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Auckland, NZ vs. Newport, RI

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

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Travel, broaden you horizons and your mind, form your own opinions.

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no sheep fuckers in Newport that I know of.......

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Auckland also has a bridge.

 

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no sheep fuckers in Newport that I know of.......

There are plenty of kiwis in Newport...

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another

 

debate....

 

Some Pix would Really help

 

of her :)

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

 

Absolutely nothing compares to Sydney.

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Never been to the states but I race in Auckland a bit. Auckland has the same problems as else ware including the move from cruiser/racers to racers or cruisers, not enough kids getting into keelboats etc, however we have the southern hemesphers biggest marina right in the city which is cool. On any given Wednesday night throughout the summer you will see over 100 boats racing, including up to 4 foiling cats, up to 12 fast 52s etc, and these boats are in top spec and raced hard by top sailers. Pretty awesome stuff but as said, I've never been to the opposing harbour.

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I always found the sailing scene in Auckland weird.

 

More people racing keel boats on Wednesday night than on the weekend.

To many clubs with overlapping schedules, facilities etc (often located within metres of each other on the shore and water) resulting in small fleets on a busy harbour.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

 

Absolutely nothing compares to Sydney.

Except for San Francisco.

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no sheep fuckers in Newport that I know of.......

I'm sure I've seen a few at the bar last time I was there.

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Depends what your criteria for 'better' is. I've not been to Newport

 

Better boats? Most of ours are 30+ years old.

 

Better crew? Well ........ the skills here ain't getting better judging from the number of skids you see if it blows more than 20 knots.

 

The winter series has more boats than summer. 180+ at the Squadron. Pretty mild weather with temps ranging from 10 to 16 degrees C

 

Wednesday nights have bigger fleets than weekend racing as more yachties stay home/spend time with family

 

Waste of time trying to argue the toss IMHO

 

If people are out there doing it, it doesn't really matter where?

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Sailed both many times.

Auckland by a landslide.

 

Narraganset Bay is nice, but Haukari Bay blows it away.

More interesting place to sail to. Variety I guess would be a better term.

 

Newport is a 2 bit burg of town. When I blew a heater hose from the motor to water heater a couple years ago, I had to wait 4 fucking hours to get a new piece delivered because there is no auto parts store in town (had to come from next town). That would never happen in Auckland.

There marine industry has deep coverage especially when you look at the size of the city.

If they ain't got it, they will make it for you.

 

Auckland is a world class city though small (like Ottawa).

Great nightlife, restaurants etc.

Newport ain't shit..

handful of places to eat.

 

In Auckland, everyone is into boats.

The newspapers and tv cover the AC in detail.

In Newport, the percentage of boaters is much less and WJAR (closest tv station) tells folks about the crooks in Boston and Providence.

 

Newport has several boatyards. Auckland has the AC pens.

Auckland has winning big boats mounted in town on pedestals.

Newport has winos mounting prostitutes.

Newport has snow in winter, not Auckland..

 

About the only thing Newport beats Auckland on is having Dunkin Donuts on every corner and a shorter ride to a Bruins game.

 

Suggest you check Auckland out.

I am taking the family there in a couple weeks for the holidays.

Newport never made the short list...

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Come sailing with me while you are in town foreverslow. Friday rum races 4.30 start. Bring the family along too.

 

 

Auckland has absolutely stunning cruising grounds as well as pretty good racing. Been to Newport a few times but can't say I know it very well.

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within a 100nm from auckland

 

there are an amazing number of bays

 

and the southern hemisphere delivers the winds

 

to get to them

 

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Come sailing with me while you are in town foreverslow. Friday rum races 4.30 start. Bring the family along too.

Auckland has absolutely stunning cruising grounds as well as pretty good racing. Been to Newport a few times but can't say I know it very well.

Take ear plugs, BooBoo has an impressive sound system!

 

And RUM!

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Come sailing with me while you are in town foreverslow. Friday rum races 4.30 start. Bring the family along too.

Auckland has absolutely stunning cruising grounds as well as pretty good racing. Been to Newport a few times but can't say I know it very well.

Take ear plugs, BooBoo has an impressive sound system!

 

And RUM!

 

 

with disco lights to go

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Sailed both many times.

Auckland by a landslide.

 

Narraganset Bay is nice, but Haukari Bay blows it away.

More interesting place to sail to. Variety I guess would be a better term.

 

Newport is a 2 bit burg of town. When I blew a heater hose from the motor to water heater a couple years ago, I had to wait 4 fucking hours to get a new piece delivered because there is no auto parts store in town (had to come from next town). That would never happen in Auckland.

There marine industry has deep coverage especially when you look at the size of the city.

If they ain't got it, they will make it for you.

 

Auckland is a world class city though small (like Ottawa).

Great nightlife, restaurants etc.

Newport ain't shit..

handful of places to eat.

 

In Auckland, everyone is into boats.

The newspapers and tv cover the AC in detail.

In Newport, the percentage of boaters is much less and WJAR (closest tv station) tells folks about the crooks in Boston and Providence.

 

Newport has several boatyards. Auckland has the AC pens.

Auckland has winning big boats mounted in town on pedestals.

Newport has winos mounting prostitutes.

Newport has snow in winter, not Auckland..

 

About the only thing Newport beats Auckland on is having Dunkin Donuts on every corner and a shorter ride to a Bruins game.

 

Suggest you check Auckland out.

I am taking the family there in a couple weeks for the holidays.

Newport never made the short list...

 

Thanks for the detailed answer ForeverSlow. That's what I was looking for haha. I'll be showing this answer to the girl I'm debating with haha.

 

I've been to Auckland before and toured the city, but I was only a transient and never have had the opportunity to sail there. Each time I was on my way to Christchurch on the south island for a conference or for work. However, I did recently find an engineering job in Auckland and am waiting the official offer letter (they told me in an email that they would be giving me one soon).

 

For the Kiwis reading this: I think I'll be moving in January. What yacht club(s) would be best for a single guy in his 20s who likes trapezing catamarans? I'd also like to get into 49er sailing if I can.

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For the Kiwis reading this: I think I'll be moving in January. What yacht club(s) would be best for a single guy in his 20s who likes trapezing catamarans? I'd also like to get into 49er sailing if I can.

 

 

akarana if you want 49s and trapezing cats

 

http://rayc.co.nz/

 

the nzmyc if you want to move up to the 8.5 cats

 

http://www.multihull.org.nz/

 

and - or the rnzys

 

http://www.rnzys.org.nz/

 

but there are many, many more

 

a lot will depend on where you end up living, if you buy a boat, where your keep it

 

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeListings.aspx?mcatpath=trade-me-motors%2fboats-marine%2fyachts%2fmultihull&user_region=100&user_district=0

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

Absolutely nothing compares to Sydney.

Except for San Francisco.

 

Or The Solent.

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akarana if you want 49s and trapezing cats

Are there still cats at Akarana. We moved the F18s there 12 years ago because they had available boat parks, would give us a start etc (and Matt was already on the committee) but I can't see any cats mentioned on their website any more.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

Absolutely nothing compares to Sydney.

Except for San Francisco.

 

Or The Solent.

 

The Solent is pretty great isn't it

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Do you know why you can not get a decent blow job in Auckland these days? All the cocksuckers are sailing in Newport.

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Come sailing with me while you are in town foreverslow. Friday rum races 4.30 start. Bring the family along too.

Auckland has absolutely stunning cruising grounds as well as pretty good racing. Been to Newport a few times but can't say I know it very well.

Take ear plugs, BooBoo has an impressive sound system!

 

And RUM!

 

Rum is not a problem.

It is running out that is a problem..

 

I keep a cabinet of the stuff.

Do A:B comparisons with friends at half time of football games.

Should have seen the time when the wives came over with their husbands for my annual Superbowl extravaganza and I decided to have some fun.

They are tossing down shots of 2 different rums.

Finally one asked what kind she was drinking

I replied "Ron deJeramy Dark. God bless that boy came out of his stroke no worst for wear."

should have seen some the bitches spitting when they heard it was from Ron deJeramy.. ;<) :<)

Us guys were laughing our asses off.

At that point, we knew whose old ladies watch porno..

 

http://www.rondejeremy.com/

 

Anyways I just may take you up on the offer.

Never travel without my sailing gloves.

 

forever

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Auckland for sure. Hauraki gulf is gorgeous, and the city isn't filled with intolerable self-important douchebags in khakis and cable knit sweaters.

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Newport is a legendary sailing town, but Auckland is the city of sails. Nuff said

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Cant compare as havent been to Newport but many reports from visitors say the same thing; Auckland is pretty good because its windy and has an interesting topography, lots of islands and friendly sailors. Just gets a bit fresh in winter if you prefer the tropics but summer is spectacular.

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Cant compare as havent been to Newport but many reports from visitors say the same thing; Auckland is pretty good because its windy and has an interesting topography, lots of islands and friendly sailors. Just gets a bit fresh in winter if you prefer the tropics but summer is spectacular.

I find winter here is either glassed off or blowing dogs of chains, either way challenging but not much fun.

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Sailed both many times.

Auckland by a landslide.

 

Narraganset Bay is nice, but Haukari Bay blows it away.

More interesting place to sail to. Variety I guess would be a better term.

 

Newport is a 2 bit burg of town. When I blew a heater hose from the motor to water heater a couple years ago, I had to wait 4 fucking hours to get a new piece delivered because there is no auto parts store in town (had to come from next town). That would never happen in Auckland.

There marine industry has deep coverage especially when you look at the size of the city.

If they ain't got it, they will make it for you.

 

Auckland is a world class city though small (like Ottawa).

Great nightlife, restaurants etc.

Newport ain't shit..

handful of places to eat.

 

In Auckland, everyone is into boats.

The newspapers and tv cover the AC in detail.

In Newport, the percentage of boaters is much less and WJAR (closest tv station) tells folks about the crooks in Boston and Providence.

 

Newport has several boatyards. Auckland has the AC pens.

Auckland has winning big boats mounted in town on pedestals.

Newport has winos mounting prostitutes.

Newport has snow in winter, not Auckland..

 

About the only thing Newport beats Auckland on is having Dunkin Donuts on every corner and a shorter ride to a Bruins game.

 

Suggest you check Auckland out.

I am taking the family there in a couple weeks for the holidays.

Newport never made the short list...

 

We didn't come down to Auckland to sail there, but we spent a year on our boat in NZ. I spent years living in sight of the Newport bridge, though again I did not keep my boat there I sailed in the area a lot.

 

There are a few caveats to your argument.

 

Yes, you can "get stuff" in Auckland. You can not get it any faster there than in Newport. And you DEFINITELY can't get it cheaper. That $400 doo-hickey you got delivered in Auckland will cost you $180 USD in the US and get there as quickly. You just did not know where to go, Aquidneck island has lots of resources. And within 90 minutes of Newport you have WAY more to draw on.

 

In New Zealand if you need something...maybe someone can "messenger it up" from Auckland the next day. Defender delivers UPS ground to Newport the next day, no question. So I can get a replacement seat for a Jabsco head for $50USD plus $8 shipping tomorrow. In NZ, they want $230 Kiwibucks for that same thing...special order.

 

Seriously, having maintained the EXACT SAME BOAT in both countries, there is absolutely, positively no way that you can compare the accessibility to parts, supplies, services, etc. between NZ and the Northeast US. There's a lot of stuff you just can't get in NZ, or you have to import from Oz, and no matter what it will cost more. Three cheers for my TIE for GST exemption though, you guys do that right (I'm talking to you, Australia).

 

And don't get me started on bids for work to be done. You lot are by and large far too polite and passive-aggressive to give a big scary quote. Usually it's hand waving and progress billing which is maddening when something goes over time and budget. Though the one guy that DID give me an hard quote was absolutely brilliant and hit the numbers spot on and did flawless work. The quality of your services are quite high. But, on the whole, it's no better than the US. Nor is it more available.

 

The cruising grounds are very nice around NZ. I don't think they are hugely more awesome than what you can find within a day's sail of Newport though. They are very nice, don't get me wrong and New Zealand is gorgeous. But they don't 'blow it away'. We spent our time up in the BOI though, and didn't make Great Barrier Island. Maybe there is something there there that blows away Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, or the Elizabeth Islands. But I've seen what you all rave about up in Northland, so I don't think it is that much more superior. Lovely and comparable, to sure...but that doesn't mean it's better.

 

Where NZ really shines is in the percentage engagement of sailing in the population. The US certainly has more sailors. But as a percentage of the population we're a rounding error. Whereas you Kiwis have a measurable percentage of the population that sails. Hundreds of thousands, maybe even a million, makes a large chunk of a country with 5 Million people. We may have 5 million sailors, I don't know, but if we do as a percentage of the country that's something like 1.5%. So grab a random Kiwi and you get a good chance of a sailor, not so much with your random Yank. You get coverage on TV, you get stories in the paper much more so than the US. The Auckland Maritime museum is fantastic. We've got race boats outside in the states too, but in the next town over.

 

Yeah, Newport is a tiny waterfront town. But for it's size, it has an enormous sailing presence. People come from all over to sail out of Newport and keep boats there, though you can make a strong case her hey-dey is past with the cup's disappearance. And a straight Newport/Auckland comparison isn't entirely proper, since people that sail in Newport still have the entire resources of the Northeast to draw on for services, parts, supplies, etc. See note on Defender and toilet seats above - if you sail out of Newport the odds are still you aren't getting your work done or buying your parts and supplies there.

 

And let's talk about the Dunkin' Donuts in Auckland. Close them. And I mean fucking close them. Now. The Kiwis can keep their "flat whites" and "long blacks" and the other espresso drinks. There is absolutely no reason to have a Dunkin' Donuts in Auckland if they can not make a damned cup of Dunkin' Donuts coffee. Which is FILTER coffee, made with DD roast. It's not a Long Black with hot water dumped in it, which the Kiwis call and "Americano" based on the assumption that watered down espresso tastes anything like American filter coffee. It does not. Stop trying.

 

A Dunkin' Donuts in Auckland is a cruel joke to an American starved for a proper iced coffee instead of some fru-fru "Iced Coffee" shit full of ice cream and chocolate syrup with whipped cream on it. The pain is real. Make that stop. All I am asking for is black coffee, cold, dumped over ice. It's not that hard.

 

The best cup of American style coffee in Auckland is at the freaking Denny's. I shit you not. Bottomless cup of filter coffee; the only place we ever saw it there.

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In summary... at least for me

1) Nature is about the same, but to each his own.

2) More expensive to find parts/sail in Auckland than in Newport due to economies

3) Due to population percentages, sailing just seems more popular in NZ. I will admit this is a very well driven and good point.

4) I don't drink coffee.

 

Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated B.J. Porter :)

 

I think by this point, after all these responses. I've determined that the slight differences between the two cities are so miniscule that it's unimportant for me and her to be debating about it. I think it's just comes down to what kind of weather you prefer. Being from Texas, I definitely am anti-snow.

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In summary... at least for me

1) Nature is about the same, but to each his own.

2) More expensive to find parts/sail in Auckland than in Newport due to economies

3) Due to population percentages, sailing just seems more popular in NZ. I will admit this is a very well driven and good point.

4) I don't drink coffee.

 

Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated B.J. Porter :)

 

I think by this point, after all these responses. I've determined that the slight differences between the two cities are so miniscule that it's unimportant for me and her to be debating about it. I think it's just comes down to what kind of weather you prefer. Being from Texas, I definitely am anti-snow.

 

Auckland can be pretty raw in the winter, but they don't get a lot of snow.

 

This past season we didn't leave NZ until June, due to weather systems socking us in. It was getting...cold. But I'm pretty acclimated to warmer weather. When we first got to NZ after two years in the tropics we were wearing jeans, sweatshirts, etc. in the early NZ spring. The Kiwis were in shorts & T's.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about which sailing scene is better, Auckland, New Zealand or Newport, Rhode Island, USA's. I'm campaigning for Auckland, and she's campaigning for Newport. However, since neither of us has been to both, the debate never ends.

 

So, for those of you who have been to both places, which did you prefer and why?

 

Don't bring in any other cities into this (like Annapolis)... that's another debate....

You'll find kiwis in both venues and they'll tell you- wherever they are is the place to be

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no sheep fuckers in Newport that I know of.......

I'm sure I've seen a few at the bar last time I was there.

 

Maybe at the Wharf........never saw a sheep fucker at IYAC....1 or 2 owner's daughter's fuckers but no sheep fuckers

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Pretty even in my books, I have sailed in both, but I have sailed in Newport a fair bit more.

 

they are both hemispheric Mecca's for sailing.

 

They both have about as good a "support" for sailing as anywhere you'll find in the form of suppliers, club's, etc.

 

Auckland is pretty once you get past the shipping port, Newport is a bit prettier venue in the immediate vicinity of the clubs you tend to sail from.

 

It's about even on the liklihood of getting arrested for being a drunken sailor, in both towns you can likely talk your way out of most stupid shit you might do on a regatta weekend as both towns seem to appreciate sailors a fair bit.

 

Auckland is a proper city, almost, Newport doesn't pretend to be. Personally I like the small town feel of Newport especially if you're there for an event. Much more likely to run into people and socialize etc as everything tends to get more crammed together. I also happen to generally like the old East Coat Atlantic aesthetic and vibe from a City perspective.

 

They both have navigable water, tides, variable winds etc. So check for both of those. They both have lots of good fleets and lots of visiting events, they both make great leaping off points for bigger adventures.

 

So obviously it comes down to the only thing that matters, getting laid. I have had more fun in Newport than Auckland in that regard so clearly Newport wins.

 

Oh yeah and hot boxing the shit out of the gardeners shed with a few very well known sailors at the NYYC was hella fun, so there's that.

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They both have navigable water, tides, variable winds etc. So check for both of those. They both have lots of good fleets and lots of visiting events, they both make great leaping off points for bigger adventures.

 

So obviously it comes down to the only thing that matters, getting laid. I have had more fun in Newport than Auckland in that regard so clearly Newport wins.

 

All the guys who have been to NZ say that as an American, once I move to NZ, I'll make a killing on women.

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Re getting laid, my data set would be skewed as I was married at the time of all my visits to NZ and i was kind of focused on work. YMMV

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about

 

SA is kind of slow nowadays. I believe this is what we call flirting.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about

 

SA is kind of slow nowadays. I believe this is what we call flirting.

 

Well, she's 14 and I'm 23. So, with a 9 year age difference, I'm quite confident it's NOT flirting. We just happen to talk a lot because we are the only two people under 40-years-old at the yacht club.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about

 

SA is kind of slow nowadays. I believe this is what we call flirting.

 

Well, she's 14 and I'm 23. So, with a 9 year age difference, I'm quite confident it's NOT flirting. We just happen to talk a lot because we are the only two people under 40-years-old at the yacht club.

 

 

At least not from YOUR side :) But alright, it sounds nice and innocent.

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I've got an ongoing debate with a girl at our local yacht club about

 

SA is kind of slow nowadays. I believe this is what we call flirting.

 

Well, she's 14 and I'm 23. So, with a 9 year age difference, I'm quite confident it's NOT flirting. We just happen to talk a lot because we are the only two people under 40-years-old at the yacht club.

 

it will be in about 5 years

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Gotta agree with BJ about the coffee although my only NZ experience was in the airport terminal waiting to refuel on my way to Melbourne. The Aussies are just as bad. They both will serve instant coffee to unsuspecting Americans at $2 per. When you're down there drink tea or forget about it.

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Percentage wise Newport and Annapolis have to beat bigger places just because the town itself is small, so the sailing is a huge deal.

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Percentage wise Newport and Annapolis have to beat bigger places just because the town itself is small, so the sailing is a huge deal.

 

When talking about "Auckland" you're really reflecting on the nation, as almost 35% of New Zealand's population lives in Greater Auckland, and half the people on North Island.

 

Newport is a small town, you really need to consider the whole region that you can sail to and around.

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Gotta agree with BJ about the coffee although my only NZ experience was in the airport terminal waiting to refuel on my way to Melbourne. The Aussies are just as bad. They both will serve instant coffee to unsuspecting Americans at $2 per. When you're down there drink tea or forget about it.

 

Some super espresso machine salesman came to Oz/NZ years ago and screwed up the coffee scene on his way through Oceania.

 

The coffee is drinkable...but it's expensive, and it's all barista style stuff. You can't just get a "cup of coffee" per se, and the "bottomless cup" concept we Americans are used to is nonexistent. Plan to spend $4-5 for one cup of coffee. It's really not a good place to be a black coffee drinker, since the long/short blacks are IMHO quite bitter and not that tasty, and as previously mentioned the "Americano" is just stupid. So I end up with a "flat white" with a bunch of foamed milk I don't want because I don't like the Long Black.

 

"Iced coffee" in both places is the true horror though. It's a dessert, not a coffee drink.

 

You want a nice, crisp cold thirst quenching coffee. Black is my preference.

 

You order it, expecting something like this:

 

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What comes out is cold mess of ice cream, whipped cream, and milk:

 

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Thank God ETNZ had Nespresso as a sponsor, I could mainline whatever kind of coffee I wanted all day and night long.

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Funny that, we think american coffee is basically cats piss

 

There you go. It's all what you're used to. Of course, if you are a Kiwi and you drink an "Americano" you'd think that, because it just tastes like a weak version of your bitter and burned tasting "Long Black".

 

I'd never had ice cream, chocolate and whipped cream in an "Iced Coffee" until I got to NZ. I should have known something when it cost $8.00, but I *really* wanted an iced coffee. Oops.

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My first time in Auckland, I ate at some seafood restaurant near the ferry building. I ordered a lemonade and got sprite.

 

Later I had L&P, and oh my god is it a genius drink. If you don't know what it is, it's like root beer mixed with lemonade. I totally want it back.

 

Dr. Pepper was far and few in between in NZ though.

 

Still, regular lemonade isn't around like at all. I tear through the stuff.

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My first time in Auckland, I ate at some seafood restaurant near the ferry building. I ordered a lemonade and got sprite.

 

Later I had L&P, and oh my god is it a genius drink. If you don't know what it is, it's like root beer mixed with lemonade. I totally want it back.

 

Dr. Pepper was far and few in between in NZ though.

 

Still, regular lemonade isn't around like at all. I tear through the stuff.

 

"Lemonade" is Sprite, or the local Sprite analog, throughout much of the world.

 

The concept of lemon juice, water and sugar...not so common. Though you might like a "Lemon Squash" which is more like carbonated Lemonade than anything you'd get if you asked for lemonade.

 

L&P is good stuff, if you drink soda. What I really like is the "dry lemonade" we found as a mixer, which is absolutely fantastic with vodka in it. With gin...not so much!

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Kind of what I meant I think. Has the Parade of Lights idea spread down there? Seems perfect for NZ, seeing as Christmas is mid summer.

 

Percentage wise Newport and Annapolis have to beat bigger places just because the town itself is small, so the sailing is a huge deal.

 

When talking about "Auckland" you're really reflecting on the nation, as almost 35% of New Zealand's population lives in Greater Auckland, and half the people on North Island.

 

Newport is a small town, you really need to consider the whole region that you can sail to and around.

 

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Do you know why you can not get a decent blow job in Auckland these days? All the cocksuckers are sailing in Newport.

 

hey if you like blow jobs from sailors, more power !

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Buying coffee in NZ is geographically sensitive. The further you get from the hipster parts of town the higher the chance that the coffee is shit. Expect marshmallows at 3 km, by 5km you can spot an umbrella and after that you can guarantee sprinkles in descending order from cocoa powder to hundreds and thousands. Along with that the cups get bigger and the drinks milkier. Once you move out of Auckland, lets just say you're on your own brother.

 

For us filter coffee is what you get at a "coffee lounge" that and a lamington, which is a kind of 1950's style coconut covered cake. You swill the coffee and gobble the cake to take away the flavour of the cats piss. Life here for a coffee drinker is spectacular when its on, but it can be depressingly awful out in the 'burbs

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Kind of what I meant I think. Has the Parade of Lights idea spread down there? Seems perfect for NZ, seeing as Christmas is mid summer.

 

Percentage wise Newport and Annapolis have to beat bigger places just because the town itself is small, so the sailing is a huge deal.

 

When talking about "Auckland" you're really reflecting on the nation, as almost 35% of New Zealand's population lives in Greater Auckland, and half the people on North Island.

 

Newport is a small town, you really need to consider the whole region that you can sail to and around.

 

 

 

I don't know how that would work. Christmas in NZ feels a lot like Memorial Day in the state - it kicks off the summer. We spent two Christmas seasons there. People go out in their boats, they camp, they do family stuff.

 

The pageantry level, at least up North where we were, was almost non-existance. Maybe Auckland might be different.

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Buying coffee in NZ is geographically sensitive. The further you get from the hipster parts of town the higher the chance that the coffee is shit. Expect marshmallows at 3 km, by 5km you can spot an umbrella and after that you can guarantee sprinkles in descending order from cocoa powder to hundreds and thousands. Along with that the cups get bigger and the drinks milkier. Once you move out of Auckland, lets just say you're on your own brother.

 

For us filter coffee is what you get at a "coffee lounge" that and a lamington, which is a kind of 1950's style coconut covered cake. You swill the coffee and gobble the cake to take away the flavour of the cats piss. Life here for a coffee drinker is spectacular when its on, but it can be depressingly awful out in the 'burbs

 

My first experience ordering iced coffee in NZ was in Wellsford, on the drive from Northland down to Auckland. Well into the whip cream and sprinkles zone, though the pies were first rate the iced coffee was a weird and crushing disappointment.

 

Though not as bad as the soul destroying experience that was trying to get a coffee at a Dunkin' Donuts in Auckland.

 

I really didn't see much filter coffee anywhere, and when I did, I tried it. Not well made, not good stuff. Usually weak. As mentioned earlier, the only thing closely approaching the American coffee experience was at Denny's.

 

We use a French press on board, which does well enough.

 

Some of the best "iced coffee" approaching American style was at a Mexican cafe in Paihia. It was essentially a long block over ice, but they didn't try to fuck it all up with sweet stuff so it was drinkable.

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Well into the whip cream and sprinkles zone, though the pies were first rate the iced coffee was a weird and crushing disappointment

When you say "pies"... do you mean pizza? I know up north some people call pizza pie for some odd reason.

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I know up north some people call pizza pie for some odd reason.

Piazza Pie is prettey commone terme, goetz confussione when usse pie instaede of pizza pie.

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So BJ how have you found the cane toad "*cawfi" ? In the 70s here the intake of Italian & Greeks changed the Billy Tea & Instant coffee sludge culture forever.

Lemonade... well considering 70% of NZ & Aus beverage scene is owned by CocaCola or Pepsi only the name changes, the rest via Schweppes no one can compete with fragile citrus variations. Squash or Solo the other mainstream cloudy lemonade chemical mix sold.

The multinationals killed off the once thriving fresh crushed & chilled orange & lemonade scene, found in pubs & clubs until the late 1980s.

Many years ago you would have lived in the Pepsi owned Pizza Hut, as the bottomless filter & iced cawfi was true US style. That changed as later generations changed the local prefferences in line with Euro style "taste the bean" (bitter) blends.

 

* cawfi (coffee) is the same as boohies (bouys)

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I don't understand the problem. I love coffee so much I like all kinds. Hot, cold, with or without milk or sugar, made from a barista or a machine, I enjoy them all. But of course, the BEST coffee is the one you make in the boat, in a kettle - old style.

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Thack you fre bieng normalle.

 

:)

 

No, no - I'm a hipster! :ph34r:

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Thack you fre bieng normalle.

 

:)

 

No, no - I'm a hipster! :ph34r:

 

Sorrey, my mitsacke, you our totalley decke!

 

:)

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Thack you fre bieng normalle.

 

:)

 

No, no - I'm a hipster! :ph34r:

 

Sorrey, my mitsacke, you our totalley decke!

 

:)

 

 

:D I even said "here you are, GIRLS", when I made coffee for the aussie sailors who wantet all kinds of milk and sugar (and even tea), while mine was just plain black. Or maybe I didn't say it out loud...anyway, for a nice strong black coffee, come to Scandinavistan.

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Thack you fre bieng normalle.

 

:)

 

No, no - I'm a hipster! :ph34r:

 

Sorrey, my mitsacke, you our totalley decke!

 

:)

 

 

:D I even said "here you are, GIRLS", when I made coffee for the aussie sailors who wantet all kinds of milk and sugar (and even tea), while mine was just plain black. Or maybe I didn't say it out loud...anyway, for a nice strong black coffee, come to Scandinavistan.

 

I licke youre spiritte. :)

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Ha, When I was there late 90's the soul crushing mealtime train wreck was the "American Hot dog".... OMG, talk about missing the mark.... For some reason they were bright red (like neon red) and tasted like a dog's ass..... I ended up trying one off a cart the first couple weeks in Aukland after a night of bar hopping... 3 am you figure anything will taste good. You go in expecting, at worst, a frigging Oscar Meyer Weener, you end up with something not fit for human consumption.. Disappointing to say the least.. I tried a 2nd one a couple months later near the end of the trip.. Soul crushingly off the mark....

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For some reason they were bright red (like neon red) and tasted like a dog's ass.....

I thick Ille tacke youre worde on thisse.... :)

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They have red hot dogs in Denmark also, but they are delicious. So, I really want to go to NZ sometime, is it safest to go with seafood? (not like sex & the city diet: I see food and I eat it)

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They have red hot dogs in Denmark also, but they are delicious. So, I really want to go to NZ sometime, is it safest to go with seafood? (not like sex & the city diet: I see food and I eat it)

 

There's some decent food in NZ...but some things are quite off. You rarely go wrong with fish and chips there. It's not a food Mecca, though there are some good spots. Lots of decent Thai and Indian places. If you like hot ask for "Thai hot" or "Indian hot" not just "hot" or, god forbid, "Kiwi hot". "Kiwi hot" puts Yank style ketchup into the "spicy" category. You can get good, spicy food there, but you kind of have to beg for it and ask the right way.

 

A cautionary note on burgers - many Kiwis really, really like beets on their burgers. It is not uncommon to discover stealth "beetroot" befouling an otherwise tasty and appealing burger. So if you hate beets as is natural and proper, always, ALWAYS ask to make sure there is no "beetroot" smuggled into your burger when you order. Even if it does not SAY "beetroot" on the list of toppings, they still might slip them in there.

 

In general the Kiwi palette seems to favor a slight sweeter flavor to some things, but more of an added natural sweetness, from things like beets or carrots, versus added sugar. So you will sometimes find things like shredded carrots in awkward places, e.g. inside a burrito. Also the ketchup (called "tomato sauce") has a different flavor. Unless it says something like "Heinz" on it, it will be sweeter and less salty than you are used to.

 

Expert tip: as a rule, avoid "Mexican" unless you've talked to someone who knows Mexican food first that has eaten there. This will NOT be someone who uses the expression "Sweet as" in regular conversation. Mexican in NZ is generally disappointing.

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I don't understand the problem. I love coffee so much I like all kinds. Hot, cold, with or without milk or sugar, made from a barista or a machine, I enjoy them all. But of course, the BEST coffee is the one you make in the boat, in a kettle - old style.

 

I think it's about expectations management.

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A burger with the lot should have Beetroot!

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A burger with the lot should have Beetroot!

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A burger with the lot should have Beetroot!

 

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Rather than heading to Sydney, perhaps you could take such negativity to Beetroot elsewhere! :)

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They have red hot dogs in Denmark also, but they are delicious. So, I really want to go to NZ sometime, is it safest to go with seafood? (not like sex & the city diet: I see food and I eat it)

 

There's some decent food in NZ...but some things are quite off. You rarely go wrong with fish and chips there. It's not a food Mecca, though there are some good spots. Lots of decent Thai and Indian places. If you like hot ask for "Thai hot" or "Indian hot" not just "hot" or, god forbid, "Kiwi hot". "Kiwi hot" puts Yank style ketchup into the "spicy" category. You can get good, spicy food there, but you kind of have to beg for it and ask the right way.

 

A cautionary note on burgers - many Kiwis really, really like beets on their burgers. It is not uncommon to discover stealth "beetroot" befouling an otherwise tasty and appealing burger. So if you hate beets as is natural and proper, always, ALWAYS ask to make sure there is no "beetroot" smuggled into your burger when you order. Even if it does not SAY "beetroot" on the list of toppings, they still might slip them in there.

 

In general the Kiwi palette seems to favor a slight sweeter flavor to some things, but more of an added natural sweetness, from things like beets or carrots, versus added sugar. So you will sometimes find things like shredded carrots in awkward places, e.g. inside a burrito. Also the ketchup (called "tomato sauce") has a different flavor. Unless it says something like "Heinz" on it, it will be sweeter and less salty than you are used to.

 

Expert tip: as a rule, avoid "Mexican" unless you've talked to someone who knows Mexican food first that has eaten there. This will NOT be someone who uses the expression "Sweet as" in regular conversation. Mexican in NZ is generally disappointing.

 

 

Except for the beetroot, sounds like New England. Crappy Mexican food and an aversion to spices of all kinds. Oh, and the BBQ is an abomination.

 

"More boiled cabbage, boiled potatoes and boiled beef, Sir? I assure you it has been blanched of all flavor!"

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Am now watching Masterchef New Zealand.

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One is a progressive city filled with young people with a great waterfront, heaps of nightlife, and tons of racing for both high performance and more traditional sailors. The other is a summer outpost for wealthy new yorkers, with the vast majority of sailing on ancient designs.

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We've been cruising the Hauraki gulf for a few decades, weekend warriors. Every year we look for new anchorages just for something different , and we find them. Summer normal for us is to leave friday night, stay at a bay somewhere an hour or two away and then vist any number of other bays or places over the next couple of days. You can make a weekend out of 20 miles or 100 miles, depending on what you want . The Gulf is completely different to the Bay of Islands ( I saw mentioned back a few posts). BOI is 10 miles to anywhere basically , really quite small geographically.Its a tourist economy so it has a different culture/ feel to it too.... Nice but small by comparison.

Auckland city ? Transport is a nightmare here now, Sailing is the reason you want to stay in the place.

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Its what you get used too as well, I am sure Newport locals think is pretty awesome, but for me the beauty of AK is heading out of the harbour and aiming the pointy bit somewhere between north and east then be instantly transported into yachting paradise.

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Lived for 7 years in Newport and raced everything from A-class cats to classic 6m's including high perf PHRF sportboats, low perf PHRF cruiser racers and J-24's. Been living in Auckland for 5 years now and admitedly have not managed to get dialed into a boat network in the same way, but have raced on some cruiser/racers and some classic yachts. Maybe I was luckier in Newport to get hooked up with good sailors, or maybe now that I am married with a young son, I don't have as much energy to put into finding good boats, but I found it MUCH easier to find good rides in Newport. Auckland's higher performance sceene seems much more closed off and harder to get onto a good boat....maybe I have turned into a bit of a sailing snob, but it is harder to make the time to get off work early in order to sail on a 6knt shitbox. Also seems that Auckland racing starts WAY TOO early in the evening and much more weeknight oriented than weekend oriented so for those of us that have a harder time getting off work 2-3 hours earlier than normal or have a decent commute (most everyone in Auckland as the traffic SUCKS), it is hard to make it to the dock in time, especially if you don't have a guaranteed ride.

 

Other factor is probably that in Newport I was working on Sailing Yachts, were here in Auckland I am designing power cats, so I have less industry contacts to help find good boats.

 

If you want to prove me wrong, please get in touch and get me on your boat, but for now Newport wins hands down!

 

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Lived for 7 years in Newport and raced everything from A-class cats to classic 6m's including high perf PHRF sportboats, low perf PHRF cruiser racers and J-24's. Been living in Auckland for 5 years now and admitedly have not managed to get dialed into a boat network in the same way, but have raced on some cruiser/racers and some classic yachts. Maybe I was luckier in Newport to get hooked up with good sailors, or maybe now that I am married with a young son, I don't have as much energy to put into finding good boats, but I found it MUCH easier to find good rides in Newport. Auckland's higher performance sceene seems much more closed off and harder to get onto a good boat....maybe I have turned into a bit of a sailing snob, but it is harder to make the time to get off work early in order to sail on a 6knt shitbox. Also seems that Auckland racing starts WAY TOO early in the evening and much more weeknight oriented than weekend oriented so for those of us that have a harder time getting off work 2-3 hours earlier than normal or have a decent commute (most everyone in Auckland as the traffic SUCKS), it is hard to make it to the dock in time, especially if you don't have a guaranteed ride.

 

Other factor is probably that in Newport I was working on Sailing Yachts, were here in Auckland I am designing power cats, so I have less industry contacts to help find good boats.

 

If you want to prove me wrong, please get in touch and get me on your boat, but for now Newport wins hands down!

 

Paging BooBoo

 

Head across to crew.org.nz, that was where I found a boat when I arrived in Auckland

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Thanks for the detailed answer ForeverSlow. That's what I was looking for haha. I'll be showing this answer to the girl I'm debating with haha.

 

I've been to Auckland before and toured the city, but I was only a transient and never have had the opportunity to sail there. Each time I was on my way to Christchurch on the south island for a conference or for work. However, I did recently find an engineering job in Auckland and am waiting the official offer letter (they told me in an email that they would be giving me one soon).

 

For the Kiwis reading this: I think I'll be moving in January. What yacht club(s) would be best for a single guy in his 20s who likes trapezing catamarans? I'd also like to get into 49er sailing if I can.

 

 

HI Bboy

Buy an A-Cat and join the fleet. We have a pretty good showing of A-Cats here. And asides from Paper Tigers, probably one of the most consitant cat fleets in the country. We're pretty useless as weekend club racing, althought trying to get better by using Wakatere YC. We tend to do weekend traveller series sailing, by travelling round the island sailing on lakes every month or so, with a bit of weekend sailing thrown in.

What type of engineering are you doing?

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When I was there I found it easier to get a good ride in Wellington than Aukland... Aukland seemed more uptight, and yacht cluby... Wellington seemed more down to earth and welcoming, but that may have been the time of year I was at ether place. Auk - Sept, Wellington - late Oct - Nov..... so springtime basically and things might have ramped up in the time I was traveling.

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