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Jimmy Buffet just bought one of ugliest sailboats I have ever seen...

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Thanks for the info. That is very good to hear. Also those are some great pictures of Valis and the Golden Gate.

 

Thanks! Those photos were taken when we were heading offshore for a pre-Pacific Cup race overnight shakedown. As we approached the bridge, a guy in a RIB zoomed by and asked if he could take some photos. We said "Hell yeah!" so he circled us, snapping, while we headed out. About six months later VALIS shows up on the cover of "Sail" magazine! Sometime after that, PSC picked some more pictures from that photo shoot for their website.

 

The photographer was Peter Lyons, who does some really nice work.

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I think it would look better in Frog Green and Vomit Sunrise like the other one.

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I have a lot of foggy yet pleasant childhood memories from the middle to late 70's of storms, at least 1 hurricane, beaches, hobie cats, and cheap bags of gulf shrimp filled cookouts from Galveston on down through Corpus Christi. There was no escape from Buffet's tunes, and east Texas was a much different place during this time. My last visit to that area found me sitting in the middle of Landry's tourist hell in both Kemah and Galveston, still looking for some of the old flavor, and sure as hell not finding any. What a goddamned travesty this whole area has become.

That laid back, Caribbean and Creole flavored lifestyle that was known to the US gulf states is just gone, ain't it. It's just all fucking long gone. And this CMT-minimum-wage-apartment-dwelling-inbred-redneck abomination that's half sport fisher, half sailboat with a pickup truck tailgate is just another nail in the coffin from the greedy sunzabitches that exploited, polluted, and all 'round ruined life in the Gulf States. These fuckers like Buffet and the trademarked corporate sharks that swim in his wake have shit on and sold out every stretch of land and beach from Brownsville to Key West. Despite pockets of ultra luxury real estate, all the towns and cities around them on the gulf are now some of the poorest, least educated, and most polluted backwaters filled with human misery as you can find anywhere on the planet. What should have been America's riviera and gateway to the Caribbean and nicer parts of Mexico is just a lifeless, brown, polluted oil field ruled by drug traffickers and corporate waterways. So yeah. Fuck their shitty JB lifestyle luxo yacht, fuck their property development companies, fuck their event promoters, fuck those oil companies, fuck Landrys, fuck Houston and their coca-cola cowboy politics, fuck him, and fuck all that greedy ass coattail riders that have profited from the whole stinkin' mess.

I need a drink.

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I have a lot of foggy yet pleasant childhood memories from the middle to late 70's of storms, at least 1 hurricane, beaches, hobie cats, and cheap bags of gulf shrimp filled cookouts from Galveston on down through Corpus Christi. There was no escape from Buffet's tunes, and east Texas was a much different place during this time. My last visit to that area found me sitting in the middle of Landry's tourist hell in both Kemah and Galveston, still looking for some of the old flavor, and sure as hell not finding any. What a goddamned travesty this whole area has become.

 

That laid back, Caribbean and Creole flavored lifestyle that was known to the US gulf states is just gone, ain't it. It's just all fucking long gone. And this CMT-minimum-wage-apartment-dwelling-inbred-redneck abomination that's half sport fisher, half sailboat with a pickup truck tailgate is just another nail in the coffin from the greedy sunzabitches that exploited, polluted, and all 'round ruined life in the Gulf States. These fuckers like Buffet and the trademarked corporate sharks that swim in his wake have shit on and sold out every stretch of land and beach from Brownsville to Key West. Despite pockets of ultra luxury real estate, all the towns and cities around them on the gulf are now some of the poorest, least educated, and most polluted backwaters filled with human misery as you can find anywhere on the planet. What should have been America's riviera and gateway to the Caribbean and nicer parts of Mexico is just a lifeless, brown, polluted oil field ruled by drug traffickers and corporate waterways. So yeah. Fuck their shitty JB lifestyle luxo yacht, fuck their property development companies, fuck their event promoters, fuck those oil companies, fuck Landrys, fuck Houston and their coca-cola cowboy politics, fuck him, and fuck all that greedy ass coattail riders that have profited from the whole stinkin' mess.

 

I need a drink.

Hear, hear. Excellent rant. I spent quite a bit of time in on Padre Island, around Aransas Pass, Texas in the early-mid '90s and you could see the changes coming. It's a shame.

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@soak_ed, it sure is a crying shame. I do remember Padre well. Among those memories is sliding around in the back of gramp's Chevy full of beach shit, wet sand, and loudly protesting mothers while he drove through the surf at high speed. we were living in League City then, which was mostly just telephone pole lined 2 lane highways and scattered trailer houses. My brother was born on Galveston.

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I have a lot of foggy yet pleasant childhood memories from the middle to late 70's of storms, at least 1 hurricane, beaches, hobie cats, and cheap bags of gulf shrimp filled cookouts from Galveston on down through Corpus Christi. There was no escape from Buffet's tunes, and east Texas was a much different place during this time. My last visit to that area found me sitting in the middle of Landry's tourist hell in both Kemah and Galveston, still looking for some of the old flavor, and sure as hell not finding any. What a goddamned travesty this whole area has become.

 

That laid back, Caribbean and Creole flavored lifestyle that was known to the US gulf states is just gone, ain't it. It's just all fucking long gone. And this CMT-minimum-wage-apartment-dwelling-inbred-redneck abomination that's half sport fisher, half sailboat with a pickup truck tailgate is just another nail in the coffin from the greedy sunzabitches that exploited, polluted, and all 'round ruined life in the Gulf States. These fuckers like Buffet and the trademarked corporate sharks that swim in his wake have shit on and sold out every stretch of land and beach from Brownsville to Key West. Despite pockets of ultra luxury real estate, all the towns and cities around them on the gulf are now some of the poorest, least educated, and most polluted backwaters filled with human misery as you can find anywhere on the planet. What should have been America's riviera and gateway to the Caribbean and nicer parts of Mexico is just a lifeless, brown, polluted oil field ruled by drug traffickers and corporate waterways. So yeah. Fuck their shitty JB lifestyle luxo yacht, fuck their property development companies, fuck their event promoters, fuck those oil companies, fuck Landrys, fuck Houston and their coca-cola cowboy politics, fuck him, and fuck all that greedy ass coattail riders that have profited from the whole stinkin' mess.

 

I need a drink.

That shit should be on the front page.

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@soak_ed, it sure is a crying shame. I do remember Padre well. Among those memories is sliding around in the back of gramp's Chevy full of beach shit, wet sand, and loudly protesting mothers while he drove through the surf at high speed. we were living in League City then, which was mostly just telephone pole lined 2 lane highways and scattered trailer houses. My brother was born on Galveston.

Good on gramps. If you are going to drive along the surf line, you better keep moving at a good clip because if you get bogged down and the tide is coming in, your car is fucked! I used to go tearing along in my little Ford Escort, it was relatively new, so I didn't want to get stuck. I saw more than one saltwater inundated car there. I grew up on Lake Erie, I spent a few years going regularly to the Texas Gulf Coast, I miss it, except for the sight and smell of pollution in Lake Erie in the '60s-70s and the smell of crude oil and the tar balls on the Gulf Coast.

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Well I have to agree with a lot of this new property/resort development crap. I'm 74 and sure glad I grew up in that era of the 50's, 60's, 70's.

The kids today don't know what they missed !!

At one point I bought a 41 wood ketch and decided to go sail around the Caribbean for awhile. Spent 8 months in the Bahamas sailing, drinking, partying. A friend threw me a tape of Buffet's new album A1A at the time, and it became our theme music for the trip...life is Just a Tire Swing, A Pirate Looks at 40, Stories we Could Tell, Mother Mother Ocean, Nautical Wheelers, etc. Felt like we were exploring, ....likely like Buffett felt (or certainly wrote about) when he was first getting started.

When I read about some of his more modern 'escapades' I get a nasty crap in my stomach,...like when one of your heroes goes over to the dark side....shame.

But I still think it would be a challenge to design a better vessel for him than that Surfari 44. And I have a few clients that might discover that a smaller, more agile, shallow draft, weekender catamaran might be just what they are looking for in lieu of a big cruising cat.
I've just got to myself rejuvenated to start such a project.

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Now tell us how Don Ho ruined Hawaii, The Beach Boys spoiled California and Bruce Springsteen destroyed the Jersey shore.

 

Or just HTFU.

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Well I have to agree with a lot of this new property/resort development crap. I'm 74 and sure glad I grew up in that era of the 50's, 60's, 70's.

 

The kids today don't know what they missed !!

 

Ya shudda bin here last week.

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Lots of people prefer huge cruise ships and Disneylands, eating at national franchises. Some of us prefer the laid back, the eclectic and the unusual. As someone who has grown up on the Gulf Coast it doesn't make me happy to see what the Tillman Fertittas do on the way to becoming billionaires.

 

And no, I don't need to HTFU, I need to point out that not everything is progress.

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Lots of people prefer huge cruise ships and Disneylands, eating at national franchises. Some of us prefer the laid back, the eclectic and the unusual. As someone who has grown up on the Gulf Coast it doesn't make me happy to see what the Tillman Fertittas do on the way to becoming billionaires.

 

And no, I don't need to HTFU, I need to point out that not everything is progress.

Many things done in the name of progress are really done for profit, and no other reason. Progress just sounds better.

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Well I have to agree with a lot of this new property/resort development crap. I'm 74 and sure glad I grew up in that era of the 50's, 60's, 70's.

 

The kids today don't know what they missed !!

 

Ya shudda bin here last week.

 

Well played. ...and the perfect wave of Cape St. Francis.

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Since this mutated into what is wrong with the Gulf Coast, a few years ago I had a day off work in Tallahassee, so a buddy and I took off westbound to explore some Florida towns and look for a good meal. Well far from being either funky fishing towns or tourist towns, it was basically the real life version of a zombie movie. The only people left in these places seemed to be hollow eyed meth addicts stumbling from one Dollar General to another :o

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I have a lot of foggy yet pleasant childhood memories from the middle to late 70's of storms, at least 1 hurricane, beaches, hobie cats, and cheap bags of gulf shrimp filled cookouts from Galveston on down through Corpus Christi. There was no escape from Buffet's tunes, and east Texas was a much different place during this time. My last visit to that area found me sitting in the middle of Landry's tourist hell in both Kemah and Galveston, still looking for some of the old flavor, and sure as hell not finding any. What a goddamned travesty this whole area has become.

 

That laid back, Caribbean and Creole flavored lifestyle that was known to the US gulf states is just gone, ain't it. It's just all fucking long gone. And this CMT-minimum-wage-apartment-dwelling-inbred-redneck abomination that's half sport fisher, half sailboat with a pickup truck tailgate is just another nail in the coffin from the greedy sunzabitches that exploited, polluted, and all 'round ruined life in the Gulf States. These fuckers like Buffet and the trademarked corporate sharks that swim in his wake have shit on and sold out every stretch of land and beach from Brownsville to Key West. Despite pockets of ultra luxury real estate, all the towns and cities around them on the gulf are now some of the poorest, least educated, and most polluted backwaters filled with human misery as you can find anywhere on the planet. What should have been America's riviera and gateway to the Caribbean and nicer parts of Mexico is just a lifeless, brown, polluted oil field ruled by drug traffickers and corporate waterways. So yeah. Fuck their shitty JB lifestyle luxo yacht, fuck their property development companies, fuck their event promoters, fuck those oil companies, fuck Landrys, fuck Houston and their coca-cola cowboy politics, fuck him, and fuck all that greedy ass coattail riders that have profited from the whole stinkin' mess.

 

I need a drink.

Try 3!!! It's just a boat!!! :lol:

 

I do hear you it sucks when once cool interesting towns get over run with fancy resorts and chain restaurants.

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The zenmaster has a real hard time w/ the euro styling, or as Mr. Perry says ewee! The Captain tries to abide but sometimes it is f'ing hard not to run away screaming.

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I'll say.

 

Denni:

" he has no musical talent whatsoever after listening to his boring, mundane country music about boats and alcohol."

 

Your comments on the quality of Buffet's music are very ignorant.

I am not a fan but I can recognize his gift.

You, my friend, have either a tin ear or zero understanding of music and poetry.

 

I am not a John Adams fan but I can recognize the skill and talent he pours into his music.

 

Oh the Horror, Dissing Jimmy? Ha, Ha, Ha...

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Give me some alternatives - about to spend a few weeks sailing around Grenada and have become "woke" about the Buffett empire. The Jack Johnson style is a bit too somnolent. Or soporific. Country is NOT an option. Ever.

 

Point me at some new tunes! TIA.

 

That being said, the most fun concert we aver attended was JB at Red Rocks, before he ended up with some record company that had their own horrible venue at Fiddler's Green in Denver. A friend of ours was the Luckiest Person on Earth, proven time and time again, and won yet another radio contest with 4 front-row seats at a JB concert; we had by then mastered the climbing backpack "layer of sanitary napkins" ruse to hide our primo tropical drink arsenal. Was a memorable show.

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John butler trio goes alright, cat empire, beautiful girls. Seasick Steve for something a bit odd but enjoyable

Later in the night, a bit of fat Freddy's drop or salmonella dub usually goes down a treat if you have a bit of bass in your speakers.

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He is an interesting artist. I saw him at a festival once, he bought out his one string junkyard guitar, played a surprisingly complex tune on it.

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Well, I think I consigned my Sea Sick Steve LP's to the garage. They were quirky but did not hold my attention.

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14 minutes ago, SecondWindNC said:

She's outta the shed.

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Looks more like out of the closet.

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33 minutes ago, SecondWindNC said:

She's outta the shed.

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Is the keel retracted?

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There's an old expression, 'It ain't noise if I'm the one making it'. 

Much like his shirts, they might look garish from someone else's perspective, but to the one wearing it, if it gives him more of a charge than his Marguerita, than so be it. This boat probably fulfills the intended purpose quite well, and if it don't look great from an onlookers perspective, I'm sure the view looks great from the cockpit or the flat sole diving platform.

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That's my wife's philosophy on the minivan. It only looks ugly from the outside. On the inside, the kids are physically separated and the stereo sounds great.

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2 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Looks more like out of the closet.

that is disturbingly accurate

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All those years of standing in front of speaker stacks must have damaged his eyesight...

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I like the looks of the hull from this perspective.  It helps that the topsides are my favorite hull color (excepting bright wood). The cabin trunk/pilot house/hard dodger/bimini/wrap-around powerboat doghouse thing, however, would be a contender for top billing in the ugly dodger thread.

I haven't stayed in touch with this thread; is that a spray rail above the boot-top forward?

I just finished a visit to the thread about the Russian billionaire's ugliest sailboat in the world thread.  Given that perspective, I'm happy to see Mr. Buffet spend his money on this boat.  I think I could enjoy watching it sail by, if I didn't spend time studying the dog/pilot house thing as it did so.

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I rather like it.  It is sort of a monomaran.  Looks like it even has the potential to sail well.

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The only good thing about that boats appearance is that it is not remotely as ugly as the Russian oligarchs gigantic monstrosity

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I agree that the house is a bit much, but besides that I like it!

It's not ugly compared to what lots of people accept as a boat these days and at least it's not the same old shit we saw yesterday and the day before that. The hull shape is pretty sweet actually.

What kind of boat "should" Jimmy Buffet have? I admire him for having a relatively conservative sailboat instead of a mega yacht, which I'm sure he could afford. 

 

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Well, at least this one made it out of the shed before the owner lost interest,,,

 

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11 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Sometimes a Naval Architect has to say no!

The boat was designed before Jimmy got interested. It's a scaled back Fontaine "Surfari."

The guy clearly likes a wide variety of toys. Here's a more traditional craft for a son of a son of a sailor. I crossed wakes with him off of Cuttyhunk as he was making his way to Nantucket, where he is pictured here.

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I know I'm swimming up-current here, but I think it looks fine. In fact, it looks a lot better than most of the new production designs from Beneteau, et al. I assume the sheer is straight and only looks slightly reversed due to the low point of view. I can understand that most people would want a more conventionally shaped pilothouse, but I don't think this one looks terrible. 

I don't like the color above the sheer, though. 

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For now I am happy with my conventional sloop, but as I get older the appeal for a deck salon will increase. The added benefit of protection from weather in PNW is obvious, and I really like the idea of the main interior space having lots of light and outward visibility while seated. The problem is I have not seen any in the 35 ft range that look good. A serius ds 350 is about the best, but I agree with Semi that Buffet's is not bad and no better or worse than a Moody.

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I get the appeal of a DS but for the PNW, it seems best to me to go full pilothouse. If/when I ever do a custom it'll be a PH with an unstayed rig and nice swim step. Something like an updated Tanton 43. 

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What's unique to me about the Fontaine design is the "all one level" idea.

This gives rise to some unusual aesthetics, but to me this represents creative thinking which results in a design that's practical for the sailing for which it's intended.

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Blech, looks way too boring to be appealing to me. Wouldn't want that tiny cockpit with endboom sheeting.. I like the traditional look to a sailboat. Odd sheers, wraparound glass and stubby ends make for lots of ugly looking boats for sale in 10 years. I could pick out ugly boats from the past 50 years that someone bought as beautiful and only a few would be acceptable to the masses. 

Also, back 30 years and so many sportfishers had wraparound glass. Spent many days removing and 'glassing over the openings of those hot black windows on the east coast. They got unbearably hot...

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12 hours ago, Russell Brown said:

I agree that the house is a bit much, but besides that I like it!

It's not ugly compared to what lots of people accept as a boat these days and at least it's not the same old shit we saw yesterday and the day before that. The hull shape is pretty sweet actually.

What kind of boat "should" Jimmy Buffet have? I admire him for having a relatively conservative sailboat instead of a mega yacht, which I'm sure he could afford. 

 

+1 It's bold, the house is probably a bit taller than it needs to be but at least he's got enough imagination to specify something according to his needs rather than mimic old boats.

1 hour ago, Sail4beer said:

Blech, looks way too boring to be appealing to me. Wouldn't want that tiny cockpit with endboom sheeting..

What's wrong with being able to shape the main effortlessly?

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JB raced in the very first KWRW in a Herreshoff replica...I think it was an Alerion? Nicely built and finished wood hull, all Harken deck gear, and Kevlar laminate sails. They weren't too fast, but the boat at least looked good. 

Current boat has some interesting features making it a decent party barge for protected waters, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired in the aesthetics department. I think he could have done better...using the russian oligarchs boat as a standard is setting the bar extremely low. 

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22 minutes ago, kdh said:

Yes, it was an Alerion. Gorgeous boats.

 

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IIRC they were in same class as us. I was on a 3/4-tonner in PHRF. We may have almost lapped them in a couple races. It really was a gorgeous boat, and they seemed to be enjoying themselves. JB was def on board, IDK if he was helming during the races or who his crew were. This was in '88.

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2 hours ago, Rasputin22 said:

Russ,

     Here is the flip side of Jimmy's taste in yachts.

Image result for jimmy buffett yacht continental drifter iii

 

 

One of ours.  Bought used and since sold.  I think he would like to have more of an "island trader" style boat if he bought another large yacht.

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IMO the best looking boat he's owned was that biggish Luders clipper.

Gorgeous boat.

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8 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

 

Also, back 30 years and so many sportfishers had wraparound glass. Spent many days removing and 'glassing over the openings of those hot black windows on the east coast. They got unbearably hot...

There are films available that dramatically reduce heat inside while retaining visibility. Look into some of the 3m ones, they are expensive but they are great. Gin palace catamarans have similar window styles

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On 10/9/2017 at 9:41 PM, Russell Brown said:

I agree that the house is a bit much, but besides that I like it!

It's not ugly compared to what lots of people accept as a boat these days and at least it's not the same old shit we saw yesterday and the day before that. The hull shape is pretty sweet actually.

What kind of boat "should" Jimmy Buffet have? I admire him for having a relatively conservative sailboat instead of a mega yacht, which I'm sure he could afford. 

 

I completely agree. It seems well-targeted for our imagined design brief, it's not a monstrosity, and I bet it sails well.

It's not an RTW cruiser, so what? Sail when it's nice, fish a lot, and if a squall or system threatens, "beat it" on home. Stay aboard for a weekend. Lots of cold beer (but please no Landshark or Corona!).

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10 hours ago, kdh said:

Yes, it was an Alerion. Gorgeous boats.

 

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And sadly, the molds will be available at auction 11/11 when the US Watercraft assets go on the block. As will those of numerous J/Boats, Farrs and a bunch of powerboats. Damn - I learned on a J/24 back in the day.

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6 hours ago, rattus32 said:

And sadly, the molds will be available at auction 11/11 when the US Watercraft assets go on the block. As will those of numerous J/Boats, Farrs and a bunch of powerboats. Damn - I learned on a J/24 back in the day.

Sad, but that's a real Alerion a wood Herreshoff-designed boat.

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On 8/23/2016 at 12:07 PM, SloopJonB said:

Any smart person hires people who are better than they are.

Only insecure people have to be the "smartest guy in the room".

I was just reading back thru this subject thread, and ran across this quote.  ......Hmmmm, who does that remind you of these days?

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Been away from the boating scene for the last year, so never did put together some ideas for an alternative design for him. That might have been a fun exercise. Just burned out on  boating subjects at the moment.
 

But I did find that new DynaRig vessel interesting, particularly as I was so intrigued with Maltese Falcon's development.
DynaRig images

Black Pearl
https://www.superyachttimes.com/yacht-news/exclusive-oceanco-launches-106m-sailing-yacht-y712

https://yachtemoceans.com/black-pearl-oceanco/
 

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On 11/22/2015 at 8:21 AM, ProaSailor said:

This boat looks fun to me, for someone who has owned boats before, knows weather and sea states and what he wants in living aboard. I would want a hatch board or two that could protect half the open area from boarding seas:
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Surfari 44 by Friendship Yacht Company
http://www.friendshipyachtcompany.com/our-yachts/new-surfari-44/surfari-44/surfari-44-photo-gallery/

SPECIFICATION AND STANDARD EQUIPMENT LIST
http://www.friendshipyachtcompany.com/assets/Uploads/Surfari-44-Spec-Equip-2015.pdf

Friendship Yacht Co. Innovates 44’ Indoor/Outdoor Living Platform for Water Sports Enthusiasts
http://www.pressure-drop.us/forums/content.php?5676-Jimmy-Buffetts-Surf-Safari-Boat

 

Derived from the Surfari 53: http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/surfari-53-ted-fontaines-bold-new-design

surfari53-stern.jpg

 

I liked this boat two years ago and still do.  Inspiring.   ;)

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19 hours ago, kdh said:

Sad, but that's a real Alerion a wood Herreshoff-designed boat.

Agreed - but the fiberglass ones are pretty nice too.

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Bring this thread back for a short interlude.

Saw Jimmy at USNA last week.  Lots of pics of his "ugly" boat featured on the concert video and he talked about about how he loves sailing it.  Is reportedly cruising up through the Chesapeake this summer.

We like the man a lot as he does much for the Navy.  And hey, I think its the only concert my wife and I can go to and we can both sing along to every song.  And even our kids know most... OK some.  So he has that going for him!

He truly was the 12 volt man... at least on this night... but you had to be there to understand that.  Great night!!

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Maybe you're a  bitter little bigot? You don't like the color? You don't like native Americans? You just ran out of money at the day drinking bar? Ha.

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6 hours ago, sshow bob said:

I agree - it looks like a great place to spend time.

Be a comfortable delivery ....................

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On 9/17/2018 at 6:55 PM, lasal said:

I know Onne van der Wal is a well know marine photographer, but I am questioning this 'photo'. To me the people in the photo just look too small for the size of the vessel?

Is this really a true photo??
Is this Buffett's boat specifically?? (wasn't his suppose to be one of the first built of this series??
 

I still find the draft of this vessel unacceptable for the type of fishing Buffett enjoys the most.

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On 11/18/2015 at 7:48 PM, Jammer Six said:

 

It isn't as bad as house bands covering Stairway To Heaven, though.

Or Freebird...... Sheesh.

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On 9/2/2016 at 3:39 PM, valis said:

 

I spoke with Thumper at PSC last week, for advice on a bilge pump replacement, and to order some door latches. He was extremely helpful and we chatted for a bit about the boats and the business. I ended up with a pretty good feeling about it. Agreed, their web presence is marginal. By the way, on their website my boat is featured prominently in the PSC 44 photos.

Beautiful boat, Valis.

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Web presence at PSC? Forget about that! 

     I call the company the 'Geographically Challenged Pacific Seacraft Corporation'.

     I got to see the Buffet sloop at the Newport Boat Show last week. No mention of Buffett unless you asked. No mention of PSC for that matter. After a bit of probing I got a few hints of the turmoil towards the end of the build some of which has been mentioned here. 

    The skipper was cool but the broker/staff on board was the most hostile/unwelcoming bunch I saw at the whole show except for the Gunboat booth and Peter Johnstone himself who was hawking Alerions! Can't believe he would even show his face at the show. 

    Surfari looked pretty ho-hum in person and I thought Jimmy was a more sophisticated boat owner judging by his prior boats. It was stuffed all the way up next to the parking lot right next to the TFT 10 meter trimaran and behind an awesome HH66 so got pretty much overlooked. I think it did get chosen as Boat of the Show for some category but that doesn't mean much and seems to be rigged. The other winner was the Beneteau Figaro which with its Dali foils looked like as far from mainstream market as one could get. Ted Fountaine was onboard the SURFARI but looked like he had a winch handle stuck up his ass and was probably the most unapproachable spokesman at the whole show. Funny to contrast the SURFARI to his Friendship 40 sloop. 

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@Rasputin22   ... that's yet another glorious post from you which makes me feel a famine-like hunger for your book.

If you die without writing it, I think I'll dig you up and kill you all over again ;) 

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17 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said:

Web presence at PSC? Forget about that! 

     I call the company the 'Geographically Challenged Pacific Seacraft Corporation'.

     I got to see the Buffet sloop at the Newport Boat Show last week. No mention of Buffett unless you asked. No mention of PSC for that matter. After a bit of probing I got a few hints of the turmoil towards the end of the build some of which has been mentioned here. 

    The skipper was cool but the broker/staff on board was the most hostile/unwelcoming bunch I saw at the whole show except for the Gunboat booth and Peter Johnstone himself who was hawking Alerions! Can't believe he would even show his face at the show. 

 

Were any of these hostile folks PSC employees, or was this just a jerk broker?  The Buffet sloop is definitely not to my taste, but it *is* a custom design that he brought to PSC, so I'm not going to hold the styling against PSC. Was the build-quality OK?   I wonder if they are actually selling any of their traditional Crealock designs?  I'm only asking because I hope PSC stays in business.

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44 minutes ago, woahboy said:

Beautiful boat, Valis.

Thank you!  I'm going to agree with you on that...

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2 minutes ago, valis said:

Were any of these hostile folks PSC employees, or was this just a jerk broker?  The Buffet sloop is definitely not to my taste, but it *is* a custom design that he brought to PSC, so I'm not going to hold the styling against PSC. Was the build-quality OK?   I wonder if they are actually selling any of their traditional Crealock designs?  I'm only asking because I hope PSC stays in business.

Nobody from PSC that I could see, if fact there didn't seem to be any mention of PSC at all, just a Ted Fontaine dog and pony show. I asked the skipper about PSC and and he sort of hemmed and hawed on that subject. I then mentioned that I knew the contractor that had actually built the hull a couple blocks down the road from PSC and he then sort of went into the woes at PSC and the changes and time and cost issues that eventually led to the boat having final fitout done down in Florida. PSC just takes FOREVER on anything. Build quality looked great as always from Thumper and the gang. The tailgate looked like it was pretty complicated and there were no fighting chairs evident and the 'sportfisher' nature of the design was sort of ignored. I wanted to know more about the saildrives and the bulbed fin keel but like I said it was not a very friendly bunch. 

    I guess much of my questioning of PSC is the fact that the lovely CATARI is apparently still at their shop and has yet to be finished and launched. That could be more of lack of continuity and interest from the owner but after 5 years I'm not surprised. I visited the CATARI shortly after the hull and deck were molded and the bulkheads and interior mockup were going in. That was the morning of the Boston Marathon bombing! The bulkheads and rudder were built by the same contractor that I believe built the SURFARI hull. I did happen to see Buffets old DELTA moto