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The problem is that two people ,at least two but maybe many many more have said Bullfrog is unsafe, who should be experienced enough have suggested that Bullfrog is possibly unsafe , haven't they? Some of those people are possibly respected yacht riggers , aren't they? So if Bullfrog is taken out and pressed and something goes wrong with the rigging then I am responsible, am I not? Along with that goes substantial devaluing of Bullfrog, does it not? Possible devaluing because of this forum , is it not?  Whats stopping me? Brain damage.Bottman

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5 hours ago, Bottman said:

The problem is that two people ,at least two but maybe many many more have said Bullfrog is unsafe, who should be experienced enough have suggested that Bullfrog is possibly unsafe , haven't they? Some of those people are possibly respected yacht riggers , aren't they? So if Bullfrog is taken out and pressed and something goes wrong with the rigging then I am responsible, am I not? Along with that goes substantial devaluing of Bullfrog, does it not? Possible devaluing because of this forum , is it not?  Whats stopping me? Brain damage.Bottman

Bottman this is probably your worst post as far as selling or sailing your boat goes, I would encourage you to let this thread sink as you are not helping yourself, yes those early negative posts were pretty rough but that is what Sailing Anarchy is about, saying what you think and you’ve replied pretty convincingly so it now would be up to a surveyor to assess the boat for any potential buyer

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8 hours ago, Bottman said:

The problem is that two people ,at least two but maybe many many more have said Bullfrog is unsafe, who should be experienced enough have suggested that Bullfrog is possibly unsafe , haven't they? Some of those people are possibly respected yacht riggers , aren't they? So if Bullfrog is taken out and pressed and something goes wrong with the rigging then I am responsible, am I not? Along with that goes substantial devaluing of Bullfrog, does it not? Possible devaluing because of this forum , is it not?  Whats stopping me? Brain damage.Bottman

If you don’t intend on taking it out beyond the bay, Put a realistic price on it & sell it, use the money for your block of land you told us about. Your 4.6m tinny with the 60hp is plenty of boat to enjoy Moreton Bay with. Lot less hassle too, hose it off & flush it. Service it once a year. Cheap boating! 

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What some of you have done is the equivalent of saying someones partner has screwed the whole town , with no attributes worth anything, haven't you? That's not fair in some eyes is it not? This has a longway to play yet, has it not? Look et SEABREEZE regarding speculation of a boat being overpowered and then capsizing. Should that boat be repaired by an insurance company , justasking? A lot of you seem to think the ultimate performance of a Crowther should be overpowered to the extent that the crew must be in attendance at every winch/clutch constantly for fear she may go over, don't you? To some people this level of risk could make your boat uninsurable , could it not? Bottman.

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Love this mornings edition of the Bottshit chronicles. Overpowered to max, hanging on for for as long as possible is exactly what racing is all about. Something you'll never understand or experience on poor old Bullfrog. 

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Thirty years of being a Registered Nurse I have seen many hundreds of suckers in hospitals all over Australia,  who thought could defy the odds FOREVER, THEY LEARNT THEY CANT. Small doses of calculated risk is about where I like to be.  Twenty five knots coming out Pitwatwer is very pleasant in Bullfrog ,and safe. Don't want to go much faster. Cynophobe you and your mates wont be able to run around at breakneck speeds if you continue to make large insurance claims  THAT WILL SLOW YOU DOWN, no insurance repairs=NO BOAT. Bottman.

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On 12/11/2019 at 12:37 PM, Bottman said:

Thirty years of being a Registered Nurse I have seen many hundreds of suckers in hospitals all over Australia,  who thought could defy the odds FOREVER, THEY LEARNT THEY CANT. Small doses of calculated risk is about where I like to be.  Twenty five knots coming out Pitwatwer is very pleasant in Bullfrog ,and safe. Don't want to go much faster. Cynophobe you and your mates wont be able to run around at breakneck speeds if you continue to make large insurance claims  THAT WILL SLOW YOU DOWN, no insurance repairs=NO BOAT. Bottman.

So what would you know about insurance Bottom ?

You have never insured anything in your life. And the boats you own are All 1 step away from the rubbish tip.

Bullfrog has not been insured under your ownership.

So why do you carry on about insurance when you are not part of it?

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Hangtime ,if that's how you feel ,  did you offer $50,000.00 for Bullfrog, "And all the boats you own are All 1 step away from the rubbish tip" ?   Doesn't add up and we are all still waiting for a reply from Allyacht Spars who you could be seen to have inadvertently defamed , have you defamed them? Cheers Bottman. 

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I have never been part of a sexual orgy with over a hundred people in attendance, but I can have an opinion about one . I have never taken cocaine but I can have an opinion about someone who has, have worked on a few people who have taken drugs without knowing what they put in their bodies, and my opinion is I do all in my knowledge to save their lives. How have you ascertained my insurance cover, because if you have my personal information without my consent then that could be an offence, could it not? Bottman.

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I don’t think it would be fun for you to do cocaine right now, too wound up already. I do suggest some magic mushrooms and a pretty sunset hanging out with a dog or a cow. They will understand you I promise. Then maybe the orgy. 

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Hi Geese, interesting to see how the other side gets their kicks but no thanks , not for this little duck as they say. There are professionals who specialise in people like yourself, if you are in fact telling us about yourself, you could have what is called a personality disorder and therapy consists of psychiatric one on one care for an equivalent period of time one has had the disorder, I would not expect you to recover quickly, get well soon. Does the cocaine help you to cope, is it just for recreation? Bottman

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Bottman the only thing we are addicted to is this stupid forum. Merry Christmas, hugs and kisses and cheers to some good sailing mate!

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Only on SA can you go to a thread about an old race boat and come away with recommendations on the most suitable recreational pharmaceutical to go with your favourite barn yard animal, for your next beastial orgy. Happy Christmas you bunch of depraved crayon munching window lickers :-)

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36 minutes ago, cynophobe said:

Only on SA can you go to a thread about an old race boat and come away with recommendations on the most suitable recreational pharmaceutical to go with your favourite barn yard animal, for your next beastial orgy. Happy Christmas you bunch of depraved crayon munching window lickers :-)

All that being said, a happy Christmas for some of us would be if this thread fizzled and died. I'm as deranged as many of you but I don't get off on Bottman's ranting or the replies to Bottman's ranting. I like more positive topics and trying to reason with someone who has lost the plot is kind of wasted time. I know, I'm reading this stuff and don't have to, but it makes me feel ill all the same. Shit, I sound nuts too..

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This thread needs some music and sailing.........

ahhhhhhh that's better. :)

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I'm not sure why I check out this thread from time to time, but I do out of morbide curiosity and in my view it's fairly bloody close to our old mate Dougie Lord.  Going on and on about the same shit , around and around.  So Bottman look at Dougie and see yourself as a very close relation.

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Russel you are only going to get worse with this one.  I had thrown in my two cents in with with a post on the 737 accidents. To me the only very obvious change to 737,s was the birfurcated wing tips. It is now obvious something had gone wrong  , apart  , from the commonly accepted theory about a software issue. Boeing have suspended manufacture of the 737,s from yesterday. What seems apparent is the planes were uncontrollable, they were flying at much more than their designed maximum speed, I would imagine Boeing had tested to the extreme in regards to airframe integrity . But did they test bed a complete plane with TWO relatively inexperienced pilots (in 737,s) doing their own thing with at least two computers also doing their  own thing, things, and a plane rapidly disintegrating? Relavence here is plane crashes are fluid dynamic issues. Water and air are subject to the same laws of nature only difference is one fluid is stiffer than the other. Lessons from these two disasters will have impact on boat and plane design for a long time. Bifurcated wing tips complicate airflow issues especially when a plane is exceeding its design speed and yaw further complicates things when one considers the maximum tip speed can be greatly increased as the yaw right, yaw left, nose up, nose dowm, roll left ,roll right,speed up, speed down are all happening in a multitude of different combinations,            Would have gone to Sydney for the start of the Hobart but a family issue and a report on this post got , about the rig coming down,in the way. Have not had any further contact from Allyacht Spars so they are either still thinking about Hangtimes opinion of the seaworthiness of their work or they don't care, which is correct Allyacht Spars? Bottman

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I’m pretty sure those Allyacht folks are smart enough to think long and hard before even considering to respond, if at all. It’s just a hunch, but I’m guessing any email you sent them is just as irrational as your posts here. 

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4 hours ago, Monkey said:

I’m pretty sure those Allyacht folks are smart enough to think long and hard before even considering to respond, if at all. It’s just a hunch, but I’m guessing any email you sent them is just as irrational as your posts here. 

Allyacht Spars did not put the mast back on ! They just supplied the wires. They did not reassemble the mast or inspect it after the amateur rebuild. Wires that were not the right length were bodgied up with poorly installed Stalock fittings and any rigger would fail the whole rig if he were asked to do a report. It is an unsafe rig !!!

My comments on the true condition of Bullfrog are in an attempt to counter the lies and bullshit that come from Bottman about her condition. I have done a full inspection of her with Bottman and have photos of everything I have claimed. She is sadly in very very poor condition . 

Talk of her sailing to Hobart is utter bullshit and I stand by my words - Bullfrog will not leave the little creek she lives in!

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There is ONLY ONE Stalock fitting on Bullfrog which is on the inner forestay and was new in 2016. Apart from that all the wires were new 2015 . and were made by Allyacht Spars Brisbane asper the originals supplied by me. Show us the photos, show us the photos prove your point with the photos. SHOW US THE PHOTOS. TAKE NOTE THERE IS ONLY ONE STAYLOCK FITING ON BULLFROG AND ITS ON THE INNER FORESTAY. HANGTIME THATS THE SECOND WIRE FROM THE FRONT , YOU KNOW, FROM THE POINTY END .Bottman

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2 hours ago, Bottman said:

There is ONLY ONE Stalock fitting on Bullfrog which is on the inner forestay and was new in 2016. Apart from that all the wires were new 2015 . and were made by Allyacht Spars Brisbane asper the originals supplied by me. Show us the photos, show us the photos prove your point with the photos. SHOW US THE PHOTOS. TAKE NOTE THERE IS ONLY ONE STAYLOCK FITING ON BULLFROG AND ITS ON THE INNER FORESTAY. HANGTIME THATS THE SECOND WIRE FROM THE FRONT , YOU KNOW, FROM THE POINTY END .Bottman

Well, this isn’t rocket surgery. Let’s see some recent photos of everything. It’s your chance to prove everyone wrong!  
 

I’ll be the first to apologize if you can prove everyone wrong. 

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No. Hangtime has made a claim about the condition of Bullfrogs rigging "and have photos of everything I have claimed". So put up or shut up Hangtime. Where are the photographs? Bottman

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Spoke to Allyacht Spars an hour ago and they repeated their statement that they did what they were paid to do which was to replicate the wires on Bullfrog except for the inner forestay. They didn't make one because I didn't supply the old one to them. The wires and turnbuckles supplied were all new. New bolts rivets . All the same size all the same steel, all the same swaging. I suspended the mast between two horses and measured the deflection so I could get the bend back to similar before taking the boat to Brisbane for mast tuning. Allyacht Spars were going to do this for me. Got beaten up before this took place.So wheres the photographs Hangtime? Bottman.

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38 minutes ago, Bottman said:

Spoke to Allyacht Spars an hour ago and they repeated their statement that they did what they were paid to do which was to replicate the wires on Bullfrog except for the inner forestay. They didn't make one because I didn't supply the old one to them. The wires and turnbuckles supplied were all new. New bolts rivets . All the same size all the same steel, all the same swaging. I suspended the mast between two horses and measured the deflection so I could get the bend back to similar before taking the boat to Brisbane for mast tuning. Allyacht Spars were going to do this for me. Got beaten up before this took place.So wheres the photographs Hangtime? Bottman.

So you had to ring Allyacht Spars to confirm exactly what I said? That they didn't rerig Bullfrog but simply supplied some wires ? They never touched the rig, Measured it, repainted it, repaired it??? Yet you made all these claims and carried on about defamation but now they have confirmed that no they never  went anywhere near it! Just replicated wires!! 

Thanks for admitting your previous lies.

The mast was assembled by an amateur who has never had any experience rerigging a high performance rig before and it shows!

 now that you have admitted to telling fibs how about fessing up to the rest of the Bottshit?

As for photos? They were part of my inspection when I arranged with you to inspect the boat for the purpose of a potential sale, There will be no positive outcome in displaying them here other than to devalue the boat even more and they do show the worst of Bullfrog, several people here on Anarchy have seen them and agreed that they will not have a positive influence.

So its time to stop waffling about going to watch the Hobart or even sail there, Bullfrog is not in any condition to leave the creek and you know this even if you wont admit it, 
I have no further interest in buying her as I don't have the 200k to repair her properly let alone pay whatever purchase price you are asking for.

Time to get off your keyboard Bott ? You are not going forward

 

 

 

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As I said put up or shut up. You had no trouble with defaming Bullfrog but now refuse to show pictures of the RIGGING. WHERES THE PHOTOS OF THE RIGGING HANGTIME? Can you read where I had arranged for Allyacht Spars to tune the stepped mast. I have never claimed I would do anything but have Allyacht Spars do the tuning. One would have to be stupid to do that on Bullfrogs mast.  What are you reading, its certainly nothing to do with what I had planned to do with Bullfrogs refit?. When I sailed to Caloundra I used the partially unfurled foresail. Didn't want to stress the rig before it was tuned and was very happy to be out sailing. No mainsail up at all and just enough jib to assist the motor, lazing along at six knots. She does 12knots at full throttle. Wheres the photos of this rig  which would come down if Bullfrog was taken out to Moreton Bay? Bottman

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Why were you heading north under an untested or unsurveyed rig when AYS is to the south? 

eyewitnesses' say that you were. under motor and not under sail, Widely available photos are suggesting you were motoring …. GOOGLE IT . Your sails were furled and stowed

The damage done from the grounding was by your own admission only found two to three weeks later when you pulled her out and found a large hole  in the bottom ! So for that period the end grain was absorbing the water and creating a rot situation..... Did you know that Western red Cedar has END GRAIN? … yep total shitfuckery for a boat of timber origins

Did you fall asleep at the wheel? You did say that you had a "windshift that forced you onto the beach" but anyone who knows that part of the coast knows that is Bottshit!

You were not heading to All Yacht Spars if you were heading to Caloundra?  Which is to the north......More Bottshit?

Bullfrog is not being defamed! You are being held to account about your dreamtime descriptions of her.

Time  will tell....

 

 

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My goodness, you are not reading very well and taking loosing very poorly ,one would think, is that so? Also you are shaping up to someone who has documented, and admitted brain damage, does that make you feel proud?Do you pull the wings off flies also? I am still willing to discuss the Bullfrog. First question WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS? SECOND QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS. THIRD QUESTION WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,ad infinitim ?                Who on earth said I was sailing to AYS? Had no intention of going there on that occasion, went to the Caloundra Bar with no intention of crossing it.  I was motoring with a third of the jib out. Tentative steady steps for a damaged brain wouldn't you think?  Or maybe you don't think.   Anyhoo where are the PHOTOS? Cut back into undamaged western red cedar for the repairs. Was absolutely stunned by the way the Kevlar held the water out despite the splintering of the wood, I knew Kevlar was good bit she did not tale one single drop of the POLLUTED CABOOLTURE RIVER. KEVLAR is simply amazing worth every cent of $40 a metre for repairs/ The damage was from the dinghy being run over and smashed repeatedly into Bribie Island sand. As soon as I realised I was in irons I furled the jib and left it furled. At no time was the main deployed. Motor would not run, anchor would not deploy. Merry Christmas, goodwill to all humanity Cheers Bottmam

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It was not a crack in the Kevlar Tony it was a proper hole! the end grain was exposed! it also let heaps of water in that destroyed the electrics...…  Kevlar was the outer skin but you fell asleep at the wheel and run her right up the beach and put a hole in her. You have already admitted this to me while I was looking at your boat so why deny it now... 

Stop Bottshitting and I will stop posting truths!....

There is a lot more

 

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HAAHAAHAAHAA Where are the PHOTOGRAPHS of the rigging?, WHERE ARE THE PHOTOGRAPHS,WHERE ARE THE PHOTOGRAPHS, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?  BRING IT ON  BULLFROG WAS BUILT WITH THE   INNER, INNER,  INNER skin of KEVLAR. You are now showing your ignorance of boatbuilding aren't you? Why do youthink the Kevlar is on the inside and not on the outside as you  state? You don't know do you ? Bottman Maybe get a job in the boatbuilding industry, wadda ya think?

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Is this the standard of the repair work carried out?  Who ever did this should be hung, drawn and quartered!!   Talk about butchery!!

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Hey MAD,I can hardly stop laughing. How do you deduce that is a repair ? Are you the worlds top, saddest ,most negative human being ever to have lived?You make the rest of us look positively optimistic.. Its a hole in a boat, no mention or indication of a repair. A repair at that point on Bullfrog would consist of some fibre glass, if you  can see a fibreglass repair then maybe you should talk to Geese about changing your pharmaceuticals,( via a registered doctor of course)        Bottman

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Never argue with an imbecile

He will drag you down with ignorance then beat you with experience

 

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Hangtime we all appreciate the warning about yourself , although you should be a bit kinder to yourself. WHERE ARE THE PHOYOGRAPHS OF THE RIG? You do realise of course you  have written that the boat was seen on Bribie Island by several people, and you do realise that was on Moreton Bay and you do realise the mast was standing despite you stating the rig would come down if it was taken into the bay ,so whats your story, and where are the photos of this rigging you say would come down if taken into Moreton Bay?Bottman

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C’mon man, we all want you to succeed. Just show us some recent pics of the rigging so we all look like idiots!  I actually want to be wrong!  

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10 hours ago, Bottman said:

Hey MAD,I can hardly stop laughing. How do you deduce that is a repair ? Are you the worlds top, saddest ,most negative human being ever to have lived?You make the rest of us look positively optimistic.. Its a hole in a boat, no mention or indication of a repair. A repair at that point on Bullfrog would consist of some fibre glass, if you  can see a fibreglass repair then maybe you should talk to Geese about changing your pharmaceuticals,( via a registered doctor of course)        Bottman

Somebody has hacked at that with a disc cutter, leaving great big sharp cuts all over it!!  
 

Any decent boatbuilder or person with a couple of decent years of experience will have cut that neatly, not fucking butchered it!  Was that your handy work? 

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Hangtime where are the photographs of this rig which would come down? These guys on Multihull anarchy want to see what you are talking about AND SO DO I. I cant show them faulty rigging on Bullfrog as there is none, what are you on about? Bottman

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5 hours ago, Bottman said:

Hangtime where are the photographs of this rig which would come down? These guys on Multihull anarchy want to see what you are talking about AND SO DO I. I cant show them faulty rigging on Bullfrog as there is none, what are you on about? Bottman

So show photos of the good rigging and then they wont have a leg to stand on?

 

Prove them wrong.

 

I'm hoping that most of them would love to to be proven wrong.

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I don't have to prove a thing . They have  to as I have no idea what they are talkin about . Bullfrog is sound as can be seen by hangtimes response or lack therof,one would think, wouldn't one? Are the critics, Jason in particular, going to cririsize the repairs o to tripleJack the way you criticised Bullfrog. Beware of Jason one friend stated?bottman

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Googled your quote Hangman and the funniest one appears to be"When you argue with a fool be sure he isn't similarly engaged". I acknowledge my mental disability , I was told I could never finish my boats off, never ride my bike, never do my own finances, never drive. Have gradually taught myself to do all these things over the last four years and yesterday rode my bike to Caboolture station and then from Ferny Grove station to Dayboro to pick up a car. I don't know if my legs are sore or not, cant feel them? Merry Christmas Dudes/Dudettes BOTTMAN

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Mug or whatever your name is don't ever look at FU..Irma, you will cause yourself a coronary. Now you wont believe this but there s a surveyor actually helping to do the repairs and they are using,    NOW WAIT FOR IT     ,grinders, chisels, and even a chainsaw on TRIPLEJACK.  You haven't got your message out there have you. There are a number of videos on that blog but you don't need to watch it do you with your superior knowledge and eagle eyed powers of observation? Do you work at a Doctorate level, or maybe a PROFESSORSHIP in the shipbuilding industry? I probably need new glasses because I misread your post , "where you said somebody has hacked at that with a disc cutter leaving, great big sharp cuts over it".I had in the back of my mind where you quote and use the word" cu.ts"".  I thought maybe he is not so ignorant as I thought but have realised my mistake and ask you, mainly because of your language, are you completely ignorant? Cheers Merry Christmas Peace on all men, even the completely ignorant, Love Bottman

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Gotta hand it to you Hungtime, You know a lot more about Bullfrog than I do, don't you? I have a slight memory problem as I cant recall seeing any electrics between the Kevlar and the hull. Must have been some micro-micro-micro circuitry. Do you have any pictures of this circuitry/wiring. If you can point out the area I am quite happy to cut into that area and see for myself, as I think everyone else would also, when she is next on the hard, wadda ya rekon?  Bottman

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I can’t tell if this thread is a dumpster fire or a train wreck.

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lets pick it up a bit......  Great big sea...

Turn this up...

 

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Are you looking for the Nobel peace prize !!!! 

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Braz'r whichever one it is you are now part of it. Good work, congratulations.Bottman Peace to you and use friens,allerem.

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Hangman you are not going to believe this but very, very old boats are being lifted from the seas ,allover the world made of timber and  after hundreds of years of being submerged are  then being restored and preserved for posterity. That word ,posterity , has nothing to do with your arse by the way, I can email you with a definition if you like?Bottman

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1 hour ago, Bottman said:

Hangman you are not going to believe this but very, very old boats are being lifted from the seas ,allover the world made of timber and  after hundreds of years of being submerged are  then being restored and preserved for posterity. That word ,posterity , has nothing to do with your arse by the way, I can email you with a definition if you like?Bottman

Not ones made out of balsa they ain’t! 

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27 minutes ago, Bottman said:

So hungtiny where are you?

Probably out of phone range,continuing to sail the boat  he rescued from rotting away. 

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Ooooooooooooooooooooootwenty six and fourty seven minutes AY?  And two replies already?  The questionnremains "If bullfrog is worthless thenwhydid Hangtime offer $50,000.00 for it ???????????????????????????? Where are the photographs????????Bottman

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On a lighter note and with the musicians I offer this story of the SARPEYE BALL ON ti ,Thursday iSLAND 2001. Commonly called the BLUNTEYE by the locals. The premier event, of the year, was attended by about half the population. My contribution  consisted of stating "Whitefellas can move their hands as good as blackfellas, huge outcry, whitefellas can move their feet as good as  blackfellas, louder outcry, whitefellas can move their arse  as good as blackfellas , by this stage the whole population were screaming , then" But " "we cant move all three together like a blackfella" huge backslapping etc and I was unable to leave for hours and I had early morning shift in the hospital.Cheers Bottman

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Hey hungwell, lookey dat weather forecast , for today, for Brisbane, as it appears at present, North easterly turning Easterly in the evening,15 to 20km/h almost identical to the day I parked up on Bribie. You can get the weather forecasters phone number from their website so you can tell them that their official weather forecasting is Bottshit cant you?       NORTH EASTERLY TURNING EASTERLY 15 TO 25KM/HR TURNING EASTERLY 15 TO 20KM/HR IN THE EVENING , THATS THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOR TODAY ISSUED AT 10.47 AM TODAY.MARINE FORECAST FOR SUNSHINE COAST IS EASTERLY 10 T0 I5 KM/H ISSUED AT 3.52PM TODAY.  THIS CONCLUDES THE BOTTSHIT WEATHER RELAYING SERVICE FOR THIS EVENING. CHEERS BOTTSHIT

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I recently brought a Ford Territory, two wheel drive model, with a blown gearbox. Paid $200 for a secondhand box from a guy who was putting the BARRA motor in a Patrol, a very clever and cheap move. So this box, with help from a friend, went into the Territory. I have no idea what the inside of the box looks like, I had help  to get that machine going. Same will happen to Bullfrog, get some help from someone who knows what they are doing. That's life. Have you ever wondered why there are so many people in a hospital theatre for some procedures. It can be because someone has special skills or it is a teaching hospital or its unclear what the actual cause of the problem is. Its called exploratory surgery, happens all day every day in out hospitals. The truly dangerous people are the ones who think they know it all. Cheers Bottman

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On 12/20/2019 at 10:53 PM, Raz'r said:

I can’t tell if this thread is a dumpster fire or a train wreck.

Both!! Almost but not quite unprecedented in terms of SA. Uniquely sad though because of the boat involved. I keep trying to look away but can’t.

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On 12/22/2019 at 5:45 PM, Bottman said:

The truly dangerous people are the ones who think they know it all.

They are mostly the ones that know very little. The truly knowledgeable ones  can see how much there is that is still to learn. 

Funny thing that.

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Just glued the windscreen in , AGAIN. 3mm square foam , Fixtec glue, screwed through the Perspex. Old mans boat style , uno with protection from the elements. Dodger as per Schionning with two 25x.5mm stainless 2205 supports. They also support the carbon fibre helm and the instrument cluster. Next project is a lightweight head. was going to use carbon fibre but there will be very little extra weight saving. Have a very swish ,uno female friendly, head to copy from as a mold.Once again welcome Wess that's two. Thanks Bottman

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Who really gives a fuck about gluing in the windscreen.  Come on Bottman, step back and just give us info about about significent stuff.

 

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Feb 6, 2020. First catch up on the Bullfrogs mast thread for many moons. Some sad, & many funny moments. Having sailed and raced on her over many years with Ian & Cathy, & Rod & Lynn, I will always have a great deal of respect for her. Almost bought her from Geoff & Lorraine but missed out by a week! She was sold for $ 155,000 back then. Worth it at the time. Then came 2 more owners, Some years of little use & another inspection in Pittwater. I offered the broker $50,000 as she needed a complete re fit paint rig and sails. The owner then thought it was worth $120,000. No deal luckily. I did call in a couple of times to the creek and checked her out with Tony Bott who had bought her for somewhat north of my offer and hoped to see her eventually, after a lot of work, back sailing again. Tony, in my opinion Hunghigh, low, tiny's offer is / was fair in the current market! I actually helped Ian & Cath to fit that new, then!, rig in Pittwater and then sailed down to Sydney, So long ago now that I would not trust it at all offshore. My 2 cents. Only have Bullfrogs best interests in mind. Cheers all.

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So Trimariner how have you come up with your opinion. Have you examined the hull have you examined the rigging\?Are you qualified to give an opinion apart from the same type of opinions many have given on Bullfrog,ie not an educated opinion at all.? Are you part of what some people see as an attempt to get me to part with bBullfrog at a giveaway price? Its not going to happen Cheers Bottman. 

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Just clocked up 20,000 views for Bullfrogs Mast. I am a little pleased as at the turn of the century I had very little regard for computers until I went to Torres Straits Hospital and was informed there were no ward clerks and I had to do all my own paperwork, pathology, reports,searches,etc. From Luddite to Learner in about ten minutes, thanks to everyone in TI hospital. You are all invited for a sail when I am up your way. Bottman

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Trimariner I I took possession of Bullfrog andreplaced what I could see was wrong. That is well documented in this post. I then opened all the hidden compartments which hadn't seen the light ofday for years. The collision bulkhead now has an inspection hatch, not quick or easy to enter, so the forward hidden compartment can be inspected.The biggest problem to safety was the mast. The repairs on that were all done before I was injured and were done with the help of Allyacht Spars. Now   NOW  NOW if someone took Bullfrog out to sea and did not know the history of that mast and pushed her too hard then the result may be catastrophic , correct? Maybe the same result as XL2 s last sail , correct? Sailing safely is all about sailing safely in my opinion. How many boats lose their masts in a year. Brand new carbon fibre ones at that? Sailing safely is all about sailing safely. Have read some of the history of the Huia. She was a topsail schooner and holds the record of five days for sailing from New Zealand to Australia , About ten years before she went out of service her mastswere shortened as the operators considered she was becoming dangerous. Canvas carried and mast height have always been a consideration for safe sailing have they not. Happy sailing Bottman

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Tony Bott, That alloy mast has to be 30+ years old! I helped step it. Good luck. I tried to inject a little reality, that's all. Cheers.

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So whats the life expectancy of a mast? Whats the difference between the life of a mast with a high aspect sail and a more gentle pin head? What difference does racing have on the life of a sail? On the life of the mast?  Bullfrog has a few features which were either" as built" or added later which makes her safer than she  was when built.  One which I still use is the running backstays.She has a traveller and doesn't need the running  backstays unless using the spinnaker. I replaced the 30kg of sscable with dyneema. 12mm, 13,000 kg breaking strain and as you probably know it floats on water it is so light.  Backstays are 316 as are the forestays .Bullfrogs mast has a feature not seen on many boats. The strength of her mast is far beyond what most trimarans have. There is a speed penalty for this added weight/air resistance , but it adds incredible safety. Its the triangulation achieved through use of spreaders and jumpers which are in addition to the mast stays. All the cables were replaced when I did the mast up. The integrity of Bullfrogs mast remains much the same as when she was launched because the forces are all converted to mast compression which is maintained via the triangulation. bending, twisting, and other forces are reduced considerably by the triangulation. The biggest risk to the safety of a boat lies between the ears of the skipper.Cheers Bottman

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Gotta ask .

Is the mast anodised or painted ?

Might answer some questions about longevity

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Repainted the mast with two pack when I brought her As instructed by Wattyl I sandblasted her with crushed glass 60/30 if my memory is correct. then sprayed with Wattyl PR250 , then a Wattyl two pack modified something or other. nil signs of blistering, bubbles, blemishes, cracking or crazing .Aabout onehundred and fourty monel rivets and they still look like new. Someone recently said a carbon fibre stick would weigh almost the same , the only advantage is it would be a lot stiffer. On this boat with the stays as they are the onlyndifference could be in my bank balance. Cheers Bottman

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Yes, just let this slip away into the lost threads.

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Just refreshing my memory on ally v cf masts. The biggy is that lightning strike will generally be more obvious on the ally mast. With a cf mast the electronics will also be fried but the mast will have to be unstepped and tested for delamination of the carbon layers. Not an easy ,cheap job.Means a new mast? If youre not one of the top ten percent of racers there may be very little advantage in cf.Cheers Bottman

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Twenty eight $ billion is one estimate of the total cost of the 737 crashes to date. That's a fair bit of cash for an aircraft manufacturer to recoup. My initial thoughts on part of the reasons for these aircraft accidents was a lack of non computer instruments. A bubble floating in a tube of alcohol is the time honoured method of getting something level. As a visual check on an aircraft orientation it is a cheap and easy way of establishing this, is it not? It would appear, from one recent report on one of the crashes, that the plane climbed and fell six times before crashing. Did the pilots have any idea about the orientation of their plane, or were they too interested in looking at erroneous instruments?       These problems with these planes may have a negative impact on flying. Its relevant as cheap flying is a very necessary part of sailing boats, Cheers Bottman.

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No, no, no Bott,  we are letting this thread die quietly.

Start a new 737 thread in general anarchy.

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