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Yes. She is already sold to a German guy. Known name... mhhh... famous, but I do not remember in this moment.

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Yes. She is already sold to a German guy. Known name... mhhh... famous, but I do not remember in this moment.

Not sure if that is correct. Edr was however sold to Boris Hermann. Haven't heard about any other Germans involved in this kind of racing

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Jörg Riechers is the other German in IMOCA sailing. Did the 2014/15 BWR, previous VG campaigns ran out of money. The mods done to the boat (new max volume front half) seemed to work out for JLC.

AFAIK currently doing Class40 stuff. Certainly no "bought a boat" news that I could find.

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Yes. She is already sold to a German guy. Known name... mhhh... famous, but I do not remember in this moment.

Not sure if that is correct. Edr was however sold to Boris Hermann. Haven't heard about any other Germans involved in this kind of racing

 

 

You are correct. I mixed the boats in my mind.

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Jörg Riechers is the other German in IMOCA sailing. Did the 2014/15 BWR, previous VG campaigns ran out of money. The mods done to the boat (new max volume front half) seemed to work out for JLC.

AFAIK currently doing Class40 stuff. Certainly no "bought a boat" news that I could find.

 

I thought Jonas was making a dig.

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A bit of a lazy answer from me. Wasn't meant as an insult. Anyhow will be interesting to see what will happen to Morgan's campaign and the boat for that matter.

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A bit of a lazy answer from me. Wasn't meant as an insult. Anyhow will be interesting to see what will happen to Morgan's campaign and the boat for that matter.

 

The boat belongs to Safran and should probably be sold to the highest bidder.

 

Morgan was an "employee", is he going to be hired by somebody else ? Debatable.

I wonder how modified the current foilers will be for the next edition of the Vendee Globe?

 

I guess that most of the teams wonder about that too !

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A bit of a lazy answer from me. Wasn't meant as an insult. Anyhow will be interesting to see what will happen to Morgan's campaign and the boat for that matter.

 

The boat belongs to Safran and should probably be sold to the highest bidder.

 

Morgan was an "employee", is he going to be hired by somebody else ? Debatable.

Yes, he did suffer a lot from technical problems, so he can't rely too much on previous results, when looking for a new partner. However, I don't think we have to wait too long before the boat finds a new owner. Not many latest gen boats for sale

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Saw a post on FB about Morgan potentially signing with a new team for the upcoming quadrennial.

 

Check that, Scanvoile, Morgan looking to join Rolan Jourdain's team

http://www.scanvoile.com/2017/02/sponsoring-morgan-lagraviere-reve-du.html?utm_content=buffer7fa5b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer#.WJStyBsrI2y

 

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A bit of a lazy answer from me. Wasn't meant as an insult. Anyhow will be interesting to see what will happen to Morgan's campaign and the boat for that matter.

 

The boat belongs to Safran and should probably be sold to the highest bidder.

 

Morgan was an "employee", is he going to be hired by somebody else ? Debatable.


I wonder how modified the current foilers will be for the next edition of the Vendee Globe?

 

I guess that most of the teams wonder about that too !

 

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Saw a post on FB about Morgan potentially signing with a new team for the upcoming quadrennial.

 

Check that, Scanvoile, Morgan looking to join Rolan Jourdain's team

http://www.scanvoile.com/2017/02/sponsoring-morgan-lagraviere-reve-du.html?utm_content=buffer7fa5b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer#.WJStyBsrI2y

 

HW

 

 

A bit of a lazy answer from me. Wasn't meant as an insult. Anyhow will be interesting to see what will happen to Morgan's campaign and the boat for that matter.

 

The boat belongs to Safran and should probably be sold to the highest bidder.

 

Morgan was an "employee", is he going to be hired by somebody else ? Debatable.

I wonder how modified the current foilers will be for the next edition of the Vendee Globe?

 

I guess that most of the teams wonder about that too !

 

 

 

Jourdain's company had been hired by Safran to run the show, when they disposed of Guillemot, so both are without a sponsor, now..

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Excellent analysis/summary of the current Imoca's fate in the latest delivery by http://www.tipandshaft.com , who phoned most of the teams.

 

Abstract:

 

Negociations have started several weeks ahead of the VG start. Something which has never been seen before, usually the weeks following the VG are very quiet.
  • Banque Populaire VIII : The sale of the winning VPLP design to Louis Burton & Bureau Vallée has been publicised few days before the start. As it is the case for all boats which entered the VG, the sale is conditional to a full survey to take place in the next few days.
  • Edmond de Rotschild : Tne sale of Seb Josse's VPLP-Verdier to Boris Hermann is official since early January.
  • Maître Coq : ex Banque Populaire VII, is being sold to Tanguy de Lamotte. "We have signed a letter of intent and are waiting for the survey" confirmed the skipper who also told that the current Initiatives Coeur (Farr modified by VPLP/Verdier) was under a sales agreement with a skipper who wants to remain anonymous for now. [MF edit: it would seem that the de Lamotte would happen under the umbrella of JP Dick's company Absolute Dreamer]
  • Quéguiner-Leucémie Espoir : formerly Safran (the earliest VPLP-Verdier design) was attracting a lot of interest and Alain Gautier through his "Lanic Sport Développement" company, has secured the buying option. The yacht shall enter the TJV with a duo to be determined and negociations are running with a potential sponsor. The yacht shall also be used in the "incentive" day-chartering program run in Lorient. [ MF edit: dock rumours talk of a well known mini and Figaro racer and a long standing Figaro sponsor]
  • No way back : The latest VPLP-Verdier foiler is not officially for sale but many offers have been put up. Pieter Heerema, free of any contractual or financial constraint has not yet made any decision for the future 'Everything is possible, one way of the other" tells project manager Antoine Mermod.
  • Safran : the VPLP-Verdier foiler shall be sold on the end of the contract with Morgan Lagravière which shall end in June. Roland Jourdain told "Tip&Shaft" that his company "Kairos" and Lagravière are trying to find sponsors for this.
  • Hugo Boss : Alex Thomson should enter the next Transat Jacques Vabre with his VPLP-Verdier before thinking to a potential new boat.
  • StMichel-Virbac : Jean-Pierre Dick will enter the Transat Jacques Vabre on his VPLP-Verdier foiler and shall make public in July "whether the yacht is for sale after the TJV" according to team manager Luc Talbourdet,.
  • Finistère Mer Vent : Jean Le Cam Farr design is not for sale, confirmed his wife.
  • Bureau Vallée : formerly Jérémie Beyou's Delta Dore (Farr design) is for sale and enquiries have been made. No decision made yet, though, according to Servane Escoffier.
  • Comm un seul homme : Eric Bellion's Finot-Conq, is not for sale says Press-officer.
  • La Mie Câline : Arnaud Boissières' Farr Design is not for sale, skipper-owner is entering the TJV.
  • Great American IV : Rich Wilson's Owen-Clarke ex Mirabaud is for sale.
  • SMA : Paul Meilhat being under contract to SMA till the 2018 RDR, project manager Marcus Hutchinson says that the yacht is not for sale [ MF edit: right or wrong, dock buzz keeps mentioning a new boat)
  • PRB : Vincent Riou and PRB are revising their options, the orange VPLP-Verdier design is not for sale says PR officer.
  • MACSF : Bertrand de Broc is under contract with his sponsor till December and the Fnot-Conq design is not officially for sale. Yet he told "Tip&Shaft" that he is "in expectation" , and is quite open to interesting proposals.
  • Kilcullen Voyager-Team Ireland : Enda O'Coineen's Owen-Clarke design, currently being loaded in Christchurch (NZ) on the same boat as SMA, has been raising interest but nothing is done according to Marcus Hutchinson, who is helping the Irish project.
  • Le Souffle du Nord pour Imagine : ex Groupe Bel (VPLP-Verdier), badly damaged in the Pacific Oean and saved by Thomas Ruyant, will be subject to a survey in New Zealand in the coming weeks, following which it will be repaired there or shipped to France. The yacht's planning depends on the re-build planning but "we are listening to any proposal" told "Tip&Shaft" project managerSylvain Derreumaux.
  • Compagnie du Lit-Boulogne-Billancourt : Stéphane Le Diraison's Finot-Conq is not for sale currently, as the skipper believes that he has "strong chances to be able to enter in the TJV". Still he remains "open to potential evolutions" he pointed out to "Tip&&Shaft".
  • Newrest-Matmut : Fabrice Amedeo, still at sea, told "Tip & Shaft" that he would put his Farr design up for sale at the end of next year's Route du Rhum.

So: if you have a deep wallet and guts ......

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Price cutting . Some price pressure in the imoca class, so VPLP is cooperating with the yard CDK to build three boats based on the old BP design.  Seems like this is a way to get more competitive boats to smaller teams

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On 15-9-2017 at 9:25 AM, jonas a said:

Price cutting . Some price pressure in the imoca class, so VPLP is cooperating with the yard CDK to build three boats based on the old BP design.  Seems like this is a way to get more competitive boats to smaller teams

If I was part of a smaller team I would try to buy this submarine:
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It's Safran, I guess Morgan Lagraviere et Roland Jourdain will buy a new one in the Transat 2020.
Starting 8 november in le Havre.
They say the following: Amis Sponsors embarquez avec nous!
which means they are looking for a friendly sponsor. 
Source: https://www.vendeeglobe.org/fr/actualites/19220/12-duos-pour-une-transat

image-c-1180-664.jpg
 

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On 04/02/2017 at 12:07 PM, moody frog said:

Excellent analysis/summary of the current Imoca's fate in the latest delivery by http://www.tipandshaft.com , who phoned most of the teams.

 

Abstract:

 

Negociations have started several weeks ahead of the VG start. Something which has never been seen before, usually the weeks following the VG are very quiet.
  • Banque Populaire VIII : The sale of the winning VPLP design to Louis Burton & Bureau Vallée has been publicised few days before the start. As it is the case for all boats which entered the VG, the sale is conditional to a full survey to take place in the next few days.
  • Edmond de Rotschild : Tne sale of Seb Josse's VPLP-Verdier to Boris Hermann is official since early January.
  • Maître Coq : ex Banque Populaire VII, is being sold to Tanguy de Lamotte. "We have signed a letter of intent and are waiting for the survey" confirmed the skipper who also told that the current Initiatives Coeur (Farr modified by VPLP/Verdier) was under a sales agreement with a skipper who wants to remain anonymous for now. [MF edit: it would seem that the de Lamotte would happen under the umbrella of JP Dick's company Absolute Dreamer]
  • Quéguiner-Leucémie Espoir : formerly Safran (the earliest VPLP-Verdier design) was attracting a lot of interest and Alain Gautier through his "Lanic Sport Développement" company, has secured the buying option. The yacht shall enter the TJV with a duo to be determined and negociations are running with a potential sponsor. The yacht shall also be used in the "incentive" day-chartering program run in Lorient. [ MF edit: dock rumours talk of a well known mini and Figaro racer and a long standing Figaro sponsor]
  • No way back : The latest VPLP-Verdier foiler is not officially for sale but many offers have been put up. Pieter Heerema, free of any contractual or financial constraint has not yet made any decision for the future 'Everything is possible, one way of the other" tells project manager Antoine Mermod.
  • Safran : the VPLP-Verdier foiler shall be sold on the end of the contract with Morgan Lagravière which shall end in June. Roland Jourdain told "Tip&Shaft" that his company "Kairos" and Lagravière are trying to find sponsors for this.
  • Hugo Boss : Alex Thomson should enter the next Transat Jacques Vabre with his VPLP-Verdier before thinking to a potential new boat.
  • StMichel-Virbac : Jean-Pierre Dick will enter the Transat Jacques Vabre on his VPLP-Verdier foiler and shall make public in July "whether the yacht is for sale after the TJV" according to team manager Luc Talbourdet,.
  • Finistère Mer Vent : Jean Le Cam Farr design is not for sale, confirmed his wife.
  • Bureau Vallée : formerly Jérémie Beyou's Delta Dore (Farr design) is for sale and enquiries have been made. No decision made yet, though, according to Servane Escoffier.
  • Comm un seul homme : Eric Bellion's Finot-Conq, is not for sale says Press-officer.
  • La Mie Câline : Arnaud Boissières' Farr Design is not for sale, skipper-owner is entering the TJV.
  • Great American IV : Rich Wilson's Owen-Clarke ex Mirabaud is for sale.
  • SMA : Paul Meilhat being under contract to SMA till the 2018 RDR, project manager Marcus Hutchinson says that the yacht is not for sale [ MF edit: right or wrong, dock buzz keeps mentioning a new boat)
  • PRB : Vincent Riou and PRB are revising their options, the orange VPLP-Verdier design is not for sale says PR officer.
  • MACSF : Bertrand de Broc is under contract with his sponsor till December and the Fnot-Conq design is not officially for sale. Yet he told "Tip&Shaft" that he is "in expectation" , and is quite open to interesting proposals.
  • Kilcullen Voyager-Team Ireland : Enda O'Coineen's Owen-Clarke design, currently being loaded in Christchurch (NZ) on the same boat as SMA, has been raising interest but nothing is done according to Marcus Hutchinson, who is helping the Irish project.
  • Le Souffle du Nord pour Imagine : ex Groupe Bel (VPLP-Verdier), badly damaged in the Pacific Oean and saved by Thomas Ruyant, will be subject to a survey in New Zealand in the coming weeks, following which it will be repaired there or shipped to France. The yacht's planning depends on the re-build planning but "we are listening to any proposal" told "Tip&Shaft" project managerSylvain Derreumaux.
  • Compagnie du Lit-Boulogne-Billancourt : Stéphane Le Diraison's Finot-Conq is not for sale currently, as the skipper believes that he has "strong chances to be able to enter in the TJV". Still he remains "open to potential evolutions" he pointed out to "Tip&&Shaft".
  • Newrest-Matmut : Fabrice Amedeo, still at sea, told "Tip & Shaft" that he would put his Farr design up for sale at the end of next year's Route du Rhum.

So: if you have a deep wallet and guts ......

I have read somewhere that Fabrice Amadeo has bought no way back (directly or through a partner), also reported below :

https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/voile/vendee-globe-fabrice-amedeo-newrest-aura-un-bateau-foils-5245773

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On 14-10-2017 at 8:18 PM, Santi said:

Does anyone have any foil information or research they could share?

for academic purposes! thanks

Tom Speer, one of the development engineers for the americas cup, has a site with loads of information.
http://www.tspeer.com/ 

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