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The first 2 boat race! LVC LR vs. ETNZ

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countdown clock should show your local time until race

 

1 day 8 hours at present for Sat.13 July or Sun 14th July depending where you are

 

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countdown clock should show your local time until race

 

1 day 8 hours at present for Sat.13 July or Sun 14th July depending where you are

 

 

Note that while the time is correct for Saturdays race ETNZ vs LR RR2, Race 1, it is incorrectly labelled as RR2, Race 2.

 

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Only the ETNZ vs LR races in the rounds to follow are showing up as 'LIVE EVENTS' at present, see: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4jyS1DaVhX_J1hDtkdwaNnrBBV4rmthG

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How come most embedded video links now show as black boxes and I cannot click to watch the video???

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I don't think ETNZ will try to beat them by too much.

I'm still thinking ETNZ are sandbagging a bit to keep OR guessing on what their optimum angles and speeds are.

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it wd be fun if LR trownced ETNZ convincyngly

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Well lets see the gap shall we?? :)

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That girl is so new she still has the tags on

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Well lets see the gap shall we?? :)

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That girl is so new she still has the tags on

 

RFID Safety measure. Thanks Iain :rolleyes:

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Will be viewing on the water today, but the exclusion zone is huge compared to last year. But you can see them up close when they are warming up away from the course. Anybody know what VHF channels have race info?

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The AC map shows that it's ok to pass between Alcatraz and SF but on Thursday the marshal boat made us stay north of Alcatraz Island.

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How come most embedded video links now show as black boxes and I cannot click to watch the video???

 

Hey...

 

First... I am NOT a techy... but seem to get by.

 

I think you are saying that you click on it... it opens to a black box that doesnt do anything.

 

I have found that if you click to expand the screen... for some reason the vid plays. IIRC it would happen vimeo...

 

Of course this may not be what you describing.

 

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@americascupLIVE: Big day! #LVCup RR2, Race 1 @EmiratesTeamNZ v @lunarossa2013 Wind 17-20, SW 220. Wind limit 22. 7 leg course #americascup #summerofracing

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The AC map shows that it's ok to pass between Alcatraz and SF but on Thursday the marshal boat made us stay north of Alcatraz Island.

 

There are many 'maps'. Recently they had to push the boundaries even further out as they claim the crews wanted a 45 second buffer beyond the boundaries before they ran into traffic!

 

Good luck with your mission out there you poor bugger! ;)

 

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Live on TV1...good morning fellow Anarchists!! :D Look forward to an enjoyable race, regardless of who wins! Welll.....not quite.

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Is there a guest on ETNZ?

Yep...4 million of us!!

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Cannot believe they still have tugger on...

 

though he is better than jobbo and that Xgames guy that sounds like a 12 year old girl - they'll be back for the next one and tugger and andy go to the in-person commentating

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Course 2 is 7 legs by the way

 

 

Is there a guest on ETNZ?

 

IM's SRs!

 

Virtual is good - 4,500,002

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Watching live on the youtubes from Palma de Mallorca. It's gonna be amazing!

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Is there a guest on ETNZ?

Yep...4 million of us!!

 

Cute. Plus one.

:D of course...

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Back to the red and green dots behind. No ferns - or handbags! :(

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Why are there boats anchored on the coarse?

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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I guess wind limits are back on the table with the Jury ruling as well...go LR!! :D

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Nice grap Wethog Why are there boats anchored on the coarse? - sailing anarchy?

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Pretty clear this ac is going to be won into wind.

Or at least offer opportunities to attack the opponent - as long as they're not too far back. Dees Smith has done a great job schooling Barker and his team on the local conditions...

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My prediction is that this race was won 45 sec before the start .

 

Stayed with it till the first mark off to home depot to find something interesting to do :)

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don't understand LR's tactics- following in the wake of NZ in jibes, then the way they are handling the current and their position relative to NZ going up wind

 

and didya see the LR crew trying to get on the grinder with the handles spinning? yikes

 

and how cool was NZ's rounding of the leeward mark

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Where can I find the crew lists and a course description? (They may be on AmericasCup.com, but I can't find them there.)

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This is going to be close to a 40 minute elapsed time.

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Pretty clear this ac is going to be won into wind.

 

ETNZ-LR lost almost 2 minutes upwind. So yeah, upwind will decide things.

 

Also, with the shorter bowsprit, ETNZ-LR's boat does not look balanced. Maybe once they get the boat sorted out with the new/shorter bowsprit they will improve, but it would need too be a huge leap of improvement to catch ETNZ.

 

What an ass kicking.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Unforced error crossing the boundary for ETNZ-LR now.

 

The wheels, and nipples, have completely fallen off the boat. ;)

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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the facebook generation is going to fall asleep with this Cup, I am afraid.

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Surely you mean 'on the course'? But agree what are they doin g on the course?

 

Why are there boats anchored on the coarse?

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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ETNZ had a small problem. Fixed now? That first cross, wow

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ETNZ had a small problem. Fixed now? That first cross, wow

 

They had a problem, but it didn't matter:

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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Impossible to get the AC site in my airport in Europe, pretty frustrating, I'll break my cane. :angry:

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Where can I find the crew lists and a course description? (They may be on AmericasCup.com, but I can't find them there.)

 

 

Courses 1 and 2 were finalised here http://noticeboard.americascup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sailing-Instructions-LVC-including-Amendment-2.pdf

 

Thanks. I had hoped that there was something on the AC website that a less interested, casual viewer could refer to to understand the framework, like crew lists for the current race, length of the course etc.

A comprehensive overview for the non-geek like the person I'm currently watching the race with.

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ETNZ had a small problem. Fixed now? That first cross, wow

 

They had a problem, but it didn't matter:

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

True except it halved their lead. Awesome to watch. The shut out at the start was total

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If I was Bertelli, I'd send as much help over to Artemis to get them finished and on the water so he has someone to beat. This is just awful racing.

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I am surprised that there is no one on the helm when Barker runs from side to side during a tack.

 

I wonder if Oracle does it the same way.

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This is an AC33 type ass kicking:

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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Broadcasters are boring... But what can they do - this is a one sided race

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I noticed they aren't giving the distance between the two boats anymore. I think Dogzilla's biggest lead was 3.5K - I imagine this will be at least 1.5K by the end.

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^ oops?

 

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I noticed they aren't giving the distance between the two boats anymore. I think Dogzilla's biggest lead was 3.5K - I imagine this will be at least 1.5K by the end.

It's a bit hard to get both boats in the same shot!

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The first beer will be down before LR get to the bottom mark

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True except it halved their lead. Awesome to watch. The shut out at the start was total

 

Screen grab of the "small issue", or of an ETNZ sailor trying to fix something:

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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Well, that answered that then...

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What superyachts are there with NZ flags?

 

I can see Adela, Imagine D and Thalia, any other ones?

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waste of time...it was cool to watch for 5 minutes...golf watching is better.

 

Yes, the boats are impressive, but any significant difference in boat performance will result in a huge distance between the boats. THey'll seldom be in shot at the same time...

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If TNZ averaged 30 knots on the downwind leg their lead was over 4.5KM when they finished.

 

I think TNZ is going to give us a run for our money.

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Not true Ray Davies is on the other wheel until Barker gets there

I am surprised that there is no one on the helm when Barker runs from side to side during a tack.

 

I wonder if Oracle does it the same way.

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Not true Ray Davies is on the other wheel until Barker gets there

I am surprised that there is no one on the helm when Barker runs from side to side during a tack.

 

I wonder if Oracle does it the same way.

 

I see him there for the gybes, I didn't see anyone on the wheel during the tacks. I will have to check it out when the replay is available.

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Insult to injury, ETNZ-LR are not going to beat the 5 minute deadline. :lol:

 

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WetHog :ph34r:

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waste of time...it was cool to watch for 5 minutes...golf watching is better.

Yes, the boats are impressive, but any significant difference in boat performance will result in a huge distance between the boats. THey'll seldom be in shot at the same time...

 

This was predicted 18 months ago .

 

Just took this long for everyone else to realize it .

 

The hardest job for AC 34 will be held by the commentators .

 

This is going to suck to truly epic proportions .

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Not true Ray Davies is on the other wheel until Barker gets there

I am surprised that there is no one on the helm when Barker runs from side to side during a tack.

 

I wonder if Oracle does it the same way.

 

I see him there for the gybes, I didn't see anyone on the wheel during the tacks. I will have to check it out when the replay is available.

 

Why wait? You can restart the video whenever you want to or go to any particular point you want - it's not really 'live'

 

 

 

 

Race 4. Hey will someone tell me about that time on distance thing again. Really important apparently :rolleyes:

 

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This 5 minutes rule sucks!

Murray will change it so as not to embarrass OR...much B)

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Yes, the boats are impressive, but any significant difference in boat performance will result in a huge distance between the boats. THey'll seldom be in shot at the same time...

 

I would chalk this ass kicking up to a significant difference in crew performance, then boat performance.

 

ETNZ's crew was flawless, ETNZ-LR's was piss poor.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Gawdammit, keep messing up my alarm timing, got online in time for LR to round the last mark -_-

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LR looked like a flash in the pan :)

 

Actually flashed good speed, damn near 40 knots at times.

 

But damn that was dominating by ETNZ. Crushed 'em!

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