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cgasailor

Caribbean 600

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First gun in about an hour and a half. Tracking here: http://caribbean600.rorc.org/2014-fleet-tracking.html

 

Entry list here: http://caribbean600.rorc.org/downloads/2014-media/2014-rc600-latest-entry-list-class.pdf

 

Who's gonna bring it home for line honors, overall, class wins???

 

I heard Donnybrook was gonna be racing this year but they're not on the entry list, anyone know why?

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Bella for the overall

 

In other news, the sun is going to rise and set today and the tides are going to go in and out.

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First gun in about an hour and a half. Tracking here: http://caribbean600.rorc.org/2014-fleet-tracking.html

 

Entry list here: http://caribbean600.rorc.org/downloads/2014-media/2014-rc600-latest-entry-list-class.pdf

 

Who's gonna bring it home for line honors, overall, class wins???

 

I heard Donnybrook was gonna be racing this year but they're not on the entry list, anyone know why?

Hetaros or Rambler for line honours

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Hetaros isn't racing. Between Bella Mente and Rambler for line honours (for what that's worth).

 

Would be nice to see Dorade do well.

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Rambler was out in front but on a strange course.

 

Tracker is not available just now.

 

Just back from watching the start, There are two big schooners in the megabucks class and boy o boy did they play some start line games. I wonder if the owner was on the helm of Athos?

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Did we break the tracker??

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I think someone blew the RORC budget for PR and media on hookers and blow 'cause all I gots is a crappy news release and a shit vid.

 

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Oh wait - Google just sent me another one.

 

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Rambler and Bella Mente neck and neck, less than a 1/10th of a mile between them running downwind at 18 knots.

 

Adela and Athos also racing side by side.

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Tracker is back up for me.

 

Rambler leading by a tenth of a mile from Bella Mente Shockwave is about a mile back.

 

All three look like they are taking the inside route around the back of Nevis.

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Is this the new Bella Mente that just did the Sydney Hobart?

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just sent to me by a PR'er reading the thread.

 

not sure whose shot.

 

 

low res George David's Rambler 90.jpg

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Posted · Hidden by MR.CLEAN, February 24, 2014 - dupe

just sent to me by a PR'er reading the thread.

 

not sure whose shot.

 

 

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Is this the new Bella Mente that just did the Sydney Hobart?

Are you confusing with Beau Geste?

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The Bella Mente I watched start had those red and green stripes on the sails.

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Hate watching this from home!

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My bad, yes I am confusing her with Beau Geste.However she's rippin fast to hold off a 90 footer.

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Old Bella beat Rambler for Line Honors in a Block Island Race back in 2010. That was light and fluky though but clearly a decade of design thinking has created two pretty even boats at least for now.

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Rambler 90 is quite a big heavy thing compared to the new BM, right LH?

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Shannon Falcone>‎Sailing Anarchy
RORC 600 RACE FOR THE RUM PUNCH

I'll ship a bottle of my home-brewed rum punch to whoever guesses the correct line honors boat and closest finish time in the Caribbean 600.

Just head over to Shannon Falcone, share the competition post and submit your answers in the comments below before noon PST on Tuesday

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On the tracker I saw the 2 superyachts Adele and Athos are doing good.

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But the race is not over yet

Bella Mente, Rambler and Shockwave are leading for Line Honours.

Bella Mente is expected to win.

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This bunch have got to take the cake in the PR department.Sucks don't it.

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Perhaps they're running a race for the people who're there and they don't give a fuck about those who aren't?

 

There don't seem to be any sponsors to worry about and the people who might be interested in doing it know about it. At that point why worry about the PR gimps?

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looking forward to fleet showing back up in falmouth.

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Any word on the new Carkeek 47? First regatta for them, I am surprised we haven't seen any pictures of her on the boards or front page. If only all owners were as forthright and social media savvy as #200.

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Perhaps they're running a race for the people who're there and they don't give a fuck about those who aren't?

 

Could be. That's what usually happens right before the growth tapers off. Maybe they have too many boats to handle and that's why they've cut back? I'm told there will be a single highlight reel after the thing's over, likely from Tim Wright, who was the shooter of the pic above.

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Any word on the new Carkeek 47? First regatta for them, I am surprised we haven't seen any pictures of her on the boards or front page. If only all owners were as forthright and social media savvy as #200.

Only 4 NM ahead of Tonnerre and a Class 40. Should be a lot further along, no?

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I am going to go with Bella Mente - 47 hours and 45 minutes - with line honors.

 

 

 

Shannon Falcone>‎Sailing Anarchy
RORC 600 RACE FOR THE RUM PUNCH

I'll ship a bottle of my home-brewed rum punch to whoever guesses the correct line honors boat and closest finish time in the Caribbean 600.

Just head over to Shannon Falcone, share the competition post and submit your answers in the comments below before noon PST on Tuesday

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The tracker is tits up at the moment but showing Rambler a mile or two in front of Bella Mente who are neck and neck with Shockwave.

 

However everybody is doing zero knots according to Yellowbrick.

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Any word on the new Carkeek 47? First regatta for them, I am surprised we haven't seen any pictures of her on the boards or front page. If only all owners were as forthright and social media savvy as #200.

 

Photos of the Grundy machine from the start off of the RORC Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643229382380668.1073741835.114838938553051&type=1

 

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Edit: And some nice RORC Video here:

 

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I like the mini-Maxi class

hopefully a few more owners pick up on it

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I like the mini-Maxi class

hopefully a few more owners pick up on it

This class has been around for ages, I can't see it suddenly gaining more traction than where it is right now.

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So Bella Mente did a good job under the hills of Guadeloupe, let's see if Rambler can reel her in.

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Well, the Secretary General of the Maxi Association is also the Admiral of RORC, so he's probably moonlighting with a bit of marketing for the race.

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So Bella Mente did a good job under the hills of Guadeloupe, let's see if Rambler can reel her in.

 

Lots of heavy-er air beam/broad reaching after they make the next left turn. Waterline & Water Ballast vs. better reaching hullform?

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In the Superyacht Class it has taken an island to separate the two magnificent schooners, Adela andAthos. The 182ft Dykstra designed schooner, Adela, has chosen a conventional route by staying to the windward side of Montserrat on the long reach to Guadeloupe. However, the 203ft Hoek designed Athos has elected to go to the leeward side of Montserrat, accompanied by Italian Southern Wind 100, Cape Arrow, and RP78, Arctic Idea, which have also left Montserrat to port.

In IRC One, Piet Vroon's Ker 46, Tonnerre de Breskens 3, put the hammer down after passing St.Barths at 1100 local time. Colin Buffin's British Swan 62, Uxorious IV, was still tacking through the Anguilla Strait, as the Dutch flyer set a course for the windward side of Montserrat and took off, averaging over 10 knots of boat speed. Uxorious IV took just an hour and a half to reach St.Barths but by then Tonnerre had increased their lead on the water by 15 miles. At 1700 on day 2, Tonnerre was 32 miles ahead of any other yacht in their class, and had a substantial lead after time correction. Todd Stuart's American Swan 56, White Rhino, was third on the water and in class after time correction.

thumb_2014-rc600-lancelot-ii-st-barths-tBernie Evan Wong's Antiguan entry, Quokka 8, was leading IRC Two on the water and, just before sunset, they were passing St.Barths, heading south to start the 100-mile leg to Guadeloupe. The wind direction was still virtually due east and Quokka 8 is likely to unfurl a Code Zero for the night and enjoy a fast reach to Guadeloupe. This point of sail is almost ideal for Quokka and, with a water-line advantage over Peter Sowrey's First 40, Lancelot II, Quokka is expected to extend on her immediate rival. Lancelot II was still leading the class on corrected time by 40 minutes. Christian Reynolds' Swan 51, Northern Child, has had a great day and is third after time correction but only just: Ballytrim,EH01 and Southern Child are very much in contention.

In IRC Three, Adrian Lower's Swan 44, Selene now leads the class after pulling off a stunning move on the leg from Sabba to St.Barth's earlier this morning. Turning hard to starboard after Sabba, Selene set a course for St.Barths and, a mile out from the corner, it became apparent that the daring move had paid off. Selene, on starboard tack, just cleared Dorade on port, to take the class lead on time correction. Yuri Fadeev's Reflex 38, Intuition, leads on the water but is third after time correction.

It is likely that many of the yachts in IRC Zero will be in the Stealth Zone tonight behind Guadeloupe; viewers of the tracker page will see the yachts become stationary as they enter the zone and re-appear after they have passed through it.

The RORC Caribbean 600 fleet are in for a real treat tonight, with no heat haze and a cloud filled sky - it's going to be a fantastic Caribbean sunset.

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The stealth zone is there because of the fluky winds behind the high mountains and valleys of Guadeloupe.

 

If you were able to see what boats in front were doing you would have a fantastic advantage.

 

It may be the case that Bella Mente watched Rambler sail into a wind hole and zigged to avoid it. On the other hand she may just be the better light air boat.

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That wind shadow can be 3-4 miles offshore,Bella tacked 7 times going up the south of Guadloupe opposed to Rambler's 1 according to the tracker lost some distance but still held on to round Deserade first,if they can hold her off to Barbuda I think they can beat her.Those guys are sailing the piss out of that boat incredible stuff.

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So Bella has a handy lead over Rambler don't think Rambler can reel her in with only 74 miles to go.? She looked very sharp at the start, they have her going really well.

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Bit of raiding the parts bin on the old Russian volvo. Main off Sanya, ABN amro kite. Wonder where the jibs are from...

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Bit of raiding the parts bin on the old Russian volvo. Main off Sanya, ABN amro kite. Wonder where the jibs are from...

Makes sense, I don't see how you can operate a boat like that as a charter without using perfectly acceptable second hand kit.

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Well it is grey and wet and cold here in Antigua but Bella has a 1 mile lead over Rambler with 10 miles to run. Shockwave is about 1 mile behind Rambler. Unless something breaks or there is a major goof up that should be the finish order.

 

BTW cold is anything below 78f IMHO. it is 72f here! dat is f***ing cold.

 

The schooner race between Adela and Athos is close Adela holding a small lead just now.

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Well it might just get interesting. The wind has dropped right down and gone fluky.It may come down to who gets the wind back first.

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I think I nailed it - Line Honors to Belle Mente at 47 hours and 45 minutes was my prediction. Actual time is probably going to be closer to 48:15...

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I'm also from the Islands and anything over 76f is summer so it's bikini tops off.Amazing sailing from the boys on Bella 10 mile lead at the Barbuda mark on a white sail reach against 90 ft Rambler whow!!!

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Quite a close finish Rambler-Shockwave both have to tack to finish 0.2 of a mile apart,Shockwave has all the silver though.

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Is Votre Nom Autour du Monde's rating right? I know the boat is fast, but 1.738? IRC scratch boat in this fleet?

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just watched rambler and shockwave come into falmouth. looked close.

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I am impressed at the race between Adela and Athos. Quite a tussel.

There are still a few micro races to watch out there although it looks like Pace has closed the door on Privateer.

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Is Votre Nom Autour du Monde's rating right? I know the boat is fast, but 1.738? IRC scratch boat in this fleet?

The Open 60 and IRC are not the best of friends ;)

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Great result too for Shockwave, handicap winner so far and only 2 minutes behind Rambler for line honours.!

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Remarkable the old winner of VOR 2005/06 ABN / AMRO 1 (Black Betty) is still doing well.

ended 13 as as a Russian Monster Project with Andrew Budgen and Fred Schwyn.

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Amers Sports one (now Spirit of adventure) from the 2001/02 VOR (without Kanting keel) is in the race as well.

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I like the VOR classics and the fact that the new VO 65's are made with 800 kilograms more carbon than the old VO 70's is a good case for safety and sustainability.

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Great result too for Shockwave, handicap winner so far and only 2 minutes behind Rambler for line honours.!

 

Bella Mente had line honours... I agree that it's a good finish for Shockwave, but they were 2 minutes behind Rambler for second in line honours, and 13 minutes behind Bella Mente.

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Remarkable the old winner of VOR 2005/06 ABN / AMRO 1 (Black Betty) is still doing well.

ended 13 as as a Russian Monster Project with Andrew Budgen and Fred Schwyn.

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Its not abn amro. Its Team Russia "Kosatka" boat from VOR 2008-09.

designed by British designer Rob Humphreys and built by Green Marine

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you mean the boat made famous in the "Chinese Gybe" video?

 

 

correct

 

solid boat, but wasnt fast

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Seriously though does anyone know the story with Donnybroke? A few months ago Muldoon definitely said they were gonna be doing it...

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In January I saw Donnie Brook haul out at Soper's Hole in the BVI. They'd had a rough delivery down and were investigating problems with the canting keel mechanism. At, that point they were still waiting on the surveyor to give them a direction on the repairs.

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In January I saw Donnie Brook haul out at Soper's Hole in the BVI. They'd had a rough delivery down and were investigating problems with the canting keel mechanism. At, that point they were still waiting on the surveyor to give them a direction on the repairs.

 

gotcha. thanks

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Is that the Andrews? Was there another insident/accident besides a rough delivery?

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I believe it is an R/P 78' and maybe hitting a whale off Nova Scotia last June might have had something to do with it. But, Freddie just said that it was a rough delivery down and they started hearing nasty noises from around the keel box.

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I didn't see that video before.

I don't know if it's funny to be on board when that happened.

you mean the boat made famous in the "Chinese Gybe" video?

 

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The stealth zone is there because of the fluky winds behind the high mountains and valleys of Guadeloupe.

 

If you were able to see what boats in front were doing you would have a fantastic advantage.

 

It may be the case that Bella Mente watched Rambler sail into a wind hole and zigged to avoid it. On the other hand she may just be the better light air boat.

 

 

now that the race is over, the actual tracks through the stealth zone are shown

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I didn't see that video before.

I don't know if it's funny to be on board when that happened.

you mean the boat made famous in the "Chinese Gybe" video?

 

 

Not trying to be funny -

 

The crew seemed to have things well in hand once they sorted things out.

 

Must be quite a hand full sailing that fast for so many sea miles and hours full-out like that.

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