrelated news; http://t.co/iAv6kzoPPj

 

If the anti islam rhetoric is amping up does that mean people are losing their Islamophobia and starting to question Islam?

 

As for unrelated news.....

 

Over 500 UK imams recently protested about gay marriage, does anyone believe these same imams will start protesting about Islamic terror anytime soon, could the bearded fuckwits who preach Islam be in denial about Islamic terror like the church is in denial about pedophilia?

 

The first time over 500 UK imams join forces to protest about something it is gay marriage of all things.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10066730/More-than-500-imams-in-landmark-gay-marriage-protest.html

 

They cure homosexuality with beheading in the homeland of Islam, hypocrite muslims distance themselves from the Saudis yet they face Mecca in Saudi Arabia when they pray, ask them about which country they go to for Hajj which is one of the 5 pillars of Islam and see the hypocrisy.

 

Iran hangs homosexuals,Ahmanutjob did say there are no poofters in Iran.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

 

In the UK the threat was still present and dangerous. Do you think people would have run up to help in Boston if those Chechen brothers were still standing there with more weapons?

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

Don't know what news you have been watching - but you couldn't be more wrong.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

Don't know what news you have been watching - but you couldn't be more wrong.
Please point out where he was wrong.

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Any reports of Islamic leadership publicly condemning this horrific murder ?

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I heard six shots. First guy went down with two. The second was taken down by four.

 

First guy's legs were moving, they didn't kill him. Second guy couldn't see.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

Don't know what news you have been watching - but you couldn't be more wrong.

 

Love the avatar, I don't think most people understood what was happening in front of them. When pscyho boy was going off in front of a camera, the woman walked by as if nothing was happening.

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If they are devout muslims, under Sharia Law aren't they required to be executed? There may also be a provision under Sharia Law to pay 'blood money" to avoid execution if the relatives of the victim agree to it.

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

In a country where guns are banned crooks wield meat clevers and kill people on camera and admit what they are doing to a group of people standing idly by watching them murder someone.

 

There are no words to describe how wrong what they did was. But is Britain filled with such wimps that the dozens of people didn't tackle him to the ground before the cops showed up? The cops ended up shooting him, but damn it. Why didn't 5 or 6 of the people with cell phones and cameras do something to stop the attack, or at least the attacker?

 

Take a look at the boston marathon bombing. do you know what I see? I see dozens of people who were only shocked by the explosions run into them trying to help people. That rave/stupid move of rushing head first in to help someone else is the real reason why america is great and so f'ed up all at the same time.

Don't know what news you have been watching - but you couldn't be more wrong.
Please point out where he was wrong.

Look at the news you fool!

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The UK brought this on themselves. It's hard to imagine, in this day and age, a nation where anyone is allowed to buy and own meat cleavers without registering them, no background checks or anything.

 

Sheesh.

Don't worry, the Brits are on it... Pointless

 

3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg

It's a good thing he couldn't get his bloody mitts on a semi-automatic weapon. One soldier dead in a cleaver attack is bad enough, a Tuscon-style massacre would really have sucked a lot worse. Chalk one up for gun control.
Reports are they had a handgun as well. In spite of gun control.

The report of a gun is total shit, if they had one many more would have been killed with out a doubt.

Gun controls do work.

It appears your assessment is incorrect on the report of the gun. That's what happens when you put what you want to believe in front facts. In my mind jury is out on effectiveness of gun controls. Lotsa "what I want" data on both sides of that argument.

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I heard six shots. First guy went down with two. The second was taken down by four.

 

First guy's legs were moving, they didn't kill him. Second guy couldn't see.

 

British cops are trained to incapacitate not kill. Both are still kicking but they'll have bad knees forever.

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If they are devout muslims, under Sharia Law aren't they required to be executed? There may also be a provision under Sharia Law to pay 'blood money" to avoid execution if the relatives of the victim agree to it.

 

Only parts of the UK operate under discriminatory sharia law, the one law for all campaign wants to remove these sharia courts, read more here-http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/about/

 

Executed for what? see post 9 does Allah approve of whacking the nonbelivers?

 

The Quran says Islam has been perfected, it is clear and without doubt, sura 2/2 is a bit of a laugh because the book mentioned in that verse did not exist, it was made into a book when the Caliph Uthman decided to do it after all the hafiz (those who memorised the Quran) were getting killed in battles (gods will..lol), the Quran was made into a book about 23 years after Mohammad (Pbuh- pedophile bastard unworthy human) died.

The Quran says Islam is perfect (sura 5/3),clear and without doubt so why do muslims never agree on anything from the niqab to Islamic terror?

http://www.quran.com/2/2

 

If he was considered a dhimmi paying the jizya (protection money) then there could be a case for blood money, he was a soldier from a country at war with muslims so there is no blood money in this case.

 

Blood money allows a better form of justice for the rich they can buy their way out of trouble, if you are poor and cannot afford diyya then it is an eye for an eye.

 

The blood money in Mohammad's day was 100 camels for a muslim killing another muslim.

http://www.sunnah.com/urn/2053190

 

I reckon the moderate muslims (allah calls them hypocrites) take 5/32 out of context more than any other verse, they leave out the first bit because that verse only applies to the jews,muslims killing muslims in Syria and fuck all is said about this, if a jew kills a Palestinian like the Al Durrah hoax that could start an intifada.

The 600 page Qadri fatwa that was supposed to outlaw Islamic terror had Qadri leaving out "We decreed upon the children of Israel" with 5/32 on page 6, i didnt bother with the rest of it.

http://www.quran.com/5/32

So why do muslims always leave out "We decreed upon the children of Israel" when citing that verse, religious people are bullshit artists.

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Fuck off Godfrey, your bigotry is becoming as blurred as theirs.

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Fuck off Godfrey, your bigotry is becoming as blurred as theirs.

 

Do you ever call critics of christianity anti christian bigots or christianophobes or even perhaps a racist christianophobic bigot, do you call critics of any religion other than Islam bigots?

 

Why is it only critics of Islam that get called bigots?

 

Allah does call those who think they can pick and choose what parts of Islam they believe in hypocrites, the Quran forbids picking and choosing that is what separates Islam from the other delusional beliefs.

http://www.quran.com/2/85

 

Allah has the Quran written on stone tablets, i have a tablet with a search function it is easier to manage than stone tablets, here are the verses by Allah that mention the hypocrites.

http://www.quran.com/search?q=hypocrite

 

Here is the good sheik who studied under the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia giving the good oil on Jihad against the hypocrites which might explain why the hypocrites cannot control the fundamentalists.

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/42534/hypocrite

 

It is cheaper and easier to call bullshit on Islam than going to war with devout muslims,probably more humane too if you think about that for a nanosecond, i have never called for violence against muslims i have always said this battle between ideologies will be won with words not weapons.

 

Why do you put respect for ancient beliefs before respect for humanity?

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What? There's also a ban on pressure cookers, gasoline, fertilizer and automobiles in Englandia?....

 

No, but there is a ban on trash cans in public.

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A good article by Tarek Fatah who is a muslim in a wheelchair about Islamic terror.

 

While ordinary Britons and non muslims around the world are bewildered by these never ending acts of terrorism, the response of the leaders of the Islamic community is the tired old cliche-Islam is a religion of peace and jihad is simply an inner struggle.

 

The fact these terrorists are motivated by one powerful belief- the doctrine of armed jihad against the kuffar (non muslims) -is disingenuously denied by Islamic clerics and leaders.

 

Yesterday, instead of calling on muslims to shelve the doctrine of armed Jihad,predictably the Muslim council of Britain (MCB) issued a quick press release claiming the barbaric attack has no basis in Islam.

 

Not true,MCB. As a muslim ,i can say without fear, the latest terror attack has a basis in Islam and its time for us muslims to dig our heads out of the sand.

 

This was an opportunity for the muslim leadership to confess they have failed and that the time has come to admit the Jihadis cannot be fought without fighting the doctrine of Jihad.

 

Read more here-http://www.themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/columnist-tarek-fatah-u-k-beheading-shows-its-time-to-fight-the-doctrine-of-jihad/

 

 

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A good article by Tarek Fatah who is a muslim in a wheelchair about Islamic terror.

 

Yesterday, instead of calling on muslims to shelve the doctrine of armed Jihad,predictably the Muslim council of Britain (MCB) issued a quick press release claiming the barbaric attack has no basis in Islam.

 

 

I read somewhere that the MCB have stated there is no longer any room for Islamic terrorists in their mosques.

 

But there are, apparently, waiting lists.

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A good article by Tarek Fatah who is a muslim in a wheelchair about Islamic terror.

 

Yesterday, instead of calling on muslims to shelve the doctrine of armed Jihad,predictably the Muslim council of Britain (MCB) issued a quick press release claiming the barbaric attack has no basis in Islam.

 

 

I read somewhere that the MCB have stated there is no longer any room for Islamic terrorists in their mosques.

 

But there are, apparently, waiting lists.

 

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A good article by Tarek Fatah who is a muslim in a wheelchair about Islamic terror.

 

 

While ordinary Britons and non muslims around the world are bewildered by these never ending acts of terrorism, the response of the leaders of the Islamic community is the tired old cliche-Islam is a religion of peace and jihad is simply an inner struggle.

 

The fact these terrorists are motivated by one powerful belief- the doctrine of armed jihad against the kuffar (non muslims) -is disingenuously denied by Islamic clerics and leaders.

 

Yesterday, instead of calling on muslims to shelve the doctrine of armed Jihad,predictably the Muslim council of Britain (MCB) issued a quick press release claiming the barbaric attack has no basis in Islam.

 

Not true,MCB. As a muslim ,i can say without fear, the latest terror attack has a basis in Islam and its time for us muslims to dig our heads out of the sand.

 

This was an opportunity for the muslim leadership to confess they have failed and that the time has come to admit the Jihadis cannot be fought without fighting the doctrine of Jihad.

 

Read more here-http://www.themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/columnist-tarek-fatah-u-k-beheading-shows-its-time-to-fight-the-doctrine-of-jihad/

A good article, thanks.

You don't seem to post many links to the moderate side of the faith, though to be fair there haven't been that many out cries from within (according to the western press)

 

Look out for white fascist indoctrination figures going up soon.

 

 

 

What? There's also a ban on pressure cookers, gasoline, fertilizer and automobiles in Englandia?....

No, but there is a ban on trash cans in public.

Blame the Irish.

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