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VOR 2017-18

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Anyone recall the period pre-race that Vestas arrived last round? I seem to recall lots of chat that it was an extremely difficult task to announce and practice with such a short run into the event?

 

Aren't we already in that window? I have grave fears for this round, perhaps they should delay 'til 2018?

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I think it was as short as a month beforehand. Remember that no one had sailed on the "new" boat. Now plenty have.

 

Well away from your window of concern. 2017 it will be and I suspect that most of the entrants are well known but not announced until the boat is ready.

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I suspect you are correct DtM

 

Watch out for some crew announcements soon ;-)

 

SS

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I think it was as short as a month beforehand. Remember that no one had sailed on the "new" boat. Now plenty have.

 

Well away from your window of concern. 2017 it will be and I suspect that most of the entrants are well known but not announced until the boat is ready.

 

 

Vestas was extremely last minute. Team was officially announced August 13th 2014, a month short of the assembly time in Alicante. Deal was signed in July, while the first contact with the company was in late June. (Several key execs were from Volvo and the CEO came from Ericsson, where he had been involved with their VOR campaigns. So they knew the VOR as activation platform. And more importantly knew that the price offered by VOR to join last minute was unbeatable (especially compared to Ericsson huge budget in 2005 and 2008)).

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New video from the boat shed on the volvo ocean race facebook site:
https://www.facebook.com/volvooceanrace/videos/10155160945292437/
Milestone after milestone is being hit in progress.
They mention work on five boats.
So there will beat least five teams sailing in the coming VOR.
Team Akzo Nobel skippered by Simeon Tienpont
Dong Feng Racing Team skippered by Charles Chaudrelier.
Mapfre skippered by Xabi Fernandez.

Who are the other two teams?

 

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Plus the new build for the Malaysian/Hong Kong team....so that is 4 down and a max of 4 mystery doors available. My guess is they are not rushing 2 of those remaining 4 out the Boatshed door that quickly and will be interesting to see where a stitched up Vestas sits on the remainder list.

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Anyone have any inside updates on the ex-Alvimedica guys and where they stand regarding funding?

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I suspect you are correct DtM

 

Watch out for some crew announcements soon ;-)

 

SS

Dongfeng nailed 3 really good Sailors down....

Stu Bannatyne

Daryl Wislang (won last VOR with Abu Dhabi Ocean Racing)

Jeremie Beyou

 

Charles is serious about winning this thing this time.

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8th VOR for Stu Bannatyne.

 

Is he most experienced VOR sailor?

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Indeed he is forss, only of Bouwe Bekking or Neal McDonald get a ride this time will he be equalled for some time. He is great for the Southern Ocean

 

And don't forget Alinghi4ever, Stu has 3 winners medals to his credit.

 

SS

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In a video, Liz says that three boats have finished the refit process...
Only two have been presented. (second has just been launched).

Any insider?

 

New video from the boat shed on the volvo ocean race facebook site:
https://www.facebook.com/volvooceanrace/videos/10155160945292437/
Milestone after milestone is being hit in progress.
They mention work on five boats.
So there will beat least five teams sailing in the coming VOR.
Team Akzo Nobel skippered by Simeon Tienpont
Dong Feng Racing Team skippered by Charles Chaudrelier.
Mapfre skippered by Xabi Fernandez.

Who are the other two teams?

 

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Indeed he is forss, only of Bouwe Bekking or Neal McDonald get a ride this time will he be equalled for some time. He is great for the Southern Ocean

 

And don't forget Alinghi4ever, Stu has 3 winners medals to his credit.

 

SS

Jeremie Beyou is worth 2 bodies VOR past or present...a great hire....this is a uber team.

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Plus the new build for the Malaysian/Hong Kong team....so that is 4 down and a max of 4 mystery doors available. My guess is they are not rushing 2 of those remaining 4 out the Boatshed door that quickly and will be interesting to see where a stitched up Vestas sits on the remainder list.

 

This article says Tienpont's team is getting the new boat:

 

 

 

In charge of operations here are Nick Bice and Neil Cox. They run The Boatyard, the much-vaunted service facility that maintained and serviced the yachts during the 2015/6 race. In this new facility in Lisbon, a 120m covered shed, they have expanded the scope of The Boatyard to refit the seven existing yachts and fit out the new VO65 being built for new sponsor Akzo Nobel.

 

http://www.yachtingworld.com/news/massive-makeover-turning-volvo-ocean-race-one-designs-mint-condition-105130#hRLKPmbtUXsEFQv0.99

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Indeed he is forss, only of Bouwe Bekking or Neal McDonald get a ride this time will he be equalled for some time. He is great for the Southern Ocean

 

And don't forget Alinghi4ever, Stu has 3 winners medals to his credit.

 

SS

Jeremie Beyou is worth 2 bodies VOR past or present...a great hire....this is a uber team.

 

 

Do these French solo sailors generally fit well into a crewed environment? I seem to remember a similar strategy. Didn't work out too well that time, as I recall.

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Franck Cammas won the Volvo back in 2011 so I'd say it's pretty successful.

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There is at least one Aussie amro veteran on team azko Nobel, not sure when the team is announced but he is a definite

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Tienpont, who made the team’s milestone announcement on Wednesday at the HISWA Amsterdam Boatshow, said: “Team AkzoNobel is a brand-new team being built from the ground up – so a brand-new boat feels right.

 

“Every new boat is exciting, but this one is something special. It doesn’t seem very long since I started planning out this campaign on my kitchen table at home, so it’s a great feeling to now see our boat coming to fruition.”

 

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/03/08/new-dutch-boat-volvo-ocean-race/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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interesting all the media buzz from VOR and Akzo Nobel about having the new boat... aren't all boats supposed to be exactly the same?!? I guess they don't believe that themselves 100%.

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interesting all the media buzz from VOR and Akzo Nobel about having the new boat... aren't all boats supposed to be exactly the same?!? I guess they don't believe that themselves 100%.

 

Is the only news they have now... DF? Training in lorient, MAPFRE? Boat just launched and still in Alges they were out yesterday morning for a couple of hours, but I guess just to calibrate instruments and so on. They were just in front of the harbor.

Ciao

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interesting all the media buzz from VOR and Akzo Nobel about having the new boat... aren't all boats supposed to be exactly the same?!? I guess they don't believe that themselves 100%.

 

Nah, it is jut an excuse to get some excitement up. The "mystery" of who would get the last boat. Not that others had not already called it.

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Quoting from http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/03/08/new-dutch-boat-volvo-ocean-race/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

“Our goal is to be the best prepared team on the start line in Alicante, so, our first choice was always to have a new boat built.
“If you have that option, it’s a no-brainer decision to make when you are racing around the world.”
.........
He added: “The new boat will be identical to the existing fleet in every regard. All of the Volvo Ocean 65s were built to race in at least two editions, and the seven that finished the 2014-15 edition are in fantastic condition.

“You won’t be able to tell the difference between the brand new boat, and one of the old ones,” he added. “And there is no reason why an existing boat, sailed properly, cannot win the next Volvo Ocean Race.”
..........

So, maybe I am missing something? Why is it a no-brainer to have a new boat? Is it a lot cheaper than a second hand one?

There has to be a reason.

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Sailbydate, Dongfeng had a number of short handed sailors last time round and were leading when their mast broke 250 Nm west of Cape Horn. One of the short handed sailors climbed a 'semi-stayed mast' to cut away the top section while still at sea.

 

In spite of scoring fleet + 1 for the leg due to retirement they were still on the start line for the next leg (which they won into Newport R.I.) and went on to a 3rd overall so I suppose apart from that you are right in that "it didn't work out too well".

 

Advantage of short handed sailor is they tend NOT to be specialists, can turn their hand to any job on the boat and are used to having to fix things as they go along. Just look at Kevin Escoffier from DFRT, down below fixing problems with a pad eye one minute and then up the mast re-gluing the track back on the next. I did hear the only part of the DFRT mast track that didn't require re-fixing when they serviced it in NZ was the bit that Kevin fixed while the boat was charging along but that may just be a rumour.

 

And let's face it these boats with just 7 or 7+2 are short handed. With a watch system that's 4 on deck at any one time other than sail changes that's why any crew that doesn't take the 2 female crew as a pair of drivers (at least) is crazy in my view.

 

Just sayin'

 

SS

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Sailbydate, Dongfeng had a number of short handed sailors last time round and were leading when their mast broke 250 Nm west of Cape Horn. One of the short handed sailors climbed a 'semi-stayed mast' to cut away the top section while still at sea.

 

In spite of scoring fleet + 1 for the leg due to retirement they were still on the start line for the next leg (which they won into Newport R.I.) and went on to a 3rd overall so I suppose apart from that you are right in that "it didn't work out too well".

 

Advantage of short handed sailor is they tend NOT to be specialists, can turn their hand to any job on the boat and are used to having to fix things as they go along. Just look at Kevin Escoffier from DFRT, down below fixing problems with a pad eye one minute and then up the mast re-gluing the track back on the next. I did hear the only part of the DFRT mast track that didn't require re-fixing when they serviced it in NZ was the bit that Kevin fixed while the boat was charging along but that may just be a rumour.

 

And let's face it these boats with just 7 or 7+2 are short handed. With a watch system that's 4 on deck at any one time other than sail changes that's why any crew that doesn't take the 2 female crew as a pair of drivers (at least) is crazy in my view.

 

Just sayin'

 

SS

shanghaisailor,

Without that Mast-Break Incident the 2014/2015 VOR would have come down to the Final Legs Lisbon - Lorient and Lorient - De Hague - Gothenburg.

 

I say it was bad luck.

 

edit: I'm hoping that Pascal Bidegorry returns as Navigator for Dongfeng. He did an insane good job the last time.

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since recession ( 8 years already ) push major 'daily' brands struggling on restrictions modern advertising, expect to see some very well known commercial names to return sponsoring more traditional events. so far we have seen :

Akzo Nobel - paints/chemicals - in business since 1646 !
Dongfeng - heavy industry - in bussines since 1969
Mapfre - insurance/finance - is business since 1933

need a beer ? or medicine ? or chocolate :D

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Sailbydate, Dongfeng had a number of short handed sailors last time round and were leading when their mast broke 250 Nm west of Cape Horn. One of the short handed sailors climbed a 'semi-stayed mast' to cut away the top section while still at sea.

 

In spite of scoring fleet + 1 for the leg due to retirement they were still on the start line for the next leg (which they won into Newport R.I.) and went on to a 3rd overall so I suppose apart from that you are right in that "it didn't work out too well".

 

Advantage of short handed sailor is they tend NOT to be specialists, can turn their hand to any job on the boat and are used to having to fix things as they go along. Just look at Kevin Escoffier from DFRT, down below fixing problems with a pad eye one minute and then up the mast re-gluing the track back on the next. I did hear the only part of the DFRT mast track that didn't require re-fixing when they serviced it in NZ was the bit that Kevin fixed while the boat was charging along but that may just be a rumour.

 

And let's face it these boats with just 7 or 7+2 are short handed. With a watch system that's 4 on deck at any one time other than sail changes that's why any crew that doesn't take the 2 female crew as a pair of drivers (at least) is crazy in my view.

 

Just sayin'

 

SS

 

Thanks, SS. You make a persuasive argument for solo sailors.

 

I agree they are multi-skilled and fearless. Imagine having a guy like Conrad Colman on your crew.

 

But do they REALLY want to be there, in that sort of crewed environment? It takes a different sort of individual to be a successful solo sailor. Resourceful certainly, but also someone who definitely wants to do things HIS/HER way.

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When he said it was a no brainer to go for the new boat, he meant he had no brain.

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Thanks, SS. You make a persuasive argument for solo sailors.

 

I agree they are multi-skilled and fearless. Imagine having a guy like Conrad Colman on your crew.

 

But do they REALLY want to be there, in that sort of crewed environment? It takes a different sort of individual to be a successful solo sailor. Resourceful certainly, but also someone who definitely wants to do things HIS/HER way.

 

Would probably be a useful experience for Conrad too. Although he is a very experienced offshore sailor, crewed sailing, where you have to push the boat 100% 24-7 is a bit different to what he is used to.

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Sailbydate, Dongfeng had a number of short handed sailors last time round and were leading when their mast broke 250 Nm west of Cape Horn. One of the short handed sailors climbed a 'semi-stayed mast' to cut away the top section while still at sea.

 

In spite of scoring fleet + 1 for the leg due to retirement they were still on the start line for the next leg (which they won into Newport R.I.) and went on to a 3rd overall so I suppose apart from that you are right in that "it didn't work out too well".

 

Advantage of short handed sailor is they tend NOT to be specialists, can turn their hand to any job on the boat and are used to having to fix things as they go along. Just look at Kevin Escoffier from DFRT, down below fixing problems with a pad eye one minute and then up the mast re-gluing the track back on the next. I did hear the only part of the DFRT mast track that didn't require re-fixing when they serviced it in NZ was the bit that Kevin fixed while the boat was charging along but that may just be a rumour.

 

And let's face it these boats with just 7 or 7+2 are short handed. With a watch system that's 4 on deck at any one time other than sail changes that's why any crew that doesn't take the 2 female crew as a pair of drivers (at least) is crazy in my view.

 

Just sayin'

 

SS

 

Thanks, SS. You make a persuasive argument for solo sailors.

 

I agree they are multi-skilled and fearless. Imagine having a guy like Conrad Colman on your crew.

 

But do they REALLY want to be there, in that sort of crewed environment? It takes a different sort of individual to be a successful solo sailor. Resourceful certainly, but also someone who definitely wants to do things HIS/HER way.

 

 

Didn't work out so well onboard Mapfre in leg one did it? Still, that was one of many solo sailors onboard different boats as SS has already pointed out with regards to how well DongFeng did.

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Every ~three weeks another boat comes out of branding. Hard to keep things under wraps after that so we should see regular announcements.

IIRC Mapfre came out ~2 weeks ago.

 

 

VG sailors in the VOR.

We talked a bit about how hard it is to get sponsor money for the VG. IIRC Jeremies sponsor contract is done so signing up with a top VG team is certainly a way to keep money coming in.

That this VOR edition is directly after the VG also helps. There are still 2.5 years to build a VG campaign after that.

 

Then the VOR in itself is a big resume item for any pro sailor. I'm sure some solo sailors are interested just because of that.

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When he said it was a no brainer to go for the new boat, he meant he had no brain.

+1, . at least challenged, wrt logic and self-expression

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interesting all the media buzz from VOR and Akzo Nobel about having the new boat... aren't all boats supposed to be exactly the same?!? I guess they don't believe that themselves 100%.

All boats are the same, but some are more the same as the others.

Free interpretation from the book "Animal Farm" by George Orwell;

All animals are equal but some are more equal than the others.

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Thanks, SS. You make a persuasive argument for solo sailors.

 

I agree they are multi-skilled and fearless. Imagine having a guy like Conrad Colman on your crew.

 

But do they REALLY want to be there, in that sort of crewed environment? It takes a different sort of individual to be a successful solo sailor. Resourceful certainly, but also someone who definitely wants to do things HIS/HER way.

 

Would probably be a useful experience for Conrad too. Although he is a very experienced offshore sailor, crewed sailing, where you have to push the boat 100% 24-7 is a bit different to what he is used to.

 

 

The only time he wasn't pushing it was when he was asleep and while building his jury rig, I reckon.

 

Oh...and maybe when he was piloting his drone! :)

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

Probably Enright, he's got money for a boat, heard still looking for sponsor money but that was a month or so ago, maybe he landed one by now.

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Thanks, SS. You make a persuasive argument for solo sailors.

 

I agree they are multi-skilled and fearless. Imagine having a guy like Conrad Colman on your crew.

 

But do they REALLY want to be there, in that sort of crewed environment? It takes a different sort of individual to be a successful solo sailor. Resourceful certainly, but also someone who definitely wants to do things HIS/HER way.

 

Would probably be a useful experience for Conrad too. Although he is a very experienced offshore sailor, crewed sailing, where you have to push the boat 100% 24-7 is a bit different to what he is used to.

 

 

The only time he wasn't pushing it was when he was asleep and while building his jury rig, I reckon.

 

Oh...and maybe when he was piloting his drone! :)

 

Having to fix things all the time tend to take your focus away from the actual race. The trimming and navigation will eventually suffer. Just a different kind of race

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Advantage of short handed sailor is they tend NOT to be specialists, can turn their hand to any job on the boat and are used to having to fix things as they go along. Just look at Kevin Escoffier from DFRT, down below fixing problems with a pad eye one minute and then up the mast re-gluing the track back on the next. I did hear the only part of the DFRT mast track that didn't require re-fixing when they serviced it in NZ was the bit that Kevin fixed while the boat was charging along but that may just be a rumour.

 

 

I'm sure Kevin did an excellent job of course, but these activities are hardly "specialist", are they? I'm sure any of the crew could do the same? (given that the crew is somewhat experienced and not a newbie)

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

Probably Enright, he's got money for a boat, heard still looking for sponsor money but that was a month or so ago, maybe he landed one by now.

 

 

 

All this secrecy about teams makes me feel that this is more than a PR stunt with little more than six months to go.

 

I guess MT is earning his keep running around trying to persuade sponsors to chip in. Somehow I think the poor old Chinese owners of Volvo (and Dongfeng) will be shelling out more than MT promised this time around.

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Mapfre on the water for the first sail...

 

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These solo sailors with all their so called deficiencies actually do crewed races albeit many are long distance 2 handed. Maybe Vestas could have used someone who knew where they fuckin were for instance because no one else did, incl Nico??

 

Trade you one Jeremie Beyou type for two VOR veterans any day of the week.

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Hey maybe DongFeng could have used someone who would put their hand up and say "all this 4 sail reaching we are doing, you reckon the mast will be ok?"

 

You need team players. Look at all the undermining & captaincy changes in the past. You need the helmsman to go up on watch & get that .005% extra out of the boat. You don't want him getting up from his bunk and thinking this Captain is a fucking asshole. That kinda shows in the rankings anyway. Vestas never seemed gelled, they said they didn't need a 2nd Watch Nav - CN would handle it all.

 

EDIT: VOR is follow the AIS - boring as shit racing. Ban AIS, its fully crewed - keep a lockout!!!!

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These solo sailors with all their so called deficiencies actually do crewed races albeit many are long distance 2 handed. Maybe Vestas could have used someone who knew where they fuckin were for instance because no one else did, incl Nico??

 

Trade you one Jeremie Beyou type for two VOR veterans any day of the week.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%A9mie_Beyou

Impressive resume. Not an average offshore sailor

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I guess MT is earning his keep running around trying to persuade sponsors to chip in. Somehow I think the poor old Chinese owners of Volvo (and Dongfeng) will be shelling out more than MT promised this time around.

 

 

I feel awful for them.

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

Probably Enright, he's got money for a boat, heard still looking for sponsor money but that was a month or so ago, maybe he landed one by now.

 

 

Their were Team Alvimedica mats down on one of the boats in the yachtworld video, no idea if that is a real sign or not but sounds plausible.

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Amory Ross posted a picture on instagram that looked like a 65 under wraps. I'll post a screenshot once I have a computer again.

 

Looks likely

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Winchfodder, I fail to see how Dongfeng would be shelling out extra money. They are a team sponsor and not an owner of the race.

 

And Volvo AB is a Swedish company by the way NOT Chinese, Volvo Cars is owned by Geely which is based in Hangzhou.

 

But you know what they say - it aint over until the fat lady sings ;-)

 

SS

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SCANAS - you should get your facts right.

 

On the approach to the Horn Dongfeng was backed off, in preservation mode almost. Brunel was the one that was filmed from the Helo 4 sail reaching - you know yellow and black mainsail = Brumel -so how Brunel 4 sail reaching weakened DFRTs mast quite fails me.

 

Regarding crew unhappiness - look at DFRT line-up Charles - solo, Pascal - Solo (& Charles's skipper in the past) Thomas, Eric - all short handed sailors and I can personally vouch none of your presumed poor crew dynamics on that boat. You just had to be at one of the crew dinners to se how 'tight ' they all were with each other, even on land.

 

I don't know about any of the other crews however as I never got invited to dine with them :-)

 

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SCANAS - you should get your facts right.

 

On the approach to the Horn Dongfeng was backed off, in preservation mode almost. Brunel was the one that was filmed from the Helo 4 sail reaching - you know yellow and black mainsail = Brumel -so how Brunel 4 sail reaching weakened DFRTs mast quite fails me.

 

SS

 

I fail to see where he said that it was only around the horn they used 4 sails.

 

Anyway, you could always stick your head in the sand and blame everything on the equipment, instead of trying to find out if maybe your use of the equipment was causing the problems. It's a sure way to avoid progress.

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

 

Enright + Sehested?

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

Probably Enright, he's got money for a boat, heard still looking for sponsor money but that was a month or so ago, maybe he landed one by now.

 

 

Their were Team Alvimedica mats down on one of the boats in the yachtworld video, no idea if that is a real sign or not but sounds plausible.

 

Won't be Alvimedica, their CEO was the one that pushed for the Volvo team, then was fired for several reasons around the time the last race ended. If I had to guess they were semi-subsidized last time as well, doubt Volvo would do it for the same team twice.

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Compilation of 65's out plowing (and also HB, noting it had no starboard foil at that stage).

 

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BREAKING

 

4th Team of the 2017/2018 VOR is confirmed...will be revealed later this month....

 

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9433_Team-4-confirmed-and-coming-this-month.html

 

So, who could that be?

 

Hongkong Entry? Vestas? Alvimedica? or Australian Entry now that they have Melbourne as Stopover.

Probably Enright, he's got money for a boat, heard still looking for sponsor money but that was a month or so ago, maybe he landed one by now.

 

 

Their were Team Alvimedica mats down on one of the boats in the yachtworld video, no idea if that is a real sign or not but sounds plausible.

 

Won't be Alvimedica, their CEO was the one that pushed for the Volvo team, then was fired for several reasons around the time the last race ended. If I had to guess they were semi-subsidized last time as well, doubt Volvo would do it for the same team twice.

 

 

I got the goods. Couple more calls to make to complete the picture. Yes to Enright, no to Alvimedica, yes to a major Danish sponsor, but probably the title sponsor is a well known name in high performance sailing sponsorship...

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Charlie and Mark back in the VOR! This is awesomeness.

 

Couple of things...it had been a long time since the Newport waters were churned up like they were for the in-port race and the leg start. NPT was offf the freaking charts. I'm sure the home town team had a bit to do with it (as did the leadership of 33rd degree Grandmaster Brad Read for the stopover). Second, the Alvi boys captured the hearts of a lot of young kids during the race. My 7 year old always wanted to do a "Charlie check" when he went to bed and right when he got up. He wanted to see how the boat was doing. Pretty cool to see as a dad. So psyched to see this happening....I'll definitely be in Newport on Tuesday.

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Charlie and Mark back in the VOR! This is awesomeness.

 

Couple of things...it had been a long time since the Newport waters were churned up like they were for the in-port race and the leg start. NPT was offf the freaking charts. I'm sure the home town team had a bit to do with it (as did the leadership of 33rd degree Grandmaster Brad Read for the stopover). Second, the Alvi boys captured the hearts of a lot of young kids during the race. My 7 year old always wanted to do a "Charlie check" when he went to bed and right when he got up. He wanted to see how the boat was doing. Pretty cool to see as a dad. So psyched to see this happening....I'll definitely be in Newport on Tuesday.

 

I was in Newport in June '12 to watch the AC World Series. The waters looked churned up to me.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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So which team BLAK? Clean reckons they are good for sailing? Blue is their colour - any guesses anyone? :-)

 

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Charlie and Mark back in the VOR! This is awesomeness.

 

Couple of things...it had been a long time since the Newport waters were churned up like they were for the in-port race and the leg start. NPT was offf the freaking charts. I'm sure the home town team had a bit to do with it (as did the leadership of 33rd degree Grandmaster Brad Read for the stopover). Second, the Alvi boys captured the hearts of a lot of young kids during the race. My 7 year old always wanted to do a "Charlie check" when he went to bed and right when he got up. He wanted to see how the boat was doing. Pretty cool to see as a dad. So psyched to see this happening....I'll definitely be in Newport on Tuesday.

 

I was in Newport in June '12 to watch the AC World Series. The waters looked churned up to me.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

 

 

Believe me, it was nothing compared to the VOR. The Eastern Passage like the videos of the 1980 America's Cup, with hundreds of boats all steaming at flank to watch the VOR boats sail off into the fog.

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So, what is the new news people? Who's the sponsor for the American team?

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Charlie and Mark back in the VOR! This is awesomeness.

Couple of things...it had been a long time since the Newport waters were churned up like they were for the in-port race and the leg start. NPT was offf the freaking charts. I'm sure the home town team had a bit to do with it (as did the leadership of 33rd degree Grandmaster Brad Read for the stopover). Second, the Alvi boys captured the hearts of a lot of young kids during the race. My 7 year old always wanted to do a "Charlie check" when he went to bed and right when he got up. He wanted to see how the boat was doing. Pretty cool to see as a dad. So psyched to see this happening....I'll definitely be in Newport on Tuesday.

 

I was in Newport in June '12 to watch the AC World Series. The waters looked churned up to me.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

Believe me, it was nothing compared to the VOR. The Eastern Passage like the videos of the 1980 America's Cup, with hundreds of boats all steaming at flank to watch the VOR boats sail off into the fog.

Agreed WetHog...it was pretty packed in 2012. But like Leo said, the leg start was a sight to behold. The sheer number of boats on the way out of the bay was unreal. We ended up following them until off of Ruggles...partially because we wanted to wait until the highway cleared out a bit on the way back in.

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3 new Vids on youtube about the new crew members on DFRT, 2 from VOR & one from DFRT. There is no doubt about the quality of the team Charles Caudrelier is building.

 

Nobody can doubt their commitment to this race (neither the skipper nor the sponsors)

 

Am I biased? Of course - just look at my screen name ha ha!

 

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3 new Vids on youtube about the new crew members on DFRT, 2 from VOR & one from DFRT. There is no doubt about the quality of the team Charles Caudrelier is building.

 

Nobody can doubt their commitment to this race (neither the skipper nor the sponsors)

 

Am I biased? Of course - just look at my screen name ha ha!

 

SS

 

Really great to see SS.

Loving the behind the scenes stuff on Instagram stories as well.

Hope all is well!!

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Charlie and Mark back in the VOR! This is awesomeness.

Couple of things...it had been a long time since the Newport waters were churned up like they were for the in-port race and the leg start. NPT was offf the freaking charts. I'm sure the home town team had a bit to do with it (as did the leadership of 33rd degree Grandmaster Brad Read for the stopover). Second, the Alvi boys captured the hearts of a lot of young kids during the race. My 7 year old always wanted to do a "Charlie check" when he went to bed and right when he got up. He wanted to see how the boat was doing. Pretty cool to see as a dad. So psyched to see this happening....I'll definitely be in Newport on Tuesday.

I was in Newport in June '12 to watch the AC World Series. The waters looked churned up to me.

 

WetHog

Believe me, it was nothing compared to the VOR. The Eastern Passage like the videos of the 1980 America's Cup, with hundreds of boats all steaming at flank to watch the VOR boats sail off into the fog.

Agreed WetHog...it was pretty packed in 2012. But like Leo said, the leg start was a sight to behold. The sheer number of boats on the way out of the bay was unreal. We ended up following them until off of Ruggles...partially because we wanted to wait until the highway cleared out a bit on the way back in.

 

 

I thought you meant churned up in regards to the racing. Not spectator boats. Although there were a lot on the water back in '12. But they couldn't follow the 45's around the course now could they. ;)

 

There was also a J boat anchored out in the spectator fleet back in '12. Don't remember its name but it was the first time I had seen one in person. Absolutely beautiful sight.

 

Did they at least make better use of Fort Adams for the VOR stopover than they did for the ACWS? Thats a great spot for events like that but in '12 they didn't use the Fort to its maximum potential, IMO. They did have adequate refreshment stations, as my commentary for my personal videos of the event can attest. :lol:

 

I am hoping to be back to Newport in the future. Great town. Reminds me of my hometown of Annapolis. My Brother-in-law was stationed in Newport for the Coast Guard back in '12 so I had a free place to stay for the ACWS. He is hoping to get stationed back in the area soon, well if you consider New London, CT in the area. If he does before the next VOR stopover i will plan on a trip back to Newport. Got my fingers crossed.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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So which team BLAK? Clean reckons they are good for sailing? Blue is their colour - any guesses anyone? :-)

 

SS

Don't know really...saw it on The Boatyard FB page. The light blue bowsprit could indicate that it was Vestas (don't know which boat number she has) so it is possible that they're reusing the boat with a different colour scheme? The blue is similar to their logo's and the orange was used on the Sailrockets.

 

And btw I am actually a noob. That was my first post, nothing suspicous going on lol.

 

Link to The Boatyard page

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Thanks for posting it BLAK. I'm just a suspicious kind of guy. Welcome.

 

 

So which team BLAK? Clean reckons they are good for sailing? Blue is their colour - any guesses anyone? :-)

 

SS

Don't know really...saw it on The Boatyard FB page. The light blue bowsprit could indicate that it was Vestas (don't know which boat number she has) so it is possible that they're reusing the boat with a different colour scheme? The blue is similar to their logo's and the orange was used on the Sailrockets.

 

And btw I am actually a noob. That was my first post, nothing suspicous going on lol.

 

Link to The Boatyard page

 

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Thanks for posting it BLAK. I'm just a suspicious kind of guy. Welcome.

 

 

So which team BLAK? Clean reckons they are good for sailing? Blue is their colour - any guesses anyone? :-)

 

SS

Don't know really...saw it on The Boatyard FB page. The light blue bowsprit could indicate that it was Vestas (don't know which boat number she has) so it is possible that they're reusing the boat with a different colour scheme? The blue is similar to their logo's and the orange was used on the Sailrockets.

 

And btw I am actually a noob. That was my first post, nothing suspicous going on lol.

 

Link to The Boatyard page

 

 

No worries, I understand why you're suspicous.

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Are they going to be all the same front with black and the Volvo logo, a hull color behind with the name? Dong, Mapfre, the new boat seem to have it. Fucking boring. Puma come back.

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Are they going to be all the same front with black and the Volvo logo, a hull color behind with the name? Dong, Mapfre, the new boat seem to have it. Fucking boring. Puma come back.

Let's call it what is. The Volvo Marketing Race.

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Are we hearing no news because there are some amazingly well kept secrets out there? or are we hearing no news because there is no news?
Will Volvo pull the plug soon?

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You're hearing no news because no one else in sailing media does any digging besides us. And I'm busy in Havana...

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You're hearing no news because no one else in sailing media does any digging besides us. And I'm busy in Havana...

+1 very true. That's why we love SA. Not just you Clean, but also your forum contributors, and if there is any news or even good rumours, we will read it here first.

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I will bet you a $1 it is SAP

 

http://www.extremesailingseries.com/teams/view/sap-extreme-sailing-team1

 

Analytics, Worldwide coverage, Already into sailing.

 

Blue color.

The yellow stripy bit doesn't look exactly like their GC32 and I'm not picturing how the blue hull goes at all with SAP's blue fade logo. It's on a black background on the GC32. A worthy guess though I'm sure.

 

N.B. This is just weird but if you click on the link above, it goes to the New Zealand Extreme Team (???) but if you copy and past the link it goes to the SAP Team. None of them look exactly like the guy standing in front of the blue boat though.

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N.B. This is just weird but if you click on the link above, it goes to the New Zealand Extreme Team (???) but if you copy and past the link it goes to the SAP Team. None of them look exactly like the guy standing in front of the blue boat though.

 

 

 

Looks like that's because of the trailing space in the link.

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You're hearing no news because no one else in sailing media does any digging besides us. And I'm busy in Havana...

 

Our Man in Havana?

 

Just don't go done the same path of credulity. :)

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It would be very cool if Alinghi joins the game,

It's not around the buoys sailing perhaps a little bit too rough for them?

And then winning an keeping the game for two campaigns and hand it over to something even more terrific?

Like MOD 70's ?

 

I will bet you a $1 it is SAP

 

http://www.extremesailingseries.com/teams/view/sap-extreme-sailing-team1

 

Analytics, Worldwide coverage, Already into sailing.

 

Blue color.

The yellow stripy bit doesn't look exactly like their GC32 and I'm not picturing how the blue hull goes at all with SAP's blue fade logo. It's on a black background on the GC32. A worthy guess though I'm sure.

 

N.B. This is just weird but if you click on the link above, it goes to the New Zealand Extreme Team (???) but if you copy and past the link it goes to the SAP Team. None of them look exactly like the guy standing in front of the blue boat though.

 

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Vestas must be the sponsor of Charlie and Mark Towill. They just changed their old VOR team name on Facebook to "Vestas 11th Hour Racing". Good to see a sponsor return, despite the sacking of the CMO after the last race.

 

https://www.facebook.com/Vestas11thHourRacing/

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By changing a facebook page so it can slowly trickly out via shares for a few hours before the press conference? a splashy leak can be a good tool, but this is not that. Some of the sources of my reporting on this were likely looking to fire up the sailing community in advance of the more carefully messaged announcement

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By changing a facebook page so it can slowly trickly out via shares for a few hours before the press conference? a splashy leak can be a good tool, but this is not that. Some of the sources of my reporting on this were likely looking to fire up the sailing community in advance of the more carefully messaged announcement

 

 

my guess is that the Facebook responsible at Vestas did not know that a name change is automatically notified to all your page followers. Surely a mistake. The problem of new media: the rules are new and not known!

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And now we know why the early launch.

 

"Watch the launch event live" started right about now

 

 

 

 

Oh, and good job on killing all the existing external social media links.

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Pfftt.... How rad would a marlboro boat be?! They can all wear cowboy hats during inport racing!

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Easy, the press conference would always add smell to all the smoke and hot air. ;)

 

Some nice info in the beginning, sounds like Vestas is the last returning sponsor. Did not hear much beyond that. Did I miss something? Other than Charlie dodging questions that is.

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Good to see the boys AND Vestas back.

 

The VOR must be striking a chord with their own sustainability message to attract the Schmidt Family Foundation to co-sponsor a team.

 

And speaking of sustainability - and thanks - anyone who thought that Morning Light was just a movie project well, think again, these guys basically owe their first big step up, at least in part, to Roy Disney and that fly on the wall documentary.

 

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The VOR must be striking a chord with their own sustainability message to attract the Schmidt Family Foundation to co-sponsor a team.

 

 

It sells, the end.

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Fuck it is now hiding logos in the boat shed until the director opens the doors shit and Facefuck marketing strategies.

 

Sending top line people (who unfortunately need the bucks) on a circuitious RTW route on 65' lipstick on pigs is making my balls drop even further.. VG guys must be pissing themselves laughing in terms of competing sponsor/ competing event tension...there isn't any.

 

God knows how experienced people feel deep down about prostituting their craft to this Lego Land Race. There isn't an ounce of aura left anymore for them or anyone. Just a sprinkling of a few bucks around the table. That's sad.

 

Fuck I hope Volvo Inc have a grande plan for the next one or if not they just fuck off. Don't worry someone else with high altitude balls will step in, just as the beer/Whitbread boys passed the batton.

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Does anyone know which boat this new Team Vestas/11th hour will be sailing? Is it the repaired boat?

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I would think it will be vestas or their old boat

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And now we know why the early launch.

 

"Watch the launch event live" started right about now

 

 

 

 

Oh, and good job on killing all the existing external social media links.

 

Thanks for posting a link to the video. Allowed me to fast forward to the important bits.

 

Excited for the Boys to be back with a good sponsor. And it will be easier to pull for them this year with a sponsor that is not a pharmaceutical company. Plus the boat should look fantastic if it is the same blue as last editions Vestas boat.

 

Also, is Brad Read related to Ken Read? Just curious.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Fuck it is now hiding logos in the boat shed until the director opens the doors shit and Facefuck marketing strategies.

 

Sending top line people (who unfortunately need the bucks) on a circuitious RTW route on 65' lipstick on pigs is making my balls drop even further.. VG guys must be pissing themselves laughing in terms of competing sponsor/ competing event tension...there isn't any.

 

God knows how experienced people feel deep down about prostituting their craft to this Lego Land Race. There isn't an ounce of aura left anymore for them or anyone. Just a sprinkling of a few bucks around the table. That's sad.

 

Fuck I hope Volvo Inc have a grande plan for the next one or if not they just fuck off. Don't worry someone else with high altitude balls will step in, just as the beer/Whitbread boys passed the batton.

+1

Only interest now is to see who is desperate enough to join a crew for this one. It's a big commitment time-wise which cuts a sailor out of circulation and other opportunities for quite a long time. Is it worth it career-wise?

Volvo (the company) must sure be embarrassed and worried by now. I guess it will cost them and arm and a leg to pull the plug and an arm and a leg to let the race go ahead. Rock and a hard place?

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And now we know why the early launch.

 

"Watch the launch event live" started right about now

 

 

 

 

Oh, and good job on killing all the existing external social media links.

 

Thanks for posting a link to the video. Allowed me to fast forward to the important bits.

 

Excited for the Boys to be back with a good sponsor. And it will be easier to pull for them this year with a sponsor that is not a pharmaceutical company. Plus the boat should look fantastic if it is the same blue as last editions Vestas boat.

 

Also, is Brad Read related to Ken Read? Just curious.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

 

They are brothers.

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