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America’s Cup in the News

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Lots of media coverage so I thought I’d start a thread to post links to stories

 

America's Cup: Larry Ellison's epic journey to reach pinnacle of sailing marked by daring and defiance

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_24025651/americas-cup-larry-ellisons-epic-journey-reach-pinnacle

 

Unsung Heroes Of The America's Cup
The following guest post is by Andrew Ferrier, who has held director and executive positions for large multinationals and currently serves as the Chair of New Zealand Trade and Enterprise, an international business development agency. He also runs his own investment firm, which has no financial interest in any of the companies mentioned below.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/groupthink/2013/09/05/unsung-heroes-of-the-americas-cup/

 

Editorial: Team NZ keep showing an unkillable will

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11120916

 

Oracle Team USA begins defense of America’s Cup

http://www.sail-world.com/USA/Oracle-Team-USA-begins-defense-of-Americas-Cup/114150

 

The man who hates to lose: Oracle boss Larry Ellison

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11120875

 

America’s Cup: Fazed or focussed?

http://www.yachtingworld.com/blogs/matthew-sheahan/535198/america-s-cup-fazed-or-focussed

 

In San Francisco, It’s Rich Club, Poor Club
Among Many Differences, America’s Cup Is Biggest
(This is a good article about the St. Francis Yacht Club and the Golden Gate Yacht Club. It contains some details that Julian Guthrie did not include in her book.)

 

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Dana Johannsen: We finally saw a real boat race

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11121441

 

Sailing on the Edge: Photos from the America’s Cup

http://www.parade.com/59040/sarahlyon/sailing/

 

At troubled America's Cup regatta, mastermind Ellison a no-show

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/09/07/sailing-americascup-ellison-idINL2N0H225G20130907

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Dana Johannsen: We finally saw a real boat race

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11121441

This quote might be a bit of a stretch:

"Emirates Team New Zealand completely dominated Oracle Team USA in the first two races of the 34th America's Cup defense."

 

Race 2, ok. Race 1? Not so much.

Well, ya gotta consider the source...

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My wife and I spent about 38 hours sitting in various Emirates planes over the last fortnight, plus a bunch of time in their lounges in transit.

 

There was not a single mention or a single image of Emirates TNZ or any AC whatsover in that time. The sports channel onboard was showing the match racing in Bavaria Match 40s, though. It was pretty bizarre to see ETNZ's major sponsor completely ignore their own team.

 

We also Skyped our oldest kid, who is probably the perfect sort of person this AC was trying to interest; he's living a few blocks from the AC venue, recently left Google to do a startup, and has been partying at a venture capitalist's place with his friends who work at Facebook and a co-founder of Youtube. And he says that he has not heard a single mention of the AC in his time in The City....

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My wife and I spent about 38 hours sitting in various Emirates planes over the last fortnight, plus a bunch of time in their lounges in transit.

 

There was not a single mention or a single image of Emirates TNZ or any AC whatsover in that time. The sports channel onboard was showing the match racing in Bavaria Match 40s, though. It was pretty bizarre to see ETNZ's major sponsor completely ignore their own team.

 

We also Skyped our oldest kid, who is probably the perfect sort of person this AC was trying to interest; he's living a few blocks from the AC venue, recently left Google to do a startup, and has been partying at a venture capitalist's place with his friends who work at Facebook and a co-founder of Youtube. And he says that he has not heard a single mention of the AC in his time in The City....

Duh...an Arab airline promoting something with "America" in the title? How do you think that would go down in certain parts of the world??

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Of for heaven's sake....this is the same airline that has in-flight movies like the old "Top Gun" parody "Hot Shots", that has a complete in-flight channel devoted to "American Sports", has coverage of the US Open Tennis, US Open Golf, Nascar, the Race Across America, lots of other US sports events and TV shows, and is showing "Olympus has fallen", a crappy-looking movie about the defence of that American icon, the White House, against a terrorist attack.

 

So what you are saying is that Emirates spent tens of millions on sponsoring an America's Cup team but then fail to promote that because the event has "America" in the name, despite the fact that lots of the other events they show mid-air are from the US and have "US" or "America" in their name. That's not exactly the most logical chain of thought.

 

I am puzzled by the reason they fail to promote ETNZ, but the facts show that they have no problem with the word "America".

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America's Cup: 'Dalton clause' warning over f-bomb tweet
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11125612

There was no real danger that Spithill would be officially sanctioned for the tweet, but he was advised by America's Cup Events Authority chief executive Stephen Barclay to remove the post.

 

So the piece actually says the headline is untrue. What a fine journal this is.

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I did hear that on breakfast TV in Australia a headline came on saying.
AUSTRALIA TAKE AMERICA"S CUP RACE WIN.

ROTFL

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I did hear that on breakfast TV in Australia a headline came on saying.

AUSTRALIA TAKE AMERICA"S CUP RACE WIN.

 

ROTFL

Well Australia does own Phar Lap and Russel Crowe.

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Of for heaven's sake....this is the same airline that has in-flight movies like the old "Top Gun" parody "Hot Shots", that has a complete in-flight channel devoted to "American Sports", has coverage of the US Open Tennis, US Open Golf, Nascar, the Race Across America, lots of other US sports events and TV shows, and is showing "Olympus has fallen", a crappy-looking movie about the defence of that American icon, the White House, against a terrorist attack.

 

So what you are saying is that Emirates spent tens of millions on sponsoring an America's Cup team but then fail to promote that because the event has "America" in the name, despite the fact that lots of the other events they show mid-air are from the US and have "US" or "America" in their name. That's not exactly the most logical chain of thought.

 

I am puzzled by the reason they fail to promote ETNZ, but the facts show that they have no problem with the word "America".

Did you see any channels showing news?

 

I would guess not....much of the in-flight entertainment is programmed by month, so you really don't see much current affairs type stuff. No doubt they will show the AmCup when it is wrapped up and made into a special....showing pieces in a news format that would be out of date within a day...not so much. Nothing really to do with the Americas Cup, it is basic approach to inflight entertainment. Sports tends to be last year's premier league, famous golf tournaments, extreme 40s, red bull dance offs, that sort of thing.

 

Up here in Thailand Amcup has been featured in multiple newspapers every day, at least as much coverage as the Mayweather Canelo fight , and appearing every day. We see daily ads from Omega talking about taking the cup to NZ.

 

Btw

Phar Lap: horse from NZ, name from Thai (means lightening in Thai), about as Aussie as Pavlova.

Russell Crowe: yeah, you can have him. And his phone :_)

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This is not in the news but shows how much care LE has towards one of his main sponsors.

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Here's the story:

 

The hatred and bitterness behind two of the world's most popular brands

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2013/03/22/the-hatred-and-bitterness-behind-two-of-the-worlds-most-popular-brands/

 

Adidas v Puma: the bitter rivalry that runs and runs

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/oct/19/rivalry-between-adidas-and-puma

 

Adidas versus Puma: Origins of a rivalry between brothers

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/business/worldbusiness/08iht-SHOES.html?_r=0

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Oracle Completes Voyage to History, Winning America’s Cup

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/sports/oracle-completes-voyage-to-history-to-win-americas-cup.html

 

Cheers, Hugs, Flags and Brooms Fill Victory Party at Unlikely Host Club

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/26/sports/cheers-hugs-flags-and-brooms-fill-americas-cup-victory-party-at-golden-gate-yacht-club.html

 

America's Cup return debate sets sail in S.F.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/America-s-Cup-return-debate-sets-sail-in-S-F-4853157.php

 

Larry Ellison glows under shine of America's Cup

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/26/us-sailing-americascup-ellison-idUSBRE98P03J20130926

 

America's Cup Created A Huge Amount Of Visibility For Oracle

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2013/09/27/americas-cup-created-a-huge-amount-of-visibility-for-oracle/

 

LARRY ELLISON’S YACHT PREOCCUPATION

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2013/09/larry-ellisons-yacht-preoccupation.html

 

High-tech hand behind tiller

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11134945

 

America's Cup: There was no secret weapon – Coutts

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11132657

 

Aussie challenge makes life tougher for Team NZ

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/sport/9230473/Aussie-challenge-makes-life-tougher-for-Team-NZ

 

An admirable effort

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/opinion/9229179/An-admirable-effort

 

America's Cup Challenger Will Emerge Soon, Though The Talks Began Long Ago

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/09/30/americas-cup-challenger-will-emerge-soon-though-the-talks-began-long-ago/

 

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I did hear that on breakfast TV in Australia a headline came on saying.

AUSTRALIA TAKE AMERICA"S CUP RACE WIN.

 

ROTFL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sailing/24274103

 

"America's Cup: Ben Ainslie's USA beat Team New Zealand in decider" Got to love the BBC!

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From the article -

"Bob Fisher's Young Australian challenge in Auckland in 2000 was never a real threat. It was what its name implied - a nursery for up and coming Aussie sailors."

 

Good on you Bob, I never realised you were behind the Young Australian challenge, I wonder whether Syd was aware of your contribution.

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United States Defeats New Zealand to Win America’s Cup After Stunning Comeback

Oracle Team USA has completed one of the greatest comebacks in sports history

http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2013/09/25/united-states-defeats-new-zealand-to-win-americas-cup-comeback/

 

Oracle Team USA Breathes Life Into America's Cup With Historic Comeback

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/oracle-comeback-americas-cup_n_4000072.html

 

America's Cup 2013: Ben Ainslie's exclusive diary on how he made history in San Francisco

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/10341592/Americas-Cup-2013-Ben-Ainslies-exclusive-diary-on-how-he-made-history-in-San-Francisco.html

 

America's Cup 2013: epic battle of the giants and compelling coverage revives the race

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/10335114/Americas-Cup-2013-epic-battle-of-the-giants-and-compelling-coverage-revives-the-race.html

 

Oracle reached the point of desperation, then changed course

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/oracle-reached-the-point-of-desperation-then-changed-course-20130928-2ul6h.html

 

The America's Cup: nerves, skill and a lot of computers

http://www.reseller.co.nz/article/527621/america_cup_nerves_skill_lot_computers/

 

Prepare to Win: America's Cup — A lesson on winning

http://www.vvdailypress.com/articles/america-42510-sat-cup.html

 

Oracle chief Larry Ellison breaks silence on America's Cup

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-larry-ellison-americas-cup-20130926,0,582933.story#axzz2gnDn2biv

 

Oracle Team USA finishes historic comeback to win America's Cup

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-americas-cup-final-20130925,0,5725886.story#axzz2fjUjNJqG

 

10 best New Zealand tweets after epic America's Cup fail

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-10-best-new-zealand-tweets-after-epic-americas-cup-collapse-20130925,0,7410677.story

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Sir Ben Ainslie: 'I’m not so stupid as to think I did it alone’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/ben-ainslie/10350353/Sir-Ben-Ainslie-Im-not-so-stupid-as-to-think-I-did-it-alone.html

 

America's Cup: Oracle's 'secret weapon' to pull off historic comeback was largely bluster

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_24185822/americas-cup-oracles-secret-weapon-pull-off-historic/

 

Purdy: America's Cup and the greatest comeback in sports history

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_24176171/purdy-americas-cup-and-greatest-comeback-sports-history

 

Russell Coutts on cutting costs, losing the lawyers and the future of the America’s Cup

http://www.sportspromedia.com/quick_fire_questions/russell_coutts_on_cutting_costs_losing_the_lawyers_and_the_future_of_the_am

 

After remarkable America's Cup, Jobson laments event's 'unfortunate' timing

http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77673342/

 

Exclusive Sir Ben Ainslie interview: What next for the America's Cup hero?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/sailing/exclusive-sir-ben-ainslie-interview-what-next-for-the-americas-cup-hero-8867468.html

 

Video: Oracle Team USA -- Oracle OpenWorld Keynote 9-26-2013

Features Tom Ehman, Simeon Tienpont, Rome Kirby, Shannon Falcone, and Ian ‘Fresh’ Burns

http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/2697810451001

 

Video: Larry Ellison -- Oracle OpenWorld Keynote 9-22-2013

Ellison pays tribute to the Oracle team, who sit in the front row

http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/2685494045001

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I think I want to hire you Kahlessa. If you have any free time, email me.

Will do. :)

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I think I want to hire you Kahlessa. If you have any free time, email me.

Will do. :)
Resist all requests for naked pictures.

 

He tried the same ploy with me.

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Oh for fuck's sake!

 

This chick obviously digs sailing even though IIRC she hasn't done much of it, and she's a hell of a reader, reviewer, and researcher. And I need lots of help doing PR and copywriting for events and classes all over the globe.

 

Easy match!

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thanks for that collection of video. Ms. Robertson did some outstanding on the spot reporting there.

 

Somebody needs to this material together into a documentary - it could be one of the best sailing productions ever.

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Don't have the link but someone posted on another thread from the Economist. "Babbage" writer is personal friend of Larry and watched the races with him.

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thanks for that collection of video. Ms. Robertson did some outstanding on the spot reporting there.

 

Somebody needs to this material together into a documentary - it could be one of the best sailing productions ever.

Maybe Clean should watch and learn how to get great access, ask good questions, GET OUT OF THE WAY, listen and get good answers.

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Well - you've got to wonder how much of it was Robertson and how much her producers. But it could very well be all her - given the obvious sailing insight involved.

 

But certainly she was backed by a first rate crew.

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PRESS RELEASE


Oct. 14, 2013, 2:13 p.m. EDT



Boeing, ORACLE TEAM USA Partner to Recycle Composites in America's Cup-Class Yacht

- 7,000 lbs. of composites to be recycled using techniques created for 787 Dreamliner - Use and recycling of composites reduces environmental footprint of aircraft, yachts







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SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 14, 2013 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Boeing BA +0.99% and ORACLE TEAM USA, winner of the 34th America's Cup, are collaborating to recycle 7,000 pounds (about 3,175 kilograms) of carbon fiber of USA-71, a yacht built for the America's Cup campaign in 2003. The hull and mast of the racing yacht will be processed and repurposed, a first-of-its-kind effort for what will likely be the largest carbon structure ever recycled.


Boeing and ORACLE TEAM USA, working with research partners, will utilize a technique developed to recycle composite materials from Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, which is 50 percent composite by weight and 20 percent more fuel-efficient than similarly sized aircraft. Composite materials allow a lighter, simpler structure, which increases efficiency, and do not fatigue or corrode. In yachts, composite construction also provides the ability to develop a lighter vessel that is stronger and stiffer at the same time.


"The introduction of composites in yacht construction was a major step in our sport. The materials and processes have continued to evolve, allowing us to build the high-tech, high-speed AC72 catamarans raced in this year's America's Cup," said Chris Sitzenstock, ORACLE TEAM USA logistics. "Now, we have the ability to work with Boeing to take the next steps in composite recycling, and to help reduce our environmental footprint. We will also look to recycle carbon components remaining from the build of our yachts."


"Boeing leads the commercial aviation industry in increasing the use and recycling of composites to improve aircraft fuel efficiency and reduce greenhouse gas emissions," said Billy Glover, Boeing Commercial Airplanes vice president of market strategy. "We are very pleased now to work with ORACLE TEAM USA, which transformed the science of sailing to win the America's Cup, to advance sustainability and the science of composite recycling."


Boeing and ORACLE TEAM USA will work with the University of Nottingham in the United Kingdom and MIT-RCF, a South Carolina company specializing in repurposing carbon fiber components. In 2006 Boeing began collaborating with the University of Nottingham on carbon fiber recycling and they continue to work on recycling processes and technology to process the recycled fiber into new applications.


USA-71's hull will be cut into 4-foot sections and the mast will be chopped into manageable pieces before it is processed; about 75 percent of the recycled composites will come from the hull and the remaining 25 percent from the mast.


Boeing and ORACLE TEAM USA expect to gather data about the mechanical properties, costs and time flows to recycle sailing-grade composite materials in comparison to aerospace-grade and automobile-grade composites. Although the companies have not determined the post-recycling use of the yacht's carbon fiber, potential end uses include consumer and industrial products.


Contact: Jessica KowalBoeing Commercial Airplanes Environment Communications+1 206-660-6849jessica.m.kowal@boeing.com


Lisa RamspergerORACLE TEAM USA Communications+1 415-539-6114LRamsperger@oracleteamusa.com


SOURCE Boeing


Copyright © 2013 PR Newswire. All rights reserved


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point loma



Maybe Clean should watch and learn how to get great access, ask good questions, GET OUT OF THE WAY, listen and get good answers.

You didn't like my interview with Jimmy?

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Awesome job, Surely...

But she missed a lot of the tactical moments that contributed to this. Mainstream TV, eh? Still good.

Nothing away from her and CNN....that's the important emotional side to this comeback/story.

But Clean asked the tough questions... and got some new insights.

Both must be a part of the defining documentary for this AC cycle....

Clean, gotta say mate... how could Jimmy (James) not give an A+ interview?

You did well...very well.

Thanks!

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'A Conversation With Ken Read'

http://www.sail-world.com/USA/The-Professional-part-one-of-a-conversation-with-Ken-Read/116088

 

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Do you still get to go sailing a lot in your new role as President?

My wife was kidding me the other day that she thinks I slept at home more when I was doing the Volvo than I do now that Im doing this job! Its a lot of travel. Obviously, the Americas Cup thing was a big deal for North Sails and the reason I did the Americas Cup broadcasting was to try to make sure just through association that the world realized North Sails had as much to do with this Americas Cup as possibly any other Americas Cup in history. We didnt make as many sails, but we made every single sail for every single boat. We made wings for [Luna Rossa Challenge] and for Emirates Team New Zealand.

 

We had our smartest guys in the company involved with the wings and the wing technology. Our Design Services guys were all into the aero-side of these programs. Our Thin Ply Technology part of North Technology Group, which is a carbon-fiber company, made parts and pieces for the wings. EC6 Rigging did all kinds of carbon standing rigging for the boats.

 

I hope that the NBC broadcasts were a direct reflection on how important North Sails [thinks] the Americas Cup is to our sport.

 

Please stay tuned for Parts Two and Three of this interview series.

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Good article by Read - looking forward to parts 2 and 3.

 

Great commentator as well -

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'A Conversation With Ken Read'

http://www.sail-world.com/USA/The-Professional-part-one-of-a-conversation-with-Ken-Read/116088

 

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Do you still get to go sailing a lot in your new role as President?

My wife was kidding me the other day that she thinks I slept at home more when I was doing the Volvo than I do now that Im doing this job! Its a lot of travel. Obviously, the Americas Cup thing was a big deal for North Sails and the reason I did the Americas Cup broadcasting was to try to make sure just through association that the world realized North Sails had as much to do with this Americas Cup as possibly any other Americas Cup in history. We didnt make as many sails, but we made every single sail for every single boat. We made wings for [Luna Rossa Challenge] and for Emirates Team New Zealand.

 

We had our smartest guys in the company involved with the wings and the wing technology. Our Design Services guys were all into the aero-side of these programs. Our Thin Ply Technology part of North Technology Group, which is a carbon-fiber company, made parts and pieces for the wings. EC6 Rigging did all kinds of carbon standing rigging for the boats.

 

I hope that the NBC broadcasts were a direct reflection on how important North Sails [thinks] the Americas Cup is to our sport.

 

Please stay tuned for Parts Two and Three of this interview series.

What happened to Gary W?

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Herbie Lester is going to explain the technical aspects of the boats. Hehe.

Yeah, that should be good!

 

Wrt "As well as the technical detail, Lester will shed light on the heated debates that surrounded the event, and the personalities involved" maybe he will get into how hot that Jewish woman was?

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closure

http://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

 

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

 

The hell with that, what about this about the AC45 rule infringements ?

 

"[Oracle] has come out now and said it was a strategy to try and derail the New Zealanders. I don’t think it did by any means.”

 

Who from Oracle said this ? Is he really serious or Dana's close relative ?

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Herbie Lester is going to explain the technical aspects of the boats. Hehe.

Yeah, that should be good!

 

Wrt "As well as the technical detail, Lester will shed light on the heated debates that surrounded the event, and the personalities involved" maybe he will get into how hot that Jewish woman was?

 

Which Jewish woman was this ? grumpy's little fling in the sheets ?

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^ Was from a funny line by Tasker, when he was yakking with Lester about their apparently hard-drinking night before, during a commentary break when both figured they were off the air but somehow weren't. Tasker said "I really should do that Jewish woman" - pretty funny.

 

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Oracle cup firm cuts workers

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Herbie Lester is going to explain the technical aspects of the boats. Hehe.

Yeah, that should be good!

 

Wrt "As well as the technical detail, Lester will shed light on the heated debates that surrounded the event, and the personalities involved" maybe he will get into how hot that Jewish woman was?

Which Jewish woman was this ? grumpy's little fling in the sheets ?

There is a video posted somewhere of that segment but a quick search didn't locate it. This piece, also posted before, is quite funny though:

http://craccum.ausa.auckland.ac.nz/?p=4013

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Herbie Lester is going to explain the technical aspects of the boats. Hehe.

Yeah, that should be good!

 

Wrt "As well as the technical detail, Lester will shed light on the heated debates that surrounded the event, and the personalities involved" maybe he will get into how hot that Jewish woman was?

Which Jewish woman was this ? grumpy's little fling in the sheets ?

There is a video posted somewhere of that segment but a quick search didn't locate it. This piece, also posted before, is quite funny though:

http://craccum.ausa.auckland.ac.nz/?p=4013

" It was a nice day. Perhaps it would all be over soon - he dragged himself into something like a good mood. But then Oracle won the start and Martin once again became sulky and miserable. It was tense. Were we about to witness a full-blown psychotic episode? It was almost unbearable."

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

 

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

 

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

 

That was a great line - it was actually; "Imagine if these guys lost from here. What an upset that would be."

 

The tone was stronger than the words themselves, as if to say, "what do you think about that, Dean?"

 

Probably one of the best comments of the whole cup.

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

Funny how people read a situation. My take on that was Barker second glanced jimmy with a look, of complete arrogance and ignorance and barker thought there was no way Oracle could come back.

 

That's why Barker always had the same stupid reply at each presser... that reply of "we will be OK and one win will come before ORacle get 8.

 

barker and Dalton were not smart enough to see the threat of Oracles changes thus they never adapted nor changed a thing.

 

The ignorance and lack of clear strategy from the ETNZ management was gob smacking. They had just seen Oracles management (spit hill and Coutts) call a lay day and re group. They saw a aftergaurd change and a boat go imto the shed for tweaking. They saw a response, yet they never responded when the tide turned.

 

Then when ETNZ had to respond to a boat that had better speed and tactics all they did was ....

 

nothing!... the leadership was found to be asleep at the wheel.

 

Barker and Dalton's management of the situation was pathetic compared to Jimmy's and Russ's.

 

Men versus boys!.

 

... now we wait for Lifebouy 15,s inane trolling to this... just watch...

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

 

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

 

That was a great line - it was actually; "Imagine if these guys lost from here. What an upset that would be."

 

The tone was stronger than the words themselves, as if to say, "what do you think about that, Dean?"

 

Probably one of the best comments of the whole cup.

 

From memory, that line was at the presser after ETNZ went up 6 to -1 (see 21:20 of the Day 4 presser below). As this was before OR started improving, it could have just been a brash call. That said, Spithill said a lot of similar lines thoughout the cup, so he may have made the same comment when the score was 8 to 1.

 

 

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^ Was from a funny line by Tasker, when he was yakking with Lester about their apparently hard-drinking night before, during a commentary break when both figured they were off the air but somehow weren't. Tasker said "I really should do that Jewish woman" - pretty funny.

 

 

It was Tasker telling Lester that he needed to do an interview with an Israeli Olympic boardsailor.

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^ If you watch the clip you reach a much different conclusion about what he meant, from the context and from the response by Lester.

 

Elsewhere in the news (similar subject) was a piece about how Dean Barker's popularity among NZ women is suddenly so big. They say they like that "he can be on top for a month and still not come first."

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Women also have a soft spot for men who can cry in public.

 

 

^ If you watch the clip you reach a much different conclusion about what he meant, from the context and from the response by Lester.

Elsewhere in the news (similar subject) was a piece about how Dean Barker's popularity among NZ women is suddenly so big. They say they like that "he can be on top for a month and still not come first."

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Bit off topic, or maybe on another thread, but wonder if he might be keeping an eye on BA's potential entry. They got on extremely well, JS calling him "gov' during one upwind leg. Be potent combination with matching philosophies: aggressive- calculating etc.

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My take on that was Barker second glanced jimmy with a look, of complete arrogance and ignorance and barker thought there was no way Oracle could come back.

 

That's why Barker always had the same stupid reply at each presser... that reply of "we will be OK and one win will come before ORacle get 8.

 

barker and Dalton were not smart enough to see the threat of Oracles changes thus they never adapted nor changed a thing.

 

The ignorance and lack of clear strategy from the ETNZ management was gob smacking. They had just seen Oracles management (spit hill and Coutts) call a lay day and re group. They saw a aftergaurd change and a boat go imto the shed for tweaking. They saw a response, yet they never responded when the tide turned.

 

Then when ETNZ had to respond to a boat that had better speed and tactics all they did was ....

 

nothing!... the leadership was found to be asleep at the wheel.

 

Barker and Dalton's management of the situation was pathetic compared to Jimmy's and Russ's.

 

Men versus boys!.

^^ So, you make your own assumptions without knowing shit, and after you make your own deductions? Assuming makes an ass of you, not me.

Bite now :P

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My take on that was Barker second glanced jimmy with a look, of complete arrogance and ignorance and barker thought there was no way Oracle could come back.

 

That's why Barker always had the same stupid reply at each presser... that reply of "we will be OK and one win will come before ORacle get 8.

 

barker and Dalton were not smart enough to see the threat of Oracles changes thus they never adapted nor changed a thing.

 

The ignorance and lack of clear strategy from the ETNZ management was gob smacking. They had just seen Oracles management (spit hill and Coutts) call a lay day and re group. They saw a aftergaurd change and a boat go imto the shed for tweaking. They saw a response, yet they never responded when the tide turned.

 

Then when ETNZ had to respond to a boat that had better speed and tactics all they did was ....

 

nothing!... the leadership was found to be asleep at the wheel.

 

Barker and Dalton's management of the situation was pathetic compared to Jimmy's and Russ's.

 

Men versus boys!.

^^ So, you make your own assumptions without knowing shit, and after you make your own deductions? Assuming makes an ass of you, not me.

Bite now :P

 

He knows what the races dictated from having watched them.

 

Whether or not you agree is immaterial, like it or not, because as a troll you rarely do anyway :)

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

 

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

That was a great line - it was actually; "Imagine if these guys lost from here. What an upset that would be."

 

The tone was stronger than the words themselves, as if to say, "what do you think about that, Dean?"

 

Probably one of the best comments of the whole cup.

That would make for a good tee shirt for the next go around :)

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Herbie Lester to speak..

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Cup debrief offers closurehttp://www.times.co.nz/sports-news/cup-debrief-offers-closure.html

The behaviour of Spithill was pretty appalling really."

It was appalling: beating the Kiwis from 8-1 down and making Dean Barker cry. Spithill should have rolled over and died so the Kiwis could get their precious cup back.
The most precocious that JS got in a presser was when, down 1 - 8, he said something like "Imagine if we can come back from this and beat them? I want to be part if that!"

SWS commented earlier about that moment and it's true. That statement got a sharp, sudden head turning reaction from Dean Barker. DB understood right then that it was personal, and it was the about last thing he wanted to hear said out loud.

That was a great line - it was actually; "Imagine if these guys lost from here. What an upset that would be."

 

The tone was stronger than the words themselves, as if to say, "what do you think about that, Dean?"

 

Probably one of the best comments of the whole cup.

That would make for a good tee shirt for the next go around :)

 

And you will see a T-shirt that says that :)

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My take on that was Barker second glanced jimmy with a look, of complete arrogance and ignorance and barker thought there was no way Oracle could come back.

 

That's why Barker always had the same stupid reply at each presser... that reply of "we will be OK and one win will come before ORacle get 8.

 

barker and Dalton were not smart enough to see the threat of Oracles changes thus they never adapted nor changed a thing.

 

The ignorance and lack of clear strategy from the ETNZ management was gob smacking. They had just seen Oracles management (spit hill and Coutts) call a lay day and re group. They saw a aftergaurd change and a boat go imto the shed for tweaking. They saw a response, yet they never responded when the tide turned.

 

Then when ETNZ had to respond to a boat that had better speed and tactics all they did was ....

 

nothing!... the leadership was found to be asleep at the wheel.

 

Barker and Dalton's management of the situation was pathetic compared to Jimmy's and Russ's.

 

Men versus boys!.

^^ So, you make your own assumptions without knowing shit, and after you make your own deductions? Assuming makes an ass of you, not me.

Bite now :P

 

He knows what the races dictated from having watched them.

:lol:

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^ Interesting article. Thanks for posting, Stingray. I also like the quote:

 

'While he hadn't caught up with Barker since the regatta, he hoped to over the next couple of days to "go for a beer up the road and catch up".'

 

I believe JS has a house in Auckland (on the same street as DB). Anyone know how much time he spends there?

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One of the more interesting things in NZ is that Oracle through Spithall (breakfast TV last week) and Coutts interviews and appearances is doing a great job in the press. (Coutts at the NZ Yachtsman of the Year awards last night) I think that Oracle have done a great PR job. Apart from Barker looking sad on TV (2 months ago?) nothing from (E) TNZ? other than to hear that Dalt's maybe close to signing a Volvo team (using the $5 mill for gaining AC sponsorship) from the Costa del Plenty Club.

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One of the more interesting things in NZ is that Oracle through Spithall (breakfast TV last week) and Coutts interviews and appearances is doing a great job in the press. (Coutts at the NZ Yachtsman of the Year awards last night) I think that Oracle have done a great PR job. Apart from Barker looking sad on TV (2 months ago?) nothing from (E) TNZ? other than to hear that Dalt's maybe close to signing a Volvo team (using the $5 mill for gaining AC sponsorship) from the Costa del Plenty Club.

What do you mean? Bean Darker has done the walk of shame in a chokers parade and then had the cheek to put his name forward for another go!....

 

Also he offered this limp wristed apology...

http://tvnz.co.nz/americas-cup-video/barker-we-let-nz-down-5591813

 

And they are probably paying him to do nothing. I would value him more if he grew some nads and went offshore and sailed for another team! But nobody wants a award losing choker.

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