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Team Australia to attempt Trans-Tasman speed record

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After having spent the winter in the operating theatre at the hands of a skilled team of Noakes’ surgeons, Sean Langman’s Orma 60 trimaran has been re-launched ahead of a busy summer.

The crew of Team Australia has just one week to test its new lifting prop, new rig and trimmer shape before six men, most of the same crew from the trimaran’s express run to Hobart back in February, will attempt to set an official Trans-Tasman speed record from Sydney to Auckland.

 

http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Team-Australia-to-attempt-Trans-Tasman-speed-record/115631

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Fair weather and good winds guys.
You'll get a warm welcome from the New Zealand Multihull Yacht Club.

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There is no record at the moment. They will set a tough benchmark.

 

Go Sean and the boys

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There will be a benchmark from the short handed trans-tasman races but it'll be a low one.

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for the solo-trans tasman

 

The fastest time ever for the crossing is held by Ian Johnston, who in the 1986 race, sailed the trimaran Bullfrog Sunblockthe 1280 nautical miles in 6 days, 8hrs 50mins, an average speed of just over 8 knots.

 

but peter blake on the steinlager tri probably beat that

 

wouldn't the last cross time of voda be the mark?

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What was the steinlager tri? New name?

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1280 miles in 6 days.... lol

 

Hmm.. i reckon under 3... with the right conditions. I know the seas can be massive...with luck 2.5

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1280 miles in 6 days.... lol

 

Hmm.. i reckon under 3... with the right conditions. I know the seas can be massive...with luck 2.5

Pretty quick for single handing in 1986 on a 40' boat.

S/h trans tas races generally don't use the same start and finish ports:

 

http://www.ssaa.com.au/SSAA_Events/events/TT/Tranz%20Tas%20History.html

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SSAA races usually went to New Plymouth, on the west coast.

Auckland is on the east coast and to get there you gave to sail around the top and down the east coast, much further. Very dangerous around the top of nth island.

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The departure is planned for Weds 16.10.13 at this stage. We're putting the finishing touches to a new website which will include a live tracker, the URL will be posted shortly

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What was the steinlager tri? New name?

It was built as the Steinlager trimaran (Steinglager 1?) sailed by Peter Blake and Mike Quilter went on to win the Round Australia Race it was basically a 60' ORMA style trimaran and had an amazing chord on the wingmast. During the round Australia Race they crossed the Great Australian Bight under wingmast alone it was later sold to Loick Peyron and became Lada Poch IV and broke up while being raced.

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What was the steinlager tri? New name?

It was built as the Steinlager trimaran (Steinglager 1?) sailed by Peter Blake and Mike Quilter went on to win the Round Australia Race it was basically a 60' ORMA style trimaran and had an amazing chord on the wingmast. During the round Australia Race they crossed the Great Australian Bight under wingmast alone it was later sold to Loick Peyron and became Lada Poch IV and broke up while being raced.

 

 

Thanks for that.

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Here's a 1988 shot I took of Steinlager 1; the wing mast had a 2 metre chord; tri was an early ORMA and designed by David Allan-Williams; we reached at 30 knots during that day.

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Here's a 1988 shot I took of Steinlager 1; the wing mast had a 2 metre chord; tri was an early ORMA and designed by David Allan-Williams; we reached at 30 knots during that day.

 

blake was apparently less than impressed by the inability to de-power the 2mt chord wingmast

 

probably no coincidence that wing masts that size were not continued

 

nice pics on your website

 

51.jpg

 

hope she gets a good weather window

 

coming on top of the cup COR coup

 

this could be the breakout time for australian multihulls

 

tracker's up

 

http://teamaus.net.au/track-us-now/

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What was the steinlager tri? New name?

It was built as the Steinlager trimaran (Steinglager 1?) sailed by Peter Blake and Mike Quilter went on to win the Round Australia Race it was basically a 60' ORMA style trimaran and had an amazing chord on the wingmast. During the round Australia Race they crossed the Great Australian Bight under wingmast alone it was later sold to Loick Peyron and became Lada Poch IV and broke up while being raced.

Also broke off the bow of 1 float on return trip to NZ after 2sail 88.

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The boys are stepping aboard & saying their goodbyes at Noakes, Berrys Bay. Departure is only minutes away

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do we have a tracker up and running when I click on the web site the only tracker showing is from Sydney to Auckland

Best of luck lads keep her flat and fast

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do we have a tracker up and running when I click on the web site the only tracker showing is from Sydney to Auckland

Best of luck lads keep her flat and fast

 

what other kind of tracker would you want?

 

running due east to the northern tip of nz

 

josh alexander (last known position)

Time 16th Oct 2013 @ 14:00:07 Australia/Sydney

Lat / Lng 33° 48.85S, 152° 02.34E

COG / SOG 88° @ 22.7 knots

Temperature 21°C Altitude 4m

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

Check out their FB page, I think the same question was asked there

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

Check out their FB page, I think the same question was asked there

Thanks Rushman, but I'm running OPOS, not FB compatible (Oldschool Personal Operating System - I'm an old fart, that's how come I recognised the boat!).

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

 

Well spotted, it certainly is Fidelis

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

 

Well spotted, it certainly is Fidelis

Thanks NBS. 2 magnificent boats in one photo!

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'scuse the hijack, but is that "Fidelis" in the background?

 

Go TA!

Check out their FB page, I think the same question was asked there
It was actually on the other thread here on SA... I knew I had seen it somewhere!

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27 kns

 

looks to be right on the rhumb line

 

any way to get wind direction arrows on the yellowbrick tracker?

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Looks like the boys have had a good night and covered some miles.Any ideas on average speed,and distance sailed/to go?

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They look like they are about half way across to the top of the north island. Great speed.

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Team Australia are over the worst of the anticipated conditions & in moderating breeze. From Josh Alexander at 8.21am AEDST

 

“It was a rough night, 40 knots plus for a good 3-4 hours and mainsail only for a while. We are still in 30-32kts WNW with a triple reefed main and small headsail. It’s still rough.

There was a good moon earlier on but by 2am we couldn’t see the waves, we just drove it down the mine. It was scary.

We haven’t broken anything and no-one is seasick.”

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Latest from Josh Alexander at 1.17pm AEDST

 

"All good, trucking along well in 25+ knots. Very wet on & below deck!

 

No gear breakages & minimal sail changes but frequent reefing changes, currently have 2 reefs in

 

Time for a snack!"

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Go guys! This is fantastic stuff!!

 

PS I was wondering how my sail chart for Expedition was going, but now I know where Ben Kelly is, I can see he has more important things to do :P

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554 miles in the first 24 hrs at average 23knts (from facebook).

Good effort go lads.

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From FB time 67hrs 10min at an average of 18.7 knts for 1,260 miles.Awsome.

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From their fb page - 2 days 17 hrs 45 mins at average speed of 19.6 kn

 

Fantastic - well done guys!!

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From their fb page - 2 days 17 hrs 45 mins at average speed of 19.6 kn

 

Fantastic - well done guys!!

Previous unofficial record was over 5 days, cut it in half, excellent. This one will be hard to beat.

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You can do it Nuddy - if u can just get that damn boat up to Cat 1 :P

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Hello All,

 

Ben Kelly here,

 

Thanks to the whole Noakes team, plus Shaun, Josh, James, Peter and Andrew, we had a great sail and made a great team together!

 

I got to helm the boat at 35-36 knots which was awesome!

I saw 39 knots of boat speed at one point when Shaun had the helm, and 36-38 many times during the trip.

 

These boats are absolutely amazing, they where so far ahead of their time!

 

I just wanted to have a look at the best 24hr run we did as the 554nm was from the start and we where actually on the wind foir a couple of hours.

 

So using the lat/long info off the tracker I worked out the best straight line distance run to be 564.8nm.

 

When Josh has time we will get the actual best distance covered in 24hrs and I am guerssing it will be around 570-575 nautical miles.

 

My bucket list has one very large tick on it after that!

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Nice work Ben, congrats to you and thanks to Shaun for lifting the profile of multis down here in the south.

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Hello All,

 

Ben Kelly here,

 

Thanks to the whole Noakes team, plus Shaun, Josh, James, Peter and Andrew, we had a great sail and made a great team together!

 

I got to helm the boat at 35-36 knots which was awesome!

I saw 39 knots of boat speed at one point when Shaun had the helm, and 36-38 many times during the trip.

 

These boats are absolutely amazing, they where so far ahead of their time!

 

I just wanted to have a look at the best 24hr run we did as the 554nm was from the start and we where actually on the wind foir a couple of hours.

 

So using the lat/long info off the tracker I worked out the best straight line distance run to be 564.8nm.

 

When Josh has time we will get the actual best distance covered in 24hrs and I am guerssing it will be around 570-575 nautical miles.

 

My bucket list has one very large tick on it after that!

attachicon.gif24hr Team Australia.jpg

 

Thanks for sharing, well done!

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Nice work Ben, congrats to you and thanks to Shaun for lifting the profile of multis down here in the south.

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Hello All,

 

Ben Kelly here,

 

Thanks to the whole Noakes team, plus Shaun, Josh, James, Peter and Andrew, we had a great sail and made a great team together!

 

I got to helm the boat at 35-36 knots which was awesome!

I saw 39 knots of boat speed at one point when Shaun had the helm, and 36-38 many times during the trip.

 

These boats are absolutely amazing, they where so far ahead of their time!

 

I just wanted to have a look at the best 24hr run we did as the 554nm was from the start and we where actually on the wind foir a couple of hours.

 

So using the lat/long info off the tracker I worked out the best straight line distance run to be 564.8nm.

 

When Josh has time we will get the actual best distance covered in 24hrs and I am guerssing it will be around 570-575 nautical miles.

 

My bucket list has one very large tick on it after that!

attachicon.gif24hr Team Australia.jpg

G'day Ben thanks for posting, how did the boat handle? Was it oh wow were doing 39kts or oh fuck were all gonna die

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Hello All,

 

Ben Kelly here,

 

Thanks to the whole Noakes team, plus Shaun, Josh, James, Peter and Andrew, we had a great sail and made a great team together!

 

I got to helm the boat at 35-36 knots which was awesome!

I saw 39 knots of boat speed at one point when Shaun had the helm, and 36-38 many times during the trip.

 

These boats are absolutely amazing, they where so far ahead of their time!

 

I just wanted to have a look at the best 24hr run we did as the 554nm was from the start and we where actually on the wind foir a couple of hours.

 

So using the lat/long info off the tracker I worked out the best straight line distance run to be 564.8nm.

 

When Josh has time we will get the actual best distance covered in 24hrs and I am guerssing it will be around 570-575 nautical miles.

 

My bucket list has one very large tick on it after that!

attachicon.gif24hr Team Australia.jpg

G'day Ben thanks for posting, how did the boat handle? Was it oh wow were doing 39kts or oh fuck were all gonna die

While we are asking.......

Ben can you tell us what mods Sean did to TA in the last months before the crossing...?

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Hello All,

 

Ben Kelly here,

 

Thanks to the whole Noakes team, plus Shaun, Josh, James, Peter and Andrew, we had a great sail and made a great team together!

 

I got to helm the boat at 35-36 knots which was awesome!

I saw 39 knots of boat speed at one point when Shaun had the helm, and 36-38 many times during the trip.

 

These boats are absolutely amazing, they where so far ahead of their time!

 

I just wanted to have a look at the best 24hr run we did as the 554nm was from the start and we where actually on the wind foir a couple of hours.

 

So using the lat/long info off the tracker I worked out the best straight line distance run to be 564.8nm.

 

When Josh has time we will get the actual best distance covered in 24hrs and I am guerssing it will be around 570-575 nautical miles.

 

My bucket list has one very large tick on it after that!

attachicon.gif24hr Team Australia.jpg

G'day Ben thanks for posting, how did the boat handle? Was it oh wow were doing 39kts or oh fuck were all gonna die

Funny, I expected the boat to make the speeds feel like less, but at first doing 22-25knots a couple of hours out from th heads that felt crazy fast! because of the sea state and our high angle to the breeze. Then as we slowely cracked away into the night I got to experiance 25-30 knots, this is pretty full on in 4mtr waves and quite a violent action on the body that took some time to get used to. By early morning we where seeing up to 40 knots of wind and the speed sitting around 32 knots and every now and then with an insane burst of accelaration we would get a run on that would take us to 36-38 knots and then work its way back to around 32 again. I would say that whilst the high speeds are quite full on and the adrenilan is definately pumping the action of the boat improves by the time you are doing 35-40 knots, the motion almost turns into a vibation as the boat is simply abilterating what little water it is going through by then, it is one of the best felings I have ever experianced and I am sure the boats motion would change depending on the sea state you are going through and especially the angle to the breeze.

The best true wind angle seemed to be 115 degrees, at this angle in 30+ knots of wind the driving is easy, the boat behaves insanely well, she is bow up with 2/3 of the leward float out of the water and the centre hul in/out constantly. Unfortunatley we had the wind at around 80-90 for a big part of the leg across which just held us back a little from consistantly higher averages, basically if the top end of NZ had have been 100 milesfurther south I think we may have done 600+ nm for the 24hrs. You have to trust the foil when driving, on non foil boats you tend to have to run away with the pressure. With a foil that works so effectively when the power comes on and you are stairing the back of the next big growler you head up(if you react early enough), put more power into the boat, the bows rise as the boat accelerates and the foil works even more, then you get to the back of the wave in front and launch over it from behind as if it is a ramp, basically the best feeling ever!

The problem is at 80 degrees true you feel like coming up is a bad option and you feel like going down is bad so quite often you just hold your course and your nerve and let the boat do its thing! Give me the helm of that thing, 25-30knots of wind, 4-5 metres of swell 2 x reefs in the Main and the smallest HWJ jib and I would be in heaven! I miss it already..... All the best to the crew of the Coastal, I think they have the legs....

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Best post around here in a long time!

Thanks!

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Best post around here in a long time!

Thanks!

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Excellent! Congratulations. Go Team Australia. Well done beating that red boat too. Hope he wants a return match to Hobart.

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