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F1 2014 Big Changes

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Hamilton has acted this way before, not anything new. When he saw Alonso was better than him they ended falling out. He's been spoiled from day one, just look how he's been with all his teammates, his father and his girlfriend. He even got special permission last year to bring his puppy to the races which is a no-no. WTF is that all about.

Lauda has essentially said he will knock their heads together if they don't get their shit together. They will listen to him because who he is and not their boss.

Will Hamilton win the championship? No one knows but it is early days yet and so many things can happen. Just ask Felipe Massa.

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Niki Lauda didn't mince words ahead of the race regarding his opinion about the prospect of a Nico and Lewie crash. So based on how Lewie acted on Sunday Niki may have had an extra special word with him backstage. Possibly the drivers steward did too. Which is good since there's no need to make dead people out of this current rivalry.

 

Speed wise Hamilton should be faster for the rest of the year. And have it sewn up, unless he chokes which he's perfectly capable of doing, or a Nicole grenade whacks him again and shakes his confidence, and so forth. Plus the wild cards on the grids penalties for worn out powerunits and transmissions. I'm thinking that no team will make it to the end without penalties which could mix some things up in the final standings.

 

And he's no Senna. Never will be.

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I think LH's biggest challenge will be Nico and his own thoughts. His near paranoia over decisions, including "whey didn't you pit me the lap before the safety car?" shows that he is second guessing everything and not trusting that his side of the garage is doing the right think. Nico closing out Q-3 with a runoff could have been intentional considering Hamilton's quotes. Doubts are getting into Lewis' head. Nico will feed the mind games and Lewis will defeat himself. When he is out guessing his engineer, he is not doing his best driving.

 

Rivalry is good for the sport and nobody in power (Bernie) wants a runaway season. Need something to draw the crowds.

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Yes, runaway seasons are quite the yawners. Be nice to see Williams catch a bit of luck, and RBR get their speed back on again..

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I love watching the whiners come out against Hamilton.

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They heap praise on him because he is over one lap the best there is....as I said before Niki Lauda said that to be a championsip winning F1 driver you have to be an utter bastard....and he is these guys boss...

 

Hamilton is over one lap the best there is ? If you mean this year with this car, perhaps. Otherwise , it's not even close. Alonzo is much better, Vettel is better. Hamilton is a top driver but the best there is over one lap ? No one believes that other than you and him.

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I love watching the whiners come out against Hamilton.

I think Hamilton is a great driver but his behavior and statements the last couple of weeks set him up for critical analysis.

 

Just like a race boat.......Shut up and drive. Let the results speak.

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I hope he paints a big middle finger on his helmet.

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I love watching the whiners come out against Hamilton.

I think Hamilton is a great driver but his behavior and statements the last couple of weeks set him up for critical analysis.

 

Just like a race boat.......Shut up and drive. Let the results speak.

 

Yes, same with Vettel, too big for their britches..

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Poor old Vettel. As an engineer I suspect that when they changed out his chassis they reused to old wiring harness and there is some sort of problem with it. A lose connection (not broken) could give all sorts of EMI/RFI noise issues that would explain why Vettel is having issues with finding gears, K-units and engine performance. If it were a systemic problem both cars would suffer.

 

Lewis needs to shut up and drive. Conjecture about who is more "hungry" is a waste of time.

 

DR is living the dream!

 

And poor old Ferrari... God what do they have to do to get that POS up to speed? Another lost season for Alonso.

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I hope he paints a big middle finger on his helmet.

 

Lauda would tell him to HTFU and FIA would assess a fine and a 10 spot grid penalty.

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I'm digging Niki Lauda more and more over this. Yesterday he came out with the Lewis' behaviour is bad for the Mercedes brand spiel. That will put a sock in it quite quickly.

 

And I'm curious on your projections for Montreal. Lewis for the win or Lewis for the Wall of Champions? Probably depends on which one of him shows up.

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I read the transcript of the press conference and both lewis and nico put all the controversy right onto the press. Nico especially took all the gas out of their bags. Very impressive. Lauda is very good for the sport. There were number f1 shows on the dish network this weekend and one especially about the evolution of safety and how mosley, bernie, and sid watkins have literally saved 1000s of lives on race tracks and on the roadways by mandating and contributing to the advancement of technology in safety since imola in 94, impressed me. Stewart and lauda helped early on but it took the deaths in 94 and the ascendancy of mosley in the fia and bernies tv money I think to finally make a difference. I think the sport is doing a good job of leveraging the history and the older drivers in maintaining the status of f1 as the pinnacle of automotive innovation and excellence in competition and for this you need factory money and the big brands want safe but aggressive racing by the best drivers and then when out of the car they want gentlemen people can admire and cheer on. Tough balance but I think they are doing it well lately.

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LH is a fucking whiny bitch. I cant stand him. I think all you need to do is listen to his comment to his engineer right AFTER the second safety car period started...

 

"Why didnt you bring me in last lap?"

Are you fucking serious? Your engineer is supposed to be a psychic?

 

During the last 4 races NR just raced and tried to beat LH. LH doesnt win one and he throws his toys out of the pram.

 

Fuck LH

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They heap praise on him because he is over one lap the best there is....as I said before Niki Lauda said that to be a championsip winning F1 driver you have to be an utter bastard....and he is these guys boss...

Hamilton is over one lap the best there is ? If you mean this year with this car, perhaps. Otherwise , it's not even close. Alonzo is much better, Vettel is better. Hamilton is a top driver but the best there is over one lap ? No one believes that other than you and him.

No matter what you think it's all car related, if you look at his history he has been consistently faster than his teammate over one lap...Until you put them in the fastest car you cannot compare Vettel in the RB he's had for the last 4 yrs with Hamilton. If Vettel is the best why is DR beating him every race weekend this year?

 

This year he has the best car and has out qualified Nico.

 

OK he's a whiny punk gangsta rapper but he's fucking quick over one lap and I'm not the only one who thinks that, unless you think that SA is the best source of F1 info....

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LH is a fucking whiny bitch. I cant stand him. I think all you need to do is listen to his comment to his engineer right AFTER the second safety car period started...

 

"Why didnt you bring me in last lap?"

Are you fucking serious? Your engineer is supposed to be a psychic?

 

During the last 4 races NR just raced and tried to beat LH. LH doesnt win one and he throws his toys out of the pram.

 

Fuck LH

MS

Seems like you're as emotionally sensitive as he is, Nico had to put him under pressure this weekend if he was going to get back in the championship, he succeeded and we know have the prospect of a really good teammate fight.

 

His engineer should have called him in on that lap if LH was going to have a chance to win the race, it was his only chance at Monoco, if he didn't beat him to St Devotte at the start, but Mercedes doesn't allow his engineer to call it, all decisions go to Strategy central which isn't going to make an iffy decision against the leading car which has priority in pitstop call.

If anything LH should have made the decision for himself and radiod in that he was pitting which probably would have pissed off everyone on the team and may have resulted in a slow stop which may have lost him second place...

 

Fuck LH indeed.....but I bet you wouldn't give odds on him wining the WDC.....

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It's Lewis' championship to lose this year. And by backing off Sunday he kept himself in the championship. That is what Pro's are supposed to do. Win the championship.

 

Will see how Nico's PsyOps work out in Montreal.

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I read the transcript of the press conference and both lewis and nico put all the controversy right onto the press. Nico especially took all the gas out of their bags. Very impressive. Lauda is very good for the sport. There were number f1 shows on the dish network this weekend and one especially about the evolution of safety and how mosley, bernie, and sid watkins have literally saved 1000s of lives on race tracks and on the roadways by mandating and contributing to the advancement of technology in safety since imola in 94, impressed me. Stewart and lauda helped early on but it took the deaths in 94 and the ascendancy of mosley in the fia and bernies tv money I think to finally make a difference. I think the sport is doing a good job of leveraging the history and the older drivers in maintaining the status of f1 as the pinnacle of automotive innovation and excellence in competition and for this you need factory money and the big brands want safe but aggressive racing by the best drivers and then when out of the car they want gentlemen people can admire and cheer on. Tough balance but I think they are doing it well lately.

 

I watched "F1 Documentary" last night and it was one of the best 2 1/2 hours of F1 history I've seen. Set your DVR if you have one. It was Senna, Rush, Schumacher, and today's F1 races all rolled into one.

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They heap praise on him because he is over one lap the best there is....as I said before Niki Lauda said that to be a championsip winning F1 driver you have to be an utter bastard....and he is these guys boss...

Hamilton is over one lap the best there is ? If you mean this year with this car, perhaps. Otherwise , it's not even close. Alonzo is much better, Vettel is better. Hamilton is a top driver but the best there is over one lap ? No one believes that other than you and him.

No matter what you think it's all car related, if you look at his history he has been consistently faster than his teammate over one lap...Until you put them in the fastest car you cannot compare Vettel in the RB he's had for the last 4 yrs with Hamilton. If Vettel is the best why is DR beating him every race weekend this year?

 

This year he has the best car and has out qualified Nico.

 

OK he's a whiny punk gangsta rapper but he's fucking quick over one lap and I'm not the only one who thinks that, unless you think that SA is the best source of F1 info....

You read about as well as Ham drives. Didn't say vettel was the best...only that he was better than Hamilton. BTW, not a fan of either one. I'm really not a huge Alonzo fan but it is clear ( to me at least ) that he is the best of the current drivers as he gets more out of his equipment than anyone else.

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They heap praise on him because he is over one lap the best there is....as I said before Niki Lauda said that to be a championsip winning F1 driver you have to be an utter bastard....and he is these guys boss...

 

Hamilton is over one lap the best there is ? If you mean this year with this car, perhaps. Otherwise , it's not even close. Alonzo is much better, Vettel is better. Hamilton is a top driver but the best there is over one lap ? No one believes that other than you and him.

 

No matter what you think it's all car related, if you look at his history he has been consistently faster than his teammate over one lap...Until you put them in the fastest car you cannot compare Vettel in the RB he's had for the last 4 yrs with Hamilton. If Vettel is the best why is DR beating him every race weekend this year?

This year he has the best car and has out qualified Nico.

OK he's a whiny punk gangsta rapper but he's fucking quick over one lap and I'm not the only one who thinks that, unless you think that SA is the best source of F1 info....

You read about as well as Ham drives. Didn't say vettel was the best...only that he was better than Hamilton. BTW, not a fan of either one. I'm really not a huge Alonzo fan but it is clear ( to me at least ) that he is the best of the current drivers as he gets more out of his equipment than anyone else.

As I said it is car related, and the only time Alonso and Hamiton had the same car they ended up with the same number of wins, podiums and points but Hamilton scored six poles to Alonso's two, and qualified ahead 10 to 7...oh and it was Hamilton's rookie year...

 

How you can say Vettel is better when they have not been in the same car and SV had the best car for four seasons?

 

I agree that Alonso gets the most out of a mostly inferior car..every race...but he's racing for fifth place and Hamilton is racing for the win, so how can you be so sure which one is best?

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I read the transcript of the press conference and both lewis and nico put all the controversy right onto the press. Nico especially took all the gas out of their bags. Very impressive. Lauda is very good for the sport. There were number f1 shows on the dish network this weekend and one especially about the evolution of safety and how mosley, bernie, and sid watkins have literally saved 1000s of lives on race tracks and on the roadways by mandating and contributing to the advancement of technology in safety since imola in 94, impressed me. Stewart and lauda helped early on but it took the deaths in 94 and the ascendancy of mosley in the fia and bernies tv money I think to finally make a difference. I think the sport is doing a good job of leveraging the history and the older drivers in maintaining the status of f1 as the pinnacle of automotive innovation and excellence in competition and for this you need factory money and the big brands want safe but aggressive racing by the best drivers and then when out of the car they want gentlemen people can admire and cheer on. Tough balance but I think they are doing it well lately.

I watched "F1 Documentary" last night and it was one of the best 2 1/2 hours of F1 history I've seen. Set your DVR if you have one. It was Senna, Rush, Schumacher, and today's F1 races all rolled into one.

Watched it a 2nd time just now. Wow, so many drivers died. Learned a lot about the evolution in safety. Max mosley, bernie, and sid watkins apparently had more to do with safety than I thought. Max deserves a night or two with a dominatrix I'd say. Bernie buys the world wide tv rights for f1in 1976 for 1m, offers to sell them to the teams, 10% each for 100k each and the teams turn him down!

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What a race! I wont say any more until everyone has had a chance to watch it on the DVR. Epic stuff!

 

MS

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What a race! I wont say any more until everyone has had a chance to watch it on the DVR. Epic stuff!

 

MS

Indeed! Loads of fun to watch!

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I concur. One of the best Grand Prixs I have literally ever seen.

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Great race,

 

Wish we could get our Vancouver city road track back........ :)

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So who hacked the Mercs?

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Wow. Wtf happened to massa? I hope we find his car broke cause that was fucked up. Maybe we chalk it up with the rest of goofy shit with the mercs and just say they werent ready for braking 140 times from 200mph. Mclaren just missed the podium with button and poor perez got screwed. Ferraris were never in the game. Fun race for sure.

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(SPOILER ALERT) Looked like Massa started running out of track on the left trying to squeeze inside Perez, and tried a little jink to the right, but there wasn't enough room for a jink. Exit Massa and Perez. Glad they're both ok.

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(SPOILER ALERT) Looked like Massa started running out of track on the left trying to squeeze inside Perez, and tried a little jink to the right, but there wasn't enough room for a jink. Exit Massa and Perez. Glad they're both ok.

 

Looked to me like Massa lost his brakes. Horrific crash! Great race; very happy for Ricciardo! :-)

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Great race all around except Massa/Perez crash. Marussia had the biggest come down after scoring their first ever points in Monaco. Happy for Ricciardo and even happier he beat Vettel again.

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Great race all around except Massa/Perez crash. Marussia had the biggest come down after scoring their first ever points in Monaco. Happy for Ricciardo and even happier he beat Vettel again.

 

 

Yes, terrific to see Rosberg and Ricciardo beat their more ego involved team members! LOL

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I didn't see the race. Was Rosberg ahead of Hamilton when Hamilton retired?

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So,

 

Was Montreal a fluke or have we seen an Achilles heel in the ERS? Seems that this race had the potential to discharge the batteries and multiple high speed braking opportunities to bias rear braking significantly toward recharge. Surprised Merc was not able to change ERS settings to dial it down a bit to save the brakes.

 

Great to see RIcciardo with the win but gotta credit Rosberg for a great drive in nursing a crippled car home to the podium.

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

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.

 

but gotta credit Rosberg for a great drive in nursing a crippled car home to the podium.

That's the stuff of champions.

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

You think Montreal is going to be harder on the system than Imola?

 

On first glance I thought Massa just ran into the back of Checko. But the stewards gave Perez a 5 grid spot penalty so clearly they put the blame on him. Smedley had a bit of a go at FI and SP.

 

"I think it was lap 67, [he was] talking about having no rear brakes. So they told him to carry on if he could, and if you can't then to pit, which seems to me to be a fairly f***ing terminal problem to be honest.

"Why you leave a car out when you've got that sort of problem is beyond me.

 

MS

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

You think Montreal is going to be harder on the system than Imola?

 

 

 

 

I should have said "to date"

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The perez penalty was a surprise. It looked to me like massa hit him though i guess if perez braked way early and caught massa out they might blame him. Guess we should ask derek daly.

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The perez penalty was a surprise. It looked to me like massa hit him though i guess if perez braked way early and caught massa out they might blame him. Guess we should ask derek daly.

 

5 grid penalty? What, for the next race? Usually the guy that runs into the back of someone is at fault??

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Not if the guy in front jinks to the left and then brakes hard!

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The perez penalty was a surprise. It looked to me like massa hit him though i guess if perez braked way early and caught massa out they might blame him. Guess we should ask derek daly.

 

Given the overtaking speed that Massa had, you do have to wonder. Stewards said Perez moved left under braking away from his racing line and caused it.

I think Perez' response to Smedley was they cleared up the problem. Perhaps Rosberg should have also retired as well to make Smedley happier since he was off pace.

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

 

You think Montreal is going to be harder on the system than Imola?

 

 

I should have said "to date"

They are not racing F1 at Imola.

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

You think Montreal is going to be harder on the system than Imola?

 

 

I should have said "to date"

They are not racing F1 at Imola.

 

Oh yeah, Monza.

 

lol.

 

When is the LeMans race at Imola anyway?

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Well, Montreal would be probably the hardest on the system, so I think this was the worst case scenario. I do think that the ability to dial it down will be on tap shortly though.

You think Montreal is going to be harder on the system than Imola?

 

 

I should have said "to date"

They are not racing F1 at Imola.

 

Oh yeah, Monza.

 

lol.

 

When is the LeMans race at Imola anyway?

Doh! Err Duh. My bad. Monza is going to be brutal on the rear brakes

 

MS

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The perez penalty was a surprise. It looked to me like massa hit him though i guess if perez braked way early and caught massa out they might blame him. Guess we should ask derek daly.

Given the overtaking speed that Massa had, you do have to wonder. Stewards said Perez moved left under braking away from his racing line and caused it.

I think Perez' response to Smedley was they cleared up the problem. Perhaps Rosberg should have also retired as well to make Smedley happier since he was off pace.

Was just chatting with 13 yo son on this and yes massas overtaking speed going into the braking zone was huge. If he could have made the turn the perez was early on the brakes. We dont remember perez moving left but its common for those guys to cheat back toward the clean line. Weird deal. Maybe derek daly is tweeting or some such shit. He was the driver steward I think they said.

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Wait- there seems to be a lot of talk about crashes yet Maldonado's name has yet to come up..........

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24 hours of Le Mans is this weekend. We get it from start to stop. Is it on in the states? Webers first big outing in the Porsche 919 hybrid. Should be exciting.

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24 hours of Le Mans is this weekend. We get it from start to stop. Is it on in the states? Webers first big outing in the Porsche 919 hybrid. Should be exciting.

 

Thanks for reminder to set the DVR!! :D

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24 hours of Le Mans is this weekend. We get it from start to stop. Is it on in the states? Webers first big outing in the Porsche 919 hybrid. Should be exciting.

 

Thanks for reminder to set the DVR!! :D

 

Oh fuck

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1guuj_dmnk

 

Pretty surprising they have no coverage of the actual crash. A couple of stills and video of the aftermath. A real testament to the Audi chassis that Duval is conscious, escaped serious injury, and expected to be fine. He has, however, been ruled out of the 24 Hours and replaced by Marc Gene.

 

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Watching qualies now and it has been carnage!!! Extended second session later tonight so people have time to do their 5 laps etc.

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What network is Le Mans on please? Nearly 2,000 fucking stupid channels on the fucking Xfinity cable, and we only need a dozen.

 

They need to unbundle this shit or they will go broke, as we get smart, like our kids, and just hook a laptop with a VGA cable and watch FREE TV..

 

Just need one of our kids to come home and set it up, I reckon!! :unsure:

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Nearly 2,000 fucking stupid channels on the fucking Xfinity cable, and we only need a dozen.

 

They need to unbundle this shit or they will go broke,

No it's the the government that requires the bundles because the Foreign Language channels cannot support themselves so we have to pay for them so the non english speakers can watch their native bs.

 

God bless telemundo and their slutty dressed latinas though :)

 

The Telecommunications Act really needs to be re-written.

 

 

Yes, Dawg; Latinas are some of the hottest babes on the planet. Also, some of the most batshit crazy, in my limited experience! LOL

 

EDIT.. But I sure wish this one chick from the DR had not moved to Florida....(sigh)

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No Fox Sports 2 on Xfinity here, WTF???

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That was as good as any other year I've seen. I thought Audi was going to be left in the dust. Lots of intriguing stories throughout the field.

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No Fox Sports 2 on Xfinity here, WTF???

First 8 and last 8 were on FS1

 

Not here it wasn't. Just the last 30 minutes.

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No Fox Sports 2 on Xfinity here, WTF???

 

First 8 and last 8 were on FS1

Not here it wasn't. Just the last 30 minutes.

Interesting. I recorded it on FSHD, which is normally the same as FS1. Watching hour 21 right now.

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No Fox Sports 2 on Xfinity here, WTF???

First 8 and last 8 were on FS1

Not here it wasn't. Just the last 30 minutes.

Interesting. I recorded it on FSHD, which is normally the same as FS1. Watching hour 21 right now.

 

Yeah, no idea why. We have Cox Cable down here FWIW. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

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Heartbreaker for toyota. Rain in the first few hours really set the tone. Waves of carnage. Interesting was the different hybrid systems. Flywheeels, recovery on braking only and then like f1 recovery on turbo and on braking. Porsche was surprisingly good. What a race. Porsche, there is no substitute......except audi at le mans. Hopefully they come back along with toyota but with three cars.

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First pole position for Massa after many years.

 

And congrats to Williams for the 1-2 in the qualifying.

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Cool track. I think bottas may have had pole stolen but not sure. Good anyway for williams and massa. Biggest smile on claire williams yet ive seen anyway. Would be cool for sir frank to have another win. I predict first lap carnage. Crazy track.

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Great race!! Great to Austria back in the game. Nico speaking to them in German was excellent. Hard to believe the same guys are changing the tires for Rossberg and Hamilton; a full second difference???? Congrats to Williams!!

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Great race!! Great to Austria back in the game. Nico speaking to them in German was excellent. Hard to believe the same guys are changing the tires for Rossberg and Hamilton; a full second difference???? Congrats to Williams!!

The same could be said about Williams. Massa's team has been consistently slower than Bottas'.

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Great race!! Great to Austria back in the game. Nico speaking to them in German was excellent. Hard to believe the same guys are changing the tires for Rossberg and Hamilton; a full second difference???? Congrats to Williams!!

The same could be said about Williams. Massa's team has been consistently slower than Bottas'.

 

I assumed they each had their own team, but one of the guys said it was same guys doing both for Team Mercedes??

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I could not understand why williams kept those guys out. They needed to pit right after mercedes. Still they made the podium which was cool. I think vettels troubles are beyond the realm of chance. Either he doesnt know how to push the buttons on the wheel or the team are giving him a year off for being a dick. I know it sounds far fetched and it probably is....:)

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Smedly said their tire deg was such that if they had come in right after Mercedes they would not have made the end of the race

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Smedly said their tire deg was such that if they had come in right after Mercedes they would not have made the end of the race

Thanks. Wow, I think I would have rolled the dice a bit but I guess by race time they know way more than me. Thats got to be hard to do. Leave your drivers out knowing they may will probably lose the lead.

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I think Vettels problems are with the wiring loom. The car has not been right since they changed out the chassis. Always electrical, comes and goes... I would scrap the entire wiring for a new one.

 

Gatta give a hat tip to Alonso. just out of 3rd overall with a less that perfect car.

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I think hamilton will still win the championship. Many races left and he is the faster driver. Unless of course he pisses off his team and then they will not give him their best. Doesnt take much to tip the scales. Few psi here or there, wheel nut mishap....makes me wonder if vettel pissed off his team. What are the odds of him having so many problems and his team mate not? Maybe oliver stone should make an f1 film :)

 

Do you still think Lewis is gonna do it? I have my doubts now with the resurgence of Williams and McLaren starting to garner some points. Red Bull, OTOH, appear to be lost in the desert???

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I think hamilton will still win the championship. Many races left and he is the faster driver. Unless of course he pisses off his team and then they will not give him their best. Doesnt take much to tip the scales. Few psi here or there, wheel nut mishap....makes me wonder if vettel pissed off his team. What are the odds of him having so many problems and his team mate not? Maybe oliver stone should make an f1 film :)

Do you still think Lewis is gonna do it? I have my doubts now with the resurgence of Williams and McLaren starting to garner some points. Red Bull, OTOH, appear to be lost in the desert???

Not with as much confidence as before for sure. I almost quoted myself as the thing shows up at the top every time I visit. Its getting embarrasing. Long season though. I would rather rossberg win but I really thought hamilton was the faster driver. Rossberg has stepped up his game or hamilton has lost his way a bit or the team are truly providing equal equipment and not favoring a driver which may have helped hamilton in the past. I think ferrari are favoring alonso though with good reason because he really gives it all every time behind the wheel. He's becoming one of my favorite drivers since I began following in 1983. Really good season so far. I hop kimi hangs in there and starts getting more in tune with the car. The vettel thing is just wierd. A new car sounds like a good idea. Anything to change it up. I cant remember when two cars on the same team performed so differently from a reliability standpoint.

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I think hamilton will still win the championship. Many races left and he is the faster driver. Unless of course he pisses off his team and then they will not give him their best. Doesnt take much to tip the scales. Few psi here or there, wheel nut mishap....makes me wonder if vettel pissed off his team. What are the odds of him having so many problems and his team mate not? Maybe oliver stone should make an f1 film :)

Do you still think Lewis is gonna do it? I have my doubts now with the resurgence of Williams and McLaren starting to garner some points. Red Bull, OTOH, appear to be lost in the desert???

Not with as much confidence as before for sure. I almost quoted myself as the thing shows up at the top every time I visit. Its getting embarrasing. Long season though. I would rather rossberg win but I really thought hamilton was the faster driver. Rossberg has stepped up his game or hamilton has lost his way a bit or the team are truly providing equal equipment and not favoring a driver which may have helped hamilton in the past. I think ferrari are favoring alonso though with good reason because he really gives it all every time behind the wheel. He's becoming one of my favorite drivers since I began following in 1983. Really good season so far. I hop kimi hangs in there and starts getting more in tune with the car. The vettel thing is just wierd. A new car sounds like a good idea. Anything to change it up. I cant remember when two cars on the same team performed so differently from a reliability standpoint.

The last 2 seasons in the case of red bull!

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It's pretty early to call a winner between LH and NR. Ferrari would have broken up Vettels 4 championships if Grosjean had not destroyed Alosno's car in 2012 (I think). Maldonado could easily take Nico out the same way. That being said Nico seems like a cooler customer than Lewis, less bothered by the things going on around him or where his dog will stay at the track... I think Nico learned a lot from his time with MS.

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IIRC, this is a new car for Vettel. Didn't they go back to the preseason "practice chassis" after 2 races?

 

Last year the story was the Vettle did a much better job than MW at adapting his driving style to the nuances of the RBR 9. This year it seems he can't put more than a couple of laps together at speed, even when his car is working.

 

I have to give him credit. Although he shows understandable frustration in the car when things go sideways, he is pretty mellow with his comments when a microphone gets shoved into his face. He acknowledges the lack of pace, admits they are down on power and that has to change and that's about it. No rant. No sign of friction between him and his engineers (other than "tell me what to do!" When things go Wong with the car).

 

Much classier than ignoring team orders last year. Humility looks good on him.

 

Hamilton, on the other hand, seems to be playing physiological warfare with himself.

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IIRC, this is a new car for Vettel. Didn't they go back to the preseason "practice chassis" after 2 races?

 

Last year the story was the Vettle did a much better job than MW at adapting his driving style to the nuances of the RBR 9. This year it seems he can't put more than a couple of laps together at speed, even when his car is working.

 

I have to give him credit. Although he shows understandable frustration in the car when things go sideways, he is pretty mellow with his comments when a microphone gets shoved into his face. He acknowledges the lack of pace, admits they are down on power and that has to change and that's about it. No rant. No sign of friction between him and his engineers (other than "tell me what to do!" When things go Wong with the car).

 

Much classier than ignoring team orders last year. Humility looks good on him.

 

Hamilton, on the other hand, seems to be playing physiological warfare with himself.

 

and losing it.

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physiological? you mean psychological?

Yep. Foiled by fat thumbs, an Idevice and autocorrect once again!

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Hope the DVR Brigade set an extra hour.

Not a bad result after LH screwing up his Quali run because he thought he heard the fat lady singing

How whiney did Vettel sound on the radio re Fernando's exceeding limits...especially considering his move to pass was clearly off track

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Spoiler alert......

Qualifying amazing to see the times drop at the last 60 seconds

Massa's quick reactions saved Kimi being t-boned.

Ricciardo again proves to be great value for the team - 28 points clear of Vettel.

Good to see Williams so competitive with their car

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Kimi looked fucked up walking to the medical car. Sure hope hes ok. Boy is vettel a whiner. Second track in a row with a dirt jump in it. Totally agree that bottas and ricciardo are good value for money this year though alonso continues to race the tires off the ferrari. Great racing today here and there. The alonso vettel fight was good but would have been better without listening to vettels in car.

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The diffence between Vettel and Alonso's whining was that Vettels got televised. Alonso complained repeatedly about Vettel as well.

Btw Alonso was the one who actually got a warning from the stewards for going off-limits (without receiving any further penalty despite repeating the offence).

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Best race of the season so far today!

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If only they start sounding different than NASCAR trucks...

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Ricciardo is totally towelling Vettel big-time this year.

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Forgot to tape it, so thanks for not giving the results! LOL!

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Forgot to tape it, so thanks for not giving the results! LOL!

Replay tonight on NBC Sports at midnight, EST.

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Thanks, IB!! I found a reairing on like Tuesday; so this is much better..

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