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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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PA posters worth reading vs those who are not

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Lets name names, I would like to thank;

 

LenP

Cruising Loser

Occums razor

Regatta Dog

dog

Sol, when he is not posting useless imagines etc

Ben

Mark

Jbsf

Kmmcabe

Mikewolf-sometimes

Rick-sometimes

Feel free to add to list

MoeAlfa...Probably my all time favorite...where did he go?
As a practitioner of medicine, he probably got tired of doing a full scrub after getting near this rather diseased environment. While there are a good few more as well, I'd offer up Moe as a pretty decent and reasonable-sounding chap.

 

AGITC is similarly among those who can offer a point of view that is polite and respectful, even under fire. Some of us may try, and often fail (self incl.) but these guys manage to respect their fellow men & women as valuable team members, whatever corner they sit in.

 

BG? Troll extraordinaire, though in his heart I'm sure he means well. I do wish he'd lay off the "retarded" name-calling; it's becoming as unacceptable as "nigger" has very rightly become. Plenty of other pejoratives exist other than "retarded" which don't disparage others not involved in the conversation. The cognitively-disadvantaged did not ask to be born that way. This term needs to be erased from the lexicon.

 

Mark K? Other that the log-sized chip on his shoulder, probably an OK person.

 

Spatial Ed? Shuts down conversations not with logic & facts, but with useless red herrings and with quintessential disingenuousness, the counter to which is best offered in the form of ignoring lest he be led to further masturbation as he watches others' reactions to him. Pity, though, as I normally have all kinds of respect for pilots. I bet that, in person, he's one hell of a good guy. Very possibly the same for Jocal though a lot gets hidden by the keyboard. I can respect his direction even if we don't see eye to eye on his methods.

 

Speaking of pilots, Kent Island Sailor seems pretty much on the level. And Sol - who could not appreciate a writer who doesn't mind calling people out on stuff that misrepresents an informed view (whether he supports the states view or not)? Someone around here needs to have a brain.

 

Tom Ray - gotta love the writing style: I could see sitting around his pond, cleaning .22's and bullshitting the afternoon away.

 

Frenchie - has a way of dealing straight up, seems highly honorable. Same for McKabe, JSBF, & others In posession of well-calibrated Bullshitometers & with whom I may or may not agree on every single solitary point, though we still have plenty in common. That's how our country, even our planet, ought to get along.

 

Mike Wolf - our own, personal Sheldon (without the OCD necessarily)... lots of well-rounded experiences for a guy (i take for being) under 45-ish. May go off the deep end occasionally, though but for the grace of electrons, silicon, and plastic injection molding, go I.

 

LenP - without question, a stand-up guy who doesn't take sides based upon a letter after his name, or behind that of a given politician. Being one of only two SA members I've (knowingly) met up with, i can safely say I'd trust my kids/grandkids to him or his young family. Like his views or not, you can believe that his posts are true to his personality, reputation, and personal honor. What you see is what you get, which is all i have a right to ask of any man.

 

Ease the Sheets - annoys me a little in the gun threads, though perhaps that's my weakness and not his. One has to appreciate another's desire to make the world a better place, even if (as with some of the aforementioned) one doesn't necessarily see eye to eye with the methods. Seems like a damned fine bloke, down deep.

 

Mainsheetsister- man, she sounds like a hoot! I'm honored that she took the time and stayed with this outfit, after joining mainly to relay the affairs of her beloved sister, MSG (whom i never knee or corresponded with). Sounds like the sort of gal who, with husband or whomever, would make for a great day of flintlock shootin', rib-eatin', and mash drinkin' (or whatever).

 

There are many of you out there whom I can't thank personally (or pick on in-duh-vidually) though it is hopes we can all respect one another alike, in the end.

 

Boy, after being omitted from that codex do I feel extra un-loved.

 

Wow.... it is an honor just to be nominated. (A hoot?...if you only knew...)

 

And, don't worry BJ, you get plenty of loving happy thoughts from me.

 

You were one of six SAers who actually showed up during my sister's final days....Bowgirl and kmccabe, elle, Sol Rosenberg, Rockhead (and his children), and You.

 

It meant the world to her, and still means way more than a helluva lot to me.

 

I won't ever forget it.

 

Ever.

;) see you soon!!!

 

 

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i miss our freedom. j/k....

as eva dent.

 

so...other than this gem of a thread...what did i miss over the weekend?

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

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My apologies for an afternoon of troll feeding.

 

The troll certainly regurgitated a large amount of troll drivel.

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After a weekend of sailing from SF to Monterey in big breeze, chilling with the wife and kids in Monterey and then BBQing in thanks of all that is 'merica, I come to this mutual admiration society circle jerk.

 

I'm happy to read all opinions - only Happy is on ignore (and s/he knows why) and VWAP cause I usually access this site during working hours.

 

Cheers everyone, and for the 'mericans, happy memorial day.

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

 

Well, actually, nobody on this planet ever really chooses each other. I mean, it's all a question of quantum physics, molecular attraction, and timing. Why, there are laws we don't understand that bring us together and tear us apart. Uh, it's like pheromones. You get three ants together, they can't do dick. You get 300 million of them, they can build a cathedral.

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You get three ants together, they can't do dick. You get 300 million of them, they can build a cathedral.

You get three each hundred Democrats and Republicans together they can't do dick.

 

Proof?? No. but politicians do seem dumber than ants

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Wow this is a troubling story!

whom how much if anything did you steal from the laser class association?

 

gator, you are starting to sound like an Israeli prosecutor talking to a resident of gaza.

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

 

Well, actually, nobody on this planet ever really chooses each other. I mean, it's all a question of quantum physics, molecular attraction, and timing. Why, there are laws we don't understand that bring us together and tear us apart. Uh, it's like pheromones. You get three ants together, they can't do dick. You get 300 million of them, they can build a cathedral.

 

Pheromones? Isn't that what stinkbugs use to find their friends?

 

 

hey now.....wait just a minute!...

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;) see you soon!!!

 

Can't wait! Less than two weeks!

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

 

Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern.

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

 

Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern.

 

I would have thought that it would have been Millie AND Jimmy versus OR. Perhaps the pre-nup requires designated gifts to prepare for dissolution.

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There are lots of good ones i missed please add. Moe is fantastic and always advances conversation. He and cruising loser are probably the most thoughtful left/right guys on here

Very kind of you to say. Thank you, although my appearances here are rare these days. Moe and I are getting ready to do the Marion-Bermuda race together, on my boat.

 

Pics and a trip report would be most enjoyable, if not too much trouble to capture!

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Well, Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live... is it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. We're dealing with a lot of shit.

 

Okay, well, uh... candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she's registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern.

 

A set of good knives. Useful when things are going well, and may come in handy if things are not so good.

 

Remember Lorena Bobbitt?

 

Whatever happened to her?

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She doing well as a private citizen her douchebag ex marine ex husband? Not so much

 

You are just jealous that his dick is still bigger than yours.

 

Hey, MSS! How you doin?

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Hey, MSS! How you doin?

 

I'm adequate...sometimes better...

 

Looking forward to a fun summer...

 

In two weeks, I'm flying to New Orleans then to Minneapolis from there to visit my favorite Anarchists in both places.

 

In July, for our 25th anniversary, The Husband and I are driving to Colorado air-mattress-in-the-minivan-hippie-style to see the Jerry Garcia Symphonic Celebration with Warren Haynes and the Colorado Symphony Orchestra at Red Rocks.

 

In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors, and then we'll be going to my second annual family reunion in upstate New York, started last summer by my 26 cousins and I in honor of Catherine, who would have wanted us to get together to drink heavily, play cards, and eat a roasted swine in her memory.

 

How are you, RD?

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Damn, your people are a hoot! Have fun discharging Springfields & devouring swine! And have something to "warsh" it down with...

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

 

 

'Til they finally get it right?....

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

 

 

'Til they finally get it right?....

 

Lee's never going to win it...

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

 

 

'Til they finally get it right?....

 

Lee's never going to win it...

 

I dunno - didja ever read a fictional account called "Guns of the South"? :-)

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I don't think that there is a single poster here that I wouldn't enjoy a beer with. I don't want to start naming names primarily because I would leave many out. For starters, those who run their own business, those who are/were military and those in education have proven without doubt the qualities I admire. (even you far left types) There is a great deal of personal accomplishment here. I respect that as the supreme joy of this country.

 

There is from time to time pure poetry found in these posts. Words that make you say "huh? or wow!" There is great humor and wonderful stress relief. When dealing with rooms full of 20 something, ambitious, challenging in more ways that most would imagine students on perpetual overload it is nice to have a place to unwind. To trump the stress relief, I often find tidbits that are classroom worthy.

 

I often wish that some of you could experience the wonderful world I live in. You seem bitter beyond belief and lack certain freedoms, even if self denied, that you truly deserve. Over my time here I have moved from a 240 acre spread four miles from anyone to small town, downtown historical district. I have lived in urban places and in Europe. It is easy for me to see why the left and the right feel the way they do. I find it distasteful that I had to become licensed in order to to my own electrical work on my house, and ask for permission to do any work at all. However, I truly respect the thought of having electricians licensed and the drive to keep the historical district historical. While the libertarian in me says bureaucracy is BS, the very same keeps my neighborhood clean, safe and pleasant. I try to remain open to the viewpoints of those from the wide array of places from which we hail. Even you Aussies.

 

There are those here who have excellent educations formal or not, that I count among the wise. Those who have been kicked around a bit and are on top despite challenges. Those who would know how to enjoy a hunk of meat on a grill and a cold beer. Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

 

I have been and will be for the duration of the Summer working on re-vamping our industrial programs. The current programs are a bit dated and my students deserve the very best I can give them. I will also be, now that I have a license to do so, working on my house - major work. So I won't be around much this Summer, but my wife can assure you all that it won't be because I don't enjoy reading all of your words. Anytime I bust out laughing she simply assumes that I am on SA.

 

Ya'll have fun, and thanks, one and all.

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Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

 

Haha, I'm definitely in the "put up the chute" crowd. In fact, one of my crew this weekend accused me of driving the boat like Ricky Bobby. When asked why Ricky Bobby, he said because his tag line was: "I just wanna go fast!"

 

Ok fine, so I have a tendency to heat the boat up on the run to try to get up on a plane even if I'm going away from the mark. So sue me ;)

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PLC, you have a good summer.

 

BTW, I'm in the put up the chute crowd and that ain't an asym.

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Definitely fly the chute. If it's too much wind, God will take it down for you.

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As proven last weekend on the sail to Monterey, god takes it down at about 32 knots true. Well, the 3/4 oz anyway, we put up the 2oz as a replacement and got to keep that one up. Having a 52' boat doing 22 knots was good fun.

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Definitely fly the chute. If it's too much wind, God will take it down for you.

 

That's nice of him, but he won't buy me a new one afterwards.

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Definitely fly the chute. If it's too much wind, God will take it down for you.

 

That's nice of him, but he won't buy me a new one afterwards.

 

Sheesh, you don't even believe in the guy and want him to do everything for you. :D

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This list is bullshit. I'm quite certain that none of our posts in PA are worth reading. Seriously!

 

None of us are here because we really think we're going to change the world by ranting about politics on a sailing forum (except maybe Happy Jack and Chuck D, those two just aren't right in the head). We're here because we're bored and it's not really socially acceptable to throw rocks at each other.

 

 

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Definitely fly the chute. If it's too much wind, God will take it down for you.

 

That's nice of him, but he won't buy me a new one afterwards.

 

He's an asshole like that.....

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Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

Haha, I'm definitely in the "put up the chute" crowd. In fact, one of my crew this weekend accused me of driving the boat like Ricky Bobby. When asked why Ricky Bobby, he said because his tag line was: "I just wanna go fast!"

 

Ok fine, so I have a tendency to heat the boat up on the run to try to get up on a plane even if I'm going away from the mark. So sue me ;)

I am addicted to speed. Good thing I stay away from bikes. I tend to fly more sail than a sane man would.

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PLC, you have a good summer.

 

BTW, I'm in the put up the chute crowd and that ain't an asym.

Thanks, you too. I'll be around a bit, but I have mucho work on my short list. Re-plumbing, new electrical, two bathrooms.

 

NCCER Master training, new I&E, brand new Mechanical program. Different academic track. We have to hire two instructors along the way.

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Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

Haha, I'm definitely in the "put up the chute" crowd. In fact, one of my crew this weekend accused me of driving the boat like Ricky Bobby. When asked why Ricky Bobby, he said because his tag line was: "I just wanna go fast!"

 

Ok fine, so I have a tendency to heat the boat up on the run to try to get up on a plane even if I'm going away from the mark. So sue me ;)

I am addicted to speed. Good thing I stay away from bikes. I tend to fly more sail than a sane man would.

 

but - Bikes are the cheapest speed-fix you can get, unless you like trying to make old John Deere model A engined HDs go quickly!

:)

You oughta get up to the Chesapeake for the Log Canoe races - it's not unusual to see those guys drive their boats underwater w/6 guys hangin' out on the board!

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I must say the Jeff is probably the most evolved of the righties. He has gone from my way or the highway to an open mind on a number of issues. Mind is like a parachute. But when it comes to his gun addiction, he won't even consider a counter argument and resorts to calling people cunts. That's what I love about him.

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Jeff on guns: Twats that you say? I cunt hear you.

Jeff on anything else:

 

Brainlobes.GIF

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Jeff on guns: Twats that you say? I cunt hear you.

Jeff on anything else:

 

Brainlobes.GIF

 

Really? I'm interested in what you think my position on guns actually is. You might want to do some reading first before you answer that so you don't look stoopid.

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Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

Haha, I'm definitely in the "put up the chute" crowd. In fact, one of my crew this weekend accused me of driving the boat like Ricky Bobby. When asked why Ricky Bobby, he said because his tag line was: "I just wanna go fast!"

 

Ok fine, so I have a tendency to heat the boat up on the run to try to get up on a plane even if I'm going away from the mark. So sue me ;)

I am addicted to speed. Good thing I stay away from bikes. I tend to fly more sail than a sane man would.

 

but - Bikes are the cheapest speed-fix you can get, unless you like trying to make old John Deere model A engined HDs go quickly!

:)

You oughta get up to the Chesapeake for the Log Canoe races - it's not unusual to see those guys drive their boats underwater w/6 guys hangin' out on the board!

The last bike I rode, rode me. A sandy spot in a curve in a dip on a mountain road is no place to test the traction of a street bike. I'm okay on four wheels. :o The Log Canoe's sound like fun. I love dinghies. I have a Capri Cyclone that serves to keep my ducking skills in good order. I really wish there was a decent climbing area close by. I miss climbing.

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Have always wanted to ride a motorcycle.

 

Someday....

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Speed is relative. Reaching on a Laser in 20+ knots is much slower than riding in the middle seat on an airplane between two fatties.

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Those who could reduce sail in a thirty knot blow and those who probably would try to fly a chute in the same conditions.

Haha, I'm definitely in the "put up the chute" crowd. In fact, one of my crew this weekend accused me of driving the boat like Ricky Bobby. When asked why Ricky Bobby, he said because his tag line was: "I just wanna go fast!"

 

Ok fine, so I have a tendency to heat the boat up on the run to try to get up on a plane even if I'm going away from the mark. So sue me ;)

I am addicted to speed. Good thing I stay away from bikes. I tend to fly more sail than a sane man would.

 

but - Bikes are the cheapest speed-fix you can get, unless you like trying to make old John Deere model A engined HDs go quickly!

:)

You oughta get up to the Chesapeake for the Log Canoe races - it's not unusual to see those guys drive their boats underwater w/6 guys hangin' out on the board!

The last bike I rode, rode me. A sandy spot in a curve in a dip on a mountain road is no place to test the traction of a street bike. I'm okay on four wheels. :o The Log Canoe's sound like fun. I love dinghies. I have a Capri Cyclone that serves to keep my ducking skills in good order. I really wish there was a decent climbing area close by. I miss climbing.

 

I played around with dirt bikes for a bit. Then I decided that I was going to kill myself if I kept it up. Every time I rode one I felt all sense of restraint slipping away.

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

 

 

'Til they finally get it right?....

 

Lee's never going to win it...

 

Nope, but some of the Confederate re-enactors still think they can win this war....scary fuckers, some of them....

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Nope, but some of the Confederate re-enactors still think they can win this war....scary fuckers, some of them....

 

And Newt Gingrich wrote such a book for them!

 

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The Battle of Gettysburg has become the great "what if" of American history. Gettysburg unfolds an alternate path and creates for General Robert E. Lee the victory he might have won. Full of dramatic battle scenes, military strategy, and captivating period details, Gettysburg stands as a remarkable entry in the pantheon of Civil War literature and as a vivid novel of the realities of war.

 

The year is 1863, and General Robert E. Lee and his Army of Northern Virginia are poised to attack the North and claim the victory that could end the brutal conflict. Launching his men into a vast sweeping operation, General Lee, acting as he did at Chancellorsville, Second Manassas, and Antietam, displays the audacity of old. He knows he has but one more good chance to gain ultimate victory. Now Lee's lieutenants and the men in the ranks, imbued with this renewed spirit of the offensive, embark on the Gettysburg Campaign that many dream "should have been"...

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

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Nope, but some of the Confederate re-enactors still think they can win this war....scary fuckers, some of them....

 

And Newt Gingrich wrote a book for them!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Definitely fly the chute. If it's too much wind, God will take it down for you.

 

That's nice of him, but he won't buy me a new one afterwards.

 

He's an asshole like that.....

 

 

God help us......

 

oh, wait...never mind!

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Interesting departure from the thread, I saw an article on the Internet over the weekend that wondered openly why we have at least 10 military installations named for Confederate soldiers. There was one in Tennessee now closed, that honored Nathan Bedford Forrest, prominent slave trader, Southern General and founder of the Ku Klux Klan.

A reasonable person can wonder why we did this, certainly honoring soldiers who brought pride, sacrifice and honor, should lead the list.

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

AMEN!

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

Maybe we should move on to crowning the homecoming king and queen?

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Have always wanted to ride a motorcycle.

 

Someday....

I'll give you a ride on my crotchrocket, Honda Vfr 800. It's a gentleman's rocket.

Ass, grass or gas, but no free ride.

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IIrc, if the confederates had gotten past Chamberlain they would have run into the bulk of the Union reserves. It wasn't even close folks, when Custer routed J.E.B. Stewart it was game over.

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

Maybe we should move on to crowning the homecoming king and queen?

 

I'd appreciate if you didn't move at all. The bells in your hat are getting annoying.

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

Maybe we should move on to crowning the homecoming king and queen?

I'd appreciate if you didn't move at all. The bells in your hat are getting annoying.

Dude.,....sometimes you are funny beyond words. I'm keeping that one and not even giving you credit. Seriously.

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IIrc, if the confederates had gotten past Chamberlain they would have run into the bulk of the Union reserves. It wasn't even close folks, when Custer routed J.E.B. Stewart it was game over.

Of course, if Lee could have kept control of Stuart and the screen had prevented Chamberlain from getting to the hill.....

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

Maybe we should move on to crowning the homecoming king and queen?

I'd appreciate if you didn't move at all. The bells in your hat are getting annoying.

Dude.,....sometimes you are funny beyond words. I'm keeping that one and not even giving you credit. Seriously.

 

Yea, he's a real hoot sometimes. He definitely belongs on that list. I'm sure he's on many, many lists for that matter.

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IIrc, if the confederates had gotten past Chamberlain they would have run into the bulk of the Union reserves. It wasn't even close folks, when Custer routed J.E.B. Stewart it was game over.

Of course, if Lee could have kept control of Stuart and the screen had prevented Chamberlain from getting to the hill.....

Too many ifs. The south started the war and they had one cannon factory and 400(?) miles of RR? PLZ! Besides, I've heard it said Lee never had a single strategic victory. Tactical brilliance not withstanding, the war was lost as soon as the first shot was fired. What a horrible, terrible waste of life without ever the possibility of victory and a morally bankrupt cause.

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IIrc, if the confederates had gotten past Chamberlain they would have run into the bulk of the Union reserves. It wasn't even close folks, when Custer routed J.E.B. Stewart it was game over.

Of course, if Lee could have kept control of Stuart and the screen had prevented Chamberlain from getting to the hill.....
Too many ifs. The south started the war and they had one cannon factory and 400(?) miles of RR? PLZ! Besides, I've heard it said Lee never had a single strategic victory. Tactical brilliance not withstanding, the war was lost as soon as the first shot was fired. What a horrible, terrible waste of life without ever the possibility of victory and a morally bankrupt cause.

If Washington, Jefferson,Hamilton,et al. had your attitude we would still be a colony to this day.

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Let's get this show on the road....

 

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Jeff on guns: Twats that you say? I cunt hear you.

Jeff on anything else:

 

Brainlobes.GIF

 

Really? I'm interested in what you think my position on guns actually is. You might want to do some reading first before you answer that so you don't look stoopid.

i thought your position on rights was much stronger than your position on guns. its not you fault that 200+ years ago someone joined them at the hip.

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In between those trips, my son and I are going to be fighting the Battle of Gettysburg for the 150th time with about 11,000 other re-enactors

 

Wow, you and your son have done the BoG re-enactment 149 times already? How often do they do that? ;)

 

 

'Til they finally get it right?....

 

Lee's never going to win it...

 

Nope, but some of the Confederate re-enactors still think they can win this war....scary fuckers, some of them....

history has never been kind to those living in the past............

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Can we get back to the original topic here, and express some admiration for those posters who made "the list"?

 

Shaddup and go get me a cocktail, peon.

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Let's get this show on the road....

 

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Not only do you owe me a new keyboard and monitor..... but I'm going to send you the medical bill for the cracked rib. FUCKER! :lol: :lol:

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Not only do you owe me a new keyboard and monitor..... but I'm going to send you the medical bill for the cracked rib. FUCKER! :lol: :lol:

 

Thank you, sir. I put some effort into that one.

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Certainly quoting myself is tacky but it is always less tacky than quoting any of the morons who share this band waste.

I only am doing so to remind each of you,

Oh hell! Just read the last sentence below.

 

 

Worth reading is a barely a compliment yet overstates the value of the entire Political Anarchy section of these forums.

PA is a valueless time sucking morass composed by the most pathetic of the SA members.

 

With that caveat to my comments clearly established, I read the PA section only when I have found nothing anywhere else on the forums but refuse to go back to bring productive or sleeping.

To that end I either browse this boring section to induce the needed sleep.

Or

I read these forums seeking out clever retorts to the unsupported claims of fools, have myself a giggle, and sometimes even try my own hand at being an offensive ass.

 

Benwynn consistently produces relatively cutting sarcasm . He ought to be on both lists

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Many of us strive to reach the biting wit of ben, but alas only benwynns.

Oscar Wilde once said that "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence,"

 

i notice he never mentioned puns........

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Have you ever heard of the sarchasm?

 

It is the gap between my sarcasm and your understanding of it.

 

 

 

And I went to school to be a wit, but only got halfway through.

 

 

 

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normally when i have sex, i get a laugh. i think someone here has already come up with that noun.

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Have you ever heard of the sarchasm?

 

It is the gap between my sarcasm and your understanding of it.

 

 

 

And I went to school to be a wit, but only got halfway through.

 

I don't sail slow and I don't sail fast; I sail half-fast!! ; - )

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In that spirit I remember a saying I heard in the military:

 

"There are old fighter pilots and there are bold fighter pilots, but there are no old bold fighter pilots."

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may God protect them all.

Or a few good A&Ps. I leave god to sort out the big stuff, like who gets the good mechanic and who gets the washout.

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In that spirit I remember a saying I heard in the military:

 

"There are old fighter pilots and there are bold fighter pilots, but there are no old bold fighter pilots."

 

In the software business it was "You can have it good, fast, or cheap - pick two."

 

Of course that applies to almost any custom, built to order product.

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Yeah BJ, I go through that daily, except it's good,cheap or fast. Pick 2.

I had a really good experience with the Northwest School of Boat Building. They got it. Clients rarely do.

 

Hard customers. Wonderful to work with. That's why they're in my sig now.

 

They got their site cheap and good. The best combo.

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Yeah BJ, I go through that daily, except it's good,cheap or fast. Pick 2.

I had a really good experience with the Northwest School of Boat Building. They got it. Clients rarely do.

 

Hard customers. Wonderful to work with. That's why they're in my sig now.

 

They got their site cheap and good. The best combo.

 

 

You did notice this little dingy project they've got going?.....

 

 

 

 

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This 62-foot strip-planked day sailor was designed by the renowned designer Robert Perry for a client here in the Pacific Northwest. www.perryboat.com/

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Bob Perry has been very pleased with the School’s progress on the boat, and has remarked more than once that he feels we are doing a superlative job on the construction.

The boat was built on molds cut by Turn Point Design in Port Townsend.turnpointdesign.com/

The hull is western red cedar sheathed in 24-ounce fiberglass. WEST System products have been used throughout the project. www.westsystem.com/ss/

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Drool.

 

 

Sawdust orgasms....

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Drool.

 

 

Sawdust orgasms....

 

that sounds painful....or uncomfortable at least...

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I don't sail slow and I don't sail fast; I sail half-fast!! ; - )

 

Never begin vast project, with half-vast planning.

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Drool.

 

Sawdust orgasms....

that sounds painful....or uncomfortable at least...

 

Wood on wood tends to creak a bit. It can even produce smoke if forced hard & fast; some like to finish the more involved productions in oil and then wax it afterwards.

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Drool.

 

Sawdust orgasms....

that sounds painful....or uncomfortable at least...

 

Wood on wood tends to creak a bit. It can even produce smoke if forced hard & fast; some like to finish the more involved productions in oil and then wax it afterwards.

 

 

I've always preferred linseed oil for my wood massage media.....

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wowe, what a greate theade!! Its licke a mini-searese.

it's called a soap opera, my friend.

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Drool.

 

Sawdust orgasms....

that sounds painful....or uncomfortable at least...

 

Wood on wood tends to creak a bit. It can even produce smoke if forced hard & fast; some like to finish the more involved productions in oil and then wax it afterwards.

friction....which can be good or bad...depending on the circumstance.

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Life is a search for a suitable source of friction.

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wowe, what a greate theade!! Its licke a mini-searese.

it's called a soap opera, my friend.

 

all it needs is a cliff-hanger every now and then...

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Yeah BJ, I go through that daily, except it's good,cheap or fast. Pick 2.

I had a really good experience with the Northwest School of Boat Building. They got it. Clients rarely do.

 

Hard customers. Wonderful to work with. That's why they're in my sig now.

 

They got their site cheap and good. The best combo.

 

A good iterative approach will get you all three. The first release, and each subsequent release, comes out fast. Features in each release are kept to a minimum, thus reducing bugs and quality control issues. Less time chasing bugs, smaller teams, and quick release cycles give you the minimal cost for the end result you arrive at. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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wowe, what a greate theade!! Its licke a mini-searese.

it's called a soap opera, my friend.

 

all it needs is a cliff-hanger every now and then...

 

Wouldn't HJ disappearing on his world solitude cruise qualify? All sorts of speculation on which sock puppet he might have his hand up. The Yoohoo thread of awareness to make sure his memory does not fade. Almost on par with who shot JR.

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Yeah BJ, I go through that daily, except it's good,cheap or fast. Pick 2.

I had a really good experience with the Northwest School of Boat Building. They got it. Clients rarely do.

 

Hard customers. Wonderful to work with. That's why they're in my sig now.

 

They got their site cheap and good. The best combo.

 

A good iterative approach will get you all three. The first release, and each subsequent release, comes out fast. Features in each release are kept to a minimum, thus reducing bugs and quality control issues. Less time chasing bugs, smaller teams, and quick release cycles give you the minimal cost for the end result you arrive at. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

 

Yeah, but how often does the client understand that?

 

They give you a deposit, they expect your programmers to be sitting down writing code that afternoon and the first Beta candidate should be the final product with everything they want in it. Never mind trying to explain to them that only about 15% of their payment is actually going to writing code, they seem to think that's the only thing they should have to pay for and if you are writing use cases or design documents you are wasting time and money!

 

Besides, there's usually some core chunk of functionality without which the system is completely useless and it's hard to talk clients off that ledge.

 

You are confusing reality with perception...

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Yeah BJ, I go through that daily, except it's good,cheap or fast. Pick 2.

I had a really good experience with the Northwest School of Boat Building. They got it. Clients rarely do.

 

Hard customers. Wonderful to work with. That's why they're in my sig now.

 

They got their site cheap and good. The best combo.

 

A good iterative approach will get you all three. The first release, and each subsequent release, comes out fast. Features in each release are kept to a minimum, thus reducing bugs and quality control issues. Less time chasing bugs, smaller teams, and quick release cycles give you the minimal cost for the end result you arrive at. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

 

Yeah, but how often does the client understand that?

 

They give you a deposit, they expect your programmers to be sitting down writing code that afternoon and the first Beta candidate should be the final product with everything they want in it. Never mind trying to explain to them that only about 15% of their payment is actually going to writing code, they seem to think that's the only thing they should have to pay for and if you are writing use cases or design documents you are wasting time and money!

 

Besides, there's usually some core chunk of functionality without which the system is completely useless and it's hard to talk clients off that ledge.

 

You are confusing reality with perception...

 

No doubt, difficult clients make for difficult projects. In those cases, you may end up with something expensive, late, and still bad. There are good clients too though, and if you can work with them on an iterative process, release early. release often, you can get something that works well, delivered quickly, and for remarkably little. SAILfeed went up like that. When I get around to it I am going to put together a case study for Drupal.org on that build.

 

It does not work for everything, I would not recommend an agile methodology for air traffic control systems, but it works well in tons of projects.

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A good iterative approach will get you all three. The first release, and each subsequent release, comes out fast. Features in each release are kept to a minimum, thus reducing bugs and quality control issues. Less time chasing bugs, smaller teams, and quick release cycles give you the minimal cost for the end result you arrive at. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

 

Yeah, but how often does the client understand that?

 

They give you a deposit, they expect your programmers to be sitting down writing code that afternoon and the first Beta candidate should be the final product with everything they want in it. Never mind trying to explain to them that only about 15% of their payment is actually going to writing code, they seem to think that's the only thing they should have to pay for and if you are writing use cases or design documents you are wasting time and money!

 

Besides, there's usually some core chunk of functionality without which the system is completely useless and it's hard to talk clients off that ledge.

 

You are confusing reality with perception...

 

No doubt, difficult clients make for difficult projects. In those cases, you may end up with something expensive, late, and still bad. There are good clients too though, and if you can work with them on an iterative process, release early. release often, you can get something that works well, delivered quickly, and for remarkably little. SAILfeed went up like that. When I get around to it I am going to put together a case study for Drupal.org on that build.

 

It does not work for everything, I would not recommend an agile methodology for air traffic control systems, but it works well in tons of projects.

 

True, I had some clients that were smarter about that sort of thing. But they were also willing to pay for it to happen, so the "cheap" option didn't really apply though you could make a strong argument for "value".

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