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International 14 Worlds - Toronto

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Alright I'll get it started. Any info/thoughts. Predictions. Party favors? Looking forward to see all my 'Puck Head' buddies

BR

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Especially given that a couple of the strongest UK teams won't be attending, it'd take a brave man to bet against the reigning 3 time champ. Don't think the new boats are a real advance - merely catching up to the B5 G1 adaptation which was 1st and 3rd at last worlds.

Being controversial I would say look out for Pascoe / Knight sailing the departure design for this regatta assuming a range of conditions.

On the off chance of solid breeze all week the Partingtons and the Aussies will show well I reckon, as well as the two teams already mentioned.

If it errs more towards the light, Pattison / Tait have been very strong in the UK.

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Agree,

Archie will be tough to beat, has he been sailing much? Also agree new boats not a huge leap forward, but that wasn't the goal. More affordable boats which will at minimum keep up with the B5s, and I think the B6 has certainly done that. Ive been fortunate enough to have sailed against them a lot and they aren't any slower that is for sure and in certian conditions may be faster than the B5. Agree boats to watch will certainly be dependant on weather/breeze. Having grown up on the Great Lakes, my perdiction is - anything goes! We will probably see a bit of everything, then it will change - quickly.

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If there is light stuff it will be interesting to watch the smaller Canadian crews (Andrew Yates/John Curtis and Chris Leigh/John Hudson in K3s, along with Jen Provan/Brandy Cocoroach on the B5 mmmotorboat) They get double wiring before just about anyone. As the breeze and waves build - it may be a different story...

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At the same time last year, we had 10 days with winds over 10kts, and a quarter of the days with over 15...

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Look to either Sorta or Princess to win the bargatta.

 

"garson... another round of *hiccup* orange whips!"

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Look to either Sorta or Princess to win the bargatta.

 

I have no doubt you will be at the top of the home-team finishers but I am pumped to see what the visitors are bringing to the event...

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I see the Southern California fleet is well coordinated, starting two threads on the same topic within two days of each other. I look to Bundy and Lanzinger to re-establish a US presence at the top end, assuming they've been practicing.

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Look to either Sorta or Princess to win the bargatta.

 

"garson... another round of *hiccup* orange whips!"

Excellent, I see you are familiar with the training program.

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The UK fleet has been in training for a few months now. Duchesne and Van Essen are probably the frontrunners - they were already comfortable at the September target level in late June, so they should be strong competition for the Canadian pros.

 

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I'm kinda glad we don't post pictures of our bargatta training regimen... but thanks to Kalu.ca there are some wicked aerial shots of the Canadian Championships from a week ago in Kingston available here. Apologies for making you sort through a bunch of boring 49er and FX shots before the good stuff: nearly 100 photos of the I14 fleet ripping it up in 15+kts!

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Kalu did a great job on those aerial shots, now lets see some equivalents from the worlds (how awesome that would be for those of us stuck behind desks at the time)...

 

What kind of weather have you requested for September?

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It was 'ALL ON' yesterday afternoon in the build up to the I14 Worlds in Toronto.

 

Sailing back from a weekend in the states on our cruising boat I was happy to see a few of the top crews from GBR, CAN and AUS blasting around the Toronto Islands.

 

By the time we got close enough to see the snowbirds completing their spirals and dives at the Toronto Airshow overhead, the wind on the water had built to about 20-22 knots from the NW. We watched one boat flying a blue chute blast onto the world's race course - going ballistic downwind over the 4-foot waves. We didn't see them sailing back although there was a vague report of splintered carbon...

 

Back in Toronto Harbour the reigning world champion from GBR did a few circuits to the city and back while the reigning AUS champion appeared right at home testing their gear in the breeze. There were probably 10 or more boats flying through the ferry-lanes all afternoon. If this wind holds for the championships it will be pretty awesome!!!

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when does Worlds start?

Measurement starts this coming Sunday, with Team Racing on Monday the 9th. Fleet racing starts on the 14th. Full schedule (including the party scene) is here.

 

-S

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Maybe you should bring that 14 over a couple lakes and we can teach you how to make bunks for it. May as well sail it while you're close!

when does Worlds start?

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Too damned busy, and not willing to embarrass myself just yet. Going mothing in Muskegon tomorrow...thanks for the invite though! As always, if ya want to write up some fun stuff from TO, we'll be happy to run it.

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Practice conditions where pretty epic down the 401 tonight for those able to make it out. Looking foreword to seeing you all soon.

 

Clean, you should make the short drive, even if just for the party. You can feel free to join the rest of us embarrassing ourselves with unorthodox sailing techniques.

 

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It's actually killing me that 14 worlds are coming to North America in the exact same month as canoe worlds in san francisco. Scheduling is a harsh mistress.

DRC

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Practice conditions where pretty epic down the 401 tonight for those able to make it out. Looking foreword to seeing you all soon.

 

Clean, you should make the short drive, even if just for the party. You can feel free to join the rest of us embarrassing ourselves with unorthodox sailing techniques.

 

So I always look forward to seeing the BFB movies, and that one is one of my favourite thus far. I can't wait to see what gets pulled out of the worlds!

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Practice conditions where pretty epic down the 401 tonight for those able to make it out. Looking foreword to seeing you all soon.

 

Clean, you should make the short drive, even if just for the party. You can feel free to join the rest of us embarrassing ourselves with unorthodox sailing techniques.

 

Would have made for good movies last night - a strong north breeze lead to big puffs and shifts as turbulence came off the city. What a gongshow...

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heavily considering it.

Hell, I'll even take for a Pony ride if you make! Plus show you how to make bunks!

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the exact same month as canoe worlds in san francisco. Scheduling is a harsh mistress.

and the Americas cup, and the little Americas cup, and big boat series..........

 

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Aren't the IC worlds next year?

Yes, the IC Worlds are Sept 7-15 2014 at Richmond YC .

More on that soon.

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If only the university would give me credit for it I'd be there in an instant. Still amazed I misread this and thought the 14 worlds were next year. yikes..

DRC

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It sounds like team GBR1 wrapped up the team racing with a flawless record. Any good stories?

 

One more sleep, I can't wait for this event to kick off.

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Practice race done. Cloudy skies. 51 F. 18 from the north with gusts in the 20s. Up wind launch with a recorded 30 kt gust caused carnage. Half the boats launched six boats finished. All hipothermic. Only comment was COLD. Devine first, Irwin second. Today is first real race. Sunny warmer and lighter

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First race done

Three time in a row champ archie massy first ,looking for a fourpeat. andy partington second sailing with his son tom

 

Sunny but still cold -off to Canada tire to look for touques (fuzzy hats) and thicker fleeses for under the wetsuit

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Practice race done. Cloudy skies. 51 F. 18 from the north with gusts in the 20s. Up wind launch with a recorded 30 kt gust caused carnage. Half the boats launched six boats finished. All hipothermic. Only comment was COLD. ..........

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...ahh,TO's up to it's usual fall-time tricks,I see :huh:

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Lay day Wednesday

No wind Thursday and Friday lost to no wind also. PRO got excited about 1:30 after hours of waiting and sent us out. But the breeze died on the way out and back we went. Tomorrow is the last day of the regatta and hoping for two races. But the forecast is sketchy. Three time world champ Archie Massie is leading by two points

And he is my hero. In his tool box he only has car bog and a hammer

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So Princess, who's leading the bargatta?

 

PS - aerial shots in Kingston courtesy of 49er.ca ;-)

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The legend of "Jungle Fire" returns...

ouch, I still have jungle fire night mare every now and then.

pics or ...

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Rain and light building to rain and maybe ten kts out of the south. Archie and Dan win the last race to win the regatta convincingly. That's four in a row for Archie. Ouch

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Bargatta victory probably goes to one of the German boats. Those guys are machines. I can't even claim top Canadian, as Brandy and Squeegy trounced me.

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Bargatta victory probably goes to one of the German boats. Those guys are machines. I can't even claim top Canadian, as Brandy and Squeegy trounced me.

 

Like :rolleyes:

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Given the limited sailing, any conclusions about all the new tech assembled, AM still gyber-less?

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Given the limited sailing, any conclusions about all the new tech assembled, AM still gyber-less?

Correct. No twist-tiller for t-foil control, either.

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How'd the K3 fair?

 

I'm surprised no more twist foil control. I hated having to reach into the boat to pull a line. Way better, for me, to just stay hiked and twist a tiller at will.

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The top K3 sailed by Canadian 49er team Gordon and Trevor was 10th. They convincingly won the 4th race. Several used boats are for sale, unfortunately at a rumored staggeringly high price. These boats are very cleanly rigged (its all hidden under the foredeck) and light weight. Most seem to have a twist grip foil adjuster very nicely machined by Rob Paterson. I confess i don't know for certain but believe they use gybers.

 

All 7 Henderson Boat Company B6's were there as well as the first British B6. B6's finished 5th and 9th. All Henderson boats use gybers and twist grip. The British boat neither. The B6's had many different rigs- CST, C-Tec, Bieker 5 and Bieker 6 rigs. They all seem to work just fine. Hull 1 is on its way to japan and Hull 7 was sold to some Torontians. Go figure!

 

Two single spreader rigs finished in the top 10. Join the revolution!

 

Archie may not use a gyber but he uses a way longer board than most. Henderson's system, designed and engineered by Paul Bieker has a very clean hull transition.

 

Twist grip mechanisms are being manufactured by Ovington, Henderson and Rob Paterson. There is a pretty good new system that eliminates the bungee and positively winds on and off. Thanks to Dave Hayter for bringing it and wheels to North America!

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We've been trying to tell you about the whole wheel thing for an extended period of time. You'll only listen if some Aussie tells you about it though! People in other parts (not Seattle) of THIS country have been using these wheels for a prolonged period!

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Dan- first off i don't think any of the top 5 boats' results were influenced by whether they used string foil or tiller adjusters. That being said i am pretty sure they all used wheels-on their dollies/cradles to launch and move their boats. Class humor directed at Seattle guys. Most use stacking cradles which work great for travel but are not so launch friendly. Dave H. simply fitted his out with castor wheel to help movement. Come to think of it, he dominated all the regattas in the U.S. before he added them. Hmm. There could be something to think about. I wonder if he didnt have wheels if...

 

Cheers.

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A ha hah I thought given the context it was something relating to novel foil adjustment.

Yes wheels are fairly prevalent in the UK 14 fleet, we all swear by them, particularly when launching off a gently shelving beach at low tide, which occasionally happens!

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