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wharf_rat

Wanted: Laser tiller/ hiking stick

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Pardon the interruption -- my son capsized his Laser and lost his tiller and hiking stick into the drink and I was wondering if anyone had an old beater wooden set that we could buy. E.g., perhaps you've replaced your OE tiller with a modern carbon fiber setup.

 

I don't think we need to place an order for a state-of-the-art APS rig until he has a lot more water under the keel.

 

Happy to pay in cash, cases of beer, wampum beads or any other form of currency. We are located in central NJ. Many thanks, /david

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Call your local ski shop and ask if they have broken poles. Usually free as they don't send warranty poles back to manufacturer.

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Ski poles don't make good tillers.........

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Ski poles don't make good tillers.........

They make great laser tillers - have a free carbon fiber one for 5 years.

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get hardwood that fits in rudder head, or aluminum, or used hockey stick. Buy a coupler for tiller extension. Use 1/2 inch PVC pipe for tiller extension. wrap PVC with non skid. Done.

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You can get an ash tiller and a 48" aluminum extension on sale now from Intensity Sails for $75.

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Yes, other have it. Any piece of wood (hockey stick) works for tiller and extension can be PVC ot ski pole as has been mentioned. Will add that old golf club works as well. Been there/done that.

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If you have the time and inclination to source the materials, head to the chandlery to pick up the u joint that will fit the golf club/ski pole/PVC tube/aluminum tube as well as the little cleat for the rudder hold down, plane the hockey stick or whatever to fit the rudder head, varnish or epoxy the bare wood so it won't swell up in the rudder head, it is pretty simple project. Or spend the $75...

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You can use a piece of line as the u joint. Arrange it as a loop that comes out of end of the ski pole. Run the loop through the hole in the tiller, and then loop over the free end. To remove the slack, Drill a sideways hole about 3 inches up the extension. Pull the 2 free ends of the line out there. Remove all slack with the hiking stick oriented as if nailed into the hole in the tiller. Wrap a few turns and tie together. When you rotate the extension down to where you would use it the steer the boat, the wall thickness of the extension removes any remaining slack.

 

If the ski pole is broken, you can wrap it with athletic tape and saturate it with epoxy.

 

It all depends on if you want your son to grow up to be a doctor.

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...the biggest question on my mind is whether this thread will meet or beat the rudder-bolt thread :mellow::o

 

 

.....I'll bet the OP got his son back on the water -long- ago!! :lol:

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Retainer pin out, rudder tie down undone, hold on to the tiller extension for too long as you dump over...At least that was my experience when my dad had to buy me a new one. But that was pre-aluminum tiller so it didn't cost him much.

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How do you lose the tiller and tiller extension but not the rudder? <_<

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...had one slip off the back of the i550 while launching 2 regattas ago.....'stuff' happens :mellow:

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Retainer pin out, rudder tie down undone, hold on to the tiller extension for too long as you dump over...At least that was my experience when my dad had to buy me a new one. But that was pre-aluminum tiller so it didn't cost him much.

fair enough.

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Retainer pin out, rudder tie down undone, hold on to the tiller extension for too long as you dump over...At least that was my experience when my dad had to buy me a new one. But that was pre-aluminum tiller so it didn't cost him much.

fair enough.

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...ahh yes,,,back in the -old- days when we used hockey sticks and w.o.o.d. for boatparts :o

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What's this "w.o.o.d." you speak of, Couch? Do you mine for it? Create it from hydrocarbons?

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What's this "w.o.o.d." you speak of, Couch? Do you mine for it? Create it from hydrocarbons?

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--you could find it in these big things everywhere..it literally grew out of the ground ..................people would build whole boats out of the stuff.

 

.......iirc it was called 'teres' :mellow:

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Close......I believe they were called "trees". I remember my great grand-pappy talk of them. Supposedly he used to climb them in his youth. I'm not sure if I believe that. Seems kinda sketchy.

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What's this "w.o.o.d." you speak of, Couch? Do you mine for it? Create it from hydrocarbons?

Wood is so 2013. These days its all about organic composite panels.

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Broad reaching in big breeze/waves and got sucked out of the cockpit once. Foot caught the tiller and broke it in two, with the extension and forward half quickly sinking to the bottom.

 

Ah the memories...

 

HW

 

 

 

Retainer pin out, rudder tie down undone, hold on to the tiller extension for too long as you dump over...At least that was my experience when my dad had to buy me a new one. But that was pre-aluminum tiller so it didn't cost him much.

fair enough.

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...ahh yes,,,back in the -old- days when we used hockey sticks and w.o.o.d. for boatparts :o

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wait...like the things in old fairy tales?

 

Roteiro-O-Lorax-Divulga.jpg

 

Hockey stick/old ski pole option would work fine, may even be an upgrade of sorts.

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