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1 hour ago, CapnK said:

According to what I read in the comments, they said paid over $50K but less than 100 for the boat. Or, about the median cost of a Whitby 42 which is in fine shape and probably needs less than $20K put into it to be world-capable.

 

But that wouldn't fit with their minimalistic desires.

Seriously though, I'm curious how their nightmare repair will turn out - it might help ease my "grid-a-phobia". Despite their complaints, I was impressed how easily the interior came apart. I guess that's the benefit of modular construction.

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2 hours ago, loneshark64 said:

Sometime somewhere someone made the fatal mistake of telling this guy he was interesting. I watched his videos of going to Hawaii a couple years ago and came away with the impression that he had discovered the island chain personally, as anointed by God, a feat second only to the Neolithic discovery of fire and Neil Armstrong setting foot upon the moon. He did a solid 15 minutes on cooking up a can of soup, all the while waxing lyrical about the timeless karmic value of cooking your own soup on a boat, quoting Shakespeare, Homer, Carl Jung and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. The full name of this channel is actually “Why we sail single handed: because nobody wants to be locked in a fiberglass box with me listening to this pompous bullshit for days on end.”

Maybe its a generational thing. I like the guy and his videos.

N.B.: I have about as much grey hair as him but its thicker. I live on the east coast, so Hawaii is off the table for me. Bermuda (which I have done in years past) or Azores are dreams for me.

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6 hours ago, Jim in Halifax said:

Maybe its a generational thing. I like the guy and his videos.

N.B.: I have about as much grey hair as him but its thicker. I live on the east coast, so Hawaii is off the table for me. Bermuda (which I have done in years past) or Azores are dreams for me.

He is like a sailing Andy Rooney.  My dad thinks he is a kick and he's 80.  lol.  Maybe its an old guy thing.  I watch him with my dad which probably makes me enjoy it more since he does too.

He is someone of some note.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Williams

"Christian Williams is an American journalist, television writer and yachtsman. A former Washington Post editor during the Watergate era, he later created two television dramas and is the author of four books including the Ted Turner biography "Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way."

Sounds like he has made a career out of pontificating. 

 

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9 hours ago, loneshark64 said:

Sometime somewhere someone made the fatal mistake of telling this guy he was interesting. I watched his videos of going to Hawaii a couple years ago and came away with the impression that he had discovered the island chain personally, as anointed by God, a feat second only to the Neolithic discovery of fire and Neil Armstrong setting foot upon the moon. He did a solid 15 minutes on cooking up a can of soup, all the while waxing lyrical about the timeless karmic value of cooking your own soup on a boat, quoting Shakespeare, Homer, Carl Jung and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. The full name of this channel is actually “Why we sail single handed: because nobody wants to be locked in a fiberglass box with me listening to this pompous bullshit for days on end.”

That's actually brutal. I don't think that video was actually too bad... despite my dis-interest in solo sailing, he's actually done an interesting job of editing, has thrown in some original thought, I actually have respect for it, and I don't say that often.

It's not that people say to someone that they are interesting, it's that most people think they are far more interesting/funny/original/whatever than they actually are, because all they do is obsess over themselves and disregard what other people do, they don't actually realise no one thinks they should be doing something.

As a comparison... I have an... acquaintance, well some chick a couple mates used to fuck, and she thought she was literally the funniest person on the planet and has since pursued a career in comedy. One of those mates was in Ol' Melbourne town and went to a show of hers and... She got up on stage at The Melbourne Comedy Festival, in a literal Penis outfit and told some pretty 3/10 sex jokes for 5 minutes which got more laughs of embarrassment than respect. All I could think, was that the only person who'd actually been funny in this situation was the dude who thought "Man, I bet some idiot would buy a Penis outfit to wear to a hens party or something, I'm gonna make them and sell them online" and instead someone literally bought one and wore it as a job. I'm pretty sure that's still the high-point in her career which would span the better part of a decade.

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This is really really not good. Not only, but certainly also because they have a little daughter.

All the best, get well soon, Yulian!

 

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@darth reapius You and your mates did this woman a disservice by not being brutally honest with her and telling her that she simply wasn't funny.  Or maybe you did and she refused to listen. This seems equally plausible.

As for William Christian Williams, he fancies himself something of a sailing philosopher. Some like it, some don't.  I do think that singlehanding to Hawaii and back is noteworthy. Many people sail to Hawaii and won't sail back, let alone do it singlehanded.  I do think the degree of affinity for Williams is generational.

I have enjoyed corresponding with the "Bums on a Boat."  They are decidedly less "Bummy" and more squared away now. They completed a lengthy refurb of their dilapidated Carter 36 in Luperon and the boat is fairly in shape now. Their channel is mostly drama-free. No babies, a bit of mooring drag during a passing hurricane, learning to sail a Laser and learning to scuba dive. They have gone from dangerously clueless to educated enough that now they are almost too conservative. 

They are doomed to failure because the girl doesn't flash her assets in a suggestive way, they don't generate false inter-personal drama and they don't generate enough situational drama. They're just young people living their lives and learning.

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My new favorite is these guys.  No babies, cute girl, smart couple, cruising the MED.  The learn some things and talk about places that I want to go.  Did I mention no babies.

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Sounds interesting.  I'll check the out.

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On 9/16/2020 at 5:50 PM, andykane said:

But that wouldn't fit with their minimalistic desires.

Seriously though, I'm curious how their nightmare repair will turn out - it might help ease my "grid-a-phobia". Despite their complaints, I was impressed how easily the interior came apart. I guess that's the benefit of modular construction.

Wow. I watched those 3 videos this morning because I am boatless and bored (my boat is at the yard for a repair I don’t want to try myself and - get this - it’s taking longer than planned). They are nice charming young people but this seems like a real tough repair for people brand new to boating. I had been considering a used Beneteau for my next boat despite all the compromises because they are nicely laid out for family and well priced for what you get. But after seeing them strip this thing down, and that failure from a grounding, there’s no way. If they fix this boat I suppose they will get a 49 footer for close to half the street price, but this could easily fail, or float but be uninsurable. I’d personally never trust that boat. Pretty functional production boats though, it they haven’t taken a hard bump.

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I'm not an engineer, so I am just thinking outside of the box.  Could yacht manufacturers make the keel tip end "destructible" as a source of energy absorption to spare the hull integrity so the grid doesn't get soo twisted and deformed? I think dealing with a bashed in keel is easier to deal with than the grid structure. Kind of like an "impact zone" to spare the rest of the structure. Maybe I am not making sense.  

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Certainly you can make a shoe for the keel that fails but what good is it if the point of impact is above the shoe?

When you rotate the keel on a grid boat it's possible to delam the grid from the hull.  The problem is it's difficult to inspect and more difficult to repair.

But there are thousands of them sailing and their modular construction makes them affordable. So keep the thing of the bricks and enjoy.

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4 minutes ago, Bryanjb said:

But there are thousands of them sailing and their modular construction makes them affordable. So keep the thing of the bricks and enjoy.

Yeah and engineering a decent grid/hull/keel attachment system might add all of 2% to the cost of production, but nobody sees it and if nothing ever goes wrong, it doesn't matter.

And if it does - that's why you have insurance...

FKT

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1 hour ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Yeah and engineering a decent grid/hull/keel attachment system might add all of 2% to the cost of production, but nobody sees it and if nothing ever goes wrong, it doesn't matter.

And if it does - that's why you have insurance...

FKT

Or a liferaft.

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16 hours ago, Ajax said:

@darth reapius You and your mates did this woman a disservice by not being brutally honest with her and telling her that she simply wasn't funny.  Or maybe you did and she refused to listen. This seems equally plausible.

 

Oh it was 100% a (strange to me) mix of approval seeking from a greater crowd, nothing better to do and her being the smartest funniest person she knew.

I certainly didn't lie to her, but I cannot guarantee that for the people I knew who were just chasing some ass.

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32 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Oh it was 100% a (strange to me) mix of approval seeking from a greater crowd, nothing better to do and her being the smartest funniest person she knew.

I certainly didn't lie to her, but I cannot guarantee that for the people I knew who were just chasing some ass.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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On 9/16/2020 at 4:11 PM, loneshark64 said:

Sometime somewhere someone made the fatal mistake of telling this guy he was interesting. I watched his videos of going to Hawaii a couple years ago and came away with the impression that he had discovered the island chain personally, as anointed by God, a feat second only to the Neolithic discovery of fire and Neil Armstrong setting foot upon the moon. He did a solid 15 minutes on cooking up a can of soup, all the while waxing lyrical about the timeless karmic value of cooking your own soup on a boat, quoting Shakespeare, Homer, Carl Jung and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. The full name of this channel is actually “Why we sail single handed: because nobody wants to be locked in a fiberglass box with me listening to this pompous bullshit for days on end.”

He sounds like someone who listened to too much "The Vinyl Cafe", and thinks everybody talks like that.

 

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On 9/17/2020 at 8:10 AM, Ajax said:

They are doomed to failure because the girl doesn't flash her assets in a suggestive way, they don't generate false inter-personal drama and they don't generate enough situational drama. They're just young people living their lives and learning.

While they may not be rewarded monetarily, to me this sounds not like failure, but instead - great success. :) More power to them!

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On 9/16/2020 at 12:11 PM, loneshark64 said:

Sometime somewhere someone made the fatal mistake of telling this guy he was interesting. I watched his videos of going to Hawaii a couple years ago and came away with the impression that he had discovered the island chain personally, as anointed by God, a feat second only to the Neolithic discovery of fire and Neil Armstrong setting foot upon the moon. He did a solid 15 minutes on cooking up a can of soup, all the while waxing lyrical about the timeless karmic value of cooking your own soup on a boat, quoting Shakespeare, Homer, Carl Jung and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. The full name of this channel is actually “Why we sail single handed: because nobody wants to be locked in a fiberglass box with me listening to this pompous bullshit for days on end.”

Okay, I'm going to step up to Christian's defense here. Watch his solo sailing to Hawaii vids. There are enough sailing details to keep them interesting and to put his philosophizing in context. The man sailed with Ted Turner and knows his stuff. To write him off is a mistake. His videos teaching his grown daughter to handle a larger boat than she's used to are also very good. 

He's had a recent run of solo vids in and out of his local waters that are definitely too heavy on the musings and Big Thoughts but, like the rest of us, I think he's going stir crazy with the social distancing and isolation, so I give him a pass. I suspect that the first thing he'll do once a vaccine is released is hop on that boat and head west to the islands again. I'm looking forward to watching the resulting videos. 

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2 hours ago, CapnK said:

While they may not be rewarded monetarily, to me this sounds not like failure, but instead - great success. :) More power to them!

then watch as the videos start to dry up

 

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15 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

Could yacht manufacturers make the keel tip end "destructible" as a source of energy absorption to spare the hull integrity so the grid doesn't get soo twisted and deformed?

Adding any breakaway or deformable structure could sacrifice the goal of keeping weight as low as possible, unless the part that breaks off is a piece of sacrificial lead.  Some stability would be lost if the bulb detaches, of course, but it might save the hull - provided that contact is near the lowest point.

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On 9/16/2020 at 12:11 PM, loneshark64 said:

Sometime somewhere someone made the fatal mistake of telling this guy he was interesting...quoting Shakespeare, Homer, Carl Jung and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. 

It’s also possible that you are shallow and entirely unreflective.

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On 9/17/2020 at 8:03 AM, Dogscout said:

 

No babies, cute girl, smart couple, cruising the MED.  The learn some things and talk about places that I want to go.  Did I mention no babies.

True - those are indeed pluses in what is a genre of generally un-noteworthy videos.

But the bar has been set extremely low, for —let’s be honest here—  this vid, like 99% of all sailing vloggers’ output, is quite boring.  
 

 

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On 9/17/2020 at 9:03 AM, Dogscout said:

 

My new favorite is these guys.  No babies, cute girl, smart couple, cruising the MED.  The learn some things and talk about places that I want to go.  Did I mention no babies.

Some earlier observations re: STLT.

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Up close and personal with Sting Rays and other things, these guys are getting good at this. (not a baby in sight!)

 

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21 hours ago, p2x4x said:

It’s also possible that you are shallow and entirely unreflective.

It is possible. Perhaps even likely. But how would I know, being unreflective and all?

I can handle the criticism and I’m sure Christian Williams can too, hell, he was arts critic at the Washington Post.

Sometimes I think it would be easier if we could be like the Brits on this forum and call just each other cunts and get on with life. Anyway, upon reflection, the video is still tedious. 

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10 hours ago, OPAL said:

Up close and personal with Sting Rays and other things, these guys are getting good at this. (not a baby in sight!)

 

That's what i'm talking about!

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On 9/16/2020 at 12:58 PM, Ajax said:

Years ago on Sailnet, there was a young couple who restored an Alberg 30 to a "fresh off the showroom floor" level and moved aboard.

They absolutely hated it, sold it, and moved on. One of the biggest things they hated was the fact that the toilet was literally inches from their heads when they were in the v-berth even though there was a bulkhead separating them.

I remember that guy. Definite PA type. Pure craziness.

But he did a hell of a job on that boat.

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There is that smell again ... WTF is that stink?

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1 hour ago, Israel Hands said:

Sad day for 9to5less fans. Giggles is gone!

 

Old news. Squeaky has showed up over in SA with her side of the story. Last couple of pages...

 

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On 9/17/2020 at 1:03 AM, MauiPunter said:

He is like a sailing Andy Rooney.  My dad thinks he is a kick and he's 80.  lol.  Maybe its an old guy thing.  I watch him with my dad which probably makes me enjoy it more since he does too.

 

/th'd drift

Made me giggle, my old fart dad is only 78.  And loves to pontificate, and this COVID year loves when I bring up old Andy Rooney bits.

 

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4 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Old news. Squeaky has showed up over in SA with her side of the story. Last couple of pages...

 

Just imagine the shitshow Delos will become if they split?  Or LaVag?  What are the rules in Oz, do you need to blur an ass in a bikini or just blur the face?

To quote Ivana, don't get even.  Get half.

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1 hour ago, Dilligaf0220 said:

Just imagine the shitshow Delos will become if they split?  Or LaVag?  What are the rules in Oz, do you need to blur an ass in a bikini or just blur the face?

To quote Ivanka, don't get even.  Get 38D.

Butchered.

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On 9/20/2020 at 1:26 PM, Diarmuid said:

Don't recall seeing this one.

Cuteness overload!

 

 

There is nothing fucking cute about a big, long steel FAD anchored at 4000 meters...oh, you mean...

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Saw this one recc'd in the replies to 9to5 breakup video, this apparently 1-year-old series is about TnA TrAveling - by boat, mostly. Boat apparently fueled by bikinis. In the About it says "Laura from Traveling Doodles". Never watched that channel, so not sure of the dramatical derivation. Another break up/YT spin off?
 

 

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Good grief. I love a nice ass as much as anyone but that thumbnail is just obnoxious. Belongs on Pornhub.

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4 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Good grief. I love a nice ass as much as anyone but that thumbnail is just obnoxious. Belongs on Pornhub.

She's working the bikini angle in nearly every one. It's like she reads this thread and pays attention to what Dylan has to say WRT the YT algorithm...

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18 minutes ago, CapnK said:

She's working the bikini angle in nearly every one. It's like she reads this thread and pays attention to what Dylan has to say WRT the YT algorithm...

they know much more about the algorithm than I do I am sure

of course there is no single algorithm - in some ways each of us has our own

the bikini ass thumbnail film   - well shot by the way - has been up for ten days and has only had 18,000 hits - worth about $36 in revenue

they are really milking the bikini thing - and why not?

https://www.youtube.com/c/LaLaLibra/videos

the latest uma has been up for a similar time and has had 174,000 hits

worth about $400 in youtube revenue

 

 

on that basis my films at $1 a paypal pop from old real sailors are doing better than bikini ass but not quite as well as uma -

of course the patreon cash for 'exclusive' videos changes everything.

 

D

 

 

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Wow, it's good to hear that you're at least somewhat competitive when working with your own model.

It's mind-blowing that 174,000 hits is only worth $400.

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The real money is in the Patreon folks who are paying directly.

Say 200 people who pay $5/video (lowest level on their Patreon page) x 4 videos month = $4000 / month

That's a nice income. I rather suspect they have many more Patreons supporting them.

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That's $11,145 per video at $5/each. Hell, I could release one video every 2 months and live nicely.

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21 minutes ago, Ajax said:

That's $11,145 per video at $5/each. Hell, I could release one video every 2 months and live nicely.

Yeah but you have to release one every few days for a while and cultivate the hell out of your other channels' users and subscribers before you get those kind of patreon numbers.  Grinders do well.

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1 minute ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Yeah but you have to release one every few days for a while and cultivate the hell out of your other channels' users and subscribers before you get those kind of patreon numbers.  Grinders do well.

This sounds suspiciously like "work."

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5 hours ago, CapnK said:

Saw this one recc'd in the replies to 9to5 breakup video, this apparently 1-year-old series is about TnA TrAveling - by boat, mostly. Boat apparently fueled by bikinis. In the About it says "Laura from Traveling Doodles". Never watched that channel, so not sure of the dramatical derivation. Another break up/YT spin off?
 

 

That's what I'm talking about! not one but two bikinis all the time!

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5 minutes ago, chester said:

That's what I'm talking about! not one but two bikinis all the time!

and the men/man behind the camera is staying out of the pictures

this is a novel approach

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Just now, dylan winter said:

and the men/man behind the camera is staying out of the pictures

this is a novel approach

D

it's the right approach!  Goodonem, as you say.

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The Uma channel is really awesome.  Very little TnA, and they really go places, sail, and do stuff.   I watch them every week.  They are in Norway the moment.  

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8 hours ago, dylan winter said:

the shots of one of them, legs to the fore,  reading a book for 45 seconds while music played  was a bit weird

Dylan

 

Catering to the foot fetish crowd?

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On 9/17/2020 at 10:20 PM, MauiPunter said:

I'm not an engineer, so I am just thinking outside of the box.  Could yacht manufacturers make the keel tip end "destructible" as a source of energy absorption to spare the hull integrity so the grid doesn't get soo twisted and deformed? I think dealing with a bashed in keel is easier to deal with than the grid structure. Kind of like an "impact zone" to spare the rest of the structure. Maybe I am not making sense.  

Check out the “Crash Safe Bulb”

http://www.apm-keels.com/

 

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3 minutes ago, m.fournier said:

Check out the “Crash Safe Bulb”

http://www.apm-keels.com/

 

That's exactly what I was envisioning.  I guess I am not so crazy.  lol.

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Not really sure how much impact the Crash Safe Bulb can absorb on a 218 foot ketch that weighs 485,060 pounds. (183,000 pound ballast)

The boat is over twice as long and heavy as a blue whale and if it comes near the 17 knots of hull speed, that would be one hell of a collision.

 

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2 hours ago, svitale said:

Not really sure how much impact the Crash Safe Bulb can absorb on a 218 foot ketch that weighs 485,060 pounds. (183,000 pound ballast)

The boat is over twice as long and heavy as a blue whale and if it comes near the 17 knots of hull speed, that would be one hell of a collision.

 

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Ok, this is one of those things that if it wasn't on video you wouldn't believe the fish story.  Troy on Free Range Sailing was fishing on the side of a river.  He gets a fish on and it breaks off his lure.  He had just talked about his line breaking and losing a bunch of lures.  I won't spoil it but what happens next is unreal!  The fishing starts about 7 minutes in.  Episode 28.  It is a couple years old, but I have just kind of randomly been going through them as they pop up on my feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXoMvLU_DE&t=1335s

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5 hours ago, efrank said:

Ok, this is one of those things that if it wasn't on video you wouldn't believe the fish story.  Troy on Free Range Sailing was fishing on the side of a river.  He gets a fish on and it breaks off his lure.  He had just talked about his line breaking and losing a bunch of lures.  I won't spoil it but what happens next is unreal!  The fishing starts about 7 minutes in.  Episode 28.  It is a couple years old, but I have just kind of randomly been going through them as they pop up on my feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXoMvLU_DE&t=1335s

For reference, set the video at the point you want to share, right click on the video, select "copy URL at current time".

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The power of the thumbnail

 

Wildings, who until now have kept their kit on and been punished with 10,000 hits per film, have changed course and this has resulted in a ten fold increase in in hits

 

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Well deserved. It is a very nice thumbnail.

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5 hours ago, dylan winter said:

The power of the thumbnail

 

Wildings, who until now have kept their kit on and been punished with 10,000 hits per film, have changed course and this has resulted in a ten fold increase in in hits

 

 

Do you ever wonder what the discussion is like between these cruising couples who start out *not* showing TnA and then do it later?

"We're starving."

"What should we do?"

"You could take off your clothes?"

I mean, I imagine that some of the women crave attention and they're fine with it.  I wonder if others do it grudgingly because it's not in their personality makeup.

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They are kind of goofballs, but they have a good attitude and are not completely incompetent.  The consensus was Mrs Wilding would never get over her seasickness, but she's from Western China and survived the UK, so I'd thought she'll make it.  I wonder if they'll get out of the Med. 

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you are dead right

 

I think that managing a successful sailing marriage is one of the hardest things us sailors do.

Nav, fettling, paperwork and emergency prep are dead simple

 

the added pressure of allowing the relationship to unfold in weekly 15 minute gobbets of youtbe fodder and then to have to edit the unpleasant youtube coments (and there will be comments) must make relationship negotiations even tougher

D

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4 hours ago, dylan winter said:

you are dead right

 

I think that managing a successful sailing marriage is one of the hardest things us sailors do.

Nav, fettling, paperwork and emergency prep are dead simple

 

the added pressure of allowing the relationship to unfold in weekly 15 minute gobbets of youtbe fodder and then to have to edit the unpleasant youtube coments (and there will be comments) must make relationship negotiations even tougher

D

I agree. Any hidden fracture lines in your marriage will be uncovered by sailing in a way few other activities can. By the same token, if you succeed, you can achieve a level of closeness, trust and partnership that few other things permit. 

I sometimes think about your monologue about crossing in the night in a building blow with your wife sleeping below in complete trust.  

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2 hours ago, Elegua said:

I agree. Any hidden fracture lines in your marriage will be uncovered by sailing in a way few other activities can. By the same token, if you succeed, you can achieve a level of closeness, trust and partnership that few other things permit. 

I sometimes think about your monologue about crossing in the night in a building blow with your wife sleeping below in complete trust.  

She is the daughter of a sailor

Both yachts and RN

She came to me fully trained

she can hold a course,  cook good food on one ring, loves rowing, can double declutch a land rover and happy to tow a trailer and even have a crack at reversing

She is also happy for me to dissappear for weeks on end as her dad did

she thinks it is  a perfectly normal way to run a marriage

I am indeed blessed

d

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

She is the daughter of a sailor

Both yachts and RN

She came to me fully trained

she can hold a course,  cook good food on one ring, loves rowing, can double declutch a land rover and happy to tow a trailer and even have a crack at reversing

She is also happy for me to dissappear for weeks on end as her dad did

she thinks it is  a perfectly normal way to run a marriage

I am indeed blessed

d

I'm gettin' all misty-eyed!

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These guys look like they just made it from Fiji to Townsville, in Queensland, funny how there are different rules for Superyachts..

Anyway, this is a good example of a YouTube channel being useful

https://youtu.be/DTSm89Zze4Y

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9 hours ago, dylan winter said:

She is the daughter of a sailor

Both yachts and RN

She came to me fully trained

she can hold a course,  cook good food on one ring, loves rowing, can double declutch a land rover and happy to tow a trailer and even have a crack at reversing

She is also happy for me to dissappear for weeks on end as her dad did

she thinks it is  a perfectly normal way to run a marriage

I am indeed blessed

d

You lucky lucky man. Marvellous.

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I nearly killed my then-girlfriend (and crew) during a stormy overnight race.

Unbeknownst to her, a precious family heirloom engagement ring was stuffed in a drawer below. I proposed at sunset in a nice marina a couple days later and she said yes.  I knew the race was still fresh in her mind, so if she said yes, it was meant to be.

We got married at a historic lighthouse on the Chesapeake. It's in private hands but it's still lit. We sail past it often and it always reminds us of that incredible weekend.

She really is good crew. I trust her. I tell her that all the time. We race together, doublehanded with a symmetric chute. It drives me nuts that she doubts herself.  When she observes other wives that can't or won't touch a sheet or hold the tiller for a few minutes, *then* she puffs up with pride about her skills. I just wish she felt that confident all the time.

I'm looking forward to getting her into the Atlantic next summer, and to Maine.

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22 hours ago, Ajax said:

 

Do you ever wonder what the discussion is like between these cruising couples who start out *not* showing TnA and then do it later?

"We're starving."

"What should we do?"

"You could take off your clothes?"

I mean, I imagine that some of the women crave attention and they're fine with it.  I wonder if others do it grudgingly because it's not in their personality makeup.

Yep.  Goes back to the girl jamming the winch handle in her butcrack and wiggling a couple months ago.  I asked the same question.  How do you propose simulated sex with a winch handle in a polite manner.  "Hey honey?  We get more hits when you pretend to fuck the boat.  Wiggle a little more.  Next week we'll set up the spin pole and let you pole dance it on the foredeck."

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15 hours ago, dylan winter said:

She is the daughter of a sailor

Both yachts and RN

She came to me fully trained

she can hold a course,  cook good food on one ring, loves rowing, can double declutch a land rover and happy to tow a trailer and even have a crack at reversing

She is also happy for me to dissappear for weeks on end as her dad did

she thinks it is  a perfectly normal way to run a marriage

I am indeed blessed

d

Does she have a sister?

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3 minutes ago, Dogscout said:

Does she have a sister?

she is the middle of three siblings

the other two are male - both really outdoor types

one grew up to be a soil scientist and the other a forester

camping, cycling, sailing was the way they seemed to spend their leisure time

I assume it was not easy competing with them

D

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Yeah, my then girlfriend-now- wife's first time on a sail boat, or any boat really,  was a two week cruise in Maine in early June with my two teenage children from another marriage on a boat that leaked in the rain, with no dodger, and starter motor trouble.  

She went from being a country head of a large MNC in Korea to managing three idiots.   

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I have a sailing influenced partnership, too. Our first date was sailing (3 boats ago). I think it is the quality of life that a sailing family shares, that further cements their bonds. (And, I will never see an Egg Banjo passed through this companionway).

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I see an egg banjo as a man thing

While on the subject.....

A Canadian friend made egg banjos with a layer of processed cheese and densely sprinkled with mildly crushed salt and vinegar crisps

Jolly good mouth feel

I commend it to you

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4 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

I have a sailing influenced partnership, too. Our first date was sailing (3 boats ago). I think it is the quality of life that a sailing family shares, that further cements their bonds. (And, I will never see an Egg Banjo passed through this companionway).

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I hear french toast can be pretty good on a boat.

 

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17 hours ago, Ajax said:

I nearly killed my then-girlfriend (and crew) during a stormy overnight race.

Unbeknownst to her, a precious family heirloom engagement ring was stuffed in a drawer below. I proposed at sunset in a nice marina a couple days later and she said yes.  I knew the race was still fresh in her mind, so if she said yes, it was meant to be.

We got married at a historic lighthouse on the Chesapeake. It's in private hands but it's still lit. We sail past it often and it always reminds us of that incredible weekend.

She really is good crew. I trust her. I tell her that all the time. We race together, doublehanded with a symmetric chute. It drives me nuts that she doubts herself.  When she observes other wives that can't or won't touch a sheet or hold the tiller for a few minutes, *then* she puffs up with pride about her skills. I just wish she felt that confident all the time.

I'm looking forward to getting her into the Atlantic next summer, and to Maine.

We live on the Straits of Juan de Fuca and look out to the west, my wife when we are on the boat wants to take a right turn and head out and not come back.  I know a lot of couples my age who have gone to the dark side, my wife says when we are having nice sail "you wouldn't ever consider a power boat would you?" I love that she has no interest in going to the dark side.  Life's little pleasures and no, power boats are not on my radar.  An old friend who had an 8 metre was getting pretty old in Seattle years ago, I asked him if he ever considered getting trawler.  He said "when I can't put the sails on this boat I am just going motor her around".  No stinking power boat for him or us.  Met my wife cruising in Desolation Sound, I was single and single handing, she was platonically on a friends boat, life is good.

 

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Slight-ish thread drift - but not really, since this whole thread is premised on YouTube, search algorithms, and that fucking thing called infinite scroll...(thanks so much, persuasiveness technology folks in your labs at Stanford and elsewhere, exploring vulnerabilities in human psychology...)

Not perfect, but a great starting point - very well worth watching (just try to ignore the sometimes over-dramatic music):

 

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Seadog's latest. Hat's off to the honesty.

On passage to New Zealand the Old Seadog reaches a pivotal point in the journey. A time to celebrate a lifetime achievement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UH8VEyqqvI

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