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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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sjb

Don't use "gay" in the perjorative, it makes your website

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I'm a straight east coast sailor, and hate the uptight funny pants/blue blazer crew as much as the next beer can racer. I fully appreciate that this is supposed to be anarchy, but using "gay" in the perjorative on the front page is just plain ignorant. Clean it up, guys.

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cool or homo?

 

ok sorry - just a throwback to the olden days of the forums

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Come on SA, using "gay" in the pejorative is so queer.

 

No, wait, I think it's retarded, yeah, that's it, it's retarded.

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cool or homo?

 

ok sorry - just a throwback to the olden days of the forums

Homo...way Homo.

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Come on SA, using "gay" in the pejorative is so queer.

 

No, wait, I think it's retarded, yeah, that's it, it's retarded.

Way to up the ante. Maybe some racial slurs will really make this awesome.

 

If I were an advertiser I'd yank my ads right now.

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I agree with sjb. Seems a lot of people think this stuff is funny. It's not funny.

 

'I hate the word homophobia. It's not a phobia. You are not scared; you are an asshole.'

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Come on SA, using "gay" in the pejorative is so queer.

No, wait, I think it's retarded, yeah, that's it, it's retarded.

Nailed it in one - er two....

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I agree with sjb. Seems a lot of people think this stuff is funny. It's not funny.

 

'I hate the word homophobia. It's not a phobia. You are not scared; you are an asshole.'

ditto..

 

I read it and just thought the author must be a moron....

 

kinda fits with some other front page shit I've read recently...

 

and any advertisers who think it is funny won't be in business very long.

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if anything is "gay" it's the cock slobbering from sr. chief on the fnt pg.

+1

 

It was old yrs ago when I was one of a very few speaking out against it. Today it's just ignorance.

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Don't think this site will last much longer.. We are witnessing the last death throes...

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The site is Anarchy: its like yelling at Howard Stern to knock off the vernacular. This is how people talk in the real world: outside of the PC world, you can call someone gay as a pejorative and not be 1% anti-gay any more than you are anti-anyone else. Caricatures and stereotypes are too scary for people who don't trust other people to grasp the nuance of using language in different ways for different situations. These people treat words (symbols) as real things, because they are scared of the power of words inter alia.

SA's advertisers know what they are getting - and damn straight SA should print what it wants to print. The ultimate proof of the harmlessness of this kind of language is the license we grant each group to own their terms; A jew telling another jew to quit jewing him is generally acceptable to most people. A black person calling another black person a nigger is incredibly common in pop culture and perfectly acceptable. Nobody gay bashes like the queers, as everyone knows, and everyone is fine with it.

 

Now I personally don't like to step across those lines - it's simply not respectful to do so, and it makes people uncomfortable, which is bad manners, and bad manners mean you have no class, regardless of your station in life. But fuck-all if you are reading this website, you expect and demand disrespect, THAT'S WHAT ITS HERE FOR. When you get too mainstream, you get this kind of mewling from PC John Q. Public. Bad enough gallows humor is now forbidden ( I thought Washed Up was just fine and If I were the dead guy next time id be pleased with that kind of line)...life is harsh enough already- a few laughs ain't gonna hurt anyone.

You either believe in your gut all people are born equal or you don't, and all the language in the world wont change that in a person.

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The site is Anarchy: its like yelling at Howard Stern to knock off the vernacular. This is how people talk in the real world: outside of the PC world, you can call someone gay as a pejorative and not be 1% anti-gay any more than you are anti-anyone else. Caricatures and stereotypes are too scary for people who don't trust other people to grasp the nuance of using language in different ways for different situations. These people treat words (symbols) as real things, because they are scared of the power of words inter alia.

SA's advertisers know what they are getting - and damn straight SA should print what it wants to print. The ultimate proof of the harmlessness of this kind of language is the license we grant each group to own their terms; A jew telling another jew to quit jewing him is generally acceptable to most people. A black person calling another black person a nigger is incredibly common in pop culture and perfectly acceptable. Nobody gay bashes like the queers, as everyone knows, and everyone is fine with it.

 

Now I personally don't like to step across those lines - it's simply not respectful to do so, and it makes people uncomfortable, which is bad manners, and bad manners mean you have no class, regardless of your station in life. But fuck-all if you are reading this website, you expect and demand disrespect, THAT'S WHAT ITS HERE FOR. When you get too mainstream, you get this kind of mewling from PC John Q. Public. Bad enough gallows humor is now forbidden ( I thought Washed Up was just fine and If I were the dead guy next time id be pleased with that kind of line)...life is harsh enough already- a few laughs ain't gonna hurt anyone.

You either believe in your gut all people are born equal or you don't, and all the language in the world wont change that in a person.

 

What a load of horse shit. It isn't about "political correctness". You're using PC in the pejorative now. I never use race, religion, sexual orientation or disability in a pejorative sense, and neither should any of us. Not because i want to be politically correct, but because it's wrong. You say it's ok here because, hey, it's anarchy. There is no proper place for it. "a few laughs ain't gonna hurt anyone"; do you really laugh at this crap?

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WTF look at your profile pic ? Some kind of parody?

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What, you think she's gay? That's art.

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Come on SA, using "gay" in the pejorative is so queer.

 

No, wait, I think it's retarded, yeah, that's it, it's retarded.

Way to up the ante. Maybe some racial slurs will really make this awesome.

 

If I were an advertiser I'd yank my ads right now.

 

 

he said "up the ante" and "yank my" :o

 

poofter ;)

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The site is Anarchy: its like yelling at Howard Stern to knock off the vernacular. This is how people talk in the real world: outside of the PC world, you can call someone gay as a pejorative and not be 1% anti-gay any more than you are anti-anyone else. Caricatures and stereotypes are too scary for people who don't trust other people to grasp the nuance of using language in different ways for different situations. These people treat words (symbols) as real things, because they are scared of the power of words inter alia.

SA's advertisers know what they are getting - and damn straight SA should print what it wants to print. The ultimate proof of the harmlessness of this kind of language is the license we grant each group to own their terms; A jew telling another jew to quit jewing him is generally acceptable to most people. A black person calling another black person a nigger is incredibly common in pop culture and perfectly acceptable. Nobody gay bashes like the queers, as everyone knows, and everyone is fine with it.

 

Now I personally don't like to step across those lines - it's simply not respectful to do so, and it makes people uncomfortable, which is bad manners, and bad manners mean you have no class, regardless of your station in life. But fuck-all if you are reading this website, you expect and demand disrespect, THAT'S WHAT ITS HERE FOR. When you get too mainstream, you get this kind of mewling from PC John Q. Public. Bad enough gallows humor is now forbidden ( I thought Washed Up was just fine and If I were the dead guy next time id be pleased with that kind of line)...life is harsh enough already- a few laughs ain't gonna hurt anyone.

You either believe in your gut all people are born equal or you don't, and all the language in the world wont change that in a person.

 

Sorry kid, but in the real world you don't get away with racial, sexual, or religious pejoratives. People are offended, and stupid people lose their jobs as a result. I rather doubt that the SA advertisers are big fans of this homophobic bullshit.

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if anything is "gay" it's the cock slobbering from sr. chief on the fnt pg.

Jesus was that sad and pathetic. The guy thinks he's Admiral Nelson. Real vets don't feel the need to slobber like that. Thank you for your service at sea and protecting my dock from the Germans. And you will be proud to introduce your kids to this site? Senior Douche (retired). Good luck.

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The site is Anarchy: its like yelling at Howard Stern to knock off the vernacular. This is how people talk in the real world: outside of the PC world, you can call someone gay as a pejorative and not be 1% anti-gay any more than you are anti-anyone else. Caricatures and stereotypes are too scary for people who don't trust other people to grasp the nuance of using language in different ways for different situations. These people treat words (symbols) as real things, because they are scared of the power of words inter alia.

SA's advertisers know what they are getting - and damn straight SA should print what it wants to print. The ultimate proof of the harmlessness of this kind of language is the license we grant each group to own their terms; A jew telling another jew to quit jewing him is generally acceptable to most people. A black person calling another black person a nigger is incredibly common in pop culture and perfectly acceptable. Nobody gay bashes like the queers, as everyone knows, and everyone is fine with it.

 

Now I personally don't like to step across those lines - it's simply not respectful to do so, and it makes people uncomfortable, which is bad manners, and bad manners mean you have no class, regardless of your station in life. But fuck-all if you are reading this website, you expect and demand disrespect, THAT'S WHAT ITS HERE FOR. When you get too mainstream, you get this kind of mewling from PC John Q. Public. Bad enough gallows humor is now forbidden ( I thought Washed Up was just fine and If I were the dead guy next time id be pleased with that kind of line)...life is harsh enough already- a few laughs ain't gonna hurt anyone.

You either believe in your gut all people are born equal or you don't, and all the language in the world wont change that in a person.

 

Sorry kid, but in the real world you don't get away with racial, sexual, or religious pejoratives. People are offended, and stupid people lose their jobs as a result. I rather doubt that the SA advertisers are big fans of this homophobic bullshit.

 

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Those shorts are gay anyway you look at it. Now everyone STFU about the FP!

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Those shorts are gay anyway you look at it. Now everyone STFU about the FP!

Really? You have this little crotch weasel making his living based upon YOUR participation on his website. Unless you also happen to be morbidly homophobic, wouldn't you rather be identified as someone opposed to the views espoused by the editors on the FP? I mean, feel free to be a sheep...

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I actually have a theory that these two fuckwits are desperately trying to drive the "value" of SA into the toilet because of the Myers suit.

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One of the first Openly "Marvin" MoTown performers

 

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Those shorts are gay anyway you look at it. Now everyone STFU about the FP!

Really? You have this little crotch weasel making his living based upon YOUR participation on his website. Unless you also happen to be morbidly homophobic, wouldn't you rather be identified as someone opposed to the views espoused by the editors on the FP? I mean, feel free to be a sheep...

No mate I don't give a shit who makes a living out of this place. But do you not see the irony of posting here how we should all stop posting here?

 

Baaa! Baaa!

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I'm offended that you used the term "crotch weasel" pejoratively. Whatever they are, crotch weasels have as much right to respect as gays.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those shorts are gay anyway you look at it. Now everyone STFU about the FP!


Really? You have this little crotch weasel making his living based upon YOUR participation on his website. Unless you also happen to be morbidly homophobic, wouldn't you rather be identified as someone opposed to the views espoused by the editors on the FP? I mean, feel free to be a sheep...

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I'm a bit confused here. Are we mad at Ed/Clean again or at the whiny poofter who started this thread?

 

I'd hate myself for joining the crybabies, but I really don't want to defend Dumb and Dumber either!

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I'm a straight east coast sailor, and hate the uptight funny pants/blue blazer crew as much as the next beer can racer. I fully appreciate that this is supposed to be anarchy, but using "gay" in the perjorative on the front page is just plain ignorant. Clean it up, guys.

 

OP's a phaggot

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Sorry kid, but in the real world you don't get away with racial, sexual, or religious pejoratives. People are offended, and stupid people lose their jobs as a result.

 

Sorry Grandma, but USA != Real World.

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Anarchists are supposed to be people who rebel against any authority, established order, or ruling power, in this case where in the US it seems there are an indecent amount of NYYC clones and sailing is at the elitist end of society, SA seems an appropriate response. However using "gay" or "homo" or whatever demonstrates the pitiful intellectual level of the authors. which is of immature pimply teenagers who havent managed to meet anyone gay yet, when a gay black sailor is probably the ultimate "anarchist" as they would have to rebel against the social straightjacket that even the rebels on this board put them in. Oh and Its simply bad manners to call people names.

 

Cheers GB

 

 

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What's everyone getting so butt-hurt over? Someone on the internet called someone GAY?!? Holy chit, call the FBI/CIA/CSIRO/AFP/Bill Gates/The Queen/Larry E......

 

Seriously guys, how is this even news.

 

You realise that there are countries where women are still being oppressed and children are starving, right? #firstworldproblems

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Anarchists are supposed to be.....

I see. So we have to conform to your expectations.

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Yay, another post on the site about how someone doesn't like the site.

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They are doing a damn fine job of it!

 

I actually have a theory that these two fuckwits are desperately trying to drive the "value" of SA into the toilet because of the Myers suit.

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They are doing a damn fine job of it!

 

I actually have a theory that these two fuckwits are desperately trying to drive the "value" of SA into the toilet because of the Myers suit.

 

Well, we all have to be good at something, and god knows writing headlines for the mythical front page isn't their forte.

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SA now means Sailing Assholes.

 

Got their asses sued for calling someone a "grifter"

 

last week managed to insult the family of tragic sailing accident victim

 

now, they want take on gays?

 

these guys are just plain stupid...sadly, that isn't easy to fix.

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I'm a straight east coast sailor, and hate the uptight funny pants/blue blazer crew as much as the next beer can racer. I fully appreciate that this is supposed to be anarchy, but using "gay" in the perjorative on the front page is just plain ignorant. Clean it up, guys.

 

+1 If there are any advertisers who read through any of the forum BS... know that I'll not be buying from you.

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I'm a straight east coast sailor, and hate the uptight funny pants/blue blazer crew as much as the next beer can racer. I fully appreciate that this is supposed to be anarchy, but using "gay" in the perjorative on the front page is just plain ignorant. Clean it up, guys.

Use of the word perjorative is by default gay

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They haven't made fun of paraplegics, blind people, or public masturbators this week. Bunch of slackers :rolleyes:

 

 

They are doing a damn fine job of it!

 

I actually have a theory that these two fuckwits are desperately trying to drive the "value" of SA into the toilet because of the Myers suit.

 

Well, we all have to be good at something, and god knows writing headlines for the mythical front page isn't their forte.

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Well, now the Dawg has jumped ship, I'm sure it's just a matter of time until the first group makes the headlines.

And Ed and Scot aren't known for their self-deprecating humour, so don't hold your breath for the public masturbators jokes.

 

They haven't made fun of paraplegics, blind people, or public masturbators this week. Bunch of slackers :rolleyes:

 

 

They are doing a damn fine job of it!

 

I actually have a theory that these two fuckwits are desperately trying to drive the "value" of SA into the toilet because of the Myers suit.

 

Well, we all have to be good at something, and god knows writing headlines for the mythical front page isn't their forte.

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Ya'll faggots go and donate to Scooter's yet another undisclosed unreporting fund now, ya hear!

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Ya'll faggots go and donate to Scooter's yet another undisclosed unreporting fund now, ya hear!

What happened to the last fund raising exercise??

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Which one? The SAYC memberships fund? Scot told everyone to shut the fuck up and donate to his commercial enterprise which did not have an obligation to report on how the funds would be spent.

 

 

 

Ya'll faggots go and donate to Scooter's yet another undisclosed unreporting fund now, ya hear!

What happened to the last fund raising exercise??

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Which one? The SAYC memberships fund? Scot told everyone to shut the fuck up and donate to his commercial enterprise which did not have an obligation to report on how the funds would be spent.

 

 

 

Ya'll faggots go and donate to Scooter's yet another undisclosed unreporting fund now, ya hear!

What happened to the last fund raising exercise??

That might have been the one, how many people donated to that one???? :rolleyes:

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The hyperbole is strong on this one

Because this is a fight of good versus evil.

We have dedicated the last 13 years of our lives sharing this sport with you on Sailing Anarchy. What’s *********** done for you besides sitting back on his superyacht, pulling on cigars and scotch with his pals Ernie and Brad, laughing about how easy it is to crush the little guy with cash and power. If ************ wins, SA disappears – quite publicly. If ************ wins, sailing takes a step backwards. Money and fear will have triumphed over honesty and fun.

It will be up to you who wins this suit. ************ has proven he is fighting with nothing but his wallet. We have the truth on our side and an army of supporters, but without your money, we lose. It’s your decision: Do we live or do we die?

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I was recently informed by the Mrs that it's not nice to say "retarded" either, you Scrote Strokers.

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The hyperbole is strong on this one

Because this is a fight of good versus evil.

We have dedicated the last 13 years of our lives sharing this sport with you on Sailing Anarchy. What’s *********** done for you besides sitting back on his superyacht, pulling on cigars and scotch with his pals Ernie and Brad, laughing about how easy it is to crush the little guy with cash and power. If ************ wins, SA disappears – quite publicly. If ************ wins, sailing takes a step backwards. Money and fear will have triumphed over honesty and fun.

It will be up to you who wins this suit. ************ has proven he is fighting with nothing but his wallet. We have the truth on our side and an army of supporters, but without your money, we lose. It’s your decision: Do we live or do we die?

and the melodrama, they both might have to get real jobs :o

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The hyperbole is strong on this one

Because this is a fight of good versus evil.

We have dedicated the last 13 years of our lives sharing this sport with you on Sailing Anarchy. What’s *********** done for you besides sitting back on his superyacht, pulling on cigars and scotch with his pals Ernie and Brad, laughing about how easy it is to crush the little guy with cash and power. If ************ wins, SA disappears – quite publicly. If ************ wins, sailing takes a step backwards. Money and fear will have triumphed over honesty and fun.

It will be up to you who wins this suit. ************ has proven he is fighting with nothing but his wallet. We have the truth on our side and an army of supporters, but without your money, we lose. It’s your decision: Do we live or do we die?

and the melodrama, they both might have to get real jobs :o

 

Or Ed might have to sell the Shaw! :o

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Loosen up your training bras you buncha bitches.* Those prissy little outfits were gay look'n and y'all know it. The FP simply stated the obvious.

 

 

 

*Do I have the required number of posts to make the above statement?

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Asking if those guys look gay is lame. So beyond the pale it hurts.

 

Asking if those guys look like Craig Fletcher is okay.

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Asking if those guys look gay is lame. So beyond the pale it hurts.

 

Asking if those guys look like Craig Fletcher is okay.

can't see the chin implants from that angle

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Sheish... with all the traffic in these threads and the resulting comments, I would expect it to be raining warning points.

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Loosen up your training bras you buncha bitches.* Those prissy little outfits were gay look'n and y'all know it. The FP simply stated the obvious.

 

 

 

*Do I have the required number of posts to make the above statement?

 

How were their outfits even remotely homosexual? You realise nobody else is wearing baggy three quarter jean-shorts anymore bloke. Maybe it's time to update your wardrobe.

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They haven't made fun of paraplegics, blind people, or public masturbators this week. Bunch of slackers :rolleyes:

They always give Gaston a free kick.

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I think same sex genital caressing is perfectly acceptable but two wheels on a 40 footer is friggin gay. Just saying.

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I was recently informed by the Mrs that it's not nice to say "retarded" either, you Scrote Strokers.

Well tell that cunt to harden the fuck up.

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You are all so Homo Sapiens. Or Homo Erectus.

so now we have homosapienaphobics?

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What, you thaink she's gay? That's art.

That is revolting sexism you homo

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God and I thought the front page was why I don't visit this site often anymore.....

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God and I thought the front page was why I don't visit this site often anymore.....

Sailing ANARCHY is not about POLITE discourse. Poof

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I'm a straight east coast sailor.

for the geographically challenged furriner, does this mean there is also a winding east coast or a gay east coast?

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I'm a straight east coast sailor, and hate the uptight funny pants/blue blazer crew as much as the next beer can racer. I fully appreciate that this is supposed to be anarchy, but using "gay" in the perjorative on the front page is just plain ignorant. Clean it up, guys.

Im a gay east coast Aussie sailor and can definately tell you that there are quite a number of very good gay sailors out there, most in the halfway grey zone between being in and out to their sailing mates, a few who are totally out and a few, mostly older guys, who are in the closet totally.

 

It takes a lot to annoy me, and its not until recently that I would have been shitted off about the use of 'gay' in this manner, hell i even called gays gay.

 

Sailing people are by and large, and I mean 99% plus, supportive and dont give 2 shits about someones sexuality, its beneath most to care. Sure theres always a few tossers out there but u get the idea. I came out nearly 15 years ago, at the time running the bow on a local maxi and no one gave a shit at all I wantedsome sort of reaction I think and got 'your gay, ok...and?'

 

Just my 2 penny's worth, now all go fuck yourselves:)

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