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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Its amazing what photoshop can do to the size of your muscles :)

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With the weight restrictions - has JS pumped himself up and out of a job?

 

Why have a gorilla holding the wheel when you can have one on a grinder

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he's so heavy that the moth can't even fly...

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There you go. Here is how it is done :rolleyes:

 

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Anyone have the link to the video of JS working out at the OTUSA base weight room? He did many reps of lifting a approx. 150lb dumb bell, dropping it and then jumping onto a 3.5' cube.

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Yup he really got into the gym stuff for AC34. He was doing some standard crossfit type tests in that video IIRC. A driven bloke.

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JS is a real threat on the long distance SUP events these days. Laird Hamilton has been his mentor in that quest and Laird is probably the fittest most capable all round waterman there is. His wife could break most of us in half. She was a pro beach volleyball/ model before marraige and their kids should be scary good looking and fit too.

 

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Total crew weight is 700 kgs (1542 lbs)


That makes it 87.5 kgs each (193)


JS looks to be about 120kgs (265 lbs) putting him up in the grinder type weights. Considering he will be the only one on the boat who does not grind, he does not need to be that weight. They will need a set of grinders sitting at about 120 kgs then a couple of guys (tactician, foils) at about 95 kgs (as they will grind as well for some parts).


Have a look at jockeys, F1 drivers, Moto GP riders, Tour de France riders, ...... they are all light (but high on power to weight)


You could make a case for a fatty if they were hanging out on the rail but not on AC62's. Having a heavy skipper would be the same as having a 54 year old on board. There is no need for it. JS is going to have to go on a weight saving programme and yet he appears to has done the opposite.


If there is the rumoured tension between JS and others this may provide an option for the head of the sailing team to look at the crew roles in a different way. JS may find himself out of a role on the "a team"



The total weight of crew, dressed in light shorts only, shall not be greater than 700 kg.

Compliance with this Rule 17.2 will be determined by the Measurement Committee, and may

not be protested by Competitors. Crewmembers shall be weighed prior to competing in a race,

as specified by the Measurement Committee. The Measurement Committee will use that

recorded weight for any verification of compliance until the next specified crew weighing date.

In the event that a crewmember is re-weighed at any time, a new weight will be recorded and

will be used for any subsequent verification of compliance

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Never thought SF Bay very friendly for a moth - wet suit necessary, and dry suit preferable. But no suit? That is some serious incentive to keep on the foil.

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Spithill at 265 lbs?

I don't think so. I've been in his presence a number of times and he doesn't have a 105 lbs on me.

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Total crew weight is 700 kgs (1542 lbs)

 

That makes it 87.5 kgs each (193)

 

JS looks to be about 120kgs (265 lbs) putting him up in the grinder type weights. Considering he will be the only one on the boat who does not grind, he does not need to be that weight. They will need a set of grinders sitting at about 120 kgs then a couple of guys (tactician, foils) at about 95 kgs (as they will grind as well for some parts).

 

Have a look at jockeys, F1 drivers, Moto GP riders, Tour de France riders, ...... they are all light (but high on power to weight)

 

You could make a case for a fatty if they were hanging out on the rail but not on AC62's. Having a heavy skipper would be the same as having a 54 year old on board. There is no need for it. JS is going to have to go on a weight saving programme and yet he appears to has done the opposite.

 

If there is the rumoured tension between JS and others this may provide an option for the head of the sailing team to look at the crew roles in a different way. JS may find himself out of a role on the "a team"

 

 

The total weight of crew, dressed in light shorts only, shall not be greater than 700 kg.

Compliance with this Rule 17.2 will be determined by the Measurement Committee, and may

not be protested by Competitors. Crewmembers shall be weighed prior to competing in a race,

as specified by the Measurement Committee. The Measurement Committee will use that

recorded weight for any verification of compliance until the next specified crew weighing date.

In the event that a crewmember is re-weighed at any time, a new weight will be recorded and

will be used for any subsequent verification of compliance

Just so you can see what 265 actually looks like .

 

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/members-photos/10908d1171576216-currently-bulking-265-lbs-dsc00623.jpg

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Just so you can see what 108kg looks like

 

 

 

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better?

 

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and since this is a sailing forum

 

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Please Uncle Larry buy me a new toy!

Is that Australia?

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Please Uncle Larry buy me a new toy!

Is that Australia?

Just a very small part of it.

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another one

 

 

All lined up and ready to fly! "Foiling Camp" continues this week for ORACLE TEAM USA in Australia.

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Any guesses who said this?

 

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I've only got four toes on my right foot. I was just born that way. I have to wear different-sized shoes because my right foot is about three sizes smaller. When I was a kid, my right leg was a little bit smaller, so I had to do this big operation. I remember the doctor saying to my mom, "Just so you know, he's probably not going to be any good at sport." I don't know, maybe my mom just had an awesome time in the '60s.

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Please Uncle Larry buy me a new toy!

Is that Australia?

Wangi Sailing club on Lake Macquarie

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Seems JS is very unpopular within the team!

 

 

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Seems JS is very unpopular within the team!

 

 

 

that really is a good piece. congrats to the humor of those guys - and to the overall concept.

 

"He really didn't think it through"

 

3 thumbs up, cool piece

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Very funny.

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Foiling camp finale: "Everyone has a smile on their face"

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Foiling camp finale: "Everyone has a smile on their face"

Moth is 1st production foiler? Rave, trifoiler....

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Dear RC

 

Please get ur act together as we on SA have nothing to gossip about. For you there is also a cost of in-activity

 

The Ice bucket challenge!!

 

James Spithill
6 hrs ·
Thank you Shaq Shannon Falcone for nominating me to the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge…. Now my turn: Russell Coutts and Ben Ainslie Fan Page - You are up - 24hrs to get it done.

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From RC:

 

 

In response to Beach and Jimmy's Ice Bucket Challenge I nominate Brad Butterworth and Grant Dalton. 24 hours guys!

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/russellcouttssailor?fref=nf

Pathetic!

It raises money for the ALS charity, you moron.

 

RC's silly comments don't raise a dime for anyone fucktard.

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

it helps cooling down people, might be a suggestion for you too .... just sayin' B)

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Nice enough piece here by JS, describing his M2O experience

https://m.facebook.com/JimmySpithill/posts/638481499583828

 

A nice piece, which proves that people who surf mega waves and sail mega boats can actually have an amazing time at 5 to 6 knots.

 

Sorta underlines how silly it is to diss slow-moving watercraft, doesn't it. Of course, it's mainly the armchair experts he disses who are so one-eyed; guys like JS seem to appreciate slow craft as well as fast stuff.

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Would someone from Oracle Team USA please nominate Larry for the ice bucket challenge. No interest in seeing Larry pour a bucket of water over his head, but Larry could nominate Donald Trump. Now that would be good!

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Kyle Langford talks about the Oracle America's Cup program

 

Kyle Langford, the wing trimmer on Oracle Team USA when it won the America's Cup in 2013, is mainsail trimmer on Oman Air at the Extreme Series in Cardiff. In an exclusive interview with mysailing, he talked about the Extreme 40s and Oracle's progress towards defending the Cup in 2017.

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/kyle-langford-talks-about-the-oracle-america-s-cup-program

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

It has raised over 23 million for ALS since it started a month or so ago. Nothing fucktardy about that.

 

WetHog

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

It has raised over 23 million for ALS since it started a month or so ago. Nothing fucktardy about that.

WetHog

+1

 

It's not that people couldn't have donated without a viral social media phenomenon, it's that we wouldn't have. It raises awareness.

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

It has raised over 23 million for ALS since it started a month or so ago. Nothing fucktardy about that.

 

WetHog

Agreed

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The ice bucket challenge has got to be the most fucktardy thing out. the sort of thing little school girls get excited over. If you want to give money to charity just give the money, you don't need to waste your time chucking icy water on your head.

It has raised over 23 million for ALS since it started a month or so ago. Nothing fucktardy about that.

 

WetHog

 

except for the waste of water, imho.

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Kyle Langford talks about the Oracle America's Cup program

 

Kyle Langford, the wing trimmer on Oracle Team USA when it won the America's Cup in 2013, is mainsail trimmer on Oman Air at the Extreme Series in Cardiff. In an exclusive interview with mysailing, he talked about the Extreme 40s and Oracle's progress towards defending the Cup in 2017.

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/kyle-langford-talks-about-the-oracle-america-s-cup-program

a fun bit from there:

 

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We've all bought Moths and we'll do another foiling camp in San Francisco in November with the aim of all competing at the Moth Worlds in February, Kyle said. Apart from Tom (Slingsby) we're all pretty useless, so we've got a bit of work to do.

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Kyle Langford talks about the Oracle America's Cup program

24 Aug 2014



Kyle Langford, the wing trimmer on Oracle Team USA when it won the America's Cup in 2013, is mainsail trimmer on Oman Air at the Extreme Series in Cardiff. In an exclusive interview with mysailing, he talked about the Extreme 40s and Oracle's progress towards defending the Cup in 2017.


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Kyle Langford talks about the Oracle America's Cup program

 

Kyle Langford, the wing trimmer on Oracle Team USA when it won the America's Cup in 2013, is mainsail trimmer on Oman Air at the Extreme Series in Cardiff. In an exclusive interview with mysailing, he talked about the Extreme 40s and Oracle's progress towards defending the Cup in 2017.

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/kyle-langford-talks-about-the-oracle-america-s-cup-program

a fun bit from there:

 

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We've all bought Moths and we'll do another foiling camp in San Francisco in November with the aim of all competing at the Moth Worlds in February, Kyle said. Apart from Tom (Slingsby) we're all pretty useless, so we've got a bit of work to do.

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If they want to do the worlds in February they're completely useless! there is no worlds in February :D

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Fwiw they bought their own Moths.

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Great memory for a slow day.

Day 10, race 13.

I think this was the day Grumpy knew it was dusted.

 

 

 

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The day we realized how slow was OR in light conditions but how twisting the initial 5-30 kts prot would make them win.

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The day we realized how slow was OR in light conditions but how twisting the initial 5-30 kts prot would make them win.

Agreed, it was a joy-joy day.

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Superb choice of Race to replay. Everything about it is terrific.

 

I do sometimes question myself over if the strong wish to race AC35 in SF is to try re-live the AC34 Match. And admit that it must play a big part, but it's just so hard to imagine another venue that could be as exciting, regardless the outcome.

 

R13 and its re-run is an absolutely brilliant sailing segment, I think it surpasses even R18 and R19 in most respects.

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Superb choice of Race to replay. Everything about it is terrific.

 

 

R13 I think it surpasses even R18 and R19 in most respects.

^^^ Aldo would have said the best was R1 you would have agreed, Aldo would have said it was hilarious you would have laughed.

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Superb choice of Race to replay. Everything about it is terrific.

 

 

R13 I think it surpasses even R18 and R19 in most respects.

^^^ Aldo would have said the best was R1 you would have agreed, Aldo would have said it was hilarious you would have laughed.

Bummer when the team you want to lose wins, eh ?

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Lots of movement at the SF base of OR.

 

Anyone on the ground know whats up?

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Whatever - I assume wiretapping is already being installed under tables at The Brown, by multiple parties :)

 

And Basiliscus ought to be pleased

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Aren't you ecstatic about OR base moving back to Anacortes, SR?

 

http://www.sail-world.com/Europe/Oracle-Team-USA-prepares-for-racing/126178

The details are a little sketchy, "readying for the transition from San Francisco to the new home on the Puget Sound in Washington" and may involve just a warehouse/boathouse but heck yes, it's potentially very good news for those of us nearby.

 

Thanks for the link.

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Ps: I saw a brief mention of Tugboat Turner in an Anacortes YC newsletter earlier this summer that suggested he's been spending some time there - possibly collaborating the idea it would involve Anacortes.

 

And yes, Basiliscus could probably sail from home to work if a design office were to open up.

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Maybe it is just getting out of SF, maybe building in the US this time, and then moving to whichever venue is chosen. The terms and relations might be better in Anacortes. Who knows, other than the ones making the decisions?

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** Updated Link** We hope you're having a great Labor Day. Recently we heard from the manufacturer that the AC72 desk models are back in stock. So now you can own a piece of history with a 17” model of the famous AC72 that ORACLE TEAM USA raced to victory in the greatest comeback in America’s Cup history. Not many left, but this finely detailed model is worth every penny. Get it here http://www.amazon.com/catamaran-Oracle-model-protective-plexiglas/dp/B00H22HJ1M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1409584600&sr=8-4&keywords=oracle+team+usa

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Maybe it is just getting out of SF, maybe building in the US this time, and then moving to whichever venue is chosen. The terms and relations might be better in Anacortes. Who knows, other than the ones making the decisions?

Being close to mold-builder Janicki could be good for in-country-built hulls (and maybe more) construction; and there are apparently already other lease plans by the Port in place for P80, and the office space portion was already vacated some time back by the Design Team, who are now just part-time, and working virtually, until probably mid next year.

 

TE posted a nice Anacortes pic at his FB page today, likely confirming that at least something is afoot for up here.

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** Updated Link** We hope you're having a great Labor Day. Recently we heard from the manufacturer that the AC72 desk models are back in stock. So now you can own a piece of history with a 17 model of the famous AC72 that ORACLE TEAM USA raced to victory in the greatest comeback in Americas Cup history. Not many left, but this finely detailed model is worth every penny. Get it here http://www.amazon.com/catamaran-Oracle-model-protective-plexiglas/dp/B00H22HJ1M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1409584600&sr=8-4&keywords=oracle+team+usa

if the boards are in front of the beam - it's B1.

 

A model of B1 has the advantage of multiple mounting positions - like auguring in beneath a tiny scale model of the GG Bridge!

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I've heard from at least one disgruntled OR designer that there are major concerns they are falling even farther behind in pie warmer technology.

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Aren't you ecstatic about OR base moving back to Anacortes, SR?

 

http://www.sail-world.com/Europe/Oracle-Team-USA-prepares-for-racing/126178

The details are a little sketchy, but as you all well know that never stopped me from spinning my bs strawboy posts

 

thanks XLOT good scoop

 

 

now what if ortusa acea was going to have circus # 2 / VENUE up there in WASH-?

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They should be working on Jamaican patty warmers.

Those things are REAL hot.

Fast as well. I have had a few go straight through me … :)

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I've heard from at least one disgruntled OR designer that there are major concerns they are falling even farther behind in pie warmer technology.

 

No worries - just heard they've signed Martha Stewart to solve the problem.

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Just spoke with someone who is in direct talks with OR and they confirm that OR is coming back to Anacortes with the intention of building their boats. Another source says Tug will be at Anacortes Yacht Club tonight. Not sure why but someone up that way should stop in for a chat at the bar.

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Sweet! Can't make it but thanks for the confirmation.

 

(from a teeny-screen) perhaps you should PM/alert Mo Fuzz and/or White Lightning to the good news?

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Sweet! Can't make it but thanks for the confirmation.

 

(from a teeny-screen) perhaps you should PM/alert Mo Fuzz and/or White Lightning to the good news?

 

Maybe someone can get nav's West Coast Mafia distribution list and send out a broadcast message.

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Just spoke with someone who is in direct talks with OR and they confirm that OR is coming back to Anacortes with the intention of building their boats. Another source says Tug will be at Anacortes Yacht Club tonight. Not sure why but someone up that way should stop in for a chat at the bar.

I checked the AYC website... tonight is 80s Night so if your going to chat with Tug you better wear your best disco outfit.

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Aren't you ecstatic about OR base moving back to Anacortes, SR?

 

http://www.sail-world.com/Europe/Oracle-Team-USA-prepares-for-racing/126178

The details are a little sketchy, "readying for the transition from San Francisco to the new home on the Puget Sound in Washington" and may involve just a warehouse/boathouse but heck yes, it's potentially very good news for those of us nearby.

 

Thanks for the link.

Ugh...Its not the Puget Sound...and even if it was, Anacortes ain't on it. It is, however, on the Salish Sea.

 

However, it will be great to have them back up there.

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Sweet! Can't make it but thanks for the confirmation.

(from a teeny-screen) perhaps you should PM/alert Mo Fuzz and/or White Lightning to the good news?

Maybe someone can get nav's West Coast Mafia distribution list and send out a broadcast message.

You and spinbot are the wc maf......

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The official FB page now said that Grant Simmer is OTUSA'S CEO, does that mean RC is running ACEA?

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http://www.curriki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Coll_jpinto/GrantSimmerQandA?bc=;Coll_jpinto.PhysicsofSailing

 

old news http://oracle-team-usa.americascup.com/en/news/67_ORACLE-TEAM-USA-powered-by-homegrown-design-talent.html

 

good question tho-

 

who is running/ ruining acea ?

 

and who is running ortusa cheaters aka west coast mafia / ggyc cover up / bag boys / bohica - circus 2 ?

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Maybe it is just getting out of SF, maybe building in the US this time, and then moving to whichever venue is chosen. The terms and relations might be better in Anacortes. Who knows, other than the ones making the decisions?

 

Or, it could just be free rent, and free hotel rooms. That seems to be what TPTB are most concerned with nowadays. LOL.

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