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We have had a LOT of customers asking us to make battle flags for their boats. In the interest of not reinventing the wheel...Who makes the best ones right now and how could they be better? We have been sending people to North Sails.

 

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The greatest thing about our battle flag is that it was cut to fit the angle of our forestay and has a luff tape sewed into it. Made by North Sails.

 

Sweet.

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The greatest thing about our battle flag is that it was cut to fit the angle of our forestay and has a luff tape sewed into it. Made by North Sails.

North made mine too. And it was cool that it fit the fore triangle with the luff tape sewed on. Also they made it bigger than I was planning. It fits the boat well.

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Bettina and her crew at the Sail Bag Lady has done a good job for us.

 

Here's her link: https://sailbaglady.com

 

NFI

 

 

Bettina made mine. Luff tape and all. Only thing is it has multiple layers so it's a little heavy compared to one that's an inlay.

Gets a lot of attention. And I made the parell beads so I can hoist it over the furled genny.

 

 

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I have never considered a battle flag until 30 seconds ago.

 

How much Mark?

 

You have our logo and I still need to get a couple more shirts.

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I have never considered a battle flag until 30 seconds ago.

 

How much Mark?

 

You have our logo and I still need to get a couple more shirts.

 

We are working on the pricing and deciding who to partner with since it is clear that a lot of people want the luff tape/bolt rope version. We are also looking at the different options for UV protection for the graphic. We hope to have something to off in the next two weeks. Maybe sooner.

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Are you thinking inked, or screen-printed, or fabric inlaid, or... ?

 

Can matter a lot, depending on design (eg, a non-symmetrical design screenprinted on a battle flag can look *horrible*.)

 

JMHO

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Another endorsement for The Sail Bag Lady here. She did a great job with our new battle flag. She has done other work for us in the past too. She uses flag cloth, so they should last a long time.

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The Sail Bag Lady made a "wedding burgee" for us. High quality, seems durable. Made to spec with no problems.

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Another endorsement for The Sail Bag Lady here. She did a great job with our new battle flag. She has done other work for us in the past too. She uses flag cloth, so they should last a long time.

I didn't know she was local, who did your design?

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UK sails made one for me. Looks good though the ink bleeds a bit. If you cut it for the forestay then consider putting a batten pocket in the top so it doesn't fold down under the weight.

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Another endorsement for The Sail Bag Lady here. She did a great job with our new battle flag. She has done other work for us in the past too. She uses flag cloth, so they should last a long time.

I didn't know she was local, who did your design?

 

 

That's a Reilly special. Apparently the first one took about 24 labor hours to design and build.

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By Far The Best --> Victoria's Secret

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By Far The Best --> Victoria's Secret

 

You know the rules...Pictures Woody or it didn't happen.

 

& Buy an Ad

 

 

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My experience: North Flags (yes, part of North Sails) and they are in San Diego. Great quality, reasonable price, and all the features you'd want.

Cheers, Greg

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Billy from MacDesigns makes great Battle flags, usually screen printed on light flag material, they are finished however the client requests, be it Boltrope with grommets, Luff tape or free flying for Sprit boats and flown from Tackline and Masthead halyard.

 

They also have supplied Battle Flags with a 'Gaff Batten' that holds the flag up even in light/no breeze, works best on a Luff tape finished flag.

 

Inlays are available from your local sailmaker, however, can be expensive depending on the complexity and finish of the flag/design.

 

Of course, this is just an opinion...your mileage may vary.

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Christie from North Sails made ours. I took a look at a large, Med and Small size. SWMBO picked the medium, Christie provided pre-manufacture proof and angled the cut and put the luff tape on.

 

It makes spotting the boat in a harbor or marina easy for arriving crew.

 

Was at a Beneteau R-dvous the other day, the cruisers wanted to know what a Battle Flag was...grin...learned that driving the USS Peterson - DD969!

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Are you thinking inked, or screen-printed, or fabric inlaid, or... ?

 

Can matter a lot, depending on design (eg, a non-symmetrical design screenprinted on a battle flag can look *horrible*.)

 

JMHO

 

Dye sublimated would be our preference as then there is little limitation to size. We would like to create them for everything form a NACRA 17 for the US Olympic team if they would like one all the way up to the SUPER MAXIS.

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Are you thinking inked, or screen-printed, or fabric inlaid, or... ?

 

Can matter a lot, depending on design (eg, a non-symmetrical design screenprinted on a battle flag can look *horrible*.)

 

JMHO

 

Dye sublimated would be our preference as then there is little limitation to size. We would like to create them for the US Olympic team

 

 

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Are you thinking inked, or screen-printed, or fabric inlaid, or... ?

 

Can matter a lot, depending on design (eg, a non-symmetrical design screenprinted on a battle flag can look *horrible*.)

 

JMHO

 

We are using all over flood sublimation. Starting the process now. We just need a few guinea pigs that want to give it a try for cheap. We are going to take our time at sorting out what system is going to be best for a two sided flag. Right now it looks like two dye sublimated panels sewn together and then adding webbing loops top and bottom and a #6 luff tape. Still working out the guinea pig pricing and then the production pricing. No one seems to list prices for battle flags. What does a small, medium or large flag cost these days?

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Okay folks it is time. We are going to make eight more battle flags as BETA flags so if you need to show your colors and want to save a boatload of money for providing some simple feedback. NOW** is the time.  The first couple of sets of flags made their owners super happy but we want to be certain we have this right.

Email me if you want to be one of those eight remaining folks that give us feedback in exchange for a really inexpensive flag. email mark@dryshirt.com if you are interested. If we have already done shirts or other gear for you this will be super easy for you (and us). #6 luff tape professionally sewn by one of the best sail lofts in the world comes standard. 71-74 degree luff angle seems to be the norm. 

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My crew needs a flag that can be hoisted with either side up and still look okay. Can you do that? Can I get a spinnaker done the same way?

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18 minutes ago, daddle said:

My crew needs a flag that can be hoisted with either side up and still look okay. Can you do that? Can I get a spinnaker done the same way?

Yes, these are double sided flags with a blackout panel between them. Looks great from either side.

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2 hours ago, fucket said:

Discount without the luff tape? I've got an idea...

The luff tape is pretty reasonable but yes, it is a little less expensive with grommets.

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Mark - we can beta test for you with the RD logo on a light grey background (exactly like the shirts) and the flag with grommets.  It would be cool to have snaps or something around the forestay so the grommets dont get punished by the tension from the halyard. 

I need to order hats anyway.

 

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27 minutes ago, Code 2 said:

Mark - we can beta test for you with the RD logo on a light grey background (exactly like the shirts) and the flag with grommets.  It would be cool to have snaps or something around the forestay so the grommets dont get punished by the tension from the halyard. 

I need to order hats anyway.

 

YUP.  We can do that. Give me a call or an email today and we'll get you hooked up.

 

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On 6/11/2016 at 11:00 AM, DryArmour said:

 

We are working on the pricing and deciding who to partner with since it is clear that a lot of people want the luff tape/bolt rope version. We are also looking at the different options for UV protection for the graphic. We hope to have something to off in the next two weeks. Maybe sooner.

No need for UV protection, battle flags are flown only briefly.  They do serve a purpose besides boat bragging at the dock; in light air before the start they are a good semaphore for wind direction (if any).  Therefore, lightweight ripstop with cutout logos also of ripstop, or inks.  Hanks or luff tape is not important.  A pennant shape (a flag or banner longer in the fly than in the hoist; especially:  one that tapers to a point) from lightweight cloth will flag better than a square one.  Better to have it 2/3rds up the forestay than mid-forestay  to pick up wind zephyrs up high.  The fly should just be short enough to not touch the mast when hoisted.

I made my own in the '90s, cutout logo style (still in perfect shape); would never do it again because of the effort.  I'll pay next time.  Some thoughts, don't leave it up in high winds at the dock or the leech will get torn up with all the flapping (best to make the leech fat so you can resew if the leech fails) and store it dry in a mesh bag or it'll get funky. And no words or asymmetrical features so it looks the same from both sides.

I figure $400USD minimum for a good one is fair.




 

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I got off easy. My boats name is Echo so bought a huge 3x5 "E" signal flag right off the shelve.  

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Hi mark,

 

I've sent you an email on the battle flags. I've also sent you the logos I use on my dragon. would be interested to know the options.

 

Jelle

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from memory on the "big ruby" Daphne was flung to the ground by someone and drawn around , finished product came out ok too

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I flew the Burgundy cross while in California...

Long ago used as a Naval ensign, it was the first flag to fly in California, long before California came to be California.

Connects my Spanish, French, & Dutch links...

- not much else does!

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A battle flag is easy to paint...cheap...if you like. I have had a sailmaker sew up the desired nylon quadrilateral with a luff tape and a couple of grommets. No big deal. Any color nylon you like. Then buy some fabric paint at the art supply vendor. Does not take much skill. The viewers are never close so perfection is secondary. Lasts a few seasons if it is only flown on race days.

The sailmaker can cut in the forestay angle if you like.

Simple designs that mirror from side to side are easier...of course...and look better...duh.

$100 tops...paint and cloth and sewing.

Hint: Make it huge. Some pictured above are inadequate.

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