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Ha! I was gonna start this thread this morning, beat me to it...

 

I'm looking for a ride if anyone hears anything. Have several buddies who are looking too. SAS certified. Experience on everything from Swans to HPR and in between. Laid back and very easy to get along with. Same for mates...

 

PM me for cv and experience.

 

Cheers,

Murphness

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Ha! I was gonna start this thread this morning, beat me to it...

 

I'm looking for a ride if anyone hears anything. Have several buddies who are looking too. SAS certified. Experience on everything from Swans to HPR and in between. Laid back and very easy to get along with. Same for mates...

 

PM me for cv and experience.

 

Cheers,

Murphness

 

I think one of the boats in portland maine is still looking for some crew, it's an old beneteau 45, they've done the race a number of times.

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Uno. Doing it DH with Tristan Mouligne. After we plow our way there, I drop him off and use the return delivery plus a few miles as my solo qualifier for the RdR

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Picked the following off the FAQ for the 2014 rule changes. Seems like a good thing to me -

 

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Q: What is the reasoning behind the adoption of time penalties for the 2014 Race?
A: For many years, the BROC has imposed monetary penalties for failure to satisfy eligibility, entry, measurement and registration requirements. These monetary penalties have proven ineffective in the case of some deep-pocketed racers, and have led to an increasingly burdensome entry process and to the potential for unfair advantage for racers who may wish to make last-minute sail and other gear decisions dependent on weather forecasts. To counter this disturbing trend, BROC has replaced monetary penalties with elapsed time penalties beginning in 2014. These apply to administrative matters rather than infractions that may be associated with sailing the race course, and are designed to provide a level playing field (eligibility and measurement) or an orderly race administration (entry and registration).
The penalty for failure to meet eligibility, entry, measurement and registration requirements in a timely manner shall be the addition of 10 minutes to the yacht’s elapsed time for each 24 hour period or any part thereof for which the yacht failed to meet the relevant deadline. Such requirements include any rule having a deadline, e.g. late supplemental information form, rating data, fees, crew waivers, satisfactory completion of inspection, and registration appearances.

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Uno. Doing it DH with Tristan Mouligne. After we plow our way there, I drop him off and use the return delivery plus a few miles as my solo qualifier for the RdR

So all you anarchists keep the questions for RM to a minimum during the race!...I need RM to focus! As a matter of fact...am I going to disconnect Dragons Inmarsat....hmmmm

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Uno. Doing it DH with Tristan Mouligne. After we plow our way there, I drop him off and use the return delivery plus a few miles as my solo qualifier for the RdR

So all you anarchists keep the questions for RM to a minimum during the race!...I need RM to focus! As a matter of fact...am I going to disconnect Dragons Inmarsat....hmmmm

Don't you know - your job is to drive, trim, and navigate. Mike's job is to keep all of us updated.

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Sinn Fein.

 

I honestly haven't been added as crew for the race, but I can say that we're confident that she'll be there.

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Driver & main trimmer - Widow Maker

 

Are you in need of those things? Send me a PM if so...

 

Cheers,

 

Murphness

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Picked the following off the FAQ for the 2014 rule changes. Seems like a good thing to me -

 

_________________________

 

Q: What is the reasoning behind the adoption of time penalties for the 2014 Race?
A: For many years, the BROC has imposed monetary penalties for failure to satisfy eligibility, entry, measurement and registration requirements. These monetary penalties have proven ineffective in the case of some deep-pocketed racers, and have led to an increasingly burdensome entry process and to the potential for unfair advantage for racers who may wish to make last-minute sail and other gear decisions dependent on weather forecasts. T

a number of boats did this including one named in this thread. ignore the deadline, optimize, pay the penalty.

 

oh.. tits

 

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR11u_nPI1XgunY_KkM84XQSWGOftbYAC9BnjgnBrUA4BcwoS4Vwg

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Doing it on a Tartan 47. I'll be the one on the back grilling steak.

If we swing by with some ribeyes and asparagus will ya toss em on the grill for a couple minutes? Thanks in advance

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Doing it on a Tartan 47. I'll be the one on the back grilling steak.

If we swing by with some ribeyes and asparagus will ya toss em on the grill for a couple minutes? Thanks in advance

No Problem

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Hey Jonathan- got your slot on Resolute with Scott- sorry you won't be there! Looking forwards to trading tacks with Tristan and Kristen.

 

Gust

Sounds like fun, Gust. Good luck to the Pen Bay team!

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Maybe... ;-)

 

It's tough to get away with my new business responsibilities....

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Hey Jonathan- got your slot on Resolute with Scott- sorry you won't be there! Looking forwards to trading tacks with Tristan and Kristen.

 

Gust

 

I'm expecting great things from you guys. After the absolute trouncing Scott and Resolute dished out on the many race courses they traversed last season, I'm wagering you'll do quite well in June. Hope to see you out there.

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Maybe... ;-)It's tough to get away with my new business responsibilities....

Responsibilities have to be met- but life is short, we"re all gonna die, a few weeks sailing not gonna be missed...

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I'd love to crew for this race if anyone is looking.

Suggest you get on Race website and register on the Crew board, if you haven't already.

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The Bermuda race website has announced that 180 boats have signed up for the race this year, but as with prior years, some won't make it to the starting line. For example on April 4, 2012, there were 183 boats signed up but only 165 ended up starting. If we exclude those that have not yet declared the class in which they intend to race, we get 170 boats or a 3% increase in entries over last year. The average number of entries from 1998-2012 is 186.4.


The double handed class has seen the most growth, in fact it’s the only class whose numbers have exceeded the centennial 2006 fleet.



NB_Historical_Entries_2014.jpg

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If anyone finds themselves in need of another body for the race, let me know. Sadly, Charlie Kiefer, owner of Nirvana, passed away and so I'm looking to make another run on a different vessel. Resume and references available on request. Multiple Bermuda, Halifax and Chi-Mac races completed in a highly competitive fashion. Good attitude and filthy jokes served daily.

 

My info is on the crew boar but can't hurt to whore myself out here as well.

 

Ryan

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If anyone finds themselves in need of another body for the race, let me know. Sadly, Charlie Kiefer, owner of Nirvana, passed away and so I'm looking to make another run on a different vessel. Resume and references available on request. Multiple Bermuda, Halifax and Chi-Mac races completed in a highly competitive fashion. Good attitude and filthy jokes served daily.

 

My info is on the crew boar but can't hurt to whore myself out here as well.

 

Ryan

Sad news. Sorry, Mate. Always admired that boat but never got a chance to meet Charlie in person.

 

Good luck finding a ride.

 

Cheers,

 

Murphness

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I'm in. It will be my first ocean race since the fire. Heading down Sunday to sail the boat from Antigua to Lauderdale.

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The 'Sled is in!

 

Can't make the race this year, but I'll be bringing the boat down to Newport; hope to see some familiar faces!

 

HW

Nice! Are you guys coming back for RHSP too?

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If anyone finds themselves in need of another body for the race, let me know. Sadly, Charlie Kiefer, owner of Nirvana, passed away and so I'm looking to make another run on a different vessel. Resume and references available on request. Multiple Bermuda, Halifax and Chi-Mac races completed in a highly competitive fashion. Good attitude and filthy jokes served daily.

 

My info is on the crew boar but can't hurt to whore myself out here as well.

 

Ryan

Sad news. Sorry, Mate. Always admired that boat but never got a chance to meet Charlie in person.

 

Good luck finding a ride.

 

Cheers,

 

Murphness

Thanks Murphness.

 

Charlie was as generous as they come and gave many people an opportunity to play on a scale that would have otherwise been impossible. It was always a bit of a 'Bad News Bears' menagerie of crew, but Charlie liked to keep things interesting.

 

rw

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I hope so! I think it'll depend on how many crew will be available to bring the boat back from Bermuda, see how hard the can push her.

 

There's plenty of time between the two though, hopefully we can do it again! But without the rig repeat of last year...

 

HW

 

 

The 'Sled is in!

Can't make the race this year, but I'll be bringing the boat down to Newport; hope to see some familiar faces!

HW

Nice! Are you guys coming back for RHSP too?

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Greetings:

 

 

 

If you are in need of crew for the trip from Halifax or Bermuda, I am an experienced, and easy to get along with, sailor looking to add some offshore miles this year. If you are looking, I can send you my sailing resume and such.

 

 

Hope to hear from you.

 

 

 

Greg

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So it's now officially less than a month away.

 

Who wants to take bets on the weather? Better yet, who wants to look at the weather over the North Pacific and recent solar flare activity and make wildly inaccurate guesses that we can all debate?

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So it's now officially less than a month away.

 

Who wants to take bets on the weather? Better yet, who wants to look at the weather over the North Pacific and recent solar flare activity and make wildly inaccurate guesses that we can all debate?

I will be arriving in Newport in 2 weeks - looking forward to my first Bermuda Race. It will be fun crewing for a change......

 

Cheers,

opusone

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I'm in. Practices this weekend.

what boat? See you in a couple weeks.

I try not to broadcast names any more but the mighty Andrews 68, Terrapin. ex:Shindig ex:Titan.

 

Good on a reach I think!

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bermudarace.com posted the 2nd Gulf Stream tutorial today - have not had a chance to look at it, but am very interested to see if that HUGE meander has moved east or what.

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Excuse my newberesence, but can anyone explain to me the basics of the tactics involved regarding the gulf stream for this race?

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Excuse my newberesence, but can anyone explain to me the basics of the tactics involved regarding the gulf stream for this race?

 

In short, you want to hit the favorable current created by an eddy or meander to speed your thrash to the onion patch along. OR you want to avoid hitting unfavorable current, especially if the wind shits out on you and you end up drifting backwards.

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See you there gang.

 

Got myself a ride on Azura, a fine looking yacht.

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wind looks pretty crappy for the first day or two at least.

 

might be a sea breeze near the shore.., but no gradient breeze for when we get offshore

 

ugh...

 

hopefully it will improve

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have fun m.

 

I am taking the advice everyone gave me after my virgin ride on the Decision last time 'round in 20-30 knots up the ass the entire way: "You'll never get another one like that, so don't even try!"

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I said that after last years Down the Bay race and somehow I fucked up and did it again.

 

Hopefully a reasonably quick trip to Bermuda this year, I'm too busy to bob around the Gulf Stream for a couple days.

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So it's now officially less than a month away.

 

Who wants to take bets on the weather? Better yet, who wants to look at the weather over the North Pacific and recent solar flare activity and make wildly inaccurate guesses that we can all debate?

I will be arriving in Newport in 2 weeks - looking forward to my first Bermuda Race. It will be fun crewing for a change......

 

Cheers,

opusone

 

What boat?

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So it's now officially less than a month away.

 

Who wants to take bets on the weather? Better yet, who wants to look at the weather over the North Pacific and recent solar flare activity and make wildly inaccurate guesses that we can all debate?

I will be arriving in Newport in 2 weeks - looking forward to my first Bermuda Race. It will be fun crewing for a change......

 

Cheers,

opusone

 

What boat?

Entropy - Tripp 41. I think you are familiar with the boat.....

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note:This race two years ago was EVOS last ocean race,he called it,he sailed with his mate Lorenzo and we have a great photo from the start where you can tell he is telling the bloke on the boat to leeward to shaddaup.

Make it a good one and we will be watching from afar :D

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Looks horrible. If you're planning on going, I'd really reconsider. Tell you skipper you're suddenly not well and I will happily take your place and spare you a long agonizing journey to a place that, according to my sources, just ran out of rum. Not one drop left. That's if you even make it there. With lights wind and shifty currents it wouldn't shock me if some boats arrive 7 days after the start missing one or two portly ballast technicians and evidence of cannibalism. Take a long look at your fellow cremates and if you can't identify the person you'd eat first, well, I bet they wouldn't have that same problem. If they ask you what you weigh it's not about keeping weight off the bow, it's about how many can feed off of you once the PB & J runs out.

 

Seriously, why subject yourself to such a thing? Save yourself and I will subject myself the all of the horrors on your behalf.

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Does anybody else think this is not really acceptable?

 

from the N2B website:

 

"Sailing Instructions Will be posted online simultaneously with the start of the Captains Meeting. (Approximately 1630hrs on June 19)"

 

I do not believe the SI's have been posted so late in the past...

 

One purpose of the meeting is to ask questions...!

 

In case you are unfamiliar with the SI's for this race, in the past, it has been about a 20 page document, with quite a lot of detailed instructions about starting and finishing, including required communications etc.

 

I might not even have access to a printer after they post these things!

 

we don't even really know the marks of the course yet - sure, you say, it's newport to bermuda, but there are govt marks to be honored in newport, and govt marks to be honored in bermuda. we don';t even have any info about the finish line yet.

 

well, the finish line is probably the same as every past year, but i think some of the govt marks to be honored in the approach have changed over the years.

 

the scratch sheet is not posted and we don't know what time our start will be

 

I just can't think of any good reason to with hold the SI's for such a big event till 18hrs before the start!

 

entries have been closed for weeks, and they are making it really tough to change your rating, so what's the problem with publishing a scratch sheet?

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Does anybody else think this is not really acceptable?

 

from the N2B website:

 

"Sailing Instructions Will be posted online simultaneously with the start of the Captains Meeting. (Approximately 1630hrs on June 19)"

 

I do not believe the SI's have been posted so late in the past...

 

One purpose of the meeting is to ask questions...!

 

In case you are unfamiliar with the SI's for this race, in the past, it has been about a 20 page document, with quite a lot of detailed instructions about starting and finishing, including required communications etc.

 

I might not even have access to a printer after they post these things!

 

we don't even really know the marks of the course yet - sure, you say, it's newport to bermuda, but there are govt marks to be honored in newport, and govt marks to be honored in bermuda. we don';t even have any info about the finish line yet.

 

well, the finish line is probably the same as every past year, but i think some of the govt marks to be honored in the approach have changed over the years.

 

the scratch sheet is not posted and we don't know what time our start will be

 

I just can't think of any good reason to with hold the SI's for such a big event till 18hrs before the start!

 

entries have been closed for weeks, and they are making it really tough to change your rating, so what's the problem with publishing a scratch sheet?

 

because the tightwads on the RC don't give a crap about the racers and enjoy jerking everyone around?

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so i was including the NOR in my 20 page estimate for past years - actually the SI's were 9 pages, including the ammendemnts.

 

and it seems that we got the scratch sheet at the meeting last time

 

so i retract part of my rant.

 

still, i don't see why we can't have SI's a few days before the race

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MeteoEarth is showing 20-25 most of the way starting late Saturday afternoon.

 

 

GFS and most of the human forecasts have that SW at 15-20 pretty far south - below the front.., so the problem is you have to get to it...

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Does anybody else think this is not really acceptable?

 

from the N2B website:

 

"Sailing Instructions Will be posted online simultaneously with the start of the Captains Meeting. (Approximately 1630hrs on June 19)"

 

I do not believe the SI's have been posted so late in the past...

 

One purpose of the meeting is to ask questions...!

 

In case you are unfamiliar with the SI's for this race, in the past, it has been about a 20 page document, with quite a lot of detailed instructions about starting and finishing, including required communications etc.

 

I might not even have access to a printer after they post these things!

 

we don't even really know the marks of the course yet - sure, you say, it's newport to bermuda, but there are govt marks to be honored in newport, and govt marks to be honored in bermuda. we don';t even have any info about the finish line yet.

 

well, the finish line is probably the same as every past year, but i think some of the govt marks to be honored in the approach have changed over the years.

 

the scratch sheet is not posted and we don't know what time our start will be

 

I just can't think of any good reason to with hold the SI's for such a big event till 18hrs before the start!

 

entries have been closed for weeks, and they are making it really tough to change your rating, so what's the problem with publishing a scratch sheet?

 

SIs are now posted. Decided not to print them out at work lest that tempt the "oh hey can you do this thing at the last minute" god.

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Excited, but nervous about the forecast. The Texas Tower Station is forecasting 3 knots NW through Sunday. The Bermuda Station is forecasting 18 SE moving to SSE Monday.

 

What do you think the real conditions will be?

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Got buds on Nanuq, High Yield, Reindeer, and gotta shout out to my lifeboat pal from the SAS seminar and alumni on Red Sky! Be safe! Sail Fast!

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Does anybody else think this is not really acceptable?

 

from the N2B website:

 

"Sailing Instructions Will be posted online simultaneously with the start of the Captains Meeting. (Approximately 1630hrs on June 19)"

 

I do not believe the SI's have been posted so late in the past...

 

One purpose of the meeting is to ask questions...!

 

In case you are unfamiliar with the SI's for this race, in the past, it has been about a 20 page document, with quite a lot of detailed instructions about starting and finishing, including required communications etc.

 

I might not even have access to a printer after they post these things!

 

we don't even really know the marks of the course yet - sure, you say, it's newport to bermuda, but there are govt marks to be honored in newport, and govt marks to be honored in bermuda. we don';t even have any info about the finish line yet.

 

well, the finish line is probably the same as every past year, but i think some of the govt marks to be honored in the approach have changed over the years.

 

the scratch sheet is not posted and we don't know what time our start will be

 

I just can't think of any good reason to with hold the SI's for such a big event till 18hrs before the start!

 

entries have been closed for weeks, and they are making it really tough to change your rating, so what's the problem with publishing a scratch sheet?

 

because the tightwads on the RC don't give a crap about the racers and enjoy jerking everyone around?

 

SI's are posted: http://bermudarace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Sailing-Instructions-6-17-14.pdf

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You can at least get a clue as to your class and starting time by checking out the tracker and doing the math...and yeh, pretty pityful!

YGFLI

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