• Announcements

    • UnderDawg

      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

BlackTarr

J22 - proud new owners

20 posts in this topic

My buddy and I just made an offer on an '85 J22 - #635. We get her on Saturday! Joining a one-design club in Annapolis (SSA) and looking forward to having our first sailboat.

 

Any advice for us newbies??

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You are planning on racing right? An established class will have local and national sailors who bend over backwards to help new people in the class get up to speed. Make sure you seek them out and take advantage of the help they can offer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

7 degrees of mast rake, Don't oversheet the jib. Remember Kmcfast's 1 law of sailing dynamics: Sailing Good, Sanding Bad,,,,,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My buddy and I just made an offer on an '85 J22 - #635. We get her on Saturday! Joining a one-design club in Annapolis (SSA) and looking forward to having our first sailboat.

 

Any advice for us newbies??

I have hull 442. Lot's of advice available but more details of the boat would help. There are many areas to look for problems and upgrades, keel bolts, bulkheads, deck rot etc etc. the class website is a must visit www.j22.com.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Congrats, you will love it and it won't break the bank trying to race it! Look up Sandy Adzik and Brad Julian, both sail out of Annapolis and are on the J/22 class board of directors. AYC is also hosting the NA's in 2014.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My buddy and I just made an offer on an '85 J22 - #635. We get her on Saturday! Joining a one-design club in Annapolis (SSA) and looking forward to having our first sailboat.

 

Any advice for us newbies??

 

SSA is one of the absolute best clubs in the known universe. That's awesome! OD is actual sailboat racing!! ... and it is most certainly the best way to get truly good in a hurry.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks all,

 

We're definitely planning to race it. I think the short term goal is to get it on the water and get comfortable sailing and learn a little more about racing rules. I think we're aiming to be able to participate in some Annapolis Frostbiting this November/December.

 

Thanks for the contacts on the J22 Board of Directors. I'll email them and say hello. I've been very impressed with the amount of outreach and welcoming from the folks in this class.

 

Very excited for the fleet! Hoping to get the boat in our possession on Sunday.

 

---jb

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And consider jumping into the deep end of the pool and doing J/22 Worlds in Newport, RI October 1-5, 2013. It is the 30th anniversary of the J/22 and may be one of the last really big Worlds in the US. 35 boats registered so far. It will be tough sledding, but you would learn a TON!

 

http://www.j22worlds.com

 

MS

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Start doing Wednesday Night racing as soon as possible. Just stay out of the way a bit at the starts and have fun. You don't need to know a lot to start racing and Wednesday nights are casual and fun.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PICTURES????? WE NEED SOME J PORN

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow! Those interior photos look... fun. except for the bulkhead most of that looks cosmetic and could take a weekend to do with your buddies. Get out on Wednesdays, only 1 more J/22 needed for a one design fleet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Check all the bulkheads. If there is one problem you don't want to have with a J22 is the bulkhead saying ADIOS AMIGO. Don't forget that these are balsa cored boats, so check for water intrusion, above and below the water line. Other than that, the J22 is one sweet sailboat. Lots of get up and go and just a pleasure to sail. I suggest 3 beer can holders in the cockpit area. That is a class requirement.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Make sure you have lifting bar that spans at least two of the keel bolts. You probably can get them from Waterline or Jboats.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Other than that, the J22 is one sweet sailboat. Lots of get up and go and just a pleasure to sail.

 

Amen to that! I'm on my second J-22. We had one in the 1980's, but sold it when we realized that sailing is tough with 4 children. We got our second one 5 years ago after retirement (Hull #395). I was fortunate to find one that had been babied.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lotsa' holes in that hatch cover..... :P

 

What does a J22 of that "vintage" cost these days? :ph34r:

 

Seriously, you'll have fun. That it's a one design is everything, good luck!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like the hull is in good shape. Watch out for soft spots in the deck, and especially the seahood with all the holes. Here is a j/22 website with details on how they replaced the bulkheads, benches etc etc. http://www.imafirst.com/sailingteam/resources/desperado/projectplan.htm

 

And as previously mentioned do not use the lifting eye on this old boat before calling Waterline and installing their lifting bar upgrade and a new lifting strap. Lots of stories of lifting eye breaking disasters on the j/22

 

Have fun with the restore. J/22 is a great boat!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Congrats J22s are a blast to sail and race and will get you better fast. I race one out of Baltimore. SSA is a good choice for a good club.

Some thoughts

1. Weight management- J22s are lighter then a lot of boats remember to ay good attention to weight it makes a lot of difference if you roll tack and keep the boat to about a 5-10 degree heel

2. Tuning - There is a nice tuning guide available online

3. Have fun and learn something every time you sail

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites