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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Race website and blog links:

 

http://www.cape2rio2014.com

 

http://www.facebook.com/Cape2Rio

 

http://www.rcyc.co.za

 

Giovanni Soldini's Maserati is taking part:

 

http://maserati.soldini.it

 

http://www.facebook.com/giovannisoldini

 

University of the Witwatersrand team Facebook page:

 

http://www.facebook.com/WitsToRio2014/

 

Robinson family blog from on board Investec Ciao Bella (Mom, Dad and 5 kids age 13 to 28) came 2nd in 2011 edition.

 

http://www.teamciaobella2014.blogspot.com

 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Ciao-Bella-Cape-to-Rio-2014/294076147410189

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Wow, turbulent start to say the least! Sad to hear of the fatality though, hope all others are ok.

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How the f...do you paste links into the editor? Have tried compatibility view on IE11 (most likely the problem) but nothing works... had to type them all in manually... which sucks...

 

Race started in easy conditions but a frontal system with winds between 40 and 60 kts has hit the fleet hard. One man lost overboard and dismasting, broken rudder and a fire on board a catamaran so far...

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VSail now reporting that Isla have broadcast a Mayday....

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According to the website SAS Isla are standing by..

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FULL REPORT
Report from Cape 2 Rio Race HQ
14:00 6th January 2014

RCYC General Manager, Marcus Reuter, boarded SAS Islandwana last night as they set sail for the fleet to assist yacht Bille. Communications with SAS Islandwana have been constant and accurate and the report from Marcus were “Islandwana crew have been so professional”.
The majority of the fleet were still suffering rough sea conditions last night with poor visibility and a lot of rain this morning.

The current situation on the following yachts:

• BILLE – All crew of have now been transferred to SAS Islandwana. Two reported injured crew, the skipper with broken ribs and one crew member with lacerations. Both have been tended to by a medical doctor and all are stable and now sleeping.
Then navy managed to clear all damaged rigging and have the left the vessel to return to later. Once crew were secured, SAS Islandwana immediately left the area to go to assist yacht AVA.

• AVA – We have just had a report from SAS Islandwana that they have spotted yacht in very poor visibility. AVA sailing without power and communications but all well on board. SAS Islandwana now on their way to yacht Isla.

• ISLA reported late last night taking on water in the engine compartment and an electrical fire. They have had a container vessel Bosun, standing by for assistance since early this morning. All is under control and the yacht has decided to continue under sail to Saldanha. Smit Madura is on station with yacht Isla possibly to tow them back to port.

• BLACK CAT – NSRI Station 3 are on route to tow her back to shore due to no steerage from a broken rudder.

• INDABA – On it’s way back to port with on injured crew member.

• PEEKAY safely in harbour at Yachtport.

• DO DO, AVOCET, AVANTI & FTI Flyer – are currently heading back to shore.

• Tranquillo are only able to receive calls, otherwise all well.

A special appreciation to SAS Islandwana, the NSRI at Station 3 and MRCC, Thank You Guys!

Some trackers have been reported not to be moving but XtraLink are on top of each issue and most should be sorted by now.

Race Chairman
Ray Matthews

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Here is the forecast map issued at the time of the start with the forecast for the first night . . . 42kts sustained with gusts to 50 was the forecast.

 

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From the Cape Argus

 

Cape Town - A sailor has died, several more have been injured and at least two vessels are returning home after the Cape2Rio fleet hit a violent storm during its first night at sea.

 

The 35-strong fleet set sail at 2pm on Saturday, but were lashed by winds of up to 50 knots and 5m seas as night set in.

 

Bille, a 54-foot Angolan entrant, suffered a broken mast. Four crew members were injured and one Antonio Bartolomew, later died.

 

Sources said the yacht was “unsailable” and commercial shipping vessels in the area – around 75 nautical miles off the West Coast – were attempting to assist.

 

The SA Navy was also on standby, as were rescue choppers, which were currently inoperable due to the inclement weather.

 

Others in the fleet also suffered drama, with at least two more returning to shore.

 

Race chairman Ray Matthews reported: “All yachts reported bumpy conditions on Saturday night, with swells of 4m to 5m sometimes breaking at top and wind speed up to 50 knots.

 

“Black Cat has reported a problem with its rudder and is proceeding back to Cape Town. One crew has a sprained ankle, but all are well.”

 

Black Cat is co-skippered by acclaimed yacht designer Dudley Dix, formerly of Hout Bay but now living with his family in Virginia on the East Coast of the US.

 

The yacht Peekay reported sail problems and was on Sunday proceeding to Saldanha Bay, although its crew were “all well”.

 

Explora had reported its engine flooded – “but all well and will attend to the problem in calmer conditions”.

 

The yacht Isla had reported both engines inoperable, but its generator was working.

 

 

 

“The only yacht we have not had communication with is Avocet and we are working on the problem,” Matthews said.

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Just read a report that there has been a fatality on Bille. Really hope that isn't the case as it hasn't been reported here or on the official site.

 

Here's a link to the Yachts & Yachting article that reports it, Y&Y are usually pretty good and accurate with their reporting.

 

http://www.yachtsandyachting.co.uk/home-featured/tragedy-in-the-cape2rio/

 

Was reported here first thing in the morning, and on the official Facebook Page last night. The front page does exist.

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Here's the story of the dead sailor, António João Bartolomeu: http://www.vsail.info/2014/01/06/farewell-antonio-joao-bartolomeu/

 

He was a good sailor whose day job was sound technician at the National Radio of Angola. It's always sad to lose anyone, especially under these circumstances. The details of the accident though haven't been made public yet

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This is one of the most complete reports I have found:

 

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33152&catid=74&Itemid=30

 

"Isandlwana then proceeded to intercept Bille which was 100nm out to sea. This yacht had experienced two catastrophic events in close succession. A crew member was swept overboard, but was successfully retrieved. Shortly thereafter, the mast broke, resulting in another crew member sustaining fatal injuries and becoming trapped in the rigging. Steering was also compromised. Apart from the fatality, four crew members had also sustained injuries, including the skipper with broken ribs. Two other crew members received light injuries.

Isandlwana made radio contact with the Bille at approximately 04h00. At 05h10 a red flare was sighted and Isandlwana reached the stricken yacht at 05h27. Sea conditions were rough, with six to seven metre swells and poor visibility. The Isandlwana had to wait another hour until 07h43 before it could launch a rigid inflatable boat (Rib) to transfer the crew members from the Bille."

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Great work by the guys so far, and they seem to have a solid lead over 3rd!

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Been a bloody slow race for the slower boats. Most of the slower guys are going to struggle to make the cut off. Boat I'm delivering back was planning on being in already, now looks like a few extra days for us in Rio. Is pretty weird vibe here, no real hype for the race. In previous editions that I've sailed there has been hype and things happening. This year seemingly not much, granted there aren't many boats in and some have left already. Anyhow 2 boats came in today, the Wits university team on Amtec (SA version of a Farr 40). and a cat, Nomad charters, also the first cat in.

Can't wait to get out there and start sailing home.

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