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tomcheney

J/122 Evolution

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Looks like there's a slight refresh of the J/122 coming, called the "J/122 Evolution". Think it's the same hull but prettier. Deputing at Le Grand Pavois this month.

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The look of the J/122 has been transformed, with new coachroof windows in line with those on the new J/88, along with the addition of hull windows, the first J Boat to display this most welcome feature. Below decks the living space has also been transformed, with the large galley and saloon finished in a combination of a modern oak and white lacquered finish, with a corian worktop.

 

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Have heard rumors of a 40 foot version of the J/111 for a while. Will be interesting to see if this update changes the performance numbers on the boat as well?

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Too many sharp edges. No good offshore. Also... frosted glass? With the windows (which do help with light) it seems like it's trying to be a Dufour or Grand Soleil. Assuming it's coming out of the 122 molds at J/Europe?

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Looks like the IKEA special edition. You save money putting the interior in yourself. The real bonus though is the Swedish meatball buffet at the dealer!

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IMHO deck prisms should be used if additional illumination is required below instead of hull ports so the 122 can retain its distinct J boat hull profile. Also the forward most rectangular cabin port seems "a bit odd" placed in front of the more "aggressive" looking large port light. Perhaps, a longer "aggressive" port split light combination might work [a long rectangular large section aft with a narrow divider and then the "aggressive section" forward.

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That interior shot doesn't seem to agree with the exterior picture. The interior shot seems to show two hull windows on each side whereas the exterior picture shows only one.

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Screw deck prisms. Fixed hull ports are the way to go. It's not always about illumination, but rather the quality of the view when you are hanging down below. I would have preferred the eyebrow windows a'la Beneteau First series, rather than the boxy windows for the new J.

 

But, looking forward to the pics, as I'm considering the 122.

 

Pics... pics.... pics....

 

DG

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Key Yachting in the UK has one pic on their Facebook page and 2 different port light configurations on their J/122 illustrations page on their website

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Talked to Jeff J at the boat show. He said they would probably give the customer a choice of interior/cabintop layout. It all would depend on demand.

I think it would probably pretty easy seeing they have the tooling for both.
The IRC rating may change only slightly because of the weight. I have the 2 head version (more weight) mine is the same.

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Meh....
Ikea was the designer... maybe.
I'm not at the show, but this is what I saw on one of the websites. I'm sure a little customizing could be had....
DG

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I stand by what I said about not liking all of the sharp edges on things. Definitely looks like J/Boats collaborated with Ikea on the interior.

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I'm a junior partner in a group within days of pulling the trigger on one... Have all quotes in for sails, electronics etc. and this is the first we had seen of the new interior. Where to sleep off watch? Where to grab below? Does that glass backsplash make it through the first night offshore?

 

Conference call this evening to explore other options...

 

bleh

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i doubt the backsplash is glass...

 

and in any case, it's not even present in the photos

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The backsplash is easily seen on the Jcomposites interior photos. My guess is its 3/8" thick acrylic. My general concern would be all the sharp right angles on the joiner work making themselves known, particularly in rough seas.

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I'm a junior partner in a group within days of pulling the trigger on one... Have all quotes in for sails, electronics etc. and this is the first we had seen of the new interior. Where to sleep off watch? Where to grab below? Does that glass backsplash make it through the first night offshore?

 

Conference call this evening to explore other options...

 

bleh

The old style interior is still available. You do not have to go with the E style.

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I'm a junior partner in a group within days of pulling the trigger on one... Have all quotes in for sails, electronics etc. and this is the first we had seen of the new interior. Where to sleep off watch? Where to grab below? Does that glass backsplash make it through the first night offshore?

 

Conference call this evening to explore other options...

 

bleh

The old style interior is still available. You do not have to go with the E style.

 

Yes, I think the biggest question we are waiting to hear about is whether pipe berths can be accommodated above the settee without messing up the whole cool euro vibe going on...

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I tend to be overly awed by a sleek cool interior but those sharp corners concerned me as well. I've always thought J put function ahead of fashion, but this looks like that fashionistas got the upper hand.

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There was a 122 at the paris boat show. I didn't notice if it was the refreshed model or not

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