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Sabre rattling is probably the most likely scenario but if the Auckland council doesn't get their shit together in time It may start to look more viable.

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25 minutes ago, Battleship said:

Sabre rattling is probably the most likely scenario but if the Auckland council doesn't get their shit together in time It may start to look more viable.

I think they will if for no other reason than they would get trounced at the ballot box and lose their cushy little jobs.

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9 hours ago, sclarke said:

But Tauranga would be a fairly strong option I would think.

Set the course around Rabbit Island and Motiti.

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Tauranga looks to be a very nice alternative.

Since most of the event spend is likely to be by local NZers how far from big-population Auckland is it, about 100 miles and under two hours by car? edit: apparently 200km, 2hr 30m by car.

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5 hours ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Tauranga looks to be a very nice alternative.

Since most of the event spend is likely to be by local NZers how far from big-population Auckland is it, about 100 miles and under two hours by car? edit: apparently 200km, 2hr 30m by car.

Nice drive too.

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2 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Nice drive too.

Yes, especially as you get closer to Paeroa. Lovely part of the country and great drink too!

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Yes, especially as you get closer to Paeroa. Lovely part of the country and great drink too!

Only improved by a slosh of a distilled sugarcane alcoholic beverage and bittersThe drink, that is!

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18 hours ago, sclarke said:

So word on the street is, that since Peter Burling is from Tauranga, and plans for Auckland are very slow, that Tauranga New Zealand is being seriously considered for the next defence. It would be great for Tauranga, as Pete Burling and Blair Tuke spent a fair chunk of time training here in the lead up to Rio, and they will definitely have the hometown crowd behind them 110%. A new Marine Precinct is currently under construction also. Not to mention the country's largest Port is here as well. 

Sounds nice but the logistics and economics won't work for Tauranga. How would they cope with 5000+ Auckland boaties descending into town for the events??

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1 hour ago, Indio said:

Sounds nice but the logistics and economics won't work for Tauranga. How would they cope with 5000+ Auckland boaties descending into town for the events??

That could make for quite the flotilla... wonder if I could pull it off in my 4.5m 1978 Fleetline ;-)

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2 hours ago, Indio said:

Sounds nice but the logistics and economics won't work for Tauranga. How would they cope with 5000+ Auckland boaties descending into town for the events??

That would be easy there is over 7,000 people every time we have two cruise ships dock, there is usually a huge influx of tourists every summer so the place is geared up for it.

Imagine trying to book a hotel in auckland for the AC can't even get one now let alone when something is on. 

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The photos of Tauranga suggest there is plenty of waterfront availability, in a beauty location. It’s no wonder ETNZ is looking into it, for just in case.

The Protocol that LR signed specifies only Auckland or Italy. Maybe P$B would, out of the gentleness of his soft heart, amiably agree a big change in venue..?

 

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4 hours ago, rh2600 said:

That could make for quite the flotilla... wonder if I could pull it off in my 4.5m 1978 Fleetline ;-)

Ah...I should think there'd be more than enough... Oh never mind.

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On 11/9/2017 at 9:34 PM, jaysper said:

Don't live in Tauranga perchance ?

Hey, I'd love to see the A.C. in Wellington but the reality is that it would look more like "Survivour" than the A.C with 100kmhr winds being considered little more than a good stiff breeze here.

As much as I hate to say it, the only logical place is Auckland. 

tuff nuts for you...of course Auckland.

hope you don't loose your cushy job over your rumitations. 

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On 10/11/2017 at 1:57 PM, Battleship said:

That would be easy there is over 7,000 people every time we have two cruise ships dock, there is usually a huge influx of tourists every summer so the place is geared up for it.

Imagine trying to book a hotel in auckland for the AC can't even get one now let alone when something is on. 

Given that every second house sold in Tauranga in the last few years was probably bought by an Aucklander anyway, it's pretty much just another suburb now isn't it?

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1 hour ago, Boybland said:

Given that every second house sold in Tauranga in the last few years was probably bought by an Aucklander anyway, it's pretty much just another suburb now isn't it?

Pretty much, things are a lot busier now, sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes for me to get to work.

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4 hours ago, Battleship said:

Pretty much, things are a lot busier now, sometimes it can take up to 10 minutes for me to get to work.

I can see why people move, there are places up here where it takes 10 minutes to get through the first set of lights.

 

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On 11/10/2017 at 1:57 PM, Battleship said:

That would be easy there is over 7,000 people every time we have two cruise ships dock, there is usually a huge influx of tourists every summer so the place is geared up for it.

Imagine trying to book a hotel in auckland for the AC can't even get one now let alone when something is on. 

I was referring to 5000+ boats of every description and size descending on Tauranga harbour...

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Where do you get 5000 from? Even if every single boat in Westhaven came down (unlikely in the extreme) that is not even two thousand. Can you honestly see 5000 boat coming down?. By far the best viewing would be from land on the side of Mt Maunganui.

I Can see things getting a bit cramped as far as super yacht berths go, they would need to make room for them at the port.

There is a huge amount of sheltered anchorage in the inner harbour for smaller boats if you were on a budget and wanted to take your own, but limited amount of empty marina berths, probably only 100 or so. Then again all the game fishing boats and others may choose to base themselves elsewhere and rent their berths out while the cup is on.

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1 hour ago, Battleship said:

Where do you get 5000 from? Even if every single boat in Westhaven came down (unlikely in the extreme) that is not even two thousand. Can you honestly see 5000 boat coming down?. By far the best viewing would be from land on the side of Mt Maunganui.

I Can see things getting a bit cramped as far as super yacht berths go, they would need to make room for them at the port.

There is a huge amount of sheltered anchorage in the inner harbour for smaller boats if you were on a budget and wanted to take your own, but limited amount of empty marina berths, probably only 100 or so. Then again all the game fishing boats and others may choose to base themselves elsewhere and rent their berths out while the cup is on.

Don't get too excited - Tauranga will never host an AC Defence..

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13 minutes ago, Indio said:

Don't get too excited - Tauranga will never host an AC Defence..

They said Trump would never be President, and look what happened.

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1 hour ago, sclarke said:

They said Trump would never be President, and look what happened.

Are you calling Auckland Hilary? Ouch!

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5 hours ago, sclarke said:

They said Trump would never be President, and look what happened.

Only in Amerika mate...

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2 hours ago, ~Stingray~ said:

Kiwi America's Cup sailors Peter Burling and Blair Tuke were at the centre of the hijinx as the Volvo Ocean Race fleet crossed the Equator.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11943749

Ha, ha. Well done, King Neptune. Two more raw recruits.

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Elise Beavis came fresh out of university in late 2015 to join one of the most successful sports teams in the world. Photo: Hamish Hooper ETNZ

Meet Team NZ’s ‘golden girl’

 

Since winning the America’s Cup, Emirates Team New Zealand have had just two designers working full-time on conceiving a yacht, the like of which has never been sailed before.

One of them is Dan Bernasconi, the team’s technical director, with a glittering 25-year design career that includes working for McLaren’s Formula One team.

The other is 23-year-old Elise Beavis, a talented sailor in her youth, who came fresh out of university in late 2015 to join one of the most successful sports teams in the world. It doesn’t seem to bother Beavis that her boss was solving engineering problems well before she was born.

“I’m quite a lot younger than other people here; a new grad who’s not an expert in any area. But they’ve trusted me to do my job right,” she says. “I know I’m pretty lucky to have been given this opportunity.”

.......

And she’s already taking tips from “sailing” the AC75. “I am yet to successfully do a foiling gybe in my Waszp. So what I have learned from sailing the new America’s Cup boat on the simulator is the importance of keeping zero heel through a gybe,” she laughs.

.......

“We need to decide what limitations to place on the design so it doesn’t become crazily, stupidly expensive, and to decide the areas where we want the development to be,” she says. “Then once the rule is out, then we can concentrate on what we did with the AC50 – make it as fast as possible.

 

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/11/21/62424/meet-team-nzs-golden-girl

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2 hours ago, nav said:

“I am yet to successfully do a foiling gybe in my Waszp. So what I have learned from sailing the new America’s Cup boat on the simulator is the importance of keeping zero heel through a gybe,” she laughs.

It’s a brilliant question. HTH do you do that with a three-d boat if you are two-footed? Crazy foil articulations, here we come.

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A big night for Emirates Team New Zealand at the Yachting New ZealandExcellence awards

Volvo Yachting Excellence Awards:
- Sailor of the Year: Emirates Team New Zealand
- Coach of the Year: Murray Jones & Ray Davies
- President’s Award: Emirates Team New Zealand board of directors & Torbay Sailing Club

Performance Awards:
- Peter Burling (Tauranga Yacht & Powerboat Club)
- Emirates Team New Zealand (RNZYS)

Service Awards:
- Matteo de Nora (Emirates Team New Zealand)

Congratulations on all of tonights award winners across all categories.
New Zealand Yachting is looking strong!

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Off the back of being named Rolex World Male Sailor of the Year, Zhik congratulates their Team Rider, Peter Burling on being named M2 Man of the Year 2017!

 

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16 hours ago, Barnyb said:

Off the back of being named Rolex World Male Sailor of the Year, Zhik congratulates their Team Rider, Peter Burling on being named M2 Man of the Year 2017!

 

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Love that tag line. All I have to do to perform like Pete, is buy their product. Yeah right. ;)

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Team New Zealand exclude Peter Burling from Halberg Awards nominations

Peter Burling will not be among those in contention for New Zealand's top male sporting honour, with Team New Zealand not putting him forward for the Sportsman of the Year category at next year's Halberg Awards.

 

It is believed that Team New Zealand have turned down such nomination suggestions themselves, choosing instead to focus on the achievements of the team, rather than that of any individuals.

Yachting New Zealand chief executive David Abercrombie said that the organisation did not want to go against the wishes of Team New Zealand, not putting Burling forward to the Halberg trust.

"As much we - from a yachting perspective - would like to see Pete recognised as well ... we respect Team New Zealand's view on that," he told Fairfax.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/other/team-new-zealand-exclude-peter-burling-halberg-awards-nominations

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Was Russell the Rat made sports person of the year after he had sailed for Alinghi or Oracle.

Getting olderer so memory not that sharp.

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16 hours ago, Barnyb said:

Team New Zealand exclude Peter Burling from Halberg Awards nominations

Peter Burling will not be among those in contention for New Zealand's top male sporting honour, with Team New Zealand not putting him forward for the Sportsman of the Year category at next year's Halberg Awards.

 

Great decision by ETNZ. Would have been an easy one to make...well done.

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On 12/4/2017 at 3:20 PM, ~Stingray~ said:

Team New Zealand's Peter Burling has been named as the world's best foiling sailor after winning the World Sailor of the Year award for the second time.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11953296

Still don’t completely get why ETNZ wouldn’t just let this outfit award Burling, but whatever..

Mark Reason: Team New Zealand deserve an award for not nominating Peter Burling

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/99675293/mark-reason-team-new-zealand-deserve-an-award-for-not-nominating-peter-burling

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Sailing: Team New Zealand's turmoil before their America's Cup win

"People don't know all these details but a few months before the America's Cup they had some breakages with the foils. They were in a tough spot in New Zealand," Kouyoumdjian told Nautical Channel.

"They solved – and there was a little rule change that helped them a lot – what could've been an end gamer for them."

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11956679

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Of all the people who might make comment about ETNZ structural issues, he is the last I'd have expected to do it :blink:

Guess he's touting about for a JC75 commission....

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2 hours ago, hoom said:

Of all the people who might make comment about ETNZ structural issues, he is the last I'd have expected to do it :blink:

The foil problems were common knowledge during the campaign and were admitted to by GD and others afterwards. The Rule changes were also made a big point of contention by ETNZ but, as Juan K here and RC before him pointed out, one of them ended up basically saving ETNZ’s campaign.

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10 hours ago, Barnyb said:

Sailing: Team New Zealand's turmoil before their America's Cup win

"People don't know all these details but a few months before the America's Cup they had some breakages with the foils. They were in a tough spot in New Zealand," Kouyoumdjian told Nautical Channel.

"They solved – and there was a little rule change that helped them a lot – what could've been an end gamer for them."

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11956679

In case the video link doesn’t work for others too, this one does for me:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1595920397131221&id=156822357707706&ref=page_internal

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7 hours ago, hoom said:

Of all the people who might make comment about ETNZ structural issues, he is the last I'd have expected to do it :blink:

Guess he's touting about for a JC75 commission....

Might stand a better chance of landing one too, now the ACC is a mono (sort of).

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6 hours ago, ~Stingray~ said:

The foil problems were common knowledge during the campaign and were admitted to by GD and others afterwards. The Rule changes were also made a big point of contention by ETNZ but, as Juan K here and RC before him pointed out, one of them ended up basically saving ETNZ’s campaign.

Damn I knew I'd forgotten something in that post, yes rumors of damaged foils in early testing were well known.

Exactly how bad & the extent of 95 style disinformation I'm still not sure of.

Likewise under which rule they were repaired is unclear, ETNZ from recollection denied they were able to repair under the late change.

 

33 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Might stand a better chance of landing one too, now the ACC is a mono (sort of).

More to the point: the major structural bits are likely to be one-design so he can't fuck them up & kill people :ph34r:

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=11958623

America's Cup hero Peter Burling was one of the most searched for Kiwi names this year, according to new data released by Google.

... The America's Cup was the top-trending sports event and second most popular overall search, beaten only by "Lotto result NZ".

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13 hours ago, Barnyb said:

1 NEWS NOW's top five moments in 2017 that made you proud to be a Kiwi

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/1-news-nows-top-five-moments-in-2017-made-you-proud-kiwi

 

 

Its been a good year for TNZ. 

Merry xmas to all!  BB

Thanks, Barny. And to you.

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On 09/11/2017 at 9:34 PM, jaysper said:

Don't live in Tauranga perchance ?

Hey, I'd love to see the A.C. in Wellington but the reality is that it would look more like "Survivour" than the A.C with 100kmhr winds being considered little more than a good stiff breeze here.

As much as I hate to say it, the only logical place is Auckland. 

Why should a shot shithole like Wellington get any regatta. Nobody sails there anymore and it's full of wannabes who know fuck all about sailing. Every club is in bad shape with record low membership and piss poor regatta ability.

 

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Tauranga is no good for holding anything other than lawn bowls tournaments. There's no protection from the open ocean, no population of significance that supports sailing and no money nor waterfront left to develop a base. Tauranga is a total toilet of a place that only old farts and hipsters enjoy.

Yes. It's me.

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New to me, at http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/10682_More-stars-of-the-sport-are-joining-Volvo-Ocean-Race-teams-for-Leg-4.html

“It was always the plan that Burling and Balcaen went home after this leg,” Bekking confirmed. “Burling has sailed everything from the start and also has some America’s Cup obligations in the coming weeks.
 

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6 minutes ago, ~Stingray~ said:

HNY

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Bermuda looked bigger on TV!

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from https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/sailing/star-crew-of-euroflex-play-down-superfoiler-favourites-tag-20180102-h0cd1h.html

Glenn Ashby, Nathan Outteridge and Iain Jensen are already referred to as the "dream team" a month out from the season opener in Adelaide, where they will start their SuperFoiler campaign as one of the strongest three-man sailing crews ever assembled.

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Team New Zealand skipper Glenn Ashby wins 11th national catamaran title in Australia

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/100326935/team-new-zealand-skipper-glenn-ashby-wins-11th-national-catamaran-title-in-australia

The multihull specialist took a bit of time to get back in the groove but stormed home over the second half of the championship, winning five of the last six races in the single-handed cats on Lake Macquarie.

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I'm not entirely sure why an all-AUS team winning an AUS multihull title makes it into the "Team NZ" thread on the AC forum.

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3 hours ago, dogwatch said:

I'm not entirely sure why an all-AUS team winning an AUS multihull title makes it into the "Team NZ" thread on the AC forum.

i dont know why team NZ shit gets into every other fucking thread

get over it

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17 hours ago, dogwatch said:

I'm not entirely sure why an all-AUS team winning an AUS multihull title makes it into the "Team NZ" thread on the AC forum.

Hahaha...the Pinot drunkard is desperate to reach 50k posts?

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On 1/3/2018 at 3:41 PM, ~Stingray~ said:

Team New Zealand skipper Glenn Ashby wins 11th national catamaran title in Australia

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/100326935/team-new-zealand-skipper-glenn-ashby-wins-11th-national-catamaran-title-in-australia

The multihull specialist took a bit of time to get back in the groove but stormed home over the second half of the championship, winning five of the last six races in the single-handed cats on Lake Macquarie.

 

20 hours ago, dogwatch said:

I'm not entirely sure why an all-AUS team winning an AUS multihull title makes it into the "Team NZ" thread on the AC forum.

Maybe you missed the headline.

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I saw the headline, which was idiotic for the reasons I indicated. I don't think the blunder needed to be repeated here.

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Came across this old (June 2017) Max Sirena interview:

"He is the Italian who knows better Peter Burling, the youngest helmsman to have won the America's Cup, in 161 years of history. Is he the new Russell Coutts? Can you tell us?

"Honestly, I think it's much better than Russell. It's an advantage for New Zealand and for those who will work with him. To explain who he is, I will say that we call him "mister detail", Mr. Detail. I have never seen such a boy in my life: I had - in my career - the chance to sail with many helmsmen even among the first in the world (Coutts, Spithill, De Angelis, Cayard, just to give some examples, ed) but I've never seen someone like him, especially at this age. As soon as he got back on the ground, after hours at sea and after all the appropriate meetings, he stopped in each of the various containers (the base is a huge cluster of containers, each one is a department, ed). And for all his words were a source of stimulus and inspiration to look for new things, to experiment. How to say is a phenomenon on the boat, but it is a phenomenon on the ground ".

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^ Never seen that one. Interesting insight from MS - thanks

(did you miss the memo though, non-kiwis in the team accumulate all credit, the kiwis gain only derision...)

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^ That deserves a quote :D

Yachts and Yachting says

"These plucky Kiwis [and Australian skipper/wing trimmer Glenn Ashby] scarcely need introduction," they said in announcing the win at the show where they ran replays of the team's pedal-powered foiling cataraman.

"The New Zealanders managed to overcome budgetary problems, logistical challenges and a range of significant differences in opinion with both the then defender Oracle Team USA and the other challengers to win the America's Cup.

"They achieved the victory by 'throwing the design ball as far away as they could and trying to get to it' in the words of team CEO Grant Dalton. They were vastly superior to all other teams at the event, made up of some of the finest sailors and designers on the planet.

"It was clear from race one they were in another league and, for all the excitement of the regatta, it never looked likely anyone else would be drinking champagne from the auld mug come the end of proceedings."

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On 1/6/2018 at 12:11 AM, Xlot said:

Came across this old (June 2017) Max Sirena interview:

"He is the Italian who knows better Peter Burling, the youngest helmsman to have won the America's Cup, in 161 years of history. Is he the new Russell Coutts? Can you tell us?

"Honestly, I think it's much better than Russell. It's an advantage for New Zealand and for those who will work with him. To explain who he is, I will say that we call him "mister detail", Mr. Detail. I have never seen such a boy in my life: I had - in my career - the chance to sail with many helmsmen even among the first in the world (Coutts, Spithill, De Angelis, Cayard, just to give some examples, ed) but I've never seen someone like him, especially at this age. As soon as he got back on the ground, after hours at sea and after all the appropriate meetings, he stopped in each of the various containers (the base is a huge cluster of containers, each one is a department, ed). And for all his words were a source of stimulus and inspiration to look for new things, to experiment. How to say is a phenomenon on the boat, but it is a phenomenon on the ground ".

Do you have a link to the article?

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Team NZ earn nomination at prestigious Laureus Sports Awards

Emirates Team New Zealand have been nominated for team of the year at the prestigious Laureus Sports Awards.

The America's Cup winners join the French Davis Cup team, Golden State Warriors, Real Madrid, the Mercedes Formula One team and the New England Patriots.

The All Blacks won the award in 2015 following their third Rugby World Cup triumph.

"Emirates Team New Zealand are truly honoured to be nominated for this prestigious award alongside some other remarkable teams," CEO Grant Dalton said.

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/sport-news/yachting/team-nz-earn-nomination-at-prestigious-laureus-sports-awards/

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TV interview, pretty good. PB talks a little AC starting around 3:15, says the new boat will be 'a step up on the AC50 in quite a few conditions'  and includes something like "The first Challenger has now entered, the NYYC." At the beginning he says he hasn't re-signed yet with ETNZ but that 'it's looking good.'

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/more-sports/peter-burling-visits-the-am-show/ar-AAuZcoc

America's Cup winner Peter Burling has been resting and not racing over the past few weeks.

But that is set to change. 

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Excuse me, but your desperate anti-kiwi bias is showing sir.

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Volvo, Olympics and AC are 3 different beasts. That's why no one has won all three yet.

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12 minutes ago, nav said:

Excuse me, but your desperate anti-kiwi bias is showing sir.

If you had been able to follow, I have nothing against the kiwis but all against chest beating fans.

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8 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Peter Burling on Brunel finishes 3rd in Volvo Hong Kong inside race, 4 th in general, the first being the breton Charles Caudrelier, with other french Bidegorry, Beyou, Riou, Escoffier Cammas,  on Donfeng.

The fans who told us he would smoke everybody were..... wrong, at least for now.

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/fr/home.html

Which fans where those btw?

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9 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Peter Burling on Brunel finishes 3rd in Volvo Hong Kong inside race, 4 th in general, the first being the breton Charles Caudrelier, with other french Bidegorry, Beyou, Riou, Escoffier Cammas,  on Donfeng.

The fans who told us he would smoke everybody were..... wrong, at least for now.

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/fr/home.html

mapfre is going to smoke them, tuke will  be the trifecta man.  

something is slow on brunel but it isn't pete. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Qman said:

mapfre is going to smoke them, tuke will  be the trifecta man.  

something is slow on brunel but it isn't pete. 

 

You may be right, Mapfre is at the present time leading around the island race with a pretty confortable 1300 m advance. Anyway, too late here, I'm going to bed. Brunel is as usual far behind.

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at https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/101075802/peter-burling-blair-tuke-commit-to-new-zealand-sailing-team-for-2018

America's Cup heroes Peter Burling and Blair Tuke have been named in New Zealand's 2018 sailing team, but their Olympic future remains unclear.

Burling and Tuke, who are competing in the Volvo Ocean Race, are yet to make a final decision whether they will defend their gold in the 49er class at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

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from a piece by Ashby at https://www.playersvoice.com.au/glenn-ashby-my-life-on-knife-edge/#JkQyTKMGtFkKoCw2.97

The fact the wing control system was all hydraulic meant I could use basically an Xbox type controller with buttons and three joystick toggles to control all the wing’s functions, sheet and jib with one little control box rather than a rope on a winch. I could do that from either side of the boat and we could do a lot of manoeuvres our opponent couldn’t.

 

I was the wing trimmer and also the skipper of the team and ultimately as a group, we made better decisions and managed our risk versus reward well. It was a fantastic group of guys, a great sailing team and a great group of people. To be able to pull it off was a proud feeling.

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Not going to let defunct OR climb above TeamNZ.

At least they still fly !!

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12 minutes ago, Woolfy said:

And the supreme award too! Richly deserved.

Wonderful evening at The Halbergs. ETNZ gets the nod despite some awesome performance in other disciplines.

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18 hours ago, Kiwing said:

Where are all the TNZ fanboys?

And here.

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Trudeau would insist on Fanpeople of course !

They are a shot in the arm for NZers - well done TNZ !

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