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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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Can't we all get along...

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This is a call for calm. There seems to be a constant stream of trolling and arguing between members here. Those not willing to argue or take the bait are drowned out. Those with design or racing experience simply don't waste their time.

 

I have been lurking on this forum for some time as I am an Americas cup enthusiast , and the likes of JNavas post exceptional content. However, I have been disappointed by the interaction between members here.

 

Rather than intelligent discussion and debate, many of the threads devolve into heckling and trolling. The GD vs AR debate has become a religious dead horse that continues to be flogged.

 

Can't we be civil? Can't we enjoy the drama for what it is, rather than attacking each other or posturing?

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are you trying to sell something? :)

This is a call for calm. There seems to be a constant stream of trolling and arguing between members here. Those not willing to argue or take the bait are drowned out. Those with design or racing experience simply don't waste their time.

 

I have been lurking on this forum for some time as I am an Americas cup enthusiast , and the likes of JNavas post exceptional content. However, I have been disappointed by the interaction between members here.

 

Rather than intelligent discussion and debate, many of the threads devolve into heckling and trolling. The GD vs AR debate has become a religious dead horse that continues to be flogged.

 

Can't we be civil? Can't we enjoy the drama for what it is, rather than attacking each other or posturing?

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Those with design or racing experience simply don't waste their time.

Not altogether true.

 

There is a tradition here for 1st time posters and if you've been lurking as you say, you know what it is. We are waiting.

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Can't we be civil?

 

Where's the fun in that?!?!?

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We should all get a lawn!

Who's turn is it to cut it?

 

Anyone got Larry's number? Maybe we can get him to pay for a service... :rolleyes:

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Anyone got Larry's number? Maybe we can get him to pay for a service... :rolleyes:

 

Julian Guthrie has Larry's number.

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We should all get a lawn!

Who's turn is it to cut it?

 

Is it greener on the other side?

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Unfortunately there are forum members who hate GD and will attempt to wrangle some way of discrediting him from anything he says regardless of the actual facts to hand.

The exact same goes for some members views on Artemis Racing.

 

Never the twain shall meet.

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The amount of arguing on this forum is surely a function of how well or badly the current AC holder is handling the event.

 

AC33 was a sh1tfest and the moment Lazza and Wuss ignored the input of prospective challengers and went with their hip-muppet of a CoR, then AC34 descended into the same.

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Like it, ETNZ is a tractor and OR is a lawn mower!

I've heard the Oracle lawn mower can foil.

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This is a call for calm. There seems to be a constant stream of trolling and arguing between members here. Those not willing to argue or take the bait are drowned out. Those with design or racing experience simply don't waste their time.

 

I have been lurking on this forum for some time as I am an Americas cup enthusiast , and the likes of JNavas post exceptional content. However, I have been disappointed by the interaction between members here.

 

Rather than intelligent discussion and debate, many of the threads devolve into heckling and trolling. The GD vs AR debate has become a religious dead horse that continues to be flogged.

 

Can't we be civil? Can't we enjoy the drama for what it is, rather than attacking each other or posturing?

 

I refer you to this page (emphasis mine):

 

About SA

 

What is Sailing Anarchy?

 

The currently available sailing publications and web sites are often filled with stories that are something less than insightful. Oh sure you can read from some expert on how to win every race that you’ve ever entered, but the real stories about people and events in this sport are either ignored or whitewashed. When was the last time your read an Editorial that didn’t put you to sleep? Many boat reviews are nothing more than politically correct spin to ensure the advertising revenue is not jeopardized. It’s time to change all that. Sailing Anarchy will present topics, ideas and, critiques that have never been written about before. Anywhere.

 

But perhaps most importantly, we have a Message Board where robust discussions will be encouraged. If you have a question about anything in a review, a roundtable, or a Q&A put it up on the Message Board and we’ll get it followed up.

 

If you’re looking to have your comments edited or ignored at the whim of a curmudgeon, then you've come to the wrong place. Got an opinion? Let’s hear it. But you better prepare for a healthy dose of reality. This is where the big kids play. If you can’t stand the heat, there are other places for you of the more sensitive in nature.

 

This site is being produced for the love of the game, not as part of some ridiculous dot com strategy, or a “gee isn't our sport of yachting so wonderful” philosophy. It is a forum for industry insiders and racing sailors to exchange ideas. We will be continually exploring topics that interest us, and we’ll be looking to the Message Board for the topics that interest you. We encourage your participation here at Sailing Anarchy. Where the hell else are you going to have this much freedom to say what you want? After all, that is ultimately what Anarchy is all about.

 

Welcome

 

Thanks very much,

Scot Tempesta

Editor/Publisher

Sailing Anarchy

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I agree with the thread starter- I just can't believe the amount of sour grapes being flung at and by this site. It's long past the point of "a healthy dose of reality" and well into pettiness.

 

My reality? I've followed the AC since I was a kid and Ted Turner defended in Courageous. We had viewing parties in Pop's basement as Dennis Connor got it back in Fremantle. I kept fingers crossed that an SF syndicate could bring it to the Bay a dozen years ago. Yep, the monohulls are more traditional and elegant, but dang! our YC got a tour of the Oracle Racing facility at Pier 80 and it looked like NASA Ames in there. (Fearless prediction: look for a wing-sail cat class at the 2020 Olympics. After a taste of the performance and challenge of even the AC 45s, anything less will feel like a copout.) Stan Honey's team is developing and bringing out unprecedented media presentations and all boat data from the ACRM's onboard sensors will be available to anyone with a smart phone and their free app. I wandered among the throngs lining the Marina Green last fall and saw first hand the enthusiasm for the event. It's not gonna replace ball-and-stick sports around here-- I'm looking at this as a bellwether for how provincial or cosmopolitan our area is.

 

Squabbling among teams? Heaven forbid! Obviously the result of poor management! You never see such accusations in Formula One, MLB, NBA, tennis, NASCAR, Premier League Socc--- oh, wait. Never mind.

 

That's my reality and I gotta say, the AC looks pretty good to me. Hie thee to SF to see the fastest, most challenging and advanced boats ever.

 

Disagreement is one thing, but just flinging factually barren emotional reactions doesn't win folks over to your point of view. On the contrary...

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I'm afraid being new here, you've missed a memo. The "rapturous enthusiasm phase" ran during 2011 and 2012. We are now into the "bitter recrimination" period.

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I'm afraid being new here, you've missed a memo. The "rapturous enthusiasm phase" ran during 2011 and 2012. We are now into the "bitter recrimination" period.

 

 

Brilliant +100000

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The increased sourness is recurring thing on SAAC, it goes up just before the AC starts for some reason, and then dies down quickly after.

Just a few months ago I read most posts but with so much BS it just isnt worth the time and effort.

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I'm afraid being new here, you've missed a memo. The "rapturous enthusiasm phase" ran during 2011 and 2012. We are now into the "bitter recrimination" period.

:lol:

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I'm afraid being new here, you've missed a memo. The "rapturous enthusiasm phase" ran during 2011 and 2012. We are now into the "bitter recrimination" period.

That post is a piece of art. Thanks mate, that's gold.

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Hey-- don't let the trolls suck the life out of you, or the AC...

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