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PigeonVision

Superyacht Mast pulled filmed by a Drone -- Pigeon Vision

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Hey peeps,

 

Thought you guys would enjoy this, its Felicita West mast being pulled out. This crane is the largest in the state of FL.

 

Hope you guys enjoy.

 

 

-Pigeon Vision

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A few comments-

 

First, that was amazing.

Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

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Great video once again.

 

Sweet tap dancing christ there's some money sitting there in that marina... :blink::wacko:

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Way to go Tony and the crew from Seahawke rigging. True proffesionals.

 

I am sure all the other yachts in the yard are pleased to loose their parking spots to a couple blow boat rigs taking up most of what little parking there is at Rybovich.

 

Again great job to a first class rigging company!

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That damn Obama has obviously crippled the economy ! Just look at those poor yacht owners in Flo-rida.

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Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

Yes, drones are virtually silent. My neighbour just bought one and it makes no noise at all. All battery / electric motors.

 

I was just hearing on the news about people flying drones into airport zones. Certainly very bad. But given that even a $300 Radio Shack drone can carry 1 lb, I'm wondering how long it will be before we have our first terrorist attacks on airliners at takeoff. 1 lb of explosives would take down a jet I'm sure.

 

On a happier note, drones are certainly changing the entire film industry. They are giving us a view of the world that we never had before. I think we are just getting the start of this now.

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The crazy thing is that we were already doing this 20 years ago with little cameras and a ham radio FM Tv downlink. But that was not mass produced and that is all the difference.

 

It's like google glass. Also 20 years ago--the MIT guys with the ham radio FM TV link attached to their thrid eye all day. Ät the grocery store, "honey, what do you think of these vegetables?"

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Great video once again.

 

Sweet tap dancing christ there's some money sitting there in that marina... :blink::wacko:

 

Any normal person could retire in comfort for what that rig is worth.

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For some reason, these videos remind me of those birds that perch on the back of a rhinoceros. It's a niche. It will find a taker.

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Nice job, PV.

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The whole level of expertise that is shown on this video is amazing. Everyone had to do their job to the T. Not a simple matter to make all the moves and translations to get that massive rig on its chocks in the parking lot. Nice video and really shows just how good these guys and yourselves are at their respective jobs. Thank!

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Thank you guys! All comments are greatly appreciated, Tony and the guys at Seahawke Rigging are true professionals. What a seamless job they did.

 

More goodies to come!

 

Stay stoked my friends,

 

-Pigeon

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Great video once again.

 

Sweet tap dancing christ there's some money sitting there in that marina... :blink::wacko:

 

Any normal person could retire in comfort for what that rig is worth.

The mast they pulled is worth what most of us payed for our homes.

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Is it me, or did i see Necker Belle, Sir Richard Branson's 110ft toy catamaran, in the back of the marina at Rybovich?

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I would love to have this service at our regattas on the Ches. Bay.

 

Currently, we have a company called Offshorepix.com that buzzes the area in a sort of sea-plane. They do a great job, and their prices are much more reasonable and other companies, but using a drone would probably greatly reduce their costs and hence anyone else who loves aerial photos of their boats.

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Great video. They picked a windless day judging by the anemometer at the top of the crane.

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Great video! Always impressive watching a good rigger and crane operator- like a fine symphony.

 

Ajax - we have a firm called "boatpix.com" down here that takes photos of boats and uses the documented name and port to send you an offer to buy the photos. The more you are out there, the more photos and contacts they send you. We average 2-3 solicitations per year from them.

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Thank you guys! All comments are greatly appreciated, Tony and the guys at Seahawke Rigging are true professionals. What a seamless job they did.

 

More goodies to come!

 

Stay stoked my friends,

 

-Pigeon

Pigeon, the last 10 seconds of your St. Barts regatta footage was pretty sporty. Where'd she go ? She oughta be in all your videos.

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Love your work, BTW any more pics of your girlfriend?

 

(1) your newly posting here

 

(2) its friday ;-)



sailor LOL

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The guy in the bosun's chair has got stones the size of that rig. I don't suffer from vertigo (much) but I dunno if i'd take that ride.

 

I know the difference between 30' and 175' doesn't matter - dead is dead but still..... :o

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That bosuns chair ride would be ridiculous. By the way, were you walking next to the drone on the low PL shots?? Where were you standing for the high elevation pics?? I assume you had to get permission from the crew to operate, just curious what hoops you had to jump through to gain access.

 

Good stuff.. Keep em coming.

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This was a fascinating viewpoint to an interesting evolution… thanks for sharing. Since this ends up being an awesome informercial for Seahawke Rigging, I wonder if they'd provide a little voice-over interview/explanation of a few of the finer points of the process?

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Tony, the rigger and I worked together on this project. We may have another video coming out next week of Zenji pulling there rig out as well.

 

There going to fit 3 masts in that parking lot I'm curious how there squeeze the cranes inbetween all of them, guess we will wait and see!

 

Thanks for the comments & tips we will try to do some voice-over's on the next one that provides some information about loads / weights / facts about the pull.

 

Pigeon

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Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

Yes, drones are virtually silent. My neighbour just bought one and it makes no noise at all. All battery / electric motors.

 

I was just hearing on the news about people flying drones into airport zones. Certainly very bad. But given that even a $300 Radio Shack drone can carry 1 lb, I'm wondering how long it will be before we have our first terrorist attacks on airliners at takeoff. 1 lb of explosives would take down a jet I'm sure.

 

On a happier note, drones are certainly changing the entire film industry. They are giving us a view of the world that we never had before. I think we are just getting the start of this now.

 

The rigger up the mast, the guy on the halyard, the crane driver and maybe a couple other are all wearing communication headsets. That is the only way to communicate over the distances and screaming from the top of the rig would be futile. They would never have even heard a drone near them.

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So cool to see that work being done from all those angles. I always love seeing your video up. Keep it up!

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Great video once again.

 

Sweet tap dancing christ there's some money sitting there in that marina... :blink::wacko:

 

Any normal person could retire in comfort for what that rig is worth.

The mast they pulled is worth what most of us payed for our homes.

 

Let's assume a house cost $5-600k... The furling package alone would be north of that.

 

There'd be no change out of $12mill for that rig.

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Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

Yes, drones are virtually silent. My neighbour just bought one and it makes no noise at all. All battery / electric motors.

 

I was just hearing on the news about people flying drones into airport zones. Certainly very bad. But given that even a $300 Radio Shack drone can carry 1 lb, I'm wondering how long it will be before we have our first terrorist attacks on airliners at takeoff. 1 lb of explosives would take down a jet I'm sure.

 

On a happier note, drones are certainly changing the entire film industry. They are giving us a view of the world that we never had before. I think we are just getting the start of this now.

The rigger up the mast, the guy on the halyard, the crane driver and maybe a couple other are all wearing communication headsets. That is the only way to communicate over the distances and screaming from the top of the rig would be futile. They would never have even heard a drone near them.

 

An interesting point. From about half way up, the bosons chair isn't hauled up... The weight of the halyard weights more than the dude in the chair...

 

There's a down haul on him that controls his ascent, not the halyard!

 

When it's time to come down, he gets winched down, not lowered.

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Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

Yes, drones are virtually silent. My neighbour just bought one and it makes no noise at all. All battery / electric motors.

 

I was just hearing on the news about people flying drones into airport zones. Certainly very bad. But given that even a $300 Radio Shack drone can carry 1 lb, I'm wondering how long it will be before we have our first terrorist attacks on airliners at takeoff. 1 lb of explosives would take down a jet I'm sure.

 

On a happier note, drones are certainly changing the entire film industry. They are giving us a view of the world that we never had before. I think we are just getting the start of this now.

The rigger up the mast, the guy on the halyard, the crane driver and maybe a couple other are all wearing communication headsets. That is the only way to communicate over the distances and screaming from the top of the rig would be futile. They would never have even heard a drone near them.

 

An interesting point. From about half way up, the bosons chair isn't hauled up... The weight of the halyard weights more than the dude in the chair...

 

There's a down haul on him that controls his ascent, not the halyard!

 

When it's time to come down, he gets winched down, not lowered.

 

On boats this big, I have always tied the tail of the halyard to the chair. That way they weight of the halyard is negated and you are just moving the weight of the crew around.

The tales of crew members being sucked into the rig by the weight of the halyard, are endless but no one can name an instance of it actually happening.

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With all the modern day rigging getting lighter and lighter and this rig being pan American rig (can go through the Panama Canal) at 200 feet of air draft as long as you either send up an adult rigger rigger or use a weighted bosons chair as is common, the thought of getting stuck at the top of the mast is,less of an issue. Back when wire to rope was common I remember being sent aloft in weighted chairs to offset the weight of the halyard on these large yachts. I was a bit skeptical the first time, but got use to it as time went on.

 

The only real story I remember of a crew member getting injured by getting sucked into the mast head sheave was on the old New Zealand Americas boat that races against DC's catamaran back in the 80's it might have been an urban legend, but I remember it being an interesting story at the time.

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Just a quick sanity check.

In the world of big crane lifts, this would be fairly low risk.

 

Yes it is impressive due to it being a mega yacht, but for a big lift, its not difficult.

 

Fairly straight forward single crane lift and well inside 75% capacity of that crane.

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Lotta those big boats have dedicated "man lines", halyards that are only about 6 or 8 mm, no need for tag lines.

 

I'd say the bill for lift was at least 100k. And that's just for the cranes!

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Lotta those big boats have dedicated "man lines", halyards that are only about 6 or 8 mm, no need for tag lines.

 

I'd say the bill for lift was at least 100k. And that's just for the cranes!

What? No way.

Even at $1,000 an hour it would be less than $10k each crane for a day, plus milage, surely?

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I managed a 120 tonne mobile crane job in the Melbourne cbd a few years back, it was about 50K just for the crane. But we had to do it at midnight on a Sunday so the penalty rates were huge. That crane there looks like at least a 250 tonne, 2 or 3 grand an hour no problem. It would take a minimum of 4 or 5 hours just to set it up with a crew of 3 or 4.

 

Plus the smaller crane (still looked like 120 tonne), a couple of cherry pickers, a big fork lift etc etc. 100 k easy.

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I managed a 120 tonne mobile crane job in the Melbourne cbd a few years back, it was about 50K just for the crane. But we had to do it at midnight on a Sunday so the penalty rates were huge. That crane there looks like at least a 250 tonne, it would take a minimum of 4 or 5 hours just to set it up with a crew of 3 or 4.

 

Plus the smaller crane (still looked like 120 tonne), a couple of cherry pickers, a big fork lift etc etc. 100 k easy.

Really? Amazing. Good reason to stick with a 30 footer - even if I could afford a bigger boat!!!!

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Yep, as they scale up in size the risks scale up exponentially. It becomes a real science, particularly the density/load ratings of the surface. They take enormous care in spreading the load of each support leg in an even and stable manner. A couple of ol' two by fours just wont cut it!

 

I spent about 350K in three months on cranes, the company sent out a man with me to every site to inspect and measure up the job. He took all sorts of measurements with a tape and also some sort of laser scope for measuring the height. Then he'd take all the data back to the office and feed it into his computer and then recommend the right crane for the job.

 

Was a good fun project while it lasted!

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With all the modern day rigging getting lighter and lighter and this rig being pan American rig (can go through the Panama Canal) at 200 feet of air draft as long as you either send up an adult rigger rigger or use a weighted bosons chair as is common, the thought of getting stuck at the top of the mast is,less of an issue. Back when wire to rope was common I remember being sent aloft in weighted chairs to offset the weight of the halyard on these large yachts. I was a bit skeptical the first time, but got use to it as time went on.

 

The only real story I remember of a crew member getting injured by getting sucked into the mast head sheave was on the old New Zealand Americas boat that races against DC's catamaran back in the 80's it might have been an urban legend, but I remember it being an interesting story at the time.

 

 

I met an old timer in the UK who was aboard VELSHEDA back in the day and a guy was killed this way. According to him, he was the one who went up after to get the body down... head injury... believe it or not???

 

It happened a few times on my boats, with the first of the +50m rigs. Wasn't that dramatic, fast or outta control... We had one "know it all" rigger who didn't beleive us that you need to be mindful of this happening... he went aloft on a 28mm vectran halyard after some rain... toward the masthead the load came off the winch and up he went. He came to a slow stop as the splice slowly jammed in the sheave 3 or so foot from the top... he didn't have the strength however to push himself down and free the splice - we had to go and get him.

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Love your work, BTW any more pics of your girlfriend?

 

(1) your newly posting here

 

(2) its friday ;-)

 

sailor LOL

Well played but don't think Pigeon is going to play along...

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Second, I'm amazed that the rigging crew tolerated that drone buzzing around so close while the actual crane operations were going on. They didn't mind the distraction?

 

Lastly, I noticed that people didn't even look up when the drone was hovering over them in the parking lot. Is it that quiet or was it far away, but using a high powered zoom lens?

Yes, drones are virtually silent. My neighbour just bought one and it makes no noise at all. All battery / electric motors.

 

I was just hearing on the news about people flying drones into airport zones. Certainly very bad. But given that even a $300 Radio Shack drone can carry 1 lb, I'm wondering how long it will be before we have our first terrorist attacks on airliners at takeoff. 1 lb of explosives would take down a jet I'm sure.

 

On a happier note, drones are certainly changing the entire film industry. They are giving us a view of the world that we never had before. I think we are just getting the start of this now.

The rigger up the mast, the guy on the halyard, the crane driver and maybe a couple other are all wearing communication headsets. That is the only way to communicate over the distances and screaming from the top of the rig would be futile. They would never have even heard a drone near them.

 

An interesting point. From about half way up, the bosons chair isn't hauled up... The weight of the halyard weights more than the dude in the chair...

 

There's a down haul on him that controls his ascent, not the halyard!

 

When it's time to come down, he gets winched down, not lowered.

ok that is cool.... You could do some serrious jack sparrow or waterworld shit with that rig.......

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Love your work, BTW any more pics of your girlfriend?

 

(1) your newly posting here

 

(2) its friday ;-)

 

sailor LOL

Well played but don't think Pigeon is going to play along...

The implications of a drone fly by over one of florida's topless beaches is just staggering......

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Great stuff. The next time I need to step the mast on my Precision 23, I know who to call.

 

 

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Florida is not California. I assure you, there is NOTHING good to see at a Florida nudist beach.

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Hey brothers,

 

I know its unrelated but we helped shoot this commercial in Trinidad, the common denominator in this shameless self promo post is beer. We're taking out Zenji's rig on the 16th... any tips for that video?? hmm..

 

 

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Nice work, did you use drones for that as well?

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dunno if you call it a tip - maybe just an 'idea' - every few minutes go to split screen with one side from drone and other side is image from a handheld showing dogman "hand calls" or activity with the mast heel (deck 'n dock stuff that marries to what drone is filming)

 

love your work

 

ML

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You need to retain and trademark the drone recovery by the young lady in the bikini. You should probably include the launch as well.

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any tips for that video?? hmm..

More ass, and send us a heads up before you publish.

 

clean at sailinganarchy dot com

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