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<sigh> I meant the idea of winning the Cup and bringing it to one's home waters would seem to be out of fashion ..

I don't think it's that old fashioned. There are more than a handful of Kiwis who would like to see the Cup returned to home waters.
England?

 

Oh, wait.. :)

Ha, ha. I don't think there are too many Kiwis who still consider England home.

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^ yes, it would surely be Blasphemy were NZ to hold it anywhere else, a treason to even suggest it.

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CJ is a cool signup, I could even see the possibility of him on the helm given how damn effective BA was as tactician during AC34.

 

Am happy for Michel Marie too, have met him and he's good value.

 

Don't know much about the design team additions, Bishop and Mignard; anyone?

 

the link again: http://benainslieracing.com/2014/07/ben-ainslie-racing-strengthen-british-americas-cup-challenge/

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CJ is a cool signup, I could even see the possibility of him on the helm given how damn effective BA was as tactician during AC34.

 

Am happy for Michel Marie too, have met him and he's good value.

 

Don't know much about the design team additions, Bishop and Mignard; anyone?

 

the link again: http://benainslieracing.com/2014/07/ben-ainslie-racing-strengthen-british-americas-cup-challenge/

Na, Ben will be helming...are you really think Ben isn't going to helm his own boat?

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Did Lord Nelson?

Bit tricky with one arm and one eye, no?

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... BARs bid to bring the Cup back home to British waters.

Uh? That's so passé ..

 

Don't start confusing GGYC with the RYS.

 

Anyway we like it when Aussies and Americans come to sail in our cold and murky water. How they whinge. It's fun.

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... BARs bid to bring the Cup back home to British waters.

Uh? That's so passé ..

 

 

remind me again when it was last in British waters?

Well if RC gets his way, they'll be back in British waters in 2017, no need for BA to even win it!!

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^ yes, it would surely be Blasphemy were NZ to hold it anywhere else, a treason to even suggest it.

 

Yeah, and?

 

Of course if it were to go down under and then not be held precisely 4 years after it was won, those stuck in their northern hemisphere 'white christmas thinking' will whinge all over again.....

 

3½ years; "pushed forward to gain an advantage!", 4½ years; "incompetence and a complete inability to get anything organised!" Duh!

 

The DOG rules.

 

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“We have made a good start but part of the reason for the meetings we are having with the other challengers and the defender is to nail down the details we all need to make presentations and negotiate with potential sponsors we are engaging with,” he said. “Without the detail it is very difficult to raise the money. But we are warming lots of companies up and getting a positive reception and between now and Christmas we will be ramping up those efforts.”

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“We have made a good start but part of the reason for the meetings we are having with the other challengers and the defender is to nail down the details we all need to make presentations and negotiate with potential sponsors we are engaging with,” he said. “Without the detail it is very difficult to raise the money. But we are warming lots of companies up and getting a positive reception and between now and Christmas we will be ramping up those efforts.”

So, despite all the, 'let's co-operate, to ensure commercial sustainability' bullshit, teams still need the venue confirmed, before sponsorship dollars flow. Wow, what a surprise. Sounds like TNZ missed only another pointless talk-fest.

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^ I think I'm in love with that boat.

 

JPM is a sponsor in this weekend's Seattle SeaFair Hydroplane racing. Nice to see, think it's their first year supporting it.

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Bomb scare hits Ben Ainslie’s America’s Cup project

12 August, 2014 | By Will Mann

The discovery of a World War Two bomb has halted construction on the foundations of yachstman Ben Ainslie’s America’s Cup headquarters in Portsmouth.

The device was found yesterday afternoon at Camber Dock during site investigation work ahead of piling.

The shell was discovered under an existing concrete floor slab.

http://www.nce.co.uk/bomb-scare-hits-ben-ainslies-americas-cup-project/8668241.article

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Strange article with all the amounts blacked out or censored... I suppose that info is only for subscribers?

 

Anyway, probably not so good news for BAR - if they had known earlier, it would have been published sooner. Having your title sponser quit at this stage doesn't bode well...

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It is understood that New York-based JP Morgan, which has been the title sponsor of Ainslie personally since 2007, and the main global partner of BAR since the team’s launch in January 2012, feels an alignment with a British team against American competitors would not match its brand image.

 

I suggested that 6 months ago and you told me I was an idiot and JP Morgan was a shoe-in.

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Say it ain't so....and you telling us for a year it's a done deal.....

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It is understood that New York-based JP Morgan, which has been the title sponsor of Ainslie personally since 2007, and the main global partner of BAR since the team’s launch in January 2012, feels an alignment with a British team against American competitors would not match its brand image.

 

I suggested that 6 months ago and you told me I was an idiot and JP Morgan was a shoe-in.

 

Only the least knowledgeable would have ever thought it possible.

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If i remember correctly JP morgan said this months ago.....

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"The Ben Ainslie Racing (BAR) sailing team will look for a new title sponsor for its inaugural 2017 America’s Cup campaign after the incumbent, financial services company JP Morgan, decided not to continue past 2014."

 

The article doesn't say when JPM made the decision.

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"...an alignment with a British team against American competitors would not match its brand image." (jpmc)

 

Ha, er, what exactly are they worried about? A tea party in boston harbor? They don't want to seem too closely aligned with the crown?

 

Pssst...it's about the money. Bankers know the value of a dollar, and they would rather steal it (money) than spend it.

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It is understood that New York-based JP Morgan, which has been the title sponsor of Ainslie personally since 2007, and the main global partner of BAR since the team’s launch in January 2012, feels an alignment with a British team against American competitors would not match its brand image.

 

I suggested that 6 months ago and you told me I was an idiot and JP Morgan was a shoe-in.

 

Only the least knowledgeable would have ever thought it possible.

How true! No way was JPM prepared to spend cubic dollars on something they've seen flounder for the past three cycles, not to mention ROI issues....

 

They like sailing, small, inexpensive sailing...or a little tie-in to the team (like they had with ORTUSA in AC33) to schmooze a few HNW individuals. That's hundred's of thousands, not tens of millions...

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Really bad timing , bad luck or just a dumb ass take your pick .

 

Buying a million dollar plus boat while going around town with your hand out to drum up funds for your upcomming AC fun and games was not the smartest move you could make .

 

Did this have anything to do with JPM pulling the plug ?

 

With BAR losing their title sponsor at this stage we should include them on the endangered list alomg with the French .

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Old news. JPM have been saying this for some time now. Are they on the endangered list? If they host it in Bermuda then yes and if not they will be there with a fully funded campaign.

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Excerpt from Stuart A

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/sailing/americas-cup-2017-challengers-announced-for-the-auld-mug-9684288.html

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But Bens principal sponsor J.P.Morgan has said it is ending its support this year, perhaps influenced by the problem of being an American bank having to explain to its American customers and others why it is supporting a foreign team whose sole aim is to beat the Americans. The original John Pierpont Morgan was commodore of the New York Yacht Club and a member of several successful Americas Cup defence syndicates.

That need not be a problem. BAR has known of the need to find new backing for some time and its connections are both extensive and powerful. It says it expects to have a new title sponsor in place from January onwards.

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British Challenge accepted for the 35th America’s Cup

 

20th August 2014: Royal Yacht Squadron Racing (RYSR) has had its challenge accepted by the America’s Cup defender, the Golden Gate Yacht Club of San Francisco. RYSR is the affiliate club of the Royal Yacht Squadron and the challenging club for Ben Ainslie Racing (BAR), now the official British entry for the 35th America’s Cup in 2017.
The Golden Gate Yacht Club (GGYC), having won the 34th America’s Cup, holds the America’s Cup in accordance with the terms of a Deed of Gift dated 24 October 1887 and will be hosting the event in three years’ time, although the location is yet to be confirmed, being either San Diego or Bermuda. RYSR submitted its Notice of Challenge to the GGYC during the two-month open entry period which closed on Friday 8th August.
The entry has now been formally accepted. Each team that challenges for the America’s Cup is required to do so through a host club. The America’s Cup started its long history at the Royal Yacht Squadron when the schooner America beat a fleet of British racing yachts to the finish line there on 22 August 1851, watched by Queen Victoria.
“We are delighted that Ben Ainslie Racing, led by Sir Ben, has asked Royal Yacht Squadron Racing to challenge on his behalf and are sure that, if anyone can bring the Cup back to its original home, he and his excellent BAR team can,” commented Simon van der Byl, CEO of RYSR

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fun article

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Ben Ainslie says Extreme Series is perfect for auditioning America's Cup crew members

Britain's 2012 Olympic Games gold medallist says sailing's version of 'dodgems' provides the ideal testing ground

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/11057578/Ben-Ainslie-says-Extreme-Series-is-perfect-for-auditioning-Americas-Cup-crew-members.html

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fun article

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Ben Ainslie says Extreme Series is perfect for auditioning America's Cup crew members

Britain's 2012 Olympic Games gold medallist says sailing's version of 'dodgems' provides the ideal testing ground

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/11057578/Ben-Ainslie-says-Extreme-Series-is-perfect-for-auditioning-Americas-Cup-crew-members.html

Hard to imagine that not so long ago, you and your west coast bros were happy that Russell's world super league of the world was trying to drive the ESS out of existence by stepping on it's dates, so the teams would have to join the acwsl.... won by your cheating heros....

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ACWS has never tried to drive the ESS out of business by stomping on their dates, that idea is a figment of too-fertile imaginations from you and your elk. ESS's Mark Turner was already asked about it and spoke extensively to that fact.

 

Where there is possible hypocrisy is in admiring the 'Formula 1' and short-races and stadium races and sponsor-oriented and venue-paying nature of the series; while criticizing the ACWS or any other pro series for also having those factors at play.

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ACWS has never tried to drive the ESS out of business by stomping on their dates, that idea is a figment of too-fertile imaginations from you and your elk. ESS's Mark Turner was already asked about it and spoke extensively to that fact.

Where there is possible hypocrisy is in admiring the 'Formula 1' and short-races and stadium races and sponsor-oriented and venue-paying nature of the series; while criticizing the ACWS or any other pro series for also having those factors at play.

So you are saying that teams that had an entry in both series didn't have to send out two crews on the same weekend?

MT was very diplomatic in his answers about Coutts wsl series, but it did happen..

As for F1 in either series....it's only in your dreams ....and the hypocrisy is in comparing a series that stands on it's merit, pays it's bills and keeps it's competitors happy vs a forced 1M boat in a series that couldn't get venues, that lost incredible amounts of money which was covered by the money in lazzas trousers, whose team cheated to win it....

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

When you run out of spin....go for the elk....

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Where there is possible hypocrisy is in admiring the 'Formula 1' and short-races and stadium races and sponsor-oriented and venue-paying nature of the series; while criticizing the ACWS or any other pro series for also having those factors at play.

ESS pays its way. It's a long-term financially viable proposition. Cities are prepared to pay what's needed to cover the cost of running events. Team can demonstrate sponsor value sufficient to pay for the game. That, in sailing, is hard to achieve and something to respect. Compare and contrast with ACWS, which does none of that. It is just a pimple on the bum of the AC.

 

As far as the sailing is concerned, I'm not very interested in either of them.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

 

That's at least three times now SR - take the hint, look it it up!

 

Hint: Elk - innocent quadrupeds

 

Your ilk - Swallower and similar West Coast nasties

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good. Then all they'd need is a billionaire to pay for the youtube coverage.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good. Then all they'd need is a billionaire to pay for the youtube coverage.
What I'd most like to see in the ACWS is not just wing-sailed, foiling cats but ones with a more open development rule. We'll already have AC team sailors in it racing minimally AC-style boats but adding a development component would also bring in a touch of the AC designers to the game. It would make that series all the more relevant to the AC event that the series leads up to and make the spectating richer for being extra AC relevant.

 

And I'm fine with $B's paying for it, and/or some mix of sponsors added in. Like with venue fees, hotel arrangements, yadda yadda, it costs me nothing at all. There's nothing outrageous in any of that.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

That's at least three times now SR - take the hint, look it it up!

 

Hint: Elk - innocent quadrupeds

 

Your ilk - Swallower and similar West Coast nasties

Easy there, Nav. The whole "you and your elk" thing is a long running joke on SA.

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^^

 

Let's not split hares, nav: it's SA insider lingo

 

Splitting Hares sounds a lot more grotesque than splitting hairs...or is that another SA insider thing? (...poor little bunnies...)

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

 

That's at least three times now SR - take the hint, look it it up!

 

Hint: Elk - innocent quadrupeds

 

Your ilk - Swallower and similar West Coast nasties

 

Let the hate flow nav - you'll be better soon.

 

On second thought...

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good. Then all they'd need is a billionaire to pay for the youtube coverage.
What I'd most like to see in the ACWS is not just wing-sailed, foiling cats but ones with a more open development rule. We'll already have AC team sailors in it racing minimally AC-style boats but adding a development component would also bring in a touch of the AC designers to the game. It would make that series all the more relevant to the AC event that the series leads up to and make the spectating richer for being extra AC relevant.

 

And I'm fine with $B's paying for it, and/or some mix of sponsors added in. Like with venue fees, hotel arrangements, yadda yadda, it costs me nothing at all. There's nothing outrageous in any of that.

Heck, Why don't we get $100k together for 4 drones, and an open invitation to the A-Class fleet?

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good.

+ 1

The ESS had or has, the opportunity to propose a foiling cat with reefable soft sails that could race in a wider range of conditions than the AC45. It could be a hit for sponsors.

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A TV production so good that it gets you wet would help that series too. The video was pretty crude again in Cardiff but those two announcers were very good.

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again, from www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/sailing/11057578/Ben-Ainslie-says-Extreme-Series-is-perfect-for-auditioning-Americas-Cup-crew-members.html

 

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"Although the boats are different, this is part of process for skilling up to the America's Cup," he said of his all-British crew. "We've brought in sailors we are looking to use in that. In terms of keeping race sharp, it's important to stay out there and keep racing."

 

He was not the only one who viewed it thus. Two of the rival America's Cup skippers announced last week were out in Cardiff's waters, Franck Cammas and Morgan Larson both leading boats in the flotilla. And there were plenty of others in action in Extreme racing who will be involved when the world's most exclusive yacht race gears up again.

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^ hmm, a mistake putting Larson in there, or a new revelation? They must surely have meant Barker.

 

Larson does look good though, as does of course Leigh McM. Would not surprise me if either are singed, or will be soon.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good. Then all they'd need is a billionaire to pay for the youtube coverage.
What I'd most like to see in the ACWS is not just wing-sailed, foiling cats but ones with a more open development rule. We'll already have AC team sailors in it racing minimally AC-style boats but adding a development component would also bring in a touch of the AC designers to the game. It would make that series all the more relevant to the AC event that the series leads up to and make the spectating richer for being extra AC relevant.

 

And I'm fine with $B's paying for it, and/or some mix of sponsors added in. Like with venue fees, hotel arrangements, yadda yadda, it costs me nothing at all. There's nothing outrageous in any of that.

if we believe that the AC45 will be used as a test platform for the AC62 - then this makes perfect sense.

 

To develop a one-design foiling AC45 should be useful in terms of sailing skills - but perhaps not AC62 development. At least not much.

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I'm convinced that HIYC is who pressed for OD, non-foiling AC45's, out of their their cost-cutting zeal. And am convinced that it will be an agreed, coming change.

 

Some posters have suggested that a reason, besides maybe money, for teams wanting to stick to the AC45's as they are might be for reasons that involve hiding what tricks they have up their design sleeves. And a reluctance to be pressured by the pursuit of ACWS points to reveal the best ideas they've got at the time. But my guess, okay hope, is that they'd agree racing in evolving foilers despite that supposed reluctance because the learning curve will continue deep into racing the AC62's regardless; even, again, during the Match.

 

And if developments during an evolutionary foiling AC45 ACWS did make the technologies converge to be more highly competitive once the AC62's hit the track, well that's mostly good for the competition come the end-game too.

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If you like the ESS but not the ACWS, well then that should be the big clue as to what you and your elk should focus on, exclusively.

Let's be honest now - if the ESS didn't have ancient obsolete boats but instead had foiling cats, the spectating would be just as good. Then all they'd need is a billionaire to pay for the youtube coverage.
What I'd most like to see in the ACWS is not just wing-sailed, foiling cats but ones with a more open development rule. We'll already have AC team sailors in it racing minimally AC-style boats but adding a development component would also bring in a touch of the AC designers to the game. It would make that series all the more relevant to the AC event that the series leads up to and make the spectating richer for being extra AC relevant.

 

And I'm fine with $B's paying for it, and/or some mix of sponsors added in. Like with venue fees, hotel arrangements, yadda yadda, it costs me nothing at all. There's nothing outrageous in any of that.

Heck, Why don't we get $100k together for 4 drones, and an open invitation to the A-Class fleet?

 

Not quick enough, and I know exactly what you can accomplish with 100k and 4 drones, and it's barely a head start.

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Lloyd's underwriters eye America's Cup

Thu 28 Aug 2014

Latest News

 

A British team led by Olympian Sir Ben Ainslie is on course to challenge for The Americas Cup, one of the worlds toughest sailing events, a process that will require first rate risk management and insurance.

 

http://m.lloyds.com/news/market-news/industry-news-2014/lloyds-underwriters-eye-americas-cup?redirected=true

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Hey Brad, polish up your CV:

 

BAR Racing

 

We are looking to appoint a Base Team Administrator to support the project team in building the new Team HQ in Portsmouth - if you think it might be your kind of thing, check out the job specification:http://bit.ly/1tbzyDM

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Hey Brad, polish up your CV:

Hey Barny, I will as soon as you blow me :)

Ask Aldo, she loves spoog on her face.

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Hey Brad, polish up your CV:

Hey Barny, I will as soon as you blow me :)

Ask Aldo, she loves spoog on her face.

What does that translate to in English ?

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Hey Brad, polish up your CV:

Hey Barny, I will as soon as you blow me :)

Ask Aldo, she loves spoog on her face.

What does that translate to in English ?

Ask Aldo.

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Hey Brad, polish up your CV:

Hey Barny, I will as soon as you blow me :)

Ask Aldo, she loves spoog on her face.

What does that translate to in English ?

Ask Aldo.

Can't expect him to translate your frog gibberish now can we ?

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Hey Barny, I will as soon as you blow me :)

Ask Aldo, she loves spoog on her face.

What does that translate to in English ?

Ask Aldo.

Can't expect him to translate your frog gibberish now can we ?

:D

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Dear SW Sailor

 

Not really into that type of stuff myself. But, whatever floats your boat!

 

There are actually other forums on the interweb where you can hook up to that stuff, and take out some of your frustrations. Maybe someone here can point you in the right direction.

 

B

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Dear SW Sailor

 

There are actually other forums on the interweb where you can hook up to that stuff,

 

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Sounds like the voice of experience.

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Ben Ainslie Racing

 

 

A couple of new aerial images of the work on the Portsmouth base -- many thanks to Shaun Roster -- with 69 out of 210 piles already in place. Next week they will also start on the 'pile cap' construction, which casts a reinforced concrete block over a group of piles. It has bolts cast into the top surface which are used to connect the steel structure to the foundations.

 

 

 

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That could be a very nice base but, even though it's soft-shelled, the Luna Rossa setup in Cagliari gets my two thumbs up for spectacular scenery, climate, and sailing conditions.

 

One encouraging thing about this bigger commitment by BAR is the potentially long AC effort that is being signalled. This looks very expensive, probably a lot more than the already-significant E7M being reported. I do like the building's design too, it works well with the Spinnaker Tower (is it?) just down the coast.

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That could be a very nice base but, even though it's soft-shelled, the Luna Rossa setup in Cagliari gets my two thumbs up for spectacular scenery, climate, and sailing conditions.

 

One encouraging thing about this bigger commitment by BAR is the potentially long AC effort that is being signalled. This looks very expensive, probably a lot more than the already-significant E7M being reported. I do like the building's design too, it works well with the Spinnaker Tower (is it?) just down the coast.

Yes it is the Spinnaker Tower. It's just down the coast. It's virtually next door!

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A couple of new aerial images of the work on the Portsmouth base

 

I guess they didn't get the memo from some Kiwi here that they wouldn't even get planning permission before AC35 is over.

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That could be a very nice base but, even though it's soft-shelled, the Luna Rossa setup in Cagliari gets my two thumbs up for spectacular scenery, climate, and sailing conditions.

 

One encouraging thing about this bigger commitment by BAR is the potentially long AC effort that is being signalled. This looks very expensive, probably a lot more than the already-significant E7M being reported. I do like the building's design too, it works well with the Spinnaker Tower (is it?) just down the coast.

It does certainly mean a sustained effort to win the AC as they are not so naive to think that they're going to pitch up and walk away with it first time.

£7.5m from government funding and c£1.5m committed by the local authority towards a stated base project cost of £14m (unclear whether the local authority enabling work is included in this figure). The design is great if you like striking modern architecture, and I do.

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Some of the technical experts here on SA could apply for these roles (requires one to move from armchair)

 

 

http://benainslieracing.com/about/work-with-us/

 

Work with us
Ben Ainslie Racing will be looking for new team members in many areas through the coming months, and will advertise all current job vacancies within the team here.
Please keep checking back for updates.
Undergraduate Training Scheme
Once the team has relocated to their new base in Portsmouth in May 2015, BAR aim to run a training scheme, offering students the opportunity to gain experience across the Design, Communications, Sailing and Shore Operations departments.
We will start the recruitment process early in 2015.
Please check back for updates.
___________________________________________________________________________
Current positions
Graduate – Mechanical Design
Reporting to: Design Coordinator/Technical Director
Responsibilities/Duties
Ben Ainslie Racing is looking for recent mechanical engineering graduates to join their design team to help with the production and development of the British America’s Cup Yacht.
They will be required to work as an integral part of the design team helping to develop innovative design and engineering solutions.
Ideal candidates will, as a minimum, possess a BEng (2:1 or above) or MEng/MSc in Mechanical Engineering and must possess the tenacity and determination to work through a problem from concept stage to production drawings while working under pressure and to tight deadlines.
Person Specification
A recent graduate in mechanical engineering
Strong analytical skills
Knowledge and proficiency in parametric modelling (preferences will be given to Siemens NX users)
Knowledge of 2D AutoCAD drafting
The drive and determination to achieve
Terms of Employment
Fixed term contract to July 2017 (approx.)
Core hours of work are Monday to Friday (9.00am to 5.30pm)
Closing date for applications is midnight 30 September 2014
Salary – to be discussed at interview
To apply for this role, please complete all parts of the application form and email with a one page covering letter to: recruitment@benainslieracing.com.
Application form (word): BAR-Job-Application-Form Application form (PDF): BAR-Job-Application-Form
Mechanical Design Engineer
Reporting to: Design Coordinator/Technical Director
Responsibilities/Duties
Ben Ainslie Racing requires a Mechanical Engineer to join their design team to help with the production and development of the British America’s Cup Yacht.
Primary responsibilities will include the design and development of mechanical components and control systems for the team’s America’s Cup yacht and wings. In addition they will be required to work as part of the design team in general concept discussions as well as help in the development of innovative design and engineering solutions.
The ideal candidate will be operating at the top of their profession and may currently be working in the aerospace, motor sport or composite engineering industries. They must possess the ability to take a problem from concept stage through to production drawings while working under pressure and to tight deadlines.
Person Specification
An experienced mechanical engineer preferably from a weight sensitive industry
Knowledge and practical experience of Siemens NX (ideally with NX motion skills and NX Nastran experience)
Team Centre proficiency (individuals demonstrating this will be given priority)
Strong analytical skills (both manual calculation and computer simulations)
Knowledge and practical experience of 2D AutoCAD drafting
The drive and determination to achieve
Terms of Employment
Fixed term contract to July 2017 (approx.)
Core hours of work are Monday to Friday (9.00am to 5.30pm)
Closing date for applications is midnight 19th September 2014
Salary – dependent on experience.
To apply for this role, please complete all parts of the application form and email with a one page covering letter to: recruitment@benainslieracing.com.
Application form (word): BAR-Job-Application-Form Application form (PDF): BAR-Job-Application-Form

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at http://afloat.ie/sail/events/clipper-round-the-world-race/item/26717-british-sailing-legends-launch-clipper-youth-prize-at-southampton-boat-show

 

#ClipperRace - Clipper Round The World Race organiser Sir Robin Knox-Johnston and America's Cup hero Sir Ben Ainslie teamed up today at the PSP Southampton Boat Show to announce a new youth prize for the next edition of the world's longest ocean race.

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at http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2014/09/prweb12175447.htm

 

CD-adapco, the largest privately held CFD focused provider of Computer Aided Engineering software, today announced its new partnership with Ben Ainslie Racing. The Americas Cup team will be utilizing the CD-adapco simulation tool, STAR-CCM+® in the design of its racing boat. Ben Ainslie Racing team just announced its participation in the 35th Americas Cup taking place in 2017.

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I'm at the edge of my seat awaiting to hear the brand of toilet paper that will grace the bottoms of the Ben Ainslie Racing team.

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Sponsor, supplier and partner announcements along the lines of software suites, rigging and ribs are common across teams. Some of the companies actually are interesting too.

 

If nothing else, it shows forward progression and intent. I expect we'll see a lot related to BAR, re-posted to here too. Enjoy..

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Sponsor, supplier and partner announcements along the lines of software suites, rigging and ribs are common across teams. Some of the companies actually are interesting too.

If nothing else, it shows forward progression and intent. I expect we'll see a lot related to BAR, re-posted to here too. Enjoy..

Interesting how BA has gone from "big bad ugly Ben who punches out photogs and should be banned from sailing" to the poster boy of the challengers in just a few months.....

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Let me guess, you'll be saying the exact same thing 10 years from now.

Let me guess, you and your mates are already denying your big bad angry Ben posts calling for him to be thrown out of the Olympics and banned from sailing....

Of course he did help your heroes win the AC and is now spinbots poster boy...

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Umpire, thanks to feel concerned about Scotland in the UK thread.

 

Soltire ? Well, I would have been happy to see my Scottish cousins get their independance, why not an AC Scot challenge?

The Irish are alone and doing pretty well.

 

It won't happen soon though, might it give some ideas to the Welsh ?

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Sponsor, supplier and partner announcements along the lines of software suites, rigging and ribs are common across teams. Some of the companies actually are interesting too.

If nothing else, it shows forward progression and intent. I expect we'll see a lot related to BAR, re-posted to here too. Enjoy..

Interesting how BA has gone from "big bad ugly Ben who punches out photogs and should be banned from sailing" to the poster boy of the challengers in just a few months.....

Desperate times call for desperate measures :)

 

The Brits asked dame Ellen first but she said she was busy so they were left with Ben .

 

As he is one from the bottom of the list funding wise what are the odds of him making it to the line ?

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Sponsor, supplier and partner announcements along the lines of software suites, rigging and ribs are common across teams. Some of the companies actually are interesting too.

If nothing else, it shows forward progression and intent. I expect we'll see a lot related to BAR, re-posted to here too. Enjoy..

Interesting how BA has gone from "big bad ugly Ben who punches out photogs and should be banned from sailing" to the poster boy of the challengers in just a few months.....
Desperate times call for desperate measures :)

 

The Brits asked dame Ellen first but she said she was busy so they were left with Ben .

 

As he is one from the bottom of the list funding wise what are the odds of him making it to the line ?

Given he thinks Bermuda poor pickins - not good.

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Sponsor, supplier and partner announcements along the lines of software suites, rigging and ribs are common across teams. Some of the companies actually are interesting too.

If nothing else, it shows forward progression and intent. I expect we'll see a lot related to BAR, re-posted to here too. Enjoy..

Interesting how BA has gone from "big bad ugly Ben who punches out photogs and should be banned from sailing" to the poster boy of the challengers in just a few months.....

Desperate times call for desperate measures :)

The Brits asked dame Ellen first but she said she was busy so they were left with Ben .

As he is one from the bottom of the list funding wise what are the odds of him making it to the line ?

He has as good a chance as any of the non bil challengers...cue the west coast maf to come in and kick shit out of sir keef....

Talent wise...you guys are gonna miss him....

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By the permanent-looking base being built you'd think there's a plan for not just AC35. And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS this Challenge might well be guaranteed regardless how much a part corporate sponsorship plays.

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By the permanent-looking base being built you'd think there's a plan for not just AC35. And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS this Challenge might well be guaranteed regardless how much a part corporate sponsorship plays.

And spinbot comes in with first "fully funded" post of AC35...

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By the permanent-looking base being built you'd think there's a plan for not just AC35. And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS this Challenge might well be guaranteed regardless how much a part corporate sponsorship plays.

You could be right. BAR probably won't win on their 1st Attempt.

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ro - If you have any intelligent debate points then plz share them.

 

Otoh, your continual delusions and nastiness? Just spare us your negativity and personal pain fer chrissakes, it reflects badly on only you.

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And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS.

Not even vaguely true.

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And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS.

Not even vaguely true.
Spinbot gets carried away again by things he knows little about.

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And given the hundreds of £B's worth connected to the RYS.

Not even vaguely true.
I didn't just make that up. It was written as being so in a recent article in one of the major British papers, I forget which or would have linked it.

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