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Dan33

A really bad day...

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This is what happens when stupidity and horsepower converge at 10pm.....and in case you think this is a high tide /low tide situation, we have no tides on our lake.

 

This happened about 5 miles from our club. No wonder I hate coming across the bay in the dark.

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There are few minor navigational errors on inland waterways at high speed..."But don't worry about that", I can hear the skipper, "We're headed for open water, or failing that - darkness."

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I have no idea how it got up there, (and it really is UP) without doing cartwheels. That alone likely saved a life or two....or more.

 

I'll be passing that small group of islands tomorrow...it'll be interesting to see if the new decoration has been removed.

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Looks like he *almost* made it over the hill, James Bond style.

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I'm surprised that we don't see this stuff more often. During the summer, the 1000 Islands region is over run by thousands of <sarcasm on> perfectly qualified, occasional boaters <sarcasm off> aka the Quebec navy. I saw one, a few weeks ago, in a 40'+ powerboat tie on to a channel marker, in a busy channel, and proceed to go swimming .

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That is scary. Earlier this summer in the mouth of the Sheepscot I was sailing in and out came about a 35 foot offshore power cat at full chat as Dylan would say. Clearly a boat past its prime that was slipping down the ownership ranks but still going like hell with the obligatory two guys in front and the three babes in back (wearing flannel- it was a cool Maine evening). When they hit the ocean swells the boat began to launch a little and it was clear the driver was clueless about boat handling something like this. I just about beached myself trying to stay far away.

 

Made me think of seeing some tired high performance Camaro with bald tires on the highway weaving in and out. Just scary.

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I can't get over how unscathed the boat is. I would have expected a lot more scathing.

 

I can picture,,,,,"Ok hon. Let's leave it here for the night."

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This guy was charged under the shipping act for failing to be at the helm at all times, in Vancouver harbour limits.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Lessons+learned+from+Second+Narrows+boating+accident/10119163/story.html

That has got to be one of the worst pieces of reporting ever. The only source for the entire article is some guy who was standing on the dock when they brought the crunched boat in.

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It should be left there as a warning to the other powerboats... kinda like putting a severed head on a pike at your front gate.

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It should be left there as a warning to the other powerboats... kinda like putting a severed head on a pike at your front gate.

 

Chain the driver to it for 30 days...

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This guy was charged under the shipping act for failing to be at the helm at all times, in Vancouver harbour limits.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Lessons+learned+from+Second+Narrows+boating+accident/10119163/story.html

That has got to be one of the worst pieces of reporting ever. The only source for the entire article is some guy who was standing on the dock when they brought the crunched boat in.

No other paper in town and they do not share news stories with CP. Yes they have manipulative articles and editing. Might be a Transport Canada report out by now, but it didn't come up in my search.

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I'm surprised and disappointed at the lack of more crass and tassteless comments on an SA forum given the vessel name..

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Look on the bright side. Now it will be easier to see the point at night.

 

"Navigation? On the lake? I don't see the point."

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Based on the two center photos the people on board were very lucky, they hit a natural ramp at the waters edge A few yards to port and the boat would have struck a stone wall. God does really protect the fools.

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Local paper report...

 

 

Shannon Unger was enjoying a bonfire Sunday night with a couple of friends at her Lake Nipissing home when she heard a boat speeding across the lake.

Hearing the sounds of motors zipping by is part of life when you live on the lake.

But this was a little different.

“It was dark, around 9 p.m., and we heard this boat pass by our shore and my husband commented that it seemed pretty close to one of the islands out front,” Unger told The Nugget Tuesday.

“Less than 30 seconds after he commented we heard a massive noise. Scraping and smashing,” she said.

“We all stopped. We looked at each other and said 'holy crap. Something awful has happened.'”

Unger said at that point her husband and family friend jumped on the wave runner in the dark to try and find the boat in the water and assist those on board should they need help.

“We couldn't find anything,” she said. “But it didn't occur to us or to anyone to look up at the islands. Who would have thought it was up on an island.”

Unger said the next day they went back out and saw the boat teetering on an island on Lake Nipissing just off the shores around Rocky Shore Drive on the south shore.

As of Tuesday afternoon the boat was still up on the rocks.

The boat is white and green in colour and it's name according to an inscription on the back is called Lady Di.

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I'm surprised and disappointed at the lack of more crass and tassteless comments on an SA forum given the vessel name..

Like: 'that Lady Di was a real rock star!' ?

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According to the report he lost the prop on rocks, I reckon if he hadn't been so unlucky he'd have made it across, what makes you think it was a navigation error rather than a calculated short cut?

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According to the report he lost the prop on rocks, I reckon if he hadn't been so unlucky he'd have made it across, what makes you think it was a navigation error rather than a calculated short cut?

Exactly. And that's why your mother always told you short cuts make long delays.

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According to the report he lost the prop on rocks, I reckon if he hadn't been so unlucky he'd have made it across, what makes you think it was a navigation error rather than a calculated short cut?

Exactly. And that's why your mother always told you short cuts make long delays.

 

Only if you don't make it, it's just like a Malcolm In The Middle episode, it's ok if it works.

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I don't see why you guys are making such a big deal about this, should buff right out! :lol:

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According to the report he lost the prop on rocks, I reckon if he hadn't been so unlucky he'd have made it across, what makes you think it was a navigation error rather than a calculated short cut?

Yep, the prop's always at the peak of efficiency when operating out of the water and dragging across a rock.

 

I hope the bloke's been sterilised so his kids don't do the same in 20 years time.

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Apparently there were no injuries!!

They must have "made landfall" on the small area where there is not a sheer rock face, and likely on the crest of a wave. It was very rough water that night.

 

By all accounts they are nice people not prone to this kind of behavior. There has to be more to this story.

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"I fucketh offeth not! - Bob Perry"

 

Don't recall ever saying that but I would. I like it.

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"We all stopped. We looked at each other and said 'holy crap. Something awful has happened.'”

 

No shit.

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I'm sailing right by that rock today...I may have a few more pics when I return, or a damaged keel.

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According to the report he lost the prop on rocks, I reckon if he hadn't been so unlucky he'd have made it across, what makes you think it was a navigation error rather than a calculated short cut?

I think, if you hit something, it's by definition, a navigational error.

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"I fucketh offeth not! - Bob Perry"

 

Don't recall ever saying that but I would. I like it.

I believe you were responding to our "friend" Armido in some other thread

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"The snag is nailing down who was driving"?

 

That's easy - who's the stupidest of the people who were onboard?

 

Put them under oath and ask - once the truth comes out, give any liars a few months in jail for perjury.

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John Molson may have been at the helm.

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I'm not sure if it's been moved or not...but it would be a lot easier once the lake freezes. Drive over with a loader, wrap a chain on it and drag it to the nearest marina (about 2 nm). Then run over it with the same loader and fill a dumpster.

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The last sentence in the article, "The boat has since been removed."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I don't think Gatekeeper's real name is "surely", and it's not spelled like that.

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"The snag is nailing down who was driving"?

 

That's easy - who's the stupidest of the people who were onboard?

 

Put them under oath and ask - once the truth comes out, give any liars a few months in jail for perjury.

 

I thought the captain was responsible no matter who was driving. I'm surprised not to have seen the words "alcohol was involved."

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I'm surprised and disappointed at the lack of more crass and tassteless comments on an SA forum given the vessel name..

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...at least it's not one of the many boats called ''just the tip'' :mellow:

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"The snag is nailing down who was driving"?

 

That's easy - who's the stupidest of the people who were onboard?

 

Put them under oath and ask - once the truth comes out, give any liars a few months in jail for perjury.

I thought the captain was responsible no matter who was driving. I'm surprised not to have seen the words "alcohol was involved."

 

 

Could have been a different kind of licker.

Thats what happened here a few years ago when a launch driver was distracted or forgot about a small island in the harbour here called Rangitoto.

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that would be the easiest course of action...

I'm not sure if it's been moved or not...but it would be a lot easier once the lake freezes. Drive over with a loader, wrap a chain on it and drag it to the nearest marina (about 2 nm). Then run over it with the same loader and fill a dumpster.

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har, har, har :)

The last sentence in the article, "The boat has since been removed."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I don't think Gatekeeper's real name is "surely", and it's not spelled like that.

 

 

Don't call me "surely."

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The last sentence in the article, "The boat has since been removed."

 

 

That was changed from when I originally viewed it...so now we know.

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