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6 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

Looks like La Vag is drying up. The pressure of living on a boat with a toddler and a man child has gotten to her.
The realization of getting boned for the last 5 years by an unemployed drifter with no retirement account  or health insurance on a borrowed sailboat and having nothing but memories and a little eating, shitting and  vomiting machine  is settling in. Sorry Lenny, college isn't for everyone. The world needs ditch-diggers too. 

   

  

   

She lucked out, she gets the crying baby and he gets the big new catamaran..

if she has any sense she will be back onboard in a couple of days.

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9 minutes ago, olaf hart said:

She lucked out, she gets the crying baby and he gets the big new catamaran..

if she has any sense she will be back onboard in a couple of days.

Nobody is watching that vlog without those tits.
Sure he could find other sets of guest tits, but then there is child support to think about.
As usual the MILF with the young kid is holding all the cards 

    

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9 hours ago, Ajax said:

That sound you're hearing is me not giving a f---.

This.

FKT

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On 8/13/2020 at 11:48 AM, Cristoforo said:

On the positive side she is still young and you can go a long way in yachting life with a magnificent set of tits, and the ability to cook and not to get seasick.

Not just yachting. A woman with great tits that doesn't vomit can go anywhere she wants in life. 

She'll be back next week. We talked about them, that was the point.

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On 8/13/2020 at 10:41 PM, MauiPunter said:

Countdown to her showing up on PornHub.

If she ever does, this place will light up like a Christmas tree  :blink:

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Isn’t this just another cult/mass communication scheme?

Like the an evangelical tv guy, steel boat guy who engineered a prank. Drama couple creates drama. The fans who stay are even more sucked in and gives the cult leader even more control and ability to ask for more. 
 

Just think for a moment. Video editing requires cooperation and coordination from both parties. Even if people are trying to sell you a story that they’re apart, the footage has to be obtained and edited and coordinated and uploaded and released. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Miffy said:

Isn’t this just another cult/mass communication scheme?

Like the an evangelical tv guy, steel boat guy who engineered a prank. Drama couple creates drama. The fans who stay are even more sucked in and gives the cult leader even more control and ability to ask for more. 
 

Just think for a moment. Video editing requires cooperation and coordination from both parties. Even if people are trying to sell you a story that they’re apart, the footage has to be obtained and edited and coordinated and uploaded and released. 
 

 

Yes, without a doubt. It's in both their financial interests to generate views/subscriptions/clicks regardless of whatever may be happening in their personal relationship. No matter what, the mantra of them and their elk is Monetize Everything.

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3 hours ago, IStream said:

Yes, without a doubt. It's in both their financial interests to generate views/subscriptions/clicks regardless of whatever may be happening in their personal relationship. No matter what, the mantra of them and their elk is Monetize Everything.

They have an elk on board now?:blink:

But seriously, I did skim the "breakup" video, and the worst part was his pseudo-philosophical ramblings about how he "read this book" and it "really opened his eyes" yadda yadda.  Somehow sailing vloggers seem to make shallow philosophers.  It took me a while to warm up to Kevin Boothby (whose channel I generally like), since the first one of his vids I saw was mostly him sitting on a sandbar talking about some book he'd read that he seemed to think was really really deep, maaaan.

 

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The cold hard facts are that without her sex appeal, their channel would never have taken off.  
However, in certain circles if you point out the fact that a lot of women in their physical prime only have a following in whatever field or medium due to said sex appeal, you get shot down as a misogynistic white guy.

But, sex sells, and she has used her ASSets well to help keep her and drongo's channel ahead of all bar Delos.

So while a market remains for their crap, I guess you have to say "well played".  But, I also have no problem with anyone pointing out what a load of shit their channel is, as are 99% of the sailing channels out there.

It still amazes me though why some fellas just don't go and rub one out while watching pornhub, instead of giving Vag channel any views whatsoever.  But - there are a lot of things in life that mystify me.....

And, I guess after all is said and done, I'm part of the problem having just given them a (albeit small) amount of oxygen by making this posting about them.  

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5 hours ago, Miffy said:

Isn’t this just another cult/mass communication scheme?

Like the an evangelical tv guy, steel boat guy who engineered a prank. Drama couple creates drama. The fans who stay are even more sucked in and gives the cult leader even more control and ability to ask for more. 
 

Just think for a moment. Video editing requires cooperation and coordination from both parties. Even if people are trying to sell you a story that they’re apart, the footage has to be obtained and edited and coordinated and uploaded and released. 
 

 

Every video before the baby had an aqua crotch shot. Maybe they fought over post baby crotch shot editing?

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57 minutes ago, Corryvreckan said:

They have an elk on board now?:blink:

But seriously, I did skim the "breakup" video, and the worst part was his pseudo-philosophical ramblings about how he "read this book" and it "really opened his eyes" yadda yadda.  Somehow sailing vloggers seem to make shallow philosophers.  It took me a while to warm up to Kevin Boothby (whose channel I generally like), since the first one of his vids I saw was mostly him sitting on a sandbar talking about some book he'd read that he seemed to think was really really deep, maaaan.

 

I remember his sandbar video, where he did spout a little philosophy.  Didn't mind it at all, and thought he was bang on the money.  Can't really remember any others...most of his videos are actual sailing, or a few projects when he hauls out.

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39 minutes ago, Cristoforo said:

Every video before the baby had an aqua crotch shot. Maybe they fought over post baby crotch shot editing?

Come to think of it you are right.  There was always a shot of Mrs LV wiggling those perky little buns past the camera as she went diving.  She was rather good at it.  Not too many could fill a bikini bottom better than Mrs LV.

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10 hours ago, JRC026 said:

I remember his sandbar video, where he did spout a little philosophy.  Didn't mind it at all, and thought he was bang on the money.  Can't really remember any others...most of his videos are actual sailing, or a few projects when he hauls out.

Yes, most of his vids are about the sailing, and I've been following his Atlantic crossing.  But that sandbar video (yep, that's the one) really didn't make a great first impression, and it was a while before I watched any of his others.  Re-watching it now, I still find it a bit trite.  Full disclosure, though: my response to any mention of Jordan Peterson tends to be a heavy eye-roll.  Your mileage may vary.

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8 minutes ago, Corryvreckan said:

Yes, most of his vids are about the sailing, and I've been following his Atlantic crossing.  But that sandbar video (yep, that's the one) really didn't make a great first impression, and it was a while before I watched any of his others.  Re-watching it now, I still find it a bit trite.  Full disclosure, though: my response to any mention of Jordan Peterson tends to be a heavy eye-roll.  Your mileage may vary.

Gotcha. Yep, I'm about an 90% agreement with JP.  Think his denigration of the left is sometimes a bit over the top, but other than that he is spot on the money in my opinion, and his epic takedown of the "so you're saying" interviewer in the UK a couple years was one of the best bits of TV i've seen in a long time.  But hey, we don't want to turn this into 'Philosophy Anarchy' , so each to their own.

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1 hour ago, JRC026 said:

Gotcha. Yep, I'm about an 90% agreement with JP.  Think his denigration of the left is sometimes a bit over the top, but other than that he is spot on the money in my opinion, and his epic takedown of the "so you're saying" interviewer in the UK a couple years was one of the best bits of TV i've seen in a long time.  But hey, we don't want to turn this into 'Philosophy Anarchy' , so each to their own.

For an epic takedown watch Peterson meeting Slavoj Zizek.

Exposes Peterson for what he is rather well. Just a big mouth pretending to be an intellectual to impress some college kids.

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Good grief !  The LVs are back together already ! ! !

Could the whole thing have been a publicity stunt ?  Surely not.

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I haven't followed the "story," but it seems obvious that the dinghy in the shot above does not contain female quantities of luggage.  

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23 minutes ago, Upp3 said:

And next one to get preggers is Nandji.

Wasn't me.

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4 hours ago, Diarmuid said:

This one's ... novel.

 

goodonem

 

they make a film a month - and I think the films are all the better for it

 

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I have been a keen user of trolling motors for a year or two now

I bought a 12 volt for the dinghy and a 24 volt for the 22 footer one was £130 and the other was £199

The motors seem reliable but the controllers keep on burning themselves out

the replacement bit is only £20 - it is some sort of resistance throttle - but more expensive motors have something that pulses the current to the motor.

In looking for a youtube solution to the replacement job I stumbled across this bloke who slowly, and with an astonishing amount of delight , dismantles and fixes a dead trolling motor

14 minutes of slow joy

 

 

 

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Ep.259 We are the opposite of La Vagabonde
I think he means that they went from cat -> mono, as opposed to mono -> cat... but there are lots of other interpretations which could (and are) being made.
Good on ya, Plukky and Margerida. :D

 

 

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She is so damn cute.  Good on ya plucky.   

The guy is annoying as hell, but his channel seems more legit than most.  He shows the shit and the shine.

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1 hour ago, MauiPunter said:

She is so damn cute.  Good on ya plucky.   

The guy is annoying as hell, but his channel seems more legit than most.  He shows the shit and the shine.

by my count, that guy has lured 3 different women on his "adventures", everyone a drop dead hottie...what every he's doing....

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On 8/4/2020 at 3:46 PM, dylan winter said:

While the wildings were not enjoying the weed on the French canals  the Golgafrinchams did not enjoy their Atlantic crossing

 

This boat looks really rolly!

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9 hours ago, savoir said:

They don't have enough sail up.  Beats me why they are reefed in such ideal conditions.

They are super conservative.

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10 hours ago, Ajax said:

They are super conservative.

A little racing experience would fix that

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On 9/2/2020 at 10:26 PM, savoir said:

They don't have enough sail up.  Beats me why they are reefed in such ideal conditions.

They're not going to break any records...or any gear!  They are sailing smart!

Signed Cap'n Fatty

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Free Range Sailing has quickly become my new favorite sailing blog.  The guy, Troy, is very clever. Pascale, his girlfriend, is a great sport and looks to be an excellent cook.  Both are really chill, humble, and appreciative.  Their boat is small and old, but well maintained.  You can see how Troy just loves sailing, his boat, and of course Pascale.  Their videos are well constructed, interesting, and nicely scored.  They are cruising where and the way I imagine I would like cruising.  Although reality might change my perspective, these vids are all about escapism, aren't they?

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Did anyone talking about the LaVag video actually watch it? Especially the part when they said the were going to be apart for just a few days? Yes it's all pop psychology and people talking about books they just read but if you haven't noticed, the problem of peoples' lives on social media looking artificially awesome is a massive topic all over social media. The LaVag gang are clearly conscious that they have had one of the highest levels of apparent awesomeness ever, so are trying to show how it really is. Sure you can heckle them but the tone here suggests some SA members have a  novel medical condition which combines erectile dysfunction with ADHD. Anyway, if you want actual sailing content, they just decamped to the Azores from Portugal starting in 35kts with beam seas and Riley has a whole segment on the mistakes in his weather decision making.  

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2 hours ago, Foiling Optimist said:

they just decamped to the Azores from Portugal starting in 35kts with beam seas and Riley has a whole segment on the mistakes in his weather decision making.  

people start doing stupid to get clicks. 

See?  It works, here you are talking about how they have sucked you in.

EDIT: The real stuff on nightmares is having a successful video blog and having the work that fucking hard to feed it.  The commitment is the exact opposite to the lifestyle they started projecting in the first place.

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5 minutes ago, astro said:

people start doing stupid to get clicks. 

See?  It works, here you are talking about how they have sucked you in.

EDIT: The real stuff on nightmares is having a successful video blog and having the work that fucking hard to feed it.  The commitment is the exact opposite to the lifestyle they started projecting in the first place.

I think you make an interesting point

youtube algorithms demand regular posting - a minimum of once a week to get any sort of presence in feeds

to have a life exciting enough to make a film a week woud  drive you crackers

imagine being a character in a soap opera - your brain would  fall apart.

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2 hours ago, Zonker said:

35 knots with beam seas on a catamaran is the stuff of nightmares.

Put a lee shore in that nightmare !

 

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No, you can sail. It's just really uncomfortable unless the seas are really well spaced apart.

I have 2 vivid recollections of "well this sucks" with a strong wind on the beam; both were in the 25-30 range. There was a lot of motion as one hull is lifted and then the other.

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Short wave period makes the nausea worse in my experience.

Zonk, I have heard the motion is more uncomfortable on a cat, did you notice any significant difference  in these conditions wrt a monohull, or is it just a displacement thing?

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On 9/5/2020 at 2:52 AM, savoir said:

If they stick with being underpowered then the boat will continue to roll and roll and roll.

Quite a lot of the sailors on YouTube do that. Makes me seasick from watching.

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3 hours ago, mathystuff said:

Quite a lot of the sailors on YouTube do that. Makes me seasick from watching.

All them god awful over-weight pinched transom boats roll like nuts if you do that, I cannot fathom how they use that footage.

Youtuber in a 4ksb - "Look at us here on this nice down-wind run"

*me struggling not to vomit watching the footage* - "How do you put up with that shit?!"

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9 hours ago, dylan winter said:

I think you make an interesting point

youtube algorithms demand regular posting - a minimum of once a week to get any sort of presence in feeds

to have a life exciting enough to make a film a week woud  drive you crackers

imagine being a character in a soap opera - your brain would  fall apart.

D

It's called 2020. We are all cast members. There is not enuf cocaine in all the green rooms in all the world to get us to Christmas.

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7 hours ago, Zonker said:

No, you can sail. It's just really uncomfortable unless the seas are really well spaced apart.

I have 2 vivid recollections of "well this sucks" with a strong wind on the beam; both were in the 25-30 range. There was a lot of motion as one hull is lifted and then the other.

I have vivid memories of that, only it was at night.  Very scary when you cannot see the gusts coming, all you can do is shorten everything one more notch.

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10 hours ago, dylan winter said:

I think you make an interesting point

youtube algorithms demand regular posting - a minimum of once a week to get any sort of presence in feeds

to have a life exciting enough to make a film a week woud  drive you crackers

imagine being a character in a soap opera - your brain would  fall apart.

D

It's more than an interesting point Dylan.

I don't watch these people, but it has always been my idea of hell, to have the cruising life destroyed by commitment and criticism.  Fuck that.

These people will need help with their PTSD when the fade moves on.

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7 hours ago, olaf hart said:

Short wave period makes the nausea worse in my experience.

Zonk, I have heard the motion is more uncomfortable on a cat, did you notice any significant difference  in these conditions wrt a monohull, or is it just a displacement thing?

None that I noticed.

Most races I go through a short period of nausea about 20 mins in, lasts about 5 mins then goes away.  Each time I worry that I am going to get sick this time, but I don't.

Exactly the same thing on both Cats and Monos, no difference.

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1 hour ago, astro said:

None that I noticed.

Most races I go through a short period of nausea about 20 mins in, lasts about 5 mins then goes away.  Each time I worry that I am going to get sick this time, but I don't.

Exactly the same thing on both Cats and Monos, no difference.

Sounds like nerves, rather than motion.

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My impression of that start out nausea that settles after a day or so is that it is related to reflexly moving against the motion of the boat.

Once we settle into the motion and become a part of the boat, it seems to calm down.

Fighting against the motion doubles the travel of the semicircular canals, and also shortens the apparent wave period...

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The worst I ever experienced on a cat was an offshore cross-sea - IIRC it was a long period swell from an old system hitting the stbd fwd quarter and and new waves from pressure filling from the stbd aft quarter. Until the new wind filled in enough to get us properly powered-up we had about 24 hours of feeling like a pinball, all 4 corners felt like they were moving independently - it's the only time I've felt that a mono may have dealt with it better. It sucked and I ended up sticking my fingers down my throat off the aft steps because I just couldn't shift the nausea...

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6 hours ago, Bryanjb said:

One type is form stabilized the other is ballast stabilized.  There can be marked differences in the ride.

It always comes back to sex, doesn’t it?

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Just now, Black Sox said:

It always comes back to sex, doesn’t it?

I was going to say that one's stickier in light air but I guess I'll refrain.

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18 hours ago, olaf hart said:

Zonk, I have heard the motion is more uncomfortable on a cat, did you notice any significant difference  in these conditions wrt a monohull, or is it just a displacement thing?

I'd say ~90% of the time the motions on a cat are MORE comfortable. Generally on short passage or long, if conditions were reasonable we always arrived more rested and relaxed than the monohull crews too. Even day sails we noticed the effect.

We first noticed this on a short hop (20 n.m.) in the Northern Gulf Islands (Hornby to Lasqueti for the locals reading). We arrived before a ~32' mono that left before us. It was upwind the whole way, in maybe 18-20 knots? It was notable because a glass of juice fell off the table and we were all stunned that this could happen. Mostly the toddler stayed below, stacking dominos before a big wave would topple them. We arrived, anchored, had a glass of wine, and were just going to head ashore to pick berries when we noticed the mono come in. We said hi as they passed and asked if they wanted to join us. "Nope, we're exhausted... that was such a rough day".  My wife and I looked at each other and thought, yeah, if we were in our old 30' mono we would have been happy to just relax and it would have been a rough day....

Worst than mono

- beams seas > 2m

- Motoring into short steep chop with little wind. Cats pitch way more and it's an ugly motion

Better than mono

- anytime downwind. No rolling, just gliding along or surfing if the waves were bigger. Little chance of broaching

- surprisingly - to windward in strong trades (25+ knots). To be avoided but we sometimes had to do it. We were sailing in relatively close company (max VHF range) with a Stevens 47 and a Beneteau 51, both moderate displacement monos. They didn't like the conditions and eased sheets a bit to make things more comfy for their crews while we kept hard on the wind. For us it was bumpy for 3 days and nobody cooked big meals but it wasn't that bad. They both said it was pretty hard for them.

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Here's a funny one. Adam Booth is well known as Abom79, arguably the most competent and interesting manual machinist on YouTube. Recently he did a collaboration  with SV Seeker to broach some key ways into cast bronze capstans. Now normally Abom has an outstanding likes to dislikes ratio of well 2%, even on some of his early viral videos that go into millions of views.  Here he has double that and fewer likes over all, and as you will see in the comments, it's certainly because a lot of people are still really mad about the stupid stunt Doug pulled that we are all familiar with. I think we would all agree here, if you are a YouTube influencer it would be generally advisable to collaborate with Leo and Tally Ho, as Keith Rucker did on his threading machine repair. 

ps. Top comment from youtube: "Those are some pretty sloppy looking castings. Looks like the patterns where made by a drunk".

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22 hours ago, Zonker said:

It was notable because a glass of juice fell off the table

Oh the horror... was an all hands called?

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We were really shocked actually. You quickly get used to stuff lying around everywhere.

Our passage prep consisted of "where are we going" and "is the fridge full". The monohull folks would always be packing and stowing for a considerable amount.

(By the way, once you do 1 big ocean passages, future ones get easier and easier and less stressful. I didn't sleep well for several days before leaving Mexico for the Marquesas. For the South Atlantic, with a ~1 week first leg from Namibia to St. Helena, we stopped at the local grocery store, bought a ton of fresh produce and left the next morning. The boat was all sorted, there was no last minute fixes, we just... left.)

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On 9/9/2020 at 9:25 PM, NZK said:

The worst I ever experienced on a cat was an offshore cross-sea -............ 24 hours of feeling like a pinball, all 4 corners felt like they were moving independently -............

 

6 hours ago, Zonker said:

We were really shocked actually. You quickly get used to stuff lying around everywhere..........

I was aboard a 50 foot cat West coast NZ, the sea was confused and pyramidal after a 90 degree wind shift 35-38 knots.

 The motion was a violent cork screw combined with a fast elevator ride, everything not stowed was flung around, gear was broken,   movement around the boat was quite physically demanding.   The noise and vibration was at a level where we had to shout to be heard.

In higher latitudes where there's often a large swell component or two combining with the waves. Cats are not popular around here due to that. A few people here bought cats up North, had a ball cruising the coral coasts and brought the boats back here only to sell them and go back to a monohull for local sailing.  

 

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5 hours ago, MikeJohns said:

 

I was aboard a 50 foot cat West coast NZ, the sea was confused and pyramidal after a 90 degree wind shift 35-38 knots.

 The motion was a violent cork screw combined with a fast elevator ride, everything not stowed was flung around, gear was broken,   movement around the boat was quite physically demanding.   The noise and vibration was at a level where we had to shout to be heard.

In higher latitudes where there's often a large swell component or two combining with the waves. Cats are not popular around here due to that. A few people here bought cats up North, had a ball cruising the coral coasts and brought the boats back here only to sell them and go back to a monohull for local sailing.  

 

Yer, I love  my cat, but 2 or 3 swells combining can really set up that uncomfortable cork screw elevator action.

Great Australian Bight was like that after the passage of a front on out recent crossing.

Big difference between playing in the trades and the real world :) 

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1 hour ago, fragglerock said:

New to me... Beneteau with impact damage to the keel grid... amateur repairers... what could go wrong?

 

 

I was just going to post this.  Funny.  Interesting so far.   Not sure how they will know how to fix the grid, but I guess we will find out.  I'd love to know what ended up paying in the auction.

 

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1 hour ago, MauiPunter said:

I was just going to post this.  Funny.  Interesting so far.   Not sure how they will know how to fix the grid, but I guess we will find out.  I'd love to know what ended up paying in the auction.

 

Hope they know a good engineer experienced with composites. It's not a repair I'd want to undertake myself without professional advice.

FKT

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Just now, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Hope they know a good engineer experienced with composites. It's not a repair I'd want to undertake myself without professional advice.

FKT

What's the worst that could happen?

/s

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1 minute ago, darth reapius said:

What's the worst that could happen?

/s

Point. As long as they video it all. Why should SV Seeker and Rusty Junk have it on their own.

First thing I thought when I saw the keel bolt locations was - they're *really* close to the CL. The leverage moment is huge. That's a really shit design structurally.

FKT

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3 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Point. As long as they video it all. Why should SV Seeker and Rusty Junk have it on their own.

First thing I thought when I saw the keel bolt locations was - they're *really* close to the CL. The leverage moment is huge. That's a really shit design structurally.

FKT

The loose sodden core in the bilge beneath the separated grid I initially thought we have found a replacement for Mads who must be nearly finished but I agree FKT.

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1 minute ago, Priscilla said:

The loose sodden core in the bilge beneath the separated grid I initially thought we have found a replacement for Mads who must be nearly finished but I agree FKT.

I keep forgetting that modern boats have all sorts of soft squishy (once wet) shit between 2 thin layers of glass to make up the bulk and get some stiffness - until it delaminates.

Friend of mine has an aluminium boat, found substantial corrosion in the lazarette locker. I said get it cut out and new plate welded in by a good alumin welder. Relatively quick & easy repair and as strong as original for all intents & purposes.

Good luck to this couple, I hope they pull it off, but they're in for a hard road to do it correctly I think.

FKT

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Just now, Priscilla said:

The loose sodden core in the bilge beneath the separated grid I initially thought we have found a replacement for Mads who must be nearly finished but I agree FKT.

Mads, while absolutely 11/10, was actually hard to watch at that mid-point, not because of his work, or the work, but the fact he didn't strip out the boat first, he kinda started on a mini-rebuild and got himself stuck with ripping out an almost finished interior to work on the boat underneath it.

I am a huge subscriber to the thought that if you do this work, strip EVERYTHING off the hull to nothing, and work your way back from there.

Just now, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I keep forgetting that modern boats have all sorts of soft squishy (once wet) shit between 2 thin layers of glass to make up the bulk and get some stiffness - until it delaminates.

Friend of mine has an aluminium boat, found substantial corrosion in the lazarette locker. I said get it cut out and new plate welded in by a good alumin welder. Relatively quick & easy repair and as strong as original for all intents & purposes.

Good luck to this couple, I hope they pull it off, but they're in for a hard road to do it correctly I think.

FKT

When these guys said water was coming in slowly that was scarier to me than fast, does that mean it's coming into the core from one area of the outer layer of glass, filling the core, then coming into the boat through another different area of the inner layer of glass. Are they going to be removing a 10 foot x 15 foot area of the hull bottom and structure?! 

Jesus Fucking Christ that'll be a monster job on a boat that size.

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7 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I keep forgetting that modern boats have all sorts of soft squishy (once wet) shit between 2 thin layers of glass to make up the bulk and get some stiffness - until it delaminates.

Friend of mine has an aluminium boat, found substantial corrosion in the lazarette locker. I said get it cut out and new plate welded in by a good alumin welder. Relatively quick & easy repair and as strong as original for all intents & purposes.

Good luck to this couple, I hope they pull it off, but they're in for a hard road to do it correctly I think.

FKT

Best thing they could do with that wobbly yoghurt pot is put it on a cheap mountain section breed live long and prosper.

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6 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Mads, while absolutely 11/10, was actually hard to watch at that mid-point, not because of his work, or the work, but the fact he didn't strip out the boat first, he kinda started on a mini-rebuild and got himself stuck with ripping out an almost finished interior to work on the boat underneath it.

I am a huge subscriber to the thought that if you do this work, strip EVERYTHING off the hull to nothing, and work your way back from there.

When these guys said water was coming in slowly that was scarier to me than fast, does that mean it's coming into the core from one area of the outer layer of glass, filling the core, then coming into the boat through another different area of the inner layer of glass. Are they going to be removing a 10 foot x 15 foot area of the hull bottom and structure?! 

Jesus Fucking Christ that'll be a monster job on a boat that size.

Yeah. Sooner them than me. I hate fibreglass work.

As I said I'll casually keep an eye on progress but I'd not be at all surprised if the thing gets scrapped out once they realise what they're in for.

Frankly I'd rather build a new boat from scratch than go through a major repair/rebuild like that. It'd be faster.

FKT

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2 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Yeah. Sooner them than me. I hate fibreglass work.

As I said I'll casually keep an eye on progress but I'd not be at all surprised if the thing gets scrapped out once they realise what they're in for.

Frankly I'd rather build a new boat from scratch than go through a major repair/rebuild like that. It'd be faster.

FKT

100%

I built a 20' boat in about 1000 hours. $7k material cost. Under-weight.

A friend re-built an existing hull of similar size, was about 1500 hours work. $15k material cost. Over-weight.

The most fun work of mine was the initial structure and skin work, mate literally didn't get to do that, he was straight into glassing structure skipping that.

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My brother in law was tasked with repairing a somewhat soft hull in a big (ex charter) yacht (Dynamique 54 maybe). This was actually solid glass under the waterline, not cored, just not as solid as one might have liked. He basically ground back half the thickness of the glass on the outside of the hull and re-glassed, then ground out the inside of the hull until he hit the new glass he had laid and built it up again from the inside. That was getting on for 15 years ago. Boat is still sailing fine to this day afaik.

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50 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

The loose sodden core in the bilge beneath the separated grid I initially thought we have found a replacement for Mads who must be nearly finished but I agree FKT.

Mads nearly finished!

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I once looked at a 40’ boat that had bad pox, and a soggy synthetic core under the waterline.

The repair was to strip the outer skin under the waterline, vacuum bag on a new core and glass on a new bottom.

Fortunately it had a solid glass strip down the centerline so the keel was left on.

The builder told me he would never do another one...

I am looking forward to this job, I have a feeling they won’t cut any corners and we will probably find some professionals involved once they realise how deep they are in the brown stuff..

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1 hour ago, olaf hart said:

I once looked at a 40’ boat that had bad pox, and a soggy synthetic core under the waterline.

Funnily enough I know someone (and I think you do too) who's currently on the hard drying out his hull to get on with dealing with boat pox. I hope for his sake that he doesn't have the other issues.

I'll go & visit him once I've waited out my quarantine period.

FKT

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When you can stand on your Beneteau 49 and with a straight face say "We'll see what ends up making it in and what doesn't...only the budget (and our minimalists desire) will tell!"...

 

 

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