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DQOTD: Foulie Reinforcing Patches NOT GoreTex treated?

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I tried the Henri Lloyd site and Google already, but didn't find an answer. My GoreTex foulies, that have served me very well, seem to be taking on water based on the port to port I did a few days ago in the rain - but it's not always clear if the "water" is (sweat or leaks) from inside the foulies or outside. So I brought them home, washed and then dried them to reactive the GoreTex per instructions. Took them out and poured water on the bottoms. Water beads up on runs off beautifully. But the large reinforcing patches on the knees and seat drink up water. Are they not treated? Do I need a DWR re-spray or wash in? I am not against re-spraying to be sure, but I've gotten the impression it's not a good idea to re-spray/wash in too many times.

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I resealed all the inside seams with tent seam sealer or aqua seal, then sprayed with two coats of Scotch Guard, especially the areas that are known to leak. Still waiting for a rainy sail to check results....

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Gore-tex will tell you (or at least, they've told me) to wash your gear (with a quality product - like Nikwax, not detergent!)- if you don't wash + dryer it the laminate will eventually separate. If water isn't beading up - give it a DWR coating (like the Nikwax mentioned)

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why are there distinctions for ....gear anarchy...fix -it anarchy et al ...if everyone's little problem gets dumped here.......seriously "wet foulies" who the fuck cares....buy new ones....

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Lighten up Francis...did you have an answer, or just wanted to rant?

why are there distinctions for ....gear anarchy...fix -it anarchy et al ...if everyone's little problem gets dumped here.......seriously "wet foulies" who the fuck cares....buy new ones....

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Lighten up Francis...did you have an answer, or just wanted to rant?

why are there distinctions for ....gear anarchy...fix -it anarchy et al ...if everyone's little problem gets dumped here.......seriously "wet foulies" who the fuck cares....buy new ones....

 

 

Kind of like "Condo Commandos", we have the forum police here... Don't hang out your foulies to dy on Sunday, or the citation will go into your permanent record.... :P

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Look at the fabric being used in both spots. Cordura reinforcement is big heavy thick material/weave, while the goretex fabric itself is ultra tight and thin threads. Water on the inside could simply be condensation, as the patches will stay wet and cold relative to the rest of the material.

 

HW

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