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eric e

LVC RR1 Race 2 10 July

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WTF....I went to watch the video to see the boys play with their new toy and it is blocked in NZ......

 

Nice to see that the America's Cup is continuing it's tradition of being an absolute joke. One day NZ will wake up and stop spending so much time and effort on such a crap event.

 

There are so many better places to spend all that money. The sooner the America's Cup dies, the better.

Inastall chrome and this extention https://mediahint.com/ - will make you hide your ip and pretend you are in USA - problem solved. PS: youtube should be allowed in country anyway - regardless of TV rights. You want to compete - don't make competing coverage illegal/blocked. Make your coverage better - put a butterflies with the boats - I don't care how you do it - but try and be better than free or don't bother tvnz.

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For some reason the Race 2 & 3 Virtualeye were pretty slow going up but they are there now.

Interestingly ETNZ nearly got a penalty.

 

There seems to be a boundary box change that allows entry to the start but changes on the first downwind, they nearly cut the corner.

At first I thought it was a data point issue but the corner is there on all 3 races & disappears after the boat passes it.

 

Corner nearly cut

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Corner not there anymore after passing

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Dunno how accurate the scale of the boat is in this but they seem to have been possibly single digits away from that corner

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In a 2 boat race the penalty is to slow down to let the other guy pass right?

So in a 1 boat race, whats the penalty?

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For some reason the Race 2 & 3 Virtualeye were pretty slow going up but they are there now.

Interestingly ETNZ nearly got a penalty.

 

There seems to be a boundary box change that allows entry to the start but changes on the first downwind, they nearly cut the corner.

At first I thought it was a data point issue but the corner is there on all 3 races & disappears after the boat passes it.

 

Corner nearly cut

var85.png

 

Corner not there anymore after passing

2j51bt4.png

 

Dunno how accurate the scale of the boat is in this but they seem to have been possibly single digits away from that corner

f25xr7.png

 

In a 2 boat race the penalty is to slow down to let the other guy pass right?

So in a 1 boat race, whats the penalty?

 

Presumably you need to wait for ADCAT to overtake you? Quicker than waiting for AR to hit the course

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Great work hoom. That 'disappearing corner' is weird!

 

Penalties are complicated and vary depending on leg, prestart, 3 boat length circle, 5 boat length continuous obstruction, etc and whether interaction with the other boat/s is involved (rule covers fleet racing situations as well). Sometimes the penalty line is established 2 boat lengths behind the other boat, sometimes it's 2 boat lengths behind yours.

 

I think the latest ISAF rule includes some adjustments to the penalty area, but it's not redlined.. http://noticeboard.americascup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ISAF-Racing-Rules-of-Sailing-AC-Edition-v-1.17.pdf

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So in a 1 boat race, whats the penalty?

 

Five seconds listening to the sound of one hand clapping.

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