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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Anybody else sick of the Bush bashing and Liberal crap on the front pa

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Been fun while it lasted. I'll take my eyeballs elsewhere from now on. Buh bye.

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1st rule of SA: No one reads the front page

2nd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

3rd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

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Glenn Beck welcomes you with open arms.

 

Don't let the door hit you in the ass!

 

This is where you spend your last typed sentence on SA advocating to bomb Russia and and then go on some Benghazi conspiracy rant. Please, let's hear it...

 

"I'm OUTRAGED, I'm gonna tell everyone and then pretend to not post here ever again!"

 

Do us a favor and don't leave Florida any time soon...

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1st rule of SA: No one reads the front page

2nd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

3rd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

Guilty as charged sir. I will report for punishment and take my lashes like man.

 

But only if I can pick out her outfit!

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1st rule of SA: No one reads the front page

2nd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

3rd rule of SA: No one reads the front page

I only buy Playboy for the articles too.

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Besides, I thought the Bush reference was funny. And unfortunately pretty accurate....

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But calling the current President a Muslim, Communist, Nazi Foreigner is all in good fun, right?

 

Personally, I'm sick of the rightwing nutjobs acting like victims... "you're intolerant of my intolerance!"

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Besides, I thought the Bush reference was funny. And unfortunately pretty accurate....

 

But don't forget that Kerry had grades close to Bush's while they were at Yale, except Kerry got a few more Ds.

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The front page made me chuckle. It could have been a lot more vicious. The man has spent his retirement painting portraits of dogs.

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Nah. I'll never get tired of it.

 

That prick fucked our credibility in a big way, going to take a full generation to gain it back, if we ever do. Ultimately, we didn't gain a whole hell of a lot for it either.

 

Some of us will curse him till the day we die.

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Shut the fu....

put your blinders on

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Not sure how to get to this thing you call a front page.

 

But I think with the number of rotations that we have had in the last 40 years or so. It's time to try something different.

 

Elect all Democrats into National Offices. Give them 4 years. If they haven't made it any better. Fuck 'em they're gone.

 

Then all Republicans for 4 years. If they can't make it any better. Fuck 'em they're gone

 

And so on and so on until we get someone who shows up to actually make the Country, not their Party, better!!

 

WL

 

Ya Ya- I know take it to PA (but they're scary over there)

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Well what do you expect? It's all Bush's fault.

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Take this shit to PA. First Optis have to dodge Melges 32's, then submarines and now aircraft carriers. These kids are pretty tough.

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I really don't think the SA front page calling GWB dumb is either newsworthy or important. US Military and governmental units, bases and departments around the world will admit the man and his family on sight and offer any and every assistance possible. A library and a Dallas Expressway are to be named after him. He has business, political and social contacts of the stratospheric sort all around the globe. His bodyguards intimidate the piss out of your bodyguards.

 

HTFU and get some perspective, idiot. In comparison to GWB (or "shrub" as I like to call him), NO ONE CARES WHAT SA OR YOU THINK.

 

(and yes, no one cares what I think, either, but I accept that gratefully!)

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Been fun while it lasted. I'll take my eyeballs elsewhere from now on. Buh bye.

 

I find it unlikely that a short front page reference in 2014 has you 'taking your eyeballs elsewhere' when you registered here in February 2006 and Scot has been beating on Bush since he was elected.

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Besides, I thought the Bush reference was funny. And unfortunately pretty accurate....

 

But don't forget that Kerry had grades close to Bush's while they were at Yale, except Kerry got a few more Ds.

 

and a few more medals for combat service after Yale

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Who the fuck cares I may agree with the eds political stances but if it ain't completely about sailing I just skip over it. Take the front page for what it is, a good place to find out about some classes and the rest as his personal soap box. If the blaze started reporting o. Sailing too I'd follow it and skip their opinion pieces as well

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Nah. I'll never get tired of it.

 

That prick fucked our credibility in a big way, going to take a full generation to gain it back, if we ever do. Ultimately, we didn't gain a whole hell of a lot for it either.

 

Some of us will curse him till the day we die.

 

DIck Cheney is a war-criminal son of a bitch who was wrong about everything and should be in a cold fucking cell right now. Just because our current weak-ass President would rather "look forward than backward" does not mean citizens with half a functioning brain are ever going to forgive or forget what those bedwetting negligent cowards did while in office. PA not PA, politically disengaged or whatever, there are some things in life worth taking a stand on, and lying into aggressive major wars and torturing and murdering helpless captives are in that category. Whats really sad is that HW Bush was a damn good president and patriot. The hell he must have gone thru watching his family name get trashed for the ages....

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The caption should read the USS Bush bears down on the USS Ol'bama, USS Bidet, USS Weid and others.....seems there's a bunch of 99% on this board....

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Take this shit to PA. First Optis have to dodge Melges 32's, then submarines and now aircraft carriers. These kids are pretty tough.

 

There's actually a sinister connection here. The Melges 32 were doing test runs to test the thermo-sonic properties of the Opti when gathered in a fleet. Now that the Navy knows subs are attracted to large groups of kids in little fiberglass boxes, they are planning to follow Opti regattas with a task force.

 

Either that, or there are a few Opti dads who are Navy captains.

 

Or maybe not

 

FB- Doug

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I take offense to the jerk that wrote the front page post. Of course the ship will float. Very fine hard working american folks like me, built it.

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Take this shit to PA. First Optis have to dodge Melges 32's, then submarines and now aircraft carriers. These kids are pretty tough.

There's actually a sinister connection here. The Melges 32 were doing test runs to test the thermo-sonic properties of the Opti when gathered in a fleet. Now that the Navy knows subs are attracted to large groups of kids in little fiberglass boxes, they are planning to follow Opti regattas with a task force.

 

Either that, or there are a few Opti dads who are Navy captains.

 

Or maybe not

 

FB- Doug

They're taking the helicopter parent thing a little too far I think.

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Take this shit to PA. First Optis have to dodge Melges 32's, then submarines and now aircraft carriers. These kids are pretty tough.

There's actually a sinister connection here. The Melges 32 were doing test runs to test the thermo-sonic properties of the Opti when gathered in a fleet. Now that the Navy knows subs are attracted to large groups of kids in little fiberglass boxes, they are planning to follow Opti regattas with a task force.

 

Either that, or there are a few Opti dads who are Navy captains.

 

Or maybe not

 

FB- Doug

They're taking the helicopter parent thing a little too far I think.

 

Helicopter, shit.... they're F-14 parents!!!

 

FB- Doug

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i liked and still like bush, and all the bush's out there. If you dont like bush, well, your not on my team!

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But calling the current President a Muslim, Communist, Nazi Foreigner is all in good fun, right?

 

 

NO

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But calling the current President a Muslim, Communist, Nazi Foreigner is all in good fun, right?

 

NO

I personally prefer: lazy, incompetent, arrogant, elistist, narcissistic windbag

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

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If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.


- George Washington

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

It's not like he's gotten whacked with a boom or anything, sheesh!

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

 

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

I reckon some of the commies realize how much tax they have paid for that thing, named for a family of (unconvicted, as America does not recognise the international criminal court) war criminals

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Dub-yah's cockpit. Can you make any sense of it? Thought not . . .

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Dub-yah's cockpit. Can you make any sense of it? Thought not . . .

7-31.JPG

Wait that's a flight simulator right? Did he actually do anything aside from suck money from daddy's donors to act as their puppet?

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy

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George W Bush Clean

 

Graduated Yale gets chased out of regatta for getting in way

Graduated Harvard Business School flings shit at fat man and gets sued

Did his service in National Guard Got a law degree that does not get used

co-own Texas Rangers baseball team Gets arrested for smoking dope in some jerkwater town

Governor of Texas

Jet pilot

elected President of the US 2000

Re-elected 2004

created the largest nature perserve in the world to save the oceans

has 23 pages noting his accomplishments on Wikipedia

Can fly onto a boat bearing his name Trailers a boat to place to be able to use it

 

 

Daddy can only do so much. The kid did some of this Jealousy is a terrible thing

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

 

While you're at it, aren't you going to tell us to get off your lawn?

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They just can't help themselves, have to put their political views into a great sailing site. Just like Clinton couldn't keep it in his pants. I have come to the realization that Libs have very little self control or discipline. Stick to the sailing coverage we all have sailing in common.

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Foreverslow,

 

A small correction, GWB was a passenger on a jet that landed aboard a carrier.

 

He was a pilot but not a Naval Aviator. There is a big difference between wings of lead and wings of gold.

 

His father on the other hand could and did land aboard.

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Here is something for all of those who miss him:

 

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And SA's Political Agenda is Relevant to What, Who???

STFU and Post some Cool Sailing Stuff!!!

 

Dopes!

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They just can't help themselves, have to put their political views into a great sailing site. Just like Clinton couldn't keep it in his pants. I have come to the realization that Libs have very little self control or discipline. Stick to the sailing coverage we all have sailing in common.

Mike Duvall, Paul Stanley, Mark Sanford, Alan David Berlin, Chris Lee, Randy Hopper, Ronald William Brown, Bruce Barclay, Bob Allen, John Atchison, Larry Craig...

 

Not just Libs have problems with self control or discipline. I think its called "being human." Why don't you try opinions which have substance and reflect more than just personal prejudices.

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy

The rest of the republican elk that stated their job is to make Obama fail when he was elected should be tried for treason and hung. Fucking whiners lets ruin the the country to make the black guy look bad.

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i think that scooter does more damage to himself than bush with those kinds of comments

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I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

 




Steamer what branch did you serve in?

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy

The rest of the republican elk that stated their job is to make Obama fail when he was elected should be tried for treason and hung. Fucking whiners lets ruin the the country to make the black guy look bad.

 

 

As if Bush didn't ruin the country enough with two unneeded wars of agression on the national credit card. The new normal for many people who will never regain their decent incomes of the two previous decades. Gonna be another 4 or 5 years before our "lost decade" of economic malaise is over.

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You seem kinda new here :rolleyes:

Whenever the Ed wants more hits on the money-meter he posts something to stir up the inmates.

 

Just ignore that crap and pay attention to the sailors on here ;)

 

I take offense to the jerk that wrote the front page post. Of course the ship will float. Very fine hard working american folks like me, built it.

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I take offense to the jerk that wrote the front page post. Of course the ship will float. Very fine hard working american folks like me, built it.

 

I used to work at that shipyard too. Sometimes I'm amazed that anything built there floated. ;-)

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The carrier is named for the 41st president

 

Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?

 

nwmmind

 

sheesh

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+1, except for the leaving part

+2 but hey it's Ed's web site so he can publish what he wants.

 

OBAMA (One Big Ass Mistake America)

 

Wonder if that will ge me tossed??? :lol:

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy

The rest of the republican elk that stated their job is to make Obama fail when he was elected should be tried for treason and hung. Fucking whiners lets ruin the the country to make the black guy look bad.

 

I didn't know elk were political. Which party do white tailed deer belong too?

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy

 

His current ranking among Presidents is 34th - that puts him in the company of such giants as Millard Fillmore.

 

Isn't that enough for you?

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The carrier is named for the 41st president

 

Anyone remember him? Anyone? Bueller?

 

nwmmind

 

sheesh

 

I'm waiting for the Clinton to be launched - I figure it will have a record setting bow protrusion.

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how do you serve a year? I thought it was 4 years. Of course, I'm OLD

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It is actually a good nautical shot that tells a story, and the insightful will realise that the ones in the Optis are the future, have there heads screwed on, and probably no guns under the pillow; while the ones on the Bush are probably otherwise unemployable and fairly gullible.

I hope every Anarchist knows who is having more fun...

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Anyone else wonder why a thread that people in GA would Bitch about it not being in PA

 

would be posted in SA

 

 

And anyone else getting annoyed that every time you stick your fingers in the wall outlet you get yet another a shock :o

 

why don't "they" fix the wall outlets ???????????? ^_^-_-^_^-_-

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Name it Obummer and it will only go left and shoot at Americans.

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I love the forum but can not stand the warm monger idiots who need to inject socialism into something as pure and beautiful as sailing or racing sailboats.

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^^^

Quit mongering the warm you bastards!

 

Temperature inequality is destroying NA sailing!

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I find it deliciously ironic and fitting that a man who has no respect for anyone but himself can't spell that word. There are very few words that would be more fitting for him to misspell.

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I find it deliciously ironic and fitting that a man who has no respect for anyone but himself can't spell that word. There are very few words that would be more fitting for him to misspell.

 

dead-horse.gif

 

Congratulations on not spelling anything wrong.

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I'd like to see more Bush bashing, and some Laura bashing too!

There is never enough of that and it's so disheartening! He should be tarred and feathered, and that would be getting off easy
The rest of the republican elk that stated their job is to make Obama fail when he was elected should be tried for treason and hung. Fucking whiners lets ruin the the country to make the black guy look bad.

Wtf is a republican elk?

Is there a democratic moose too?

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I've been scanning the news coverage of the CPAC this week. I didn't see any mention of George W. Bush. Did they even invite him to attend the conference?

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Will somebody get these motherfucking socks and these motherucking newbs off this motherfucking aircraft carrier?

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A little late now, but did anyone read the name of the carrier on the "front page"?

 

George H.W.Bush

 

nemmind - carry on

I know someone who's on that boat. Maybe you leftist commie moonbats ought to take a year a military service and then you'd learn some respect.

Fuck all of the Bushes. Fuck all of you right wing Neanderthal tea party fuckwads too. I served in the Army for 10 years so blow me.

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Take this shit to PA. First Optis have to dodge Melges 32's, then submarines and now aircraft carriers. These kids are pretty tough.

There's actually a sinister connection here. The Melges 32 were doing test runs to test the thermo-sonic properties of the Opti when gathered in a fleet. Now that the Navy knows subs are attracted to large groups of kids in little fiberglass boxes, they are planning to follow Opti regattas with a task force.

 

Either that, or there are a few Opti dads who are Navy captains.

 

Or maybe not

 

FB- Doug

They're taking the helicopter parent thing a little too far I think.

 

Helicopter, shit.... they're F-14 parents!!!

 

FB- Doug

just because an F14's wings can move does not mean its a helicopter... Shame they retired that plane, it really was one of the coolest planes around.

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Has anyone, ever, in the history of ever, ever changed their viewpoint based on an insult laden political rant posted by an anonymous fuckwit on a public forum?

 

Anyone? Ever?

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Stuff I'd rather just ignore:

  • Religion
  • Politics

The deal is: if you ignore religion, nothing happens; if you ignore politics, you end up getting reamed.

 

I totally understand hermits...

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Has anyone, ever, in the history of ever, ever changed their viewpoint based on an insult laden political rant posted by an anonymous fuckwit on a public forum?

 

Anyone? Ever?

 

Who the fuck cares if they change their opinion? The whole idea is to demonstrate with infinite precision and overwhelming completeness that THEY are the fuckwits and everything is THEIR fault. How pleasantly childish to project that it might be somehow about winning hearts and minds....

 

PS, Steamer, how about that military service question; what branch were you in again?

 

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Has anyone, ever, in the history of ever, ever changed their viewpoint based on an insult laden political rant posted by an anonymous fuckwit on a public forum?

 

Anyone? Ever?

 

I did - listening to Fox turned me into a tea party lunatic. Dropped my IQ well down into double digits too.

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Dub-yah's cockpit. Can you make any sense of it? Thought not . . .

7-31.JPG

Empty because he is still A.W.O.L.??

Most of the time I see all the Democrats and Republicans as neatly equally offensive . (Don't ever accuse me of being FOR either group unless you wish to display your ignorance!)

But

Doubya was carefully removed from harm's way by friends of his powerful family so he could attain the resume points from "serving his country" while training on a stateside military unit that would NEVER see battle.

The young man Bush abused his good name by living as a drunkard partying punk ass chump and eventually went A.W.O.L. from his cushy military assignment.

As one of the millions of kids who grew up in a nation of adults who would warn us about various forms of planned misbehavior with, "If you do that if is the dirt of thing that will be on your life record and destroy your chance to ever be President or even get into a good college."......

 

Dubya should have been disqualified for ever being president by his grades, his partying, his AWOL performance, and most certainly by everything he never did to establish himself as an upstanding American through his thirties.

 

During my lifetime we have gone from electing the guy who was in charge of the Allied Forces during World War II to electing men who dodged military service.

 

Obama may be pushing for a whole lot of stuff with which I absolutely disagree but at least he was at the top of his class at Harvard and since that time he has distinguished himself by actually serving on positions of responsibility ( advocating for stuff with which I disagree ?? Sure! But unlike young Bush he shows up sober and works and unlike Clinton he only fucks his wife.)

 

The next step uphill from those who our society should have disqualified will be when we start electing valedictorians who refuse to take bribes called campaign contributions and actually work to serve the voters.

 

I will vote for whoever first promises;

 

If you help fund my campaign I will do

My best to serve my constituents but I will feel obligated to recuse myself from any discussions or voting on government actions that might possibly relate financially to those who have funded my election.

 

I will vigorously campaign for and support the politician who says:

 

I will work to root out, prosecute , hold fair trials for, and exterminate anyone who would sell his vote or the influence of his position.

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Take it to PA and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

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Here is something for all of those who miss him:

 

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the one on the right is the motherfucker's girlfriend. just shows what a psychopath he is that he hasn't blown his own head off from festering guilt.

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there's a front page?

 

Bush Who??? Is this person relevant to something or someone?

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Been fun while it lasted. I'll take my eyeballs elsewhere from now on. Buh bye.

Don't know why...Hunter S THompson picked him years ago.

"He knew who I was, at that time, because I had a reputation as a writer. I knew he was part of the Bush dynasty. But he was nothing, he offered nothing, and he promised nothing. He had no humor. He was insignificant in every way and consequently I didn't pay much attention to him. But when he passed out in my bathtub, then I noticed him. I'd been in another room, talking to the bright people. I had to have him taken away." -on meeting George W Bush at Thompson's Super Bowl party in Houston in 1974

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Here is something for all of those who miss him:

 

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the one on the right is the motherfucker's girlfriend. just shows what a psychopath he is that he hasn't blown his own head off from festering guilt.

 

I went to see the Dandy Warhols in Austalia the day OBAMA was elected. Half way through they stopped, popped a bottle of champagne and said that was the first time in years that they did not feel embarassed to be Americans. BTW, just from his grin, that simplton grin, there is no way he could have had a successful career as a pilot. Some of his records have been destroyed, some falsified, if he ever took off alone it would have been straight and level with careful turns. Not enough inteligence to do anything else.

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Bush the younger was trying to make up for the mistake of bush the older in leaving Saddam Hussein in Iraq in power after the Kuwait war. He felt compelled to take action for 2977 human beings killed in New York City. Maybe he let fictional chemical weapons move to Syria, because there would be less US troop deaths with those types of weapons in a different location. Those types of weapons used by Saddam had killed 100,000 Iranians and 5000 Kurds.

 

Tell me bush was not the smartest... Ok.

Tell me Saddam was good for human well being and I would ask you to look in the mirror.

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Bush the younger was trying to make up for the mistake of bush the older in leaving Saddam Hussein in Iraq in power after the Kuwait war. He felt compelled to take action for 2977 human beings killed in New York City. Maybe he let fictional chemical weapons move to Syria, because there would be less US troop deaths with those types of weapons in a different location. Those types of weapons used by Saddam had killed 100,000 Iranians and 5000 Kurds.

 

Tell me bush was not the smartest... Ok.

Tell me Saddam was good for human well being and I would ask you to look in the mirror.

In order for this argument to make sense, then:

1. The world, and all Iraqiis, are better off now, after twelve years of war and civil strife, complete with beheadings, torture, drone strikes, poverty, health care collapse and increasing Iranian and Muslim extremist influence on the Iraqi government.

2. America, her battle forces, global standing and influence and our economy have not unduly suffered as a result of Iraq (and Bush) part deux.

3. Our dead, injured and PTSD victims and their families have made a worthy sacrifice

4. It's ok that we went to war in Iraq over 9/11 even though that country had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11

 

I cannot justify America's civil, military, economic and international losses given the high cost of "righting daddy's wrong" that actually endures to this day as a good decision. (I'm referring to the abortive conclusion to Schwartzkoffs drive across the desert.) As Colin Powell said, "you break it, you bought it."

 

GHWB never approved of his son's actions, but Shrub retires to Texas while the rest if us find out we actually will have to pay for having a war. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqiis are dead because of America's best intentions, and our military personnel have been killed and wounded for no good result. Our economy has been in the shitter ever since. IImagine if we'd spent all those "Emergency Funding Bills" on our infrastructure instead of war and health care for our injured and disabled!

 

All to get ONE bad guy? That is a textbook FUBAR decision.

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The current white house's occupant has caused our friends to no longer trust us and our enemies to no longer fear us. Consider Benghazi, Syria, and Crimea.

 

Putin is playing us for fools and knows he can do whatever he wants because Obama is nothing but a pussy gasbag. Obama has so much guilt and disdain for the greatness of America that he's actively trying to reduce our standing in the world. He would rather let Putin replace us on the world stage.

 

Obama has done more damage to this country's image than any president in decades.

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" Did his service in National Guard "

 

Wrong.

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Obama has done more damage to the rootin', tootin', god-loving, fag-hatin', big-dick cowboy image that I want for this country this country's image than any president in decades.

 

fixed that for ya, sock.

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Obama has done more damage to the rootin', tootin', god-loving, fag-hatin', big-dick cowboy image that I want for this country this country's image than any president in decades.

 

fixed that for ya, sock.

crap, now I'll have to be nice to you

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Obama has done more damage to this country's image than any president in decades.

No. Dubya was an unmitigated disaster as far as America's image abroad was concerned. Guantanamo Bay above all else. He started as a joke, that turned out to be far from funny. Obama has done little to repair the damage.

 

P.S. I worked for an American company for 2 decades. I've spent time working in the USA. Have many America friends. The statements above give sorrow, not pleasure.

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SS "Sarah Palin" anyone??

Or am I "misunderestimating" someone?

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