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...........I'll put one down for the biggest moth fleet -ever- :rolleyes:

 

 

.....''As of this evening, entries have now gone past the 70 mark. In accordance with the Notice of Race, the fee will rise once we pass 100 boats. Don’t delay!''..........that's a smart way to get entries and fund$ flowing early ;)

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There is no such thing as weather unlike anything Hayling Island has had before. Freeze, heat-wave, tornado, hurricane, calm, storm, it's had them all. OK, I'd be surprised if a typhoon appeared.

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There is no such thing as weather unlike anything Hayling Island has had before. Freeze, heat-wave, tornado, hurricane, calm, storm, it's had them all. OK, I'd be surprised if a typhoon appeared.

 

Yes, since typhoons occur in the western Pacific Ocean. If such a storm appeared at Hayling, it would be a hurricane.

 

As for picking a winner, better to wait as there are a few big names yet to enter.

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Whoa whoa whoa. lets keep this weather chat in hand!

 

Seeing as I'm a dinghy sailor and therefore, of course, a weather expert (despite having no discernable qualifications of any sort) I am using this fact, together with the fact that it's at my home club, to personally GAURANTEE* the following weather stats:

 

There is a 49.5% chance it will be lighter winds than the mean wind strength for that time of year

There is a 49.5% chance it will be windier than the mean wind strength for that time of year

There is chance that it will be the same wind as the mean wind strength for that time of year for every second of the entire world championships...but that chance is not very big, almost as small as the chance of me winning.

 

So, based on those facts, hopefully no one else will enter. that way I might have a chance of making the top 100.

 

 

*not a gaurantee

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Yes, since typhoons occur in the western Pacific Ocean. If such a storm appeared at Hayling, it would be a hurricane.

But have you considered the possibility that a tornado might first pick up Hayling and drop it in the Pacific?

 

P.S. Thanks, however I know what "typhoon" means.

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It could be interesting getting back to the club over the sandbar on an outgoing tide with a nice 20 knot sea breeze, fun on my Laser, but wouldn't want to do it on my Moth!

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Yes, since typhoons occur in the western Pacific Ocean. If such a storm appeared at Hayling, it would be a hurricane.

But have you considered the possibility that a tornado might first pick up Hayling and drop it in the Pacific?

I'm sure the Hayling–ites would love to be transported from dear old Blighty to a tropical location. :-)

 

GIven Scott's handling of the Yeppoon slop, he'll go pretty well if it gets messy. But so will a few others…

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It could be interesting getting back to the club over the sandbar on an outgoing tide with a nice 20 knot sea breeze, fun on my Laser, but wouldn't want to do it on my Moth!

Normally the club tries to schedule racing to avoid that necessity. It can mean however that if you are out, you are out until the race officer intends you to come in.

 

Sea breeze doesn't really kick up the waves that can appear in the entrance. It takes more southerly to do that, when in the right conditions it gets very interesting for a couple of hundred yards. Unless by "sandbar" you mean the Winner, in which case the simple answer is to avoid it.

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The club is just inside Chichester Harbour. On mid-ebb in a strong southerly, you get large steep waves in the channel for about 200 yards, near the harbour entrance. This isn't part of the racing area but it is on the way to/from. These aren't common conditions, especially not in summer but they can happen. Race officers will normally aim to schedule racing so competitors aren't sailing home against mid-ebb if those conditions apply.

 

Racing is likely to be in Hayling Bay where waves are generally small/medium and wind-blown chop rather than swell, especially in summer.

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130 entries, two weeks to go, stilll no Bora?

Bora posted on f/b about 2 hours ago that he isn't going to be there.

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130 entries, two weeks to go, stilll no Bora?

Bora posted on f/b about 2 hours ago that he isn't going to be there.

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........Bora too bu$y now,,,he's sending his brother....

 

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Another all aussie podium to be expected? Who else is going fast? Are the Kouton or burling expected to be last minute entries?

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Another all aussie podium to be expected? Who else is going fast? Are the Kouton or burling expected to be last minute entries?

 

Kouton is in Garda whis/next week, so I guess he may be there...

 

 

My totally uneducated guess :D is that the title will stay in UK, on an Exocet (I'd say Rob Greenhalgh).. does anyone else want to pick up a personal favorite?

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My guess:

1st Nathan Outtridge AUS

2nd Scott Babbage AUS

3rd Josh McKnight AUS

4th Rob Gough AUS

5th Andrew McDougall AUS

Provocative, but in reality, on local waters, there might be a couple of poms in there too. Exocet foils have been good in the light and Macita foils have been fast up range. The AUS boats are mostly Mach 2 gear. Weather dependant, and no one is prepared to predict the UK weather. Looking forward to seeing everyone again.

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I don't think "local waters" makes a lot of difference in Hayling Bay. The tide and sea breeze behaviour are all well-documented for anyone who takes the trouble to find out, which doubtless all the top guys will be doing.

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will be interesting to see good aussies on the new mach 2 verticals and how they go against the exocets. Only Goodie has the new verts in the UK and he's only used them in 2 races at one very marginal event so we couldn't really see what they could do. one suspects that the exocets may not be quite as dominant as they are normally, laregley because all the people with exocets are the best UK sailors barring one or two exceptions.

 

obviously Ben Paton is favourite though. that's a completely non-scientific and 100% unproven fact

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Another all aussie podium to be expected? Who else is going fast? Are the Kouton or burling expected to be last minute entries?

 

Kouton is in Garda whis/next week, so I guess he may be there...

 

 

My totally uneducated guess :D is that the title will stay in UK, on an Exocet (I'd say Rob Greenhalgh).. does anyone else want to pick up a personal favorite?

In order for the title to 'stay' in the UK, it would have to currently reside there. But it lives in Detroit, or maybe Cagliari these days. Light air = Rashley, Babbage. medium-heavy = outerridge, greenhalgh.

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Another all aussie podium to be expected? Who else is going fast? Are the Kouton or burling expected to be last minute entries?

 

Kouton is in Garda whis/next week, so I guess he may be there...

 

 

My totally uneducated guess :D is that the title will stay in UK, on an Exocet (I'd say Rob Greenhalgh).. does anyone else want to pick up a personal favorite?

In order for the title to 'stay' in the UK, it would have to currently reside there. But it lives in Detroit, or maybe Cagliari these days. Light air = Rashley, Babbage. medium-heavy = outerridge, greenhalgh.

 

Ahah.. correct! I meant of course for it to go to a local sailor :)

 

I am very curious as well to see the performance of mach2 new verticals. What about sails? in Europe people this year seem to go to north h13/14 or Lennon sails, but I'm guessing guys from below will be running mostly the latest msl16, right?

I'm getting a new boat in a month and I still don't have a sail and a boom.. that's why I'm pretty interested in all the latest kit :D.

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Unless the aussies have made some big leaps in speed since last year I think it will be a mixed top 10 of Brits and Aussies.

 

I would not write off Mike lennon if its light, he has one the last 2 opens in the UK...

 

BenPatonRacing.com is the favourite, I imagine even right now he is mentally rehearsing going down the last run to win the worlds.........

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In the meantime, in day one of the Italian championship in Garda (foiling week), Josh McKnight and Kotoun in front. A couple of Brits also there

 

http://www.foilingweek.com/for-sailors/results/

 

As usual, awesome photos by Martina Orsini https://www.flickr.com/photos/imca-italy

 

new foredeck and boom from Amac

https://www.flickr.com/photos/imca-italy/14391274359/

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I think it's the same foredeck, it looks like he has just added a faring, but I could be wrong. FYI Rob Gough did that back in belmont.

 

The kinked boom looks good, really tidies up the mainsail foot, but makes the bottom of the pocket look a lot worse.

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Ben Paton did the whole event like that, his sole means of propulsion was swimming. He was still annoyed not to win.

 

Little known fact: Ben Paton taught The Zohan how to swim.

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Love this shot from Day 3 of the Italy nationals. Well done Josh

 

Caption contest?

The hell with a caption, I'm still trying to figure out how they got there. Apparently without breaking anything, either. ???

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Congratulations Mike Lennon in the less–than–optimal conditions.

 

Everyone set for the Worlds? Will there be breeze? Seems the Poms have the light stuff sorted better than the rest.

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Forecast is moderate for the 1st three days, light by Tuesday. Currently in cliched UK summer weather pattern "three fine days then a thunderstorm".

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....it's noon in UK,,,and the biggest -ever- moth fleet is AWAY!......almost!

 

....some delay for winds,,,and there's some mighty strong currents from the sound of it,,,but ~140 boats are rigged and ready.

 

 

 

...is the BATfoiler one of them?....how's the weight on those solid wings?

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....it's noon in UK,,,and the biggest -ever- moth fleet is AWAY!......almost!

 

....some delay for winds,,,and there's some mighty strong currents from the sound of it,,,but ~140 boats are rigged and ready.

 

 

 

...is the BATfoiler one of them?....how's the weight on those solid wings?

 

Probably at least 15-20kg if built strong enough to actually handle a capsize or two. Maybe more to make it disassemble-able.

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...is the BATfoiler one of them?....how's the weight on those solid wings?

 

Probably at least 15-20kg if built strong enough to actually handle a capsize or two.

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..umm,,,what's the norm for these?

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...is the BATfoiler one of them?....how's the weight on those solid wings?

 

Probably at least 15-20kg if built strong enough to actually handle a capsize or two.

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..umm,,,what's the norm for these?

 

That weight was for a wing, done by a home builder I mean. Most Mach2's are in the mid-high 30kg range ready to sail; a 40mm mast is a bit over 2kg, boom about 1.5kg, sail something like 4-5kgs. Then rigging, prodder etc. - so maybe 10kg max for a conventional rig.

 

The primary question is whether less drag trumps less weight, and the secondary question is 'how good are you at designing wings' to compete with the sailing range that a conventional rig can deal with. Designing a wing for a wide wind and angle range is really difficult.

 

Actually, the VERY first question is, 'can you design a wing that fits within the class rules'.

 

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...is the BATfoiler one of them?....how's the weight on those solid wings?

 

Probably at least 15-20kg if built strong enough to actually handle a capsize or two.

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..umm,,,what's the norm for these?

 

That weight was for a wing, done by a home builder I mean. Most Mach2's are in the mid 30kg range ready to sail; a 40mm mast is a bit over 2kg, boom about 1.5kg, sail something like 4-5kgs. Then rigging, prodder etc.

 

The primary question is whether less drag trumps less weight, and the secondary question is 'how good are you at designing foil shapes' to compete with the sailing range that a conventional rig can deal with. Designing a wing for a wide wind and angle range is really difficult.

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...looks damn -sexy- at least

 

...found a webcam on the outside...seems enough breeze ,,haven't figured if it might have a mothview

http://www.intheelements.co.uk/blog/webcam/hayling-island-webcam/

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...ummm...here's the best I can get for info feed so far :mellow: ........ http://www.hisc.co.uk/sailing-racing/open-events/moth-worlds-2014/

 

Latest News

World Championships - Day 1

Due to the poor early morning weather conditions, the first races for the Moth Worlds on Saturday were delayed to 13:00 hrs.

Yellow and Blue flights released to go afloat at 12:00 hrs

First races underway at 13:15 in 13 knots of breeze

Fleet returning to shore (16:15) with just three races completed between the two flights, 69 boats in each flight.

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Delay was more due to tide. Scheduled start was1.00. Committee set Blue and yellow courses overalpped so blue had to wait 45mins till yellow finished before getting started. Then Blue fleet got one race in fading wind, Yellow fleet got two. Sent home at 4.30 due to change of tide. Weid place, bad day on the water, not all due to weather. Too much waiting around. Hope tomorrow goes better.

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..thanks Phil...is there any newsfeed or twitter anywhere??

.........in case something -does- happen

 

 

 

.......it sounds like those overlapping courses with ~140 moths -could- have added an interesting element to spectator appeal...a major photo op,,,and -many- insurance claims missed!! :mellow:

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...news from th'front---I hope the wind picked up a bit :huh: ...

 

World Championships - Day 2

Blue fleet from Saturday are playing catch-up with their second flight race. When that is completed (first attempt has been abandoned) the rest of the Moths will be released to do Sunday's race schedule.

Wind is very light in the Bay, 5 knots from the North.

Blue flight completed their race from yesterday, winner Josh McKnight of Australia, second Scott Babbage AUS and third Ben Paton GBR. See race results

Today's yellow flight race underway . . .

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Second day much like the first. Yesterday's blue fleet went out at 10 to do one race to catch up, but it did not complete till 11.30 so we then split to new fleets and struggled until 4pm.

 

This time the new blue fleet got two but the yellow got only one. Very long day. Its now 6 and there are stilll boats strugling to get back into the harbour. We had a couple of starts where almost no one foiled so they abandonned, not good for the leaders, Gough in one and Rashley in the other. Not good for me as I was leading the lowrider majority.

 

What a place its about 2 km to the course through a channel which flows at about 5kts, so races have to be timed so we can get in and out of the channel with the current. As well when the wind blows on shore and the tide runs out, there are huge waves which have to be sailed through, this happened before the regatta but its been too light so for. But who knows what will happen later in the week. We are spoil in Aust with great sailing venues. Tides, mud, gravel beaches, shallows and no wind, that UK.

 

No idea who is leading but we now have another set of qualifying races tomorrow. Today's tellow go out ealy to catch up. At least there is more wind forecast.

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....thanks for the innerview...sounds pretty gritty for a worlds,,,don't let it get you down--you know the brits are playing with you!

 

,,,are those waves the reason for some development of longer blades?

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Tides, mud, gravel beaches, shallows and no wind, that UK.

Bit of a generalisation, Phil. The last Moth worlds in the UK had too much wind.

 

Any venue with not enough wind is not good. Hayling with wind is a glam venue which is why so many world and euro championships are held there and why it usually gets big turnouts. It is also why it is one of the biggest clubs in the UK.

 

Sounds as if it is suffering from the usual championship "it isn't usually like this here" syndrome!

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Sounds as if it is suffering from the usual championship "it isn't usually like this here" syndrome!

 

I think he's suffering from the 6–hours–on–the–water–in–a–small–unstable–boat–but–only–got–one–race syndrome. Especially virilent when it happens a few days in a row.

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Tides, mud, gravel beaches, shallows and no wind, that UK.

My God, Aussies are certainly world champions at whinging.

 

UK, being in the firing line for Atlantic weather systems, is, on average, one of the world's windier sailing venues. It hasn't so far been a very windy summer but there's some breeze this morning.

 

5 knots in the channel, not vaguely close at neaps which as what you are experiencing. The club fixed start line goes across the channel. Do you think the club could do that if the tide ran at 5 knots?

 

Huge waves in the channel. Yes they can be very impressive for a couple of hundred metres, in 20knots+ southerly, on a strong ebb. I've sailing through there 100+ times, I've experienced big standing waves exactly once and that was because I decided to head home early. If I'd been returning when the race officer planned, no waves. HISC will plan the event so you don't see those conditions except, possibly, people wanting to sail home while racing is still going on. It's right that the safety officer covered the point but most if not all competitors will never see those conditions.

 

If you've found mud, you were seriously lost. HISC is on sand and gravel. The peninsula is called "Sandy Point" for a reason.

 

Shallows. Yes, there are shallows. Not in the race area but on the way there, if you ignore the safety briefing. I'd avoid them and go where the locals tell you if I were you. Every year a few visitors think they know better, every year someone capsizes and breaks a mast bouncing on the bottom.

 

Enjoy the rest of your week.

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Same conditions for everyone, stop whinging and get your head back in the boat.

 

From the Y&Y report sounds like there has been some good racing so far and surely some varied conditions are good for the class and development in general?

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,,,are those waves the reason for some development of longer blades?

 

No personal experience, but Amac at the foiling week said that the rudder is longer because at high speed the boat is now carried very bow down.

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Only 4hours today for one early race in quite good foiling conditions. We had another 3 or 4 yellow fleet starts abandonned due to fading wind. Long slow sail home. Even longer for the Blue fleet who were further out to sea. Qualifiers over, results on the web site. I had a couple of reasonably good races but with my early results from yesterday I am well into the blue fleet for the finals.

 

The RC is using the 2003 class championship guidlines (pre universal foiling) which has a min wind strenth of 6kts, as this is about the wind needed for class pres, Scott Babbage to take off, the cynics recon they only have to watch Scott and abandon the race if he drops off the foils.

 

Last night at the AGM we decided the wing bouncing technique for take off was a too obvious a blatant violation of rule 42 and several of us decided a few protests would clean it up. Quite a few people headed the warning and reformed their act and were amazingly well back in the fleet from where they were yesterday.

 

Finals tomorrow, no lay day as we are behind schedule. Wind forecast is for yet another direction and probably not much strength. We are at least geting used to it.

 

If our myopic english friend has not seen mud at hayling he has not looked inland at low tide. If he wants to see an idyloc sailing venue he should come to the Sorrento Moth Worlds next January. Better winds not guarenteed but much more likely.

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...tough series.....what's the threshold weight between the foilers,non-foilers in these winds,,,,,,,now that the pumping issue's been addressed?

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I’ve just finished the day 3 report together with Tom Gruitt photos, Beau Outteridge sailor profile video of Nathan Outteridge and Louay Habib interview with Paul Goodison – read all about it at http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/177868/International-Moth-Worlds-day-3

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...great coverage..goodOnya!....any link to the twitterfeed?

 

...does the lead fleet carry points forward or start again??

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If our myopic english friend has not seen mud at hayling he has not looked inland at low tide. If he wants to see an idyloc sailing venue he should come to the Sorrento Moth Worlds next January. Better winds not guarenteed but much more likely.

I can certainly confirm that within the harbour, where you are not sailing, there are some great big mud banks at low tide, particularly off Thorney island. I have hit them at great speed on too many occasions, once even sticking my 49er bowsprit into the mud so hard that the boat was left standing on its nose.

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Good Lord. If sailing at HISC at the height of summer is too hard or unpleasant then those Moths must be even more awkward and fussy to sail than I imagined. They are amazing looking craft and I have enjoyed watching you all this week whilst consuming ice cream on the shingle (not mud!) beach on Hayling Island. I do so hope you don't disappear up your own backsides like windsurfers, only wanting to play when conditions are perfect. Yes, the winds have been on the light side but in every other sense it has been standard HISC, which is undoubtedly the premier salt water dinghy club in the UK and I'd imagine quite possibly has more members and more world/Olympic medal members than any other club in the world.

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Now you have gone and done it Phil.

 

Sorrento will either be glassy calm for 2 weeks or go 110% nuclear like Belmont...

 

Anyone that says sailors aren't superstitious is kidding themselves.

 

Saw

 

Only 4hours today for one early race in quite good foiling conditions. We had another 3 or 4 yellow fleet starts abandonned due to fading wind. Long slow sail home. Even longer for the Blue fleet who were further out to sea. Qualifiers over, results on the web site. I had a couple of reasonably good races but with my early results from yesterday I am well into the blue fleet for the finals.

 

The RC is using the 2003 class championship guidlines (pre universal foiling) which has a min wind strenth of 6kts, as this is about the wind needed for class pres, Scott Babbage to take off, the cynics recon they only have to watch Scott and abandon the race if he drops off the foils.

 

Last night at the AGM we decided the wing bouncing technique for take off was a too obvious a blatant violation of rule 42 and several of us decided a few protests would clean it up. Quite a few people headed the warning and reformed their act and were amazingly well back in the fleet from where they were yesterday.

 

Finals tomorrow, no lay day as we are behind schedule. Wind forecast is for yet another direction and probably not much strength. We are at least geting used to it.

 

If our myopic english friend has not seen mud at hayling he has not looked inland at low tide. If he wants to see an idyloc sailing venue he should come to the Sorrento Moth Worlds next January. Better winds not guarenteed but much more likely.

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"Further down the fleet there is some frustration about the time limits. Dave Chisholm, who is racing one of the home-build Moths said, "The problem is you've got guys with brand-new kit that are really good sailors; America's Cup sailors, Olympic sailors and World Champions, particularly in the marginal foiling conditions they're off. For the guys with the older kit who've come here for the craic of the whole thing and to support the event finishing within 15 minutes of the top guys is impossible, especially in these marginal conditions. I got lapped by the first windward mark today and I foiled most of the way. The guy with the oldest boat here has sailed in every race and he hasn't got a single result and they need to think about that. It is of course about the elite sailors that are here, but they need to think about those sailors who are further down the fleet."

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/177867/International-Moth-Worlds-results

 

 

q1. Are they not using the 'finish on the lap' you are on (i.e. when the leader finishes) rather than score a DNF/C

 

q2. will Sorrento use that 'race car' system ( i.e. finish on the lap you are on)

 

q3. what will the time limit be at Sorrento?

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q1. Are they not using the 'finish on the lap' you are on (i.e. when the leader finishes) rather than score a DNF/C

 

q2. will Sorrento use that 'race car' system ( i.e. finish on the lap you are on)

 

q3. what will the time limit be at Sorrento?

 

a1: They are not using a lapped style finish system at Hayling.

 

a2: Sorrento will use the lapped style finish as confirmed in the NOR which is now online. This will mean we won't have a gate at the bottom like they are using at Hayling, just a rounding mark with maybe an offset as well.

 

a3: I'd expect the time limit to be 15 minutes, although with a lapped style finish you would get a result if you just do one lap.

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...tough series.....what's the threshold weight between the foilers,non-foilers in these winds,,,,,,,now that the pumping issue's been addressed?

Not at all, and wing bouncing has proven to be even more effective. At most starts the bouncers get up on foils and dissapear over the horizon. The leaders including all the professionals will not protest each other, and the straglers do not get much of a chance to see whos up to it in a 70 boat (half) fleet so there have been no protests. And its pretty hard to remember a string of sail numbers for 4 hours and edit out all the starts which were abandonned. The one I pinged yesterday got off with a N flag. The jury unfortunately have ben instructed to be passive. I think its bad for the class and bad for sailing.

 

We are using the lap finish system otherwise 2/3 the fleet would have majority alphabet scores.

 

The time limit here is 10 mins to first mark, and 15mins after the winner. There is no absolute limit posted. They are running twolap races over about an NM leg so its hard to make the 1st mark in time. They are also using an old 6kt class regatta limit. We might change these for Sorrento but SIs have been held back anticipating lessons from Hayling.

 

The photo is not Sorrento but Mornington 30 miles away, 90deg different orientation and in a wnter storm

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the winds have been on the light side but in every other sense it has been standard HISC, which is undoubtedly the premier salt water dinghy club in the UK and I'd imagine quite possibly has more members and more world/Olympic medal members than any other club in the world.

 

And a bigger ego, I would dispute its premier status try Weymouth, Mounts Bay, Lyme Regis, Pwhelli and I could go on.

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...the bouncing issue sounds tough....have yer thought of jumping-in with the bouncers Phil--kinda like trying to sail Lasers at Kiel in the 80's!?

 

....hmmm..looking pretty light,,I guess that's why phil's still online,,and Gawd knows when the tide-window is http://www.intheelements.co.uk/blog/webcam/hayling-island-webcam/ ......can someone get the cafe to clean-off the camera housing?.....those bugs are a bit freeky---definitely -not- moths :mellow::blink:

 

 

.........from the sounds of it,,,I'll bet the bigB's pretty happy he was too 'busy' to make it to Hayling

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The class is at a cross roads in some repects.

 

A lot of the top sailors think we should get ISAF approval to dump rule 42. They do not comply with it and think pumping and bouncing is fair game. If that happens we are openning ourselves up to new as yet un explored techniques and could end up with something as stupid as sailboard air rowing. I happen to be one of a sizable group who think that is the wrog way to go.

 

Pumping is another issue which has worried some juries in the past, even before foiling. Its hard for non mothies to understand that often repeated rapid sheet movements are about balancing a small narrow, unstable boat and hence good seamanship not pumping. So differentiating between balance pumps and foil initiation pumps is not achievanle by the observer. Pumping has been accepted and that has lead on to wing bouncing which works much better. But wing bouncing is easilly identified and hence managble if the intent is there to enforce rule 42.

 

On the other hand its hard to set a lower wind limit which is equiable to everyone. The present 6kt allows only a few light people to take off (without bouncing) and so is unfair to most people over 75kg. If we increase that limit we may end up like the formula sailboards who do not race until they get 12 or 15kts.

 

I have been sailing moths long befire they were foilers and think its still a dinghy class which should race even if foiling is not possible, we are afterall just like every other small dinghy, doing much the same speed so why can we not race. Its not what most new mothies want but its more fun that sitting ashore like this morning or worse still waiting on the water like we have for the last few days. The way the weather forcast is looking there might not be any more racing this week, and that would be a disaster.

 

At the AGM the other night we decided we should try to encforce rule 42 wrt bouncing by protesting. There will be a IMCA committe review of our rule 42 observation and wind limits. I suspect that the wind limit may remain, and that bouncing will be policed but that pumpin.

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The class is at a cross roads in some repects.

 

A lot of the top sailors think we should get ISAF approval to dump rule 42. They do not comply with it and think pumping and bouncing is fair game. If that happens we are openning ourselves up to new as yet un explored techniques and could end up with something as stupid as sailboard air rowing. I happen to be one of a sizable group who think that is the wrog way to go.

 

I have been sailing moths long befire they were foilers and think its still a dinghy class which should race even if foiling is not possible, we are afterall just like every other small dinghy, doing much the same speed so why can we not race. Its not what most new mothies want but its more fun that sitting ashore like this morning or worse still waiting on the water like we have for the last few days. The way the weather forcast is looking there might not be any more racing this week, and that would be a disaster.

 

At the AGM the other night we decided we should try to encforce rule 42 wrt bouncing by protesting. There will be a IMCA committe review of our rule 42 observation and wind limits. I suspect that the wind limit may remain, and that bouncing will be policed but that pumpin.

 

... cross roads indeed,,,I hear your pain--you've seen a 'few' changes in your time sailing moths......backwater kisch to bleeding edge!!

 

...I noticed in the SI's a restriction to changing foils on the water(!) which says to me that there's no restriction to playing a quiver of foils day to day($$!!) on shore....this must create a rather large division between the ''have's'' and the ''don't have $o much'$''.....perhaps it's time for two divisions in the fleet---the go-for-it's have a 50' support boat with a quiver of boats sitting rigged and bounce-all-yer-want ,,,,,,,,,,,,and the old schoolers,who register one set of gear,,and have 'Dick Rose' on the Jury.

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My god, Poms are certainly world champions at defending shitty sailing conditions!

 

 

My God, Aussies are certainly world champions at whinging.

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