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looks like too much rear deck to be sidewinder

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1 hour ago, WCB said:

This is a bit of a find I suppose but more of a, What Is It?  Found this on Ebay for $500 starting.  I thought it looked a little like a US1 but then that idea faded.

What is it on Ebay?

Looks like a sidewinder. compare to an advertised sidewinder:

 

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/d/mfg-sidewinder-16/6589947093.html

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1 hour ago, Alan Crawford said:

An interesting wooden dinghy in Northwest Montana. The add says the "keel" is missing; I think they mean daggerboard.

https://kalispell.craigslist.org/boa/d/1957-richardson-aqua-craft/6602675120.html

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If I just had a 7 acre pond, I would be on that one. Would need a batwing sail though.

 

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On 6/18/2018 at 7:07 PM, WCB said:

Very similar but the aft deck is very different...  We need the master...Gouv! 

Hey, I'm in Raleigh! 

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On 6/18/2018 at 7:07 PM, WCB said:

Very similar but the aft deck is very different...  We need the master...Gouv! 

that's a sidewinder  I just sold one a few weeks ago for $250 with trailer.  Man is that a heavy mast!

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I would but too late, but not too late to drool...

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An MX Ray near Nashville, TN. This one may be a bit expensive (asking $2300) but when you read the description ("can run over 30 mph" and "fastest single handed sail boat ever") maybe that's a good price :unsure:! The boat does look to be in good shape.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mx-ray-the-fastest-single/6616270188.html

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The boat Is not a Sidewinder. It is a Whip

same builder

incredibly Fast Hull with incredibly stupid rigging and sails. 

 

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9 hours ago, Satan Himself said:

The boat Is not a Sidewinder. It is a Whip

same builder

incredibly Fast Hull with incredibly stupid rigging and sails. 

 

Ah ha, I knew it! The hull shape does look similar but the length at 17' can't be the same (though some ads are often wrong) and that aft deck is all different.  Thanks Satan! Never thought I'd say that...

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The Whip has that weird hollow flare in the topsides about 3-4' feet back from the bow. Odd that it doesn't show up in any of the ad images (viewing on my phone, anyway)

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10 hours ago, Satan Himself said:

The boat Is not a Sidewinder. It is a Whip

same builder

incredibly Fast Hull with incredibly stupid rigging and sails. 

 

I just went back to the auction and either I missed that it was called a Whip or they updated the listing.  Anyways...it's there now.

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19 hours ago, Alan Crawford said:

An MX Ray near Nashville, TN. This one may be a bit expensive (asking $2300) but when you read the description ("can run over 30 mph" and "fastest single handed sail boat ever") maybe that's a good price :unsure:! The boat does look to be in good shape.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mx-ray-the-fastest-single/6616270188.html

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AND ANOTHER 1000 NEEDED TO MAKE IT SAILABLE

 

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2 hours ago, ortegakid said:

AND ANOTHER 1000 NEEDED TO MAKE IT SAILABLE

 

BUT WITH A MODERN SQUARE TOP.... MIGHT HAVE TO GET ONE AGAIN...

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:34 AM, WCB said:

A Buccaneer for $600 in Salt Lake City.  I know there are Buc fans here!

Salty Buccaneer

Of all ironies I was just down in Salt Lake City today to pick up a few things for Park City Sailing and I passed this Buccaneer headed off to a new home. Talk about small world!

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I can't let this one go unmentioned either.  I'd like to horde it for myself but it's a bit far away in Florida.  A 2009 A-Class Cat that started at $99 and is at $520 now with three days left.  Somebody is going to get a deal even if it was hit by lightning and repaired.  

2009 A Class Cat on Ebay

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2 hours ago, WCB said:

I can't let this one go unmentioned either.  I'd like to horde it for myself but it's a bit far away in Florida.  A 2009 A-Class Cat that started at $99 and is at $520 now with three days left.  Somebody is going to get a deal even if it was hit by lightning and repaired.  

2009 A Class Cat on Ebay

The stains on the hull are a tad interesting in the last few pics. The trailer alone is worth high dollar! *edit not included

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29 minutes ago, Ross said:

The stains on the hull are a tad interesting in the last few pics. The trailer alone is worth high dollar! *edit not included

True...it may need some follow up repairs but it would still be fast.

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7 hours ago, WCB said:

But apparently you have to have eaten at a local restaurant in order to buy the boats...kinda funny and odd at the same time.

No need to eat or even visit the restaurants in the add, just requested a mention of them in the response to filter out bots/spammers.

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2 hours ago, KC375 said:

No need to eat or even visit the restaurants in the add, just requested a mention of them in the response to filter out bots/spammers.

 

Got it...thanks. Was just pointing out how silly it was.

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2 hours ago, WCB said:

Got it...thanks. Was just pointing out how silly it was.

Because it's guv's own Craigslist ad.

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11 minutes ago, See Level said:

Because it's guv's own Craigslist ad.

That explains a lot...

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I still got “do you still have this item?”

and

”very interested. Please send pictures.”

the boats are not mine. I am stuck with them

because a friend quit sailing under bad circumstances and I am trying to get him what I consider to be fair $$$

 

i also have a Laser night am selling  for an estate. I took it to KO Sailing to sell so I would not be involved  in deciding a price 

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On 6/22/2018 at 10:38 AM, Dex Sawash said:

The Whip has that weird hollow flare in the topsides about 3-4' feet back from the bow. Odd that it doesn't show up in any of the ad images (viewing on my phone, anyway)

It has what?? 

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6 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

It has what?? 

Talking about this hollow in topsides, looking at pics it doesnt show up from every angle.

I drew the arrow a bit low but wasn't arsed to do it over.

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It is some sort of illusion. The entire hull is convex at any given point. 

It really is too bad the folks at Playcraft Charger  preferred bulldozing the molds to letting me buy them 

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On 7/16/2018 at 4:45 AM, Dex Sawash said:

Talking about this hollow in topsides, looking at pics it doesnt show up from every angle.

I drew the arrow a bit low but wasn't arsed to do it over.

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Probably due to the boat having a fairly plumb bow and a lot of flair immediately aft of the stem, convex in the y axis bur concave in the x axis, quite common on more boats than you would realize.

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8 hours ago, WCB said:

A $695 Vanguard 15 on Ebay with no bids and no reserve.  Needs a little work but well worth the price I think.

$695 Vanguard 15 on Ebay

Like the loose luffed main, that must work a treat! 

Why did the class collapse, I thought it was well supported a few years ago? Seems it fits perfectly into a gap that is now a void.

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9 minutes ago, Major Tom said:

Like the loose luffed main, that must work a treat! 

Why did the class collapse, I thought it was well supported a few years ago? Seems it fits perfectly into a gap that is now a void.

The guys who bought the company have deliberately suffocated the class by artfully refusing to build hulls while somehow keeping the build rights. I'd build them in a heartbeat if I could. There isn't the demand that there once was, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't pent up a good deal since they were last built about a decade ago. Quite similar to your sonnet in a way.

DRC

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Cheers Dave, is there no way of doing a Torch type scenario with a different layup, at the end of the day, if it makes a boat that is 0.1% faster that is almost irrelevant as a brand new boat should always be a bit quicker than a 20 yr old one.

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17 hours ago, WCB said:

A $695 Vanguard 15 on Ebay with no bids and no reserve.  Needs a little work but well worth the price I think.

$695 Vanguard 15 on Ebay

+1 Me too. Maybe I should drive over and grab it...3 hours from me, but still proving a point to self with current rig.

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6 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

Maybe Rastagar has huge amounts of RS stock. 

 

He must, or he has a vendetta against somebody in the sailing industry.  It's unreal what he's doing.

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Well come people are just asshats...it's the water.

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Price reduced.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/d/18-footer/6671892781.html

 

 

 

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Not who I thought it was, never mind, it is, is Big D, and Celeste Pizza, an Auz18

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1 hour ago, WCB said:

Not sure if this FD was posted before but a 1988 Mader for $750 seems like a good way to go...

1988 Mader Flying Dutchman

oh man that's a little tempting

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8 hours ago, dgmckim said:

oh man that's a little tempting

That's what I was thinking...

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23 hours ago, WCB said:

Not sure if this FD was posted before but a 1988 Mader for $750 seems like a good way to go...

1988 Mader Flying Dutchman

Quote from the ad- "Nice Sail Boat to enjoy with family or friends."

The few FD's I have been on demand quite a bit more skill and experience out of the "family or friends" than most other boats.   It would be more like torture for the average neophyte.

- Stumbling

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Oh come on, my 82 year old father in law is my foredeck, he loves it.

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1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said:

Quote from the ad- "Nice Sail Boat to enjoy with family or friends."

The few FD's I have been on demand quite a bit more skill and experience out of the "family or friends" than most other boats.   It would be more like torture for the average neophyte.

- Stumbling

Stumbling +1. How people "un-like" sailing, STM.

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2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Yeah but once you get the Lightning, you don't need the ferry to get back...... can that save you any money?

FB- Doug

It's an easy sail from Vineyard Haven to Falmouth(after you tow it from Edgartown to VH) but you'd still want the trailer waiting for you back on the mainland.  

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6 hours ago, Great Red Shark said:

That is a serious opportunity for somebody !

Agree. I would almost make the drive for that boat

FB- Doug

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Really? Why not a decent Finn or even RS version? 

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20 minutes ago, BobBill said:

Really? Why not a decent Finn or even RS version? 

Finn? No thanks. Fun but punishing.

There's a bunch of new singlehanders out, the one I'm most tempted by is the VX Evo, because the VX boats I've already seen are superb. If there were a class of a y of them nearby I'd be all over it

The Hadron has a bunch of advanced features plus it s beautiful...... a d it s <$3k

FB- Doug

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Doug, I dig. Never thought Finn was "punishing," and forgive me, Hadron is new for me and appears to resemble a RS boat, though I cannot say which class. Have to give Hadron more attention....

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1 hour ago, Jclmontana said:

Hi: Can anyone help identify this boat? It is listed on CL for $400 in Wenatchee, WA. 

Thanks

https://wenatchee.craigslist.org/boa/d/sail-boat-trailer/6666270592.html

 

 

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Sidewinder? If so, check out some other quotes / opinions on this thread.

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It could be a dreaded, legendary Sidewinder - metal plate rudder (and c-board), low freeboard, aluminum shear clamp - if it weighs about 5 times what it should,  then you've got a 'winder.

 

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More pics...? Could be Sidewinder, but one of a dozen others. I know I have seen the rudder/tiller combo in past...I first thought a Banshee...but not proper rudder set.

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4 hours ago, BobBill said:

Doug, I dig. Never thought Finn was "punishing," and forgive me, Hadron is new for me and appears to resemble a RS boat, though I cannot say which class. Have to give Hadron more attention....

Don't get me wrong, the Finn is a great boat in many ways. It's lots of fun to sail but takes some muscle and some contortion to make it go. My experiences in a Finn were decades ago but I remember the aches it left me with. Don't wanna go there again even if Mrs Steam would let me

The Hadron  is kind of an offshoot of the Merlin-Rocket, I think. I'm kinda surprised there's any in the U.S.

FB- Doug

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43 minutes ago, BobBill said:

More pics...? Could be Sidewinder, but one of a dozen others. I know I have seen the rudder/tiller combo in past...I first thought a Banshee...but not proper rudder set.

Only picture on the ad. Seller was unresponsive to my inquiry seeking more info. Trying to decide if this boat is worth bothering with.

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36 minutes ago, Jclmontana said:

Only picture on the ad. Seller was unresponsive to my inquiry seeking more info. Trying to decide if this boat is worth bothering with.

Probably not. What's your budget and experience? That Hadron H1 near Seattle looks really nice! As they say, there are many more fish in the sea....

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