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birger75

Farr ILC 40

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Hi,

I want to buy a Farr ILC40 - anyone have any tuning guides or notes for a Farr 40 ILC (97 Model)

 

best regards

Birger

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You could try contacting Murray Burns & Dovall. For the right price they might be willing to jump in the time machine.

 

Other than that, good luck. Can't imagine there are many around in the original configuration.

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It's got runners. Just crank them on till you are scared, then put a few more turns on.

 

Sail deep angles downhill.

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Hi,

I want to buy a Farr ILC40 - anyone have any tuning guides or notes for a Farr 40 ILC (97 Model)

 

best regards

Birger

Why?

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Because its cheap. It appears he also has a full wallet and an unbroken dream right now...

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There is one boat for sale that's very cheap in cost (15000usd) so I figured, it could be a cheap way to the race course - however the boat was totally neglected for 5 years... Looked like a dump, so it turns out that it's cheaper to buy something else.

 

Thanx anyway

b

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First thing to do if you bought that boat would be to recalibrate the speedo.

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First thing to do if you bought that boat would be to recalibrate the speedo.

my thoughts exactly... I've sailed on three ILC40's - they're great boats and i love them, but they are not 24kt machines in my experience (up to 22tws or so).

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As for the speedo in todays world of GPS on your phone, your watch etc real speed is easily obtained. I reckon $120k is more like the real price. Depending on your sailing requirements there are other boats in this sort of price point, you could pick up a Farr40OD for around $150K I would have thought. The advantage of the Farr40 is aftermarket second hand sails and plenty of tuning information. My only other comment is that the Farr40OD build quality should be taken into consideration vs the ILC40

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still need an accurate speedo for accurate wind numbers *cough

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For the record that boat in Malta looks like Commanche raider- if it is you'd be mad not to, she's extremely quick, lights up the middle sea race often enough

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All it takes is a big enough wave....

They don't help you going uphill though...

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What does "ILC" stand for?

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All it takes is a big enough wave airplane....

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International Level Class rule.

 

Following a two-year development period in the early 1990’s for a new Grand Prix Rule, the ORC inaugurated the International Level Class Rule (ILC Rule) based on levels defined using the International Measurement System (IMS). Under the ILC system, levels are set by "performance envelope" limits, i.e., performance limits at 3 points of sail in 3 wind velocities ensuring close class racing on all courses.

The first ILC World Championship was held for the ILC 40 in Denmark in 1995. In the years immediately following, the rules for the full ILC family were developed, eventually including the ILC 25, 30, 40, 46 and ILC Maxi Classes. As the new classes emerged, they replaced the corresponding IOR Ton classes, with the last ORC World Championship under IOR being held in Quarter Tonners in 1996 and the 1 Ton Cup in Marseille in 1994. These classes eventually led to the adoption of more flexible forms of the level class format, e.g., the IMS 600 Class.

As the use of IMS in grand prix racing grew, it became necessary for Council to take steps to protect the fleet for which IMS had originally been developed by defining two divisions within IMS, the Cruiser/Racer Division and the Racing Division, the distinction being made on the basis the degree to which the features of a yacht's build, outfit and accommodation suited cruising considerations. The prescriptions for this were promulgated in 1993, and are now contained in the IMS Rule, and are accounted for in rating credit.

By the mid-1990’s the popularity of the IMS had grown to the degree that the IOR was completely replaced, and by 1999 an IMS World Championship was introduced with scoring based on time allowances.

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I have more or less dropped the idea- however I am thinking a 30ft boat is more sane. For the same budget an ocean going 30ft racer... What would you recommend?

 

Personally I am thinking farr30...

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Farr 30. Ocean going. I guess that depends on the relative size of your brain and your balls.

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Farr 30. Ocean going. I guess that depends on the relative size of your brain and your balls.

The mummfarr is certainly a cheap way to go pretty quick offshore. Since the Mumm will never win an upwind race, why not get a pogo or something like that?

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I am pursuing the farr30, anyone know the pitfalls, does and dont's in terms of buying a farr 30?

 

-B

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I am pursuing the farr30, anyone know the pitfalls, does and dont's in terms of buying a farr 30?

 

Check with Christofer Brugge in sweden( christofer.brugge@gmail.com) together with Patrick Lindblom he is actively helping people in Northern Europe to acquire Farr30s to build a one design fleet. They have a list of available boats.
A

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There is one boat for sale that's very cheap in cost (15000usd) so I figured, it could be a cheap way to the race course - however the boat was totally neglected for 5 years... Looked like a dump, so it turns out that it's cheaper to buy something else.

 

Thanx anyway

b

The ILC's were great boats in their time. Given an age allowance in IRC, the boat should still rate really well too. Boats were built in Aramid and had AL masts. For max rating, you wouldn't want to change any of that. If you think the boat will compete with a modern fast 40, you're looking at the following:

Turbo carbon rig

remove IMS lead from hull

new keel (ILC's had a blade keel)

Prod

new sails

 

The upgrades will cost you more than the boat. You should be looking to pay about $70,000 US for an ILC 40

 

If you need more info, Pm me. Ran a Farr ILC for a good 5 years

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Have bought a Farr 30 - can't wait to get it shipped up to Norway ;)

 

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Have bought a Farr 30 - can't wait to get it shipped up to Norway ;)

 

B

 

Gratulerer!

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@AndreasE_NO Takk!

 

Going insane.... waiting for the boat to arrive :) ready for shipping from France on Monday...

 

-B

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I am pursuing the farr30, anyone know the pitfalls, does and dont's in terms of buying a farr 30?

 

-B

 

Many of them have required re-decking. The spars often need attention at at a minimum new awlgrip.

 

I've sailed a number of these and I will tell you, offshore they are wet, cold and miserable. After two days the inside smells like an old hockey gear bag.

 

In any real breeze they are a handful, but boy are they a hoot. Absolutely one of my favorite boats. Offshore, I mean really offshore? No thanks.

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