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Tim Healy, fo sho. and our local boat: Torqeedo!!

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Pretty hard to bet against Allan Terhune Jr (having a Rolex kind of year), Dave Ullman, or Tim Healy.

 

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I've been thinking that the massive fleet may give some black horses with big fleet chops. It is a deep, deep scratch sheet. Many guys who are proven A+ racers from other fleets, plus all the assundry industry rock stars (legit and otherwise) attracted by the size of the fleet, could create an interesting top 10. How many world champions of 50+ boat fleets? How many former all Americans?

 

Pretty cool. Also, I am armchair bound for this one and while the AC is fairly awesome, this is somehow easier to relate to and to find boats yo live vicariously through.

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Who are the favorites?

 

I like the white boat... What's it name, with that guy... You know him, the Heavy set thin guy on the shorter side of tall? The wavy haired bald guy...wears a shirt n shorts all the time.. He's gonna kill it.

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Kerry took race 1. Race 2 in progress.

 

Follow posts from the water at:

 

http://www.j70nac.com/

 

Wish I was out there, but the breeze is pretty light now so maybe I am better off.

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Where are you seeing a 'posts from the water' link on the event site??

 

In the center of the home page on the site. Under the banner picture that rotates through a handful of photos. They just posted race 2 second weather mark rounding leaders.

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For the newest hottest JBoat class and it's first NA

Someone should make an effort to improve the updates and have results posting as they happen.

 

 

And now it is all there... quite a scattering of scoring

a light breeze freakshow..

I am sure some braincells were left on the water

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There was breeze in the morning but the 'professional' PRO didn't like it. Sat around for four hours watching the breeze die. Could have easily gotten one, maybe two races off but I guess all the pros wouldn't have liked sailing in the light shifty stuff so no go.

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I was out there for hours watching and agree. They should have popped a race off first thing plenty of wind. Its the Chesapeake its always light and shifty these teams came to race so start some races.

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There was breeze in the morning but the 'professional' PRO didn't like it. Sat around for four hours watching the breeze die. Could have easily gotten one, maybe two races off but I guess all the pros wouldn't have liked sailing in the light shifty stuff so no go.

 

From the J-70 Race Management Policies for Major Championships - August 2013
2. Decision to Race
2.1 Races will not be started in less than an average of 5 knots of wind established over the entire course
area. This lower limit may be higher if there is strong current in the racing area.
2.2 Races will not be started in excess of an average of 25 knots for if gusting to 28 knots or above. These
limits may also vary depending upon sea conditions, current and rapid changes in velocity.
2.3 Races will not be started if reduced visibility prevents the race management team from sighting the
starting line and identifying premature starters. The fact that the first mark cannot be seen from the
starting area is not, in and of itself, a reason to postpone racing
I wasn't there, but it seems like the RC was simply following the directions of the class association.

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Could have sailed one on fri easily

 

Today we had a laundry start- pin boat displayed individual recall flag, signal boat displayed general recall flag and hailed general recall but then let the fleet go with a few boats reading the flags and turning back...

 

I've seen better from her- although she's fast becoming a very frustrating pro to sail under... We spent more time postponed or recalled or postponed in sequence... It's Annapolis- it's going to shift- trying to set the perfect course is impossible but she'll keep us waiting while a pin moves 4'.

 

Not impressed-

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.... ...

 

Today we had a laundry start- pin boat displayed individual recall flag, signal boat displayed general recall flag and hailed general recall but then let the fleet go with a few boats reading the flags and turning back...

 

...

 

That's a BIG ASS mistake on the RC... if the boats returning don't seek and get redress, then it will be a wrench in the works for the whole regatta

 

FB- Doug

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It becomes pretty easy to be critical of the RC, when it is often the format dictated to them that causes problems.

 

At one time, large classes (I.E. Thistle) used to split the fleets and hold the individual fleet size to about 50 boats. Many had some sort of qualification system with a quota on the number of boats that could enter. The course lengths tended to be longer and one could recover from a poor start. Now instead of a fixed course length, most Class Associations want races timed to last about an hour and at the same time want one large fleet.


Consider that an 89 boat fleet in this case requires a minimum 2050+ foot starting line but could be up to 3000 ft.. (0.4 NM to 0.5NM)

For every degree of line bias, the favored end gives a 40 to 50 foot advantage or nearly 2 boat lengths.

The wind was light and longest leg length that I saw listed on the regatta website was 1.3NM. A couple were as short as 0.8NM. Thats 2-3 times the length of the starting line.

At 4 kts. it would take you over four minutes to run the line and therefore if you are at the wrong end of the line, any shift late in the sequence would pretty much take you right out of the race. If that shift also leaves a big hole on the opposite side of the course? Hardly a fair race and this was not some local club event.

One look at the scores turned in by some very talented sailors gives some indication of just how tough conditions were. Congratulations to the winners!

 

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So who had money on the winner of this event? A no throw out regatta with a big fleet in a venue that has the potential to serve up some real curveballs yielded some big numbers on the scoresheet.

 

Other than commentary on the PRO, what else is news from the event?

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So who had money on the winner of this event? A no throw out regatta with a big fleet in a venue that has the potential to serve up some real curveballs yielded some big numbers on the scoresheet.

 

Other than commentary on the PRO, what else is news from the event?

I took away some interesting observations-

 

Boats with 3 had much better speed off the wind and didn't seem to suffer all that much up wind- given it was light- but on sat there were times we had all 700+\- lbs on the rail and the difference wasn't that big

 

You can pass 10 boats in 30 sec if you're on the ball- you can lose 20 boats in 30 sec if you're not

 

In the back o the pack they like to make up rules-

 

The winches are there so you know you sailed a jboat- I.e. Bruised butt cheeks-

 

Sounded like a good party on fri-

 

The jib leads are too far outboard

 

Current- much like common sense- few understand it-

 

Good event in general- Mother Nature didn't help things-

 

The rc did an okay job- as stated above- not terrible but not stellar.

 

If you sail well, drive well and stay focused- you can win- very much a drivers boat.

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I was spectator Thursday, and it reminded me of back when the J/24 first came on the scene. A great mix of sailmaker/pro teams, top competitors from other one-design classes both large (Farr 40, J/105, Ben 36.7) and small (Megles, Stars, Lightning Thistles, etc.) a good local turnout and plenty of weekend warriors and even some family crew. Typical general recall jitters in the first start. Fairly orderly there after. Leeward mark roundings for the middle pack was six-eight wide. Typical championship 'it's usually not like this' N-NE where locals played the current and out-of-towners played the breeze. Well I guess Friday was a typical Annapolis sun's-out-no breeze high pressure. Would've liked to have seen the racing on Saturday in more breeze, but had other obligations. As for the RC I thought the three boat, center signal allowed them to set the start line quickly and fairly. The fleet was spread out across the whole line in the three races I saw, including one 'all clear'.

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