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Because of complications with wind speed accuracies during the race, we will be using the wind speed just before the start to adjust ratings. Since we didn't have any recorded wind speeds for AYC, we used the standard Portsmouth numbers. We will continue to do this if there are no wind speeds available. If the speeds were as Derek describes, we'd score under Beaufort 2-3.

 

J-18: 86.5

Weta: ?? Not listed

Harpoon: 96.7

IC: 79.4

420: 100.0

Sunfish: 100.4

 

I'm confused as to where a rating of 76.0 came from for the IC. The US Sailing data shows 79.1

 

In the UK (land of handicap racing), the AC rating is 78.7% of the 420's, IC is 80.8% of the 420's and the Weta is 85.9% of the 420's. So if you are all OK with the 420 rating, this might be helpful in establishing handicaps. Looks like your IC rating isn't far off - pretty much right in the middle of the AC/IC.

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The 420 rating has it's own issues, as there is no adjustment for a spinnaker, traps, etc. But I suspect it's probably pretty accurate for a regular 420 and then the percent theory is still valid?

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The reason I picked the 420 is simply because it seemed to be the only boat in this thread that has a Portsmouth rating in the UK. The 420's there would have trapezes and spinnakers. You may want to Google RYA Portsmouth Yardstick List 2015 and see if there are other boats that race there that are in your fleet. Then you can go crazy running numbers! Note the number I got for the Weta was from the UK Weta site.

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The reason I picked the 420 is simply because it seemed to be the only boat in this thread that has a Portsmouth rating in the UK. The 420's there would have trapezes and spinnakers. You may want to Google RYA Portsmouth Yardstick List 2015 and see if there are other boats that race there that are in your fleet. Then you can go crazy running numbers! Note the number I got for the Weta was from the UK Weta site.

And -PS- I am only guessing you can run a straight line percentage comparison. I can't see why not, but perhaps a handicap expert in the UK can chime in.

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Just a heads-up that the Florida Mug Race registration is open.

About 40 miles down the St. Johns River. One start with 100+ boats from Sunfish to big foiling cats.

International Canoes are welcomed to enter, just as any other sailing vessel.

(Paddling canoes with a sail stuck on are still restricted.)

I'm sailing in the non-spinnaker class this year, so I hope it is an AC that races!

 

Dave Ellis

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I've done the mug Race several times, in both keel boats and cats. Great fun and a great pursuit style race downstream on the St Johns river. The Rudder Club does a great job with this race. But if you're looking to win you better bring your "A" game as the boys from Miami on the RC are tough to beat.

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Looks like the CYC Spring Fling regatta might get a demo day for the new foiling Laser by Sydney, Australia's Peter Stephenson. He will sail with us in Portsmouth. I am trying to convince John Bartlett to show up with his Moth.

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I want a go!, always wanted a set, just too expensive.

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And now, working today, just found out have to go to a funeral manana, so all that work getting it changed out the window. Hope all have a great time, guess I'll see ya at Conroe! Apologize to Stillhouse peeps for me and thank them for all.

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Looks like it will be an awesome day at 15-20, but my elbow can't yet handle that much sheeting. Still burns when I use it. And I'm on an anti-inflammatory, so I can't even drink.

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Great day today! Lots of breeze! Sorry to dash at the end and not get to talk with everyone, but the 1 month old is a fairly valid reason I think. Thanks for the fun race. The bridge too far seemed much closer this year.

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Bridge Too Far results:

 

Skipper Boat Raw Corrected

 

1 John Luzius Weta 2:03:35 2:37:26 (new course record)

2 Dave Kleinman Weta 2:24:15 3:03:45

3 Mike Lindstrom Flying Scot 2:44:47 3:03:55

4 Jenny Loehlin Harpoon 2:59:30 3:06:59

5 Claire McDonald J-18 2:46:22 3:12:33

6 Max / Adam J-18 3:25:05 3:57:18

7 Rehage Weta 3:25:38 4:21:57

 

Those who did not attend will be scored 9.

 

Great day, a little cool, a little (lot) gusty but it made for a great race especially when compared to last year. Luzius did a horizon job on the fleet and finished 20 minutes ahead of second place. We did not feel very comfortable flying the kite because of the incredible shifts, which hurt us and the J-18s but planed frequently anyway. The fleet would stretch out in some areas and then come back together at the tougher sections. As we were approaching the boat ramp near the bridge, John was coming out the other way. But that's the last we saw him.

 

If you weren't there, you missed a good one.

 

Next up: Conroe April 9 & 10; first two day event of the year. See you all there.

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SORRY, GLAD I missed it, would have been serious freezing cold swimming time for me, hate north wind. See y'all at CYC!

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Wind speed was in the high teens to low twenties gusting to near 30 at times. The fleet was no match for the Wetas. In higher winds in anything but a beat, the Wetas speed is much more able to absorb the cranking gusts that a mono doing 8 knots. This race was a reach and then a reach, there and back. A well sailed IC / AC would have been fun to watch. John was smoking fast, literally. He passed us about five minutes after the start and it felt like we were tied to the dock.

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Agree with Mike. I'd guess 15-20 with some big gusts. It sure was cool watching the Wetas zoom.

 

The angles were just a little too steep for us to set our spinnaker. If the water hadn't been so cold we may have tried it, but we just kept it in the bag the entire time except the first 15 minutes or so. Sure was a fun 15 minutes!

 

Wind direction was real interesting. I'm not sure if it moved or it was the twists in the river, but interesting angles for sure. I was surprised we didn't get more opportunity to set the spinnaker with a safe downwind angle. Just fast reaches most of the time.

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SO HAPPY NOT THERE. Sorry, but my boat is impossible in 30.

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Sounds like exciting conditions. It's fun to hear the story details, like the Wetas burning up the course.

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Just to clarify the "fleet was no match for the wetas" comment.

 

One finished first, one weta finished second beating third by 10 seconds, and one weta was dfl

 

I believe the reason I did so well was the two years worth of sit ups I've been doing that allows the ability to hike off the back corners of the amas, hence driving the boat much harder. It's a gamble that you sometimes lose, ending with a pitch pole capsize due to the hotter angle in which lift is decreased thru the bowsprit generated by the reacher. It can lead to a capsize faster than I can react sometimes.

 

But it paid off big time with one eye always upwind with the reacher flying. I flew it much more than the other wetas. I also pre-sailed the course a month ago with a higher north wind, and knew what to expect with the super shifty conditions.

 

I put the time and effort into sailing as hard as I could and truly believe the weta PN is to high for wind over 20+ kts. But is it fair for one sailors results to dictate a ratings change? Heck if I know!

 

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Great pic! Unnerstand how much fun skiffing is, and Crump does it well! Almost makes me want my MX back, oh, but never mind, you have to sail to windward in some races!

Congrats to all, who are braver and insaner sailors than I.

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And it would have been fun to hear of a pursuit event, like before, slowest boat starts first all others have to catch, makes for a great finish.

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Pursuit is in the works for one of the races this year. We are all just glad to get out of the marina at BTF without ragging our sails. Would have been tough to accommodate with the wind pipe dumping right in the harbor basin. The beat into the finish was the toughest part of the whole race. The wind was nuking there and changed directions by 100 degrees in 100 feet. John was tough enough out front, can only imagine if you gave him a rabbit or several.

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Yea, heard all about it, so glad wasn't there. Hope all are at CYC, see ya soon.

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Correction: "The fleet was no match for the Weta sailed by John Luzius".

 

Yes that is correct! I was pooping in my pants on the way back across the main basin. These huge gust would pile in and stay there and I was trying NOT to go dead down wind. It's suicidal in those conditions. So I kept heading up for shore in order not to flip. In fact, I was trying to slow the fuk down. Finally made it where I could head up and towards the marina and knew I wouldn't go swimming by that point. John has work his butt off to get into shape so he just muscles the boat thru whatever happens.

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Can I come to cyc with my force5, just to spectate and hang out with you guys? I don't have money to race :-/

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Note that the Sailing Instructions for the Mug Race are now online. Rudder Club.

The International Canoe is specifically mentioned as invited as an entry without escort, just as any other sailing vessel.

Come on over and play!

Dave Ellis

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I won't speak for the commodore, but I say yes, bring it!

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Cool I hope to be there. Although I need to figure out some stuff with my child and her mother So we will see.

 

Ortega, what would it take to get you to let me play around with your Hansen sail on my 5 ?

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I'll bring it!, but i need to take it back with me, never know when it will be honkin and need a sail!

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I didn't expect to borrow it for more than a day or so, depending on the wind. It may be too much sail too high up for my 130# a$$. When I sailed at seabrook last season I went out with my short rig (minus the upper mast section), it's like reefing the sail on a F5, if u can picture that. I still capsized twice, and with out the floatation of the sealed upper section it turtles almost as soon as it goes over.

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On board ready for ya! And believe me, it is so much better, you'll love it, even with my light weight, can handle the big wind, it just flat works!

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$10,000 for a 4 year old Weta? How much do they go for new?

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He's somewhat dreaming. I suggested a friend to offer $8k.

 

He probably bought for $12.5k. The newer style is now $14k

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Next race is Conroe Yacht Club, April 9 & 10. Sunday is the last day to save $15 on early registration and if you download, fill out and return the entry to me by Sunday night, you can pay at the registration table Friday afternoon or Saturday morning before the skippers meeting. We have about ten Lasers, several Sunfish and five TCC boats registered as I write this. I expect a bunch more before Sunday. We expect 50 total this year and the extended forecast is looking promising at the moment.

 

We will have coffee and fruit Saturday morning, water and Gatorade on the committee and chase boats, 1/2 pound steak burgers, baked beans, salad and a keg of Shiner Saturday night, breakfast tacos with fruit and coffee Sunday morning and hot dogs Sunday after the races before the trip home.

 

Lastly, I have commissioned five trophies for each class of TCC, Laser and Sunfish. You all will have a great time.

 

See you there.

 

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Yes it is. We have lots of room on our front lawn for tents and the club house, although old, has two bathrooms and an outside shower with hot water. We also have limited room for campers and a place to plug them in to electricity.

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I'm out. I've had another stroke, in hospital at the moment going to rehab next, so I won't even be able to come spectate. I'll keep y'all posted as needed.

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We've got a lot more Lasers and Sunfish pre-registered for Conroe than TCC boats. This is our regatta folks. People need to sign up.

 

So far:

 

Derek

Darin

Mike L

Big D

John L

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I'm still hoping to make it but won't get to leave Austin until Saturday morning early. google has it at around 3 hours form mi casa so if i leave around 5 i should make it in plenty of time. #lindy 911 I will let you know to expect me as soon as i know.

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I go to Austin the morning of two day regattas at AYC all the time. It's an easy drive. Come to Brenham on 290, then take 105 through Montgomery and we're on the left about five miles up.

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SORRY YOU WON'T BE THERE. Will save Hansen for next time. Get better soon!

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My voice is better already, if I was out of confinement I would be there, granted I would be without my boat but still there. But this being my 2nd stroke in 14 months, they have sent me to an inpatient rehab in round rock so I'm stuck.

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If you want to break out, I'm leaving Austin @ 5 Saturday morning!

 

 

My voice is better already, if I was out of confinement I would be there, granted I would be without my boat but still there. But this being my 2nd stroke in 14 months, they have sent me to an inpatient rehab in round rock so I'm stuck.

Heal up and we'll see you soon!

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We have about 25 pre-registered boats across 3 classes for this weekend. I've talked to several more who are coming up and will register Saturday morning. We hope to break 40 boats.

 

For those interested, we will have a Friday afternoon sail starting at about 3:00 including my Scot, two Aeros (7 & 9), the flat top canoe and several Lasers. Join us if you can make it early.

 

The forecast is almost perfect @ 10-15 both days, sunny and 80+ degrees. If you're on the fence, get off and come join us. The Shiner will be ice cold.

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Gunna be epic, am bringin the Hansen sail, maybe we can get one of the Laser peeps to sail in our fleet!

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Spring Fling

 

1. Hank Sarauge Aero 7 Tie with Keever, tiebreaker most bullets.

2. Darin Keever Weta

3. Mike Lindstrom Flying Scot

4. John Luzius Weta

5. Ash Beatty Aero 9

 

Full scores and pictures will be posted to the web

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Spring Fling

 

1. Hank Sarauge Aero 7 Tie with Keever, tiebreaker most bullets.

2. Darin Keever Weta

3. Mike Lindstrom Flying Scot

4. John Luzius Weta

5. Ash Beatty Aero 9

 

Full scores and pictures will be posted to the web

Isn't this the web?

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Looking at the results. I tied in points with Hank, but he wins the tie break with 1 more 1st. Looking a little deeper, I lost one race to him by less than a second, which would have given me the 1st. Can't slack at all in this crowd.

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Thx to all!, it was very fun and a very well run regatta, one of the best I've been to. Had some really fun runs, enjoyed the reaches with Ash right behind me, interesting to see how fast the Aero is, but waterline wins as usual, he was almost able to run up on me.

Thx again for the rescue, sorry couldn't hang in the 25, will be back!

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Man, I'm just glad to hear you are ok. I freaked out a bit once I saw the red flashing lights. Seconds later I saw you getting towed out, so I figured it was all good.

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YEA, And the constable was waved off as I sailed back in also, you try sailing a sliding seat canoe full of water on a 25+ day!

But again, thx for all the help, and the ribbing!

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I managed to capsize hard at first tack sunday, broke upper spreaders, decided to sail in, turned too soon at cove, could not tack back out. Floated,(sailed sideways on db), to shore, righted and furled jib, was trying to sail out of very small cove, much work and exhaustion. Scully boat came and towed me out and righted agian, so sailed in to club, full of water under main only, saw the Constable come by, found out later that comm had called them, and firetruck, thinking I was in distress. You know me, will sail it in if at all possible. When ashore, it hit me how smoked I was, almost fainted. But all good now, epoxy fixes all and will be at RCYC for next event, hope to see all y'all then!

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Ha. Wow. Glad all is well. We were at Houston a few years ago with the J22s in big breeze and bigger waves. Saw a capsize and crew fall off the boat leaving just the skipper with the kite up. We abandoned and went and helped much to our grumble because we were doing well and it was an expensive regatta. Turned out another boat right by us had accidentally jibed and one of their crew actually died. We didn't see any of it. We heard a few versions of what happened (boom hit him, heart attack, drowned) but never really heard the whole story. Pretty scary cause it was right next to us and they had lots of race committee. Anyways, just encourage everyone to always assume people aren't ok and go check on them, especially when it's blowing.

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You make a great point. My voice was horse because A) my crew couldn't hear and B) I was screaming at the chase boat from 300 yards away in a blow to go get Derik. They were busy handing out water and didn't see him. Finally, Darin was able to get over to them and alert them to the situation. Apparently a person who lives on the water near where Derik was capsized called the White House and they sent the Constables patrol boat along with a fire truck to the neighboring condo complex. So you all know, the guys that typically work the patrol boats, except for the game warden, have NO CLUE what to do with a capsized canoe, or any sailboat for that matter.

 

The CYC board will use this experience to come up with more defined rolls of the chase boats in pursuit of a safer racing environment.

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Wow. TCC is like a real sailing club. The website looks great. Easy to read results, and the pics are fun!

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And hats off to all at CYC, absolutely one of the best run and organized regattas ever. And while I do sail a singlehander, or at least it's sposed to be, appreciate all the help to keep me safe. Will see all y'all at RCYC, couple weeks, you just watch!

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I'm sorry I missed the race. I was planning to bring my Sunfish out and have some heavy air fun, but started getting stomach cramps while loading the boat up. Long story short I now have 3 new holes in my stomach and one less appendix than I did Friday. 0 out 5 stars, would not recommend.

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Chicks dig scars. But, yeah.. that sucks.

 

Rush Creek?

Planning to. Sunfish again though since my Wayfarer only has a yard trailer.

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Bring it! We need all to show up, just to show that we really do like the TCC and want to travel. We travel lots down south to y'all, you're turn.

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So far the Wetas are the only boats showing up on the entry list.

 

I would assume DG will be there.

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