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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils
-27’ beam
-30 tons
-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)
-Speedboat sized rig
-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)
-Twice the hull volume of WOXI
-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)
-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

Building where?

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

Building where?

 

 

Somewhere in Maine USA ;)

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

No daggerboards that we can see so looking based on the "some unconventional underwater thinking" statement, some form of lee board similar to scows perhaps.... that or the boards are still being figured out and it will have standard boards

 

possible dss foil package since oats proved it was useful and the drawings could be prior to sydney to hobart

 

Manual Grinders will stay for the records pending the boat gets up and goes better than speedboat

 

bigger question is who is the builder???

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

No daggerboards that we can see so looking based on the "some unconventional underwater thinking" statement, some form of lee board similar to scows perhaps.... that or the boards are still being figured out and it will have standard boards

 

possible dss foil package since oats proved it was useful and the drawings could be prior to sydney to hobart

 

Manual Grinders will stay for the records pending the boat gets up and goes better than speedboat

 

bigger question is who is the builder???

 

 

Not too many builders in Maine with experience of 100' + yachts, are they ?

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

No daggerboards that we can see so looking based on the "some unconventional underwater thinking" statement, some form of lee board similar to scows perhaps.... that or the boards are still being figured out and it will have standard boards

 

possible dss foil package since oats proved it was useful and the drawings could be prior to sydney to hobart

 

Manual Grinders will stay for the records pending the boat gets up and goes better than speedboat

 

bigger question is who is the builder???

The boards are obviously not on the drawing right now. Comment from the project manager was "Fairly conventional asym boards, uncurved." This ain't a foiling monomaran, in other words. I do not think there are DSS or DSS-style lifting foils on the boat. Should be a lot more info coming out in a week or two.

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Here's the look. Design: VPLP/VerdierPurpose: Record breakingSchedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart. Photo credit: spring fever -Conventional foils-27’ beam-30 tons-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)-Speedboat sized rig-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)-Twice the hull volume of WOXI-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

No daggerboards that we can see so looking based on the "some unconventional underwater thinking" statement, some form of lee board similar to scows perhaps.... that or the boards are still being figured out and it will have standard boardspossible dss foil package since oats proved it was useful and the drawings could be prior to sydney to hobartManual Grinders will stay for the records pending the boat gets up and goes better than speedboatbigger question is who is the builder???
Not too many builders in Maine with experience of 100' + yachts, are they ?

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com/

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didn't BG just prove this corner of the box, the whittled scow, doesn't work in a typical "mixed grab bag" of conditions? like when the far far shorter Ichi Ban caught up to her? and the V70s led her South?
this is possibly further into that corner.

Appears a 'between the capes' southern ocean RTW design, or trans-ocean long-distance distance compatible, ie not relying on weeks or months supply of diesel.

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didn't BG just prove this corner of the box, the whittled scow, doesn't work in a typical "mixed grab bag" of conditions? like when the far far shorter Ichi Ban caught up to her? and the V70s led her South?

this is possibly further into that corner.

 

Appears a 'between the capes' southern ocean RTW design, or trans-ocean long-distance distance compatible, ie not relying on weeks or months supply of diesel.

I really don't think one race proves much of anything.

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(regarding the 'type') it was pretty obvious before the race i reckon

 

when you are THAT FAR in the corner of box, that is dealing with extremes the results will reflect that

as opposed to all-rounders say

 

should do passages in hard weather well

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the lack of powered winches gives away the fact that the Hobart race is something of an afterthought. Clark and Oatley are old friends and they will be happy to watch their respective monsters play, but I reckon the real deal will be breaking Mari Cha's record for the Transat, and most likely getting the 24 hour record too.

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Carbon Ocean Yachts maybe?

 

the carbon ocean 80 is being built up at front street shipyard up in belfast maine. they'd probably be up for the job of a 100 footer. thy certainly have the facilities. and from what I hear some great people too. and hodgdon would absolutely be able to build a 100+ footer. if it's being built in maine it'll be either front street shipyard or hodgdon.

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If they are launching for Hobart 2014, then they probably are already in build. just a guess.

 

That foedeck looks a bit scary for whom ever has to work up there. They better be a billy goat

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Carbon Ocean Yachts maybe?

 

the carbon ocean 80 is being built up at front street shipyard up in belfast maine. they'd probably be up for the job of a 100 footer. thy certainly have the facilities. and from what I hear some great people too. and hodgdon would absolutely be able to build a 100+ footer. if it's being built in maine it'll be either front street shipyard or hodgdon.

 

Wouldn't Lyman Morse be an option too? Although Paris' boat was built there, and that didn't last long... But unknown yet if that was the builder's fault or the designer or the sailor. My wife's family has a cottage right across the river from Hodgdon, so if it is built there I'll try to sneak across for some pics...

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Carbon Ocean Yachts maybe?

 

the carbon ocean 80 is being built up at front street shipyard up in belfast maine. they'd probably be up for the job of a 100 footer. thy certainly have the facilities. and from what I hear some great people too. and hodgdon would absolutely be able to build a 100+ footer. if it's being built in maine it'll be either front street shipyard or hodgdon.

 

Wouldn't Lyman Morse be an option too? Although Paris' boat was built there, and that didn't last long... But unknown yet if that was the builder's fault or the designer or the sailor. My wife's family has a cottage right across the river from Hodgdon, so if it is built there I'll try to sneak across for some pics...

 

they have the facilities but LM has limited experience building boats that big. and to my knowledge they have limited experience building racing boats.

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Record breaking monohull ROFLMFAO!

 

Umm, one would presume that would be a boat designed to break monohull records. Some guys aren't particularly interested in the outright record or sailing a multihull, just as some guys don't like to sail with a crew while other guys have no interest in going out solo.

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Has Hodgen built any race boats this big? I would think Front Street would have been a good option, lots of talent in that company.

Hodgdon is the most advanced composites shop in Maine for something like this. They have a division building stuff for the Department of Defense. A race boat, while in itself a challenge, isn't going to severely test their capabilities. I'm sure it'll be a crunch for time though, as with a lot of these projects.

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If they are launching for Hobart 2014, then they probably are already in build. just a guess.

 

That foedeck looks a bit scary for whom ever has to work up there. They better be a billy goat

.

IF it were gonna make it to Sydney by xmas the yard (whichever) would be building already, but would need more than a cartoon to go by?

 

more to this story not being told.

 

example from another thread, somewhat supporting Rails 'foredeck' comment/observation !

....

or worse one of those cartoonish renderings on the front page that nobody cares about because there's about a .02% chance of it ever being built.

 

 

Oh, so far whats above can be had for $3.79

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.idreams.iSailboatPROHD

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Clean said "in build"

 

… is there any Anarchist who could drop by with a camera and try and sneak a picture of it?

 

not likely unless they have access to the hodgdon build shed, not much gonna be going on outdoors, it is february in maine after all...

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If they are launching for Hobart 2014, then they probably are already in build. just a guess.

 

That foedeck looks a bit scary for whom ever has to work up there. They better be a billy goat

.

IF it were gonna make it to Sydney by xmas the yard (whichever) would be building already, but would need more than a cartoon to go by?

 

more to this story not being told.

 

example from another thread, somewhat supporting Rails 'foredeck' comment/observation !

....

or worse one of those cartoonish renderings on the front page that nobody cares about because there's about a .02% chance of it ever being built.

 

Oh, so far whats above can be had for $3.79

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.idreams.iSailboatPROHD

 

 

Of course a lot of this story is not told. Pretty normal for such a project.

 

But the program "head" being known and now the owner one can "feel" that this is serious and in full move.

As said earlier the project nickname was whispered at the time of the AC finals by a number of industry professionals, meaning that detail work was moving forward.

Of course as this is a fully private project everybody remains tight-lipped but, that was 4 months ago and one can guess it must now be well advanced.

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Jesus you are a bunch of paranoid freaks.

 

It might not make the Hobart but it will definitely be sailing this winter. I have 40 minutes of video about it that will be up today.

 

That makes the last three super maxis coming from American owners, and the last two coming from American yards (Rambler + Cubed).

 

With Oatley off on the AC and Croakie going one-design, is the era of the Aussie supermaxi over? I think so!

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Jesus you are a bunch of paranoid freaks.

 

It might not make the Hobart but it will definitely be sailing this winter. I have 40 minutes of video about it that will be up today.

 

That makes the last three super maxis coming from American owners, and the last two coming from American yards (Rambler + Cubed).

 

With Oatley off on the AC and Croakie going one-design, is the era of the Aussie supermaxi over? I think so!

Are you going to tell Anthony Bell that? Thought you were pals with Loyal?

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Sorry - the "Aussie-created Supermaxi"

 

Not sure Bell will be back BTW. It was a lot more expensive than he realized, and the campaign was literally out of money at the start line.

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pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

 

pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

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pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

 

>pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

 

Well aren't you a special kind of asshole. Stop polluting good threads and take your bullshit somewhere else.

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Would be sad to see loyal and bell. Not going again . Any word on the video from Clarke ??

I have the video and compressed it enough to post I think. Not terribly interesting about the boat, but interesting about the man. Give me a few hours.

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pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

 

Sure you did, Mr. "J/120". Sure you did.

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pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

 

>pretty sure it is in build here:

 

http://www.hodgdonyachts.com

Wow...: scooped me on that one. Actually you copied and pasted.

 

And don't tell me you sat on it for a while. Boats been in build and I've known for months.

 

Oh, sorry, I'm on SA, Clean, I love you. You are the end all for sailing.

 

 

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Did I not post before you? Sure I did. Sure I did.

And I'm sure you've known for months. You must be proud to hold such secrets in your prodigious brain.

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I clicked on this thread to read about a new yacht being built. Am I in the wrong place?

 

STFU!

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Always gotta be a hater. Hey Moonduster - can you please direct me to the website where the first rendering and the first verified information and numbers on Clark's new boat were posted? Oh yeah...

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Hey Blockhead,

 

Try and keep up, will you? My reference had nothing to do with Clark's new boat. It had to do with the incessant bickering of people like you who reduce every thread to a senseless exchange of petty bickering over things that have nothing to do with the content of the thread or the interests of those who are reading them.

 

Do you really think you're adding value? Don't you think perhaps it's time to grow up?

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Jim Clark Video - Full (including his "rich guy's moth trimaran" and some jokes as well as all the New Cubed info)

 

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KR offers insight as to what this boat is being built for. Answers a lot of the questions and comments previously talked about on this thread. Bottom line is, there are some very cool boats being built right now!

 

http://www.thedailysail.com/offshore/14/66242/1/ken-read-on-jim-clarks-new-100ft-maxi

 

Is anybody able to post a full copy of the Daily Sail article ? Any guesses who the airline owner might be? Not Branson surely!! Didn't he shit himself the last time he tried the transat record?

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didn't BG just prove this corner of the box, the whittled scow, doesn't work in a typical "mixed grab bag" of conditions? like when the far far shorter Ichi Ban caught up to her? and the V70s led her South?

this is possibly further into that corner.

 

Appears a 'between the capes' southern ocean RTW design, or trans-ocean long-distance distance compatible, ie not relying on weeks or months supply of diesel.

I'm with you.

 

What fat-bummed maxis have been a real success? WOXI (and Alfa before her) seemed to win because they can be driven at 90% 100% of the time without becoming out of control surfboards.

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didn't BG just prove this corner of the box, the whittled scow, doesn't work in a typical "mixed grab bag" of conditions? like when the far far shorter Ichi Ban caught up to her? and the V70s led her South?

this is possibly further into that corner.

 

Appears a 'between the capes' southern ocean RTW design, or trans-ocean long-distance distance compatible, ie not relying on weeks or months supply of diesel.

I'm with you.

 

What fat-bummed maxis have been a real success? WOXI (and Alfa before her) seemed to win because they can be driven at 90% 100% of the time without becoming out of control surfboards.

I would attribute Wild Oats and Alfa winning not because they can be pushed harder, but because they aren't completely useless in under 12 knots of breeze. Loyal didn't lose the Sydney to Hobart because she couldn't push as hard as WOXI. She lost because she wasn't designed for light winds.

 

Boats like Loyal and New Cubed are designed to be pushed hard when the weather gets tough and they're basically supposed to be the out of control surfboard that you say is bad. Which it might be, but it's not the reason they lose, because the heavy air performance is there. But the light air performance just doesn't exist.

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didn't BG just prove this corner of the box, the whittled scow, doesn't work in a typical "mixed grab bag" of conditions? like when the far far shorter Ichi Ban caught up to her? and the V70s led her South?

this is possibly further into that corner.

 

Appears a 'between the capes' southern ocean RTW design, or trans-ocean long-distance distance compatible, ie not relying on weeks or months supply of diesel.

I'm with you.

 

What fat-bummed maxis have been a real success? WOXI (and Alfa before her) seemed to win because they can be driven at 90% 100% of the time without becoming out of control surfboards.

 

 

I would attribute Wild Oats and Alfa winning not because they can be pushed harder, but because they aren't completely useless in under 12 knots of breeze. Loyal didn't lose the Sydney to Hobart because she couldn't push as hard as WOXI. She lost because she wasn't designed for light winds.

 

Boats like Loyal and New Cubed are designed to be pushed hard when the weather gets tough and they're basically supposed to be the out of control surfboard that you say is bad. Which it might be, but it's not the reason they lose, because the heavy air performance is there. But the light air performance just doesn't exist.

 

 

yes, I really ment 'arse-dragging, fat-bummed...'.

 

You never no, maybe they've sorted out the canting/ballast/weight ratio so it can be sailed on her ear in the fourth mode

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Possibly the "fat bummed" Loyal that this year went poorly in the light, actually went poorly relative to Oats because it was just too heavy, I understand it is close to 30% heavier than Oats (ie almost 8 tonnes more)

 

If the fat-arsed boats weighed in a similar league to Oats (as this new boat apparently will), then the light air VMG running conditions that cost Loyal this year will not be such a handicap.

 

Remember that Loyal had a significant lead on Oats after the first night of light air ( sub 12 knots anyway) sailing. If the new fat arsed thing was only say 1 knot slower rather than 4+ knots slower in the sub 10 knot VMG running conditions that were experienced on the second day, then it may well have been game over for the skinny boat.

 

You might be surprised how most fast Loyal would VMG run if it weighed 20% less than it does. That is a lot of weight. I guess we will find out in time.

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Possibly the "fat bummed" Loyal that this year went poorly in the light, actually went poorly relative to Oats because it was just too heavy, I understand it is close to 30% heavier than Oats (ie almost 8 tonnes more)

 

If the fat-arsed boats weighed in a similar league to Oats (as this new boat apparently will), then the light air VMG running conditions that cost Loyal this year will not be such a handicap.

 

Remember that Loyal had a significant lead on Oats after the first night of light air ( sub 12 knots anyway) sailing. If the new fat arsed thing was only say 1 knot slower rather than 4+ knots slower in the sub 10 knot VMG running conditions that were experienced on the second day, then it may well have been game over for the skinny boat.

 

You might be surprised how most fast Loyal would VMG run if it weighed 20% less than it does. That is a lot of weight. I guess we will find out in time.

About 6-7 tons heavier on IRC certificate data, but I'd venture to suggest that despite the all star crew Loyal isn't yet anywhere near fully sorted - it has sailed precisely 2 races since rebuild and one of those was a jolly around Sydney Harbour. The WOXI team has 8 years worth of know-how on how to make it go.

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Here's the look.

 

Design: VPLP/Verdier

Purpose: Record breaking

Schedule: Splash October/First race 2014 Sydney Hobart.

Photo credit: spring fever

 

-Conventional foils

-27’ beam

-30 tons

-Loooooong keel (“Ubelievable amount of stability” - KR)

-Speedboat sized rig

-Mast VERY far back “Extreme version of Macif”)

-Twice the hull volume of WOXI

-“Some unconventional underwater thinking”)

-All manual winches for record breaking (maybe a couple powered for deliveries)

No daggerboards that we can see so looking based on the "some unconventional underwater thinking" statement, some form of lee board similar to scows perhaps.... that or the boards are still being figured out and it will have standard boards

 

possible dss foil package since oats proved it was useful and the drawings could be prior to sydney to hobart

 

Manual Grinders will stay for the records pending the boat gets up and goes better than speedboat

 

bigger question is who is the builder???

The boards are obviously not on the drawing right now. Comment from the project manager was "Fairly conventional asym boards, uncurved." This ain't a foiling monomaran, in other words. I do not think there are DSS or DSS-style lifting foils on the boat. Should be a lot more info coming out in a week or two.

http://m.boothbayregister.com/article/hodgdon-yachts-unveils-new-secret-weapon-built-crush-records/31036

 

Interesting pic of the foil at the bottom of the article...

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Heard a rumor that the draft is too much to launch in east boothbay with the keel boards and rudders in place... Heard talk of moving the boat else where possibly out of state to finish with stepping and hull appendages

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Heard a rumor that the draft is too much to launch in east boothbay with the keel boards and rudders in place... Heard talk of moving the boat else where possibly out of state to finish with stepping and hull appendages

 

Wow. Where did that come from? I know they launch commercial tugboats right next door so I thought it would be deep enough...

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Damariscotta River is deep... perhaps the railway doesn't go out far enough? Antonisia was launched at a ramp, iirc. Mast stepped at Maine Maritime Museum. My father is up there, I'll see what he can find out.

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update: Just got off ph with my father, in Boothbay. He says scuttlebutt around town is that yes, the boat will be launched elsewhere. He confirmed Antonisia was launched at a local ramp, but thinks the keel was fitted later. He thinks he may be included in a group given a tour, but doubts pictures will be allowed. Launching is scheduled for Sept, boat will be fitted out and test-sailed, then headed to Aus for S2H. Shipped, I assume. He will keep me up-dated, I'll add to the thread anything I hear.

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update: Just got off ph with my father, in Boothbay. He says scuttlebutt around town is that yes, the boat will be launched elsewhere. He confirmed Antonisia was launched at a local ramp, but thinks the keel was fitted later. He thinks he may be included in a group given a tour, but doubts pictures will be allowed. Launching is scheduled for Sept, boat will be fitted out and test-sailed, then headed to Aus for S2H. Shipped, I assume. He will keep me up-dated, I'll add to the thread anything I hear.

Antonisa is a K/CB and yes CB was added later.

 

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/launching-antonisa/

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Worth noting Antonisa was launched at the former HYI location. Scheherazade was launched at the present location

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So honest question, are the rudders really that long? If the beam is 27' those rudders are pushing 20ft with about a 4ft chord.... Really? And not to sound uneducated, and I am certainly no expert on the twin rudder thing, but in light of the fact that the rudders shown are like 737 wings does the boat gain an advantage from having two of them???

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Dropped in for a visit, not much has changed and certainly none for the better.

 

A comment on this project. Given perfect conditions it could blitz the record, most years it would not make Hobart, on a bad year people will die.

 

I know Volvo boats handle extreme weather but they always have the option to head down and change strategy.

 

Heading to Hobart, 50knots plus on the nose, Bass Straight no back to them 10+ meter waves with a cross sea at 3 meters. This is a death ship.

STH is not the race for this boat IMHO. Especially not as a shake down.



Just my 2c, flame away.

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Dropped in for a visit, not much has changed and certainly none for the better.

 

A comment on this project. Given perfect conditions it could blitz the record, most years it would not make Hobart, on a bad year people will die.

 

I know Volvo boats handle extreme weather but they always have the option to head down and change strategy.

 

Heading to Hobart, 50knots plus on the nose, Bass Straight no back to them 10+ meter waves with a cross sea at 3 meters. This is a death ship.

 

STH is not the race for this boat IMHO. Especially not as a shake down.

 

 

 

Just my 2c, flame away.

 

It's basically a big Open 60, Paps, designed to break transatlantic, transpacific, and even possibly a RTW record. And perhaps most importantly, there was no JuanK involvement.

 

Do you think it should be able to handle a Hobart with those credentials?

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Dropped in for a visit, not much has changed and certainly none for the better.

 

A comment on this project. Given perfect conditions it could blitz the record, most years it would not make Hobart, on a bad year people will die.

 

I know Volvo boats handle extreme weather but they always have the option to head down and change strategy.

 

Heading to Hobart, 50knots plus on the nose, Bass Straight no back to them 10+ meter waves with a cross sea at 3 meters. This is a death ship.

STH is not the race for this boat IMHO. Especially not as a shake down.

Just my 2c, flame away.

It's basically a big Open 60, Paps, designed to break transatlantic, transpacific, and even possibly a RTW record. And perhaps most importantly, there was no JuanK involvement.

 

Do you think it should be able to handle a Hobart with those credentials?

If it was a downhill slide all the way to Hobart it might have a chance of winning

 

BUT

 

Those Hobarts are not every year, if they were I might consider trying to find a ride and breaking my first rule of ocean racing.

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Woh there Rushman......I broke that rule many times and seem to be miserable every time so I advise you to stick to your rules....

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Woh there Rushman......I broke that rule many times and seem to be miserable every time so I advise you to stick to your rules....

My first rule is the finish should be warmer than the start

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I reckon Pil's is only go on a boat 10 feet longer than your age

 

Broke it a couple of times without ill effects but still a good rule

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