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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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bgytr

Farewell to Bert- Annapolis sailing icon

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Yeah, this was a tough one. Bert was a good man, and a Bay institution.

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Ah geeze. Knew he was ill for some time but thought the situation had stabilized.

 

Sorry to hear it.

 

Legendary says it all.

 

He will be missed.

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Huge loss but sadly not suprised that man used up every bit of his life. He did a ton for the Annapolis area and the marine industry, and the model he uses has certainly set the trend for many others to follow. Rod certainly has some big shoes to fill but I think he is doing just fine. My thoughts go out to the entire Jabins family

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Rest in peace, Bert. My condolences to his family.

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My memories of Bert go back beyond the Alberg 30s days some seem to think were his start. Bert and a single crewmember raced his 30 square meter, Persephone, re-rigged as a yawl complete with spinnaker and mizzen staysail in CBYRA Racing Division, and won. He seemed to see in me some of his early days as a "broke young naval architect" because he hauled my half-finished Luders 24 hull to his shed and placed it there where he permitted me to finish the boat myself for free in a day when boatyards did not permit owners to work on their own boats, even giving me the run of his supplies on the honor system. This was back in the original Junk Jungle Lane days when the office was an old silver painted trailer where Bert sat to oversee things unless he was called out to operate the single old crane with slings used to haul and launch. No one ever was kinder or more encouraging to me that Bert, and I will miss him. Karl Kirkman

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I first meet Bert about 25-years ago when I was looking for office space to start up a sailing school in Annapolis. My first impression was that here was an old school, hard working, hard-nose, no nonsense guy, but a fair man. Being a young man at the time, I’ll confess that I found Bert was a bit intimating. Knowing that I barely had two nickels to rub together, Bert offered me a 2-room office at his Second Street yard for $150 a month. Over the years I never got to know Bert well, but I developed a tremendous respect for the man and the icon that he became.

 

To Rod, Derek and the family, I offer you my deepest condolences.

 

Marty Kiely

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